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Report Tom_Ato October 7, 2016 12:07 PM BST
Cant back anyone in this bunch of duds with any confidence. My play has been to back Saara Aalto at 50s with the hope of a decent trade off if the producers don't annihilate her too early. She is one of the strongest vocalists and a proven performer, quite versatile also. I was pleasantly surprised by her YouTube clips. I think she is capable of standing up for herself and limiting producer sabotage being the feisty snow fairy that she is.

PS does anyone know where I can get a poster of Louis Walsh from? Asking for a friend.
Report stu October 7, 2016 12:08 PM BST
Boyband v Girlband sounds a bit mad too for the individual singers.....Confused
Report squares October 7, 2016 12:09 PM BST
probably Westloife and Boyzone stu Cry
Report stu October 7, 2016 12:10 PM BST
Indeed squares Sad
Report squares October 7, 2016 12:11 PM BST
so the big new twist of the jukebox will be bringing us the same of carp we've had for years
Report squares October 7, 2016 12:12 PM BST
same OLD even
Report stu October 7, 2016 12:23 PM BST
Can imagine a few will struggle with certain themes for sure. Always interesting to look out for that.
Report gresty241 October 8, 2016 12:34 AM BST
hows that Final 1-2 market work? it sounds obviuous until you look at the selections
Report timbuctooth October 8, 2016 2:59 AM BST
Yep, looks like a mistake.
Report mach October 8, 2016 3:32 AM BST
the make over pics

See all new pictures of X Factor 2016's final 12 ahead of first live show

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/gallery/281853-see-new-pictures-x-factor-2016s-final-12-ahead-first-live-show.html/12
Report gresty241 October 8, 2016 10:10 AM BST
Is Burrows back or is it just panic station at dawn?

All bets down and out on the lash in Chester from midday, hopefully i'll make it back for the show to see how they all do. Good luck all.
Report Henry VIII October 8, 2016 2:51 PM BST
Just panic. If there was another wildcard it wouldn't be him anyway. If public vote - Caitlyn, if Cowell decides - someone more interesting than Christian to fill a void.

But it normally would have been announced before now, to get more public watching tonight.
Report mach October 8, 2016 3:07 PM BST
This feels like a back to basics series, the jukebox theme with heading like Oscars, Boy Band vs Girl Band, Disco, Motown, 80’s, Divas, this is going to keep the gogglebox lot happy, much less of "we want to find a recording artist/star this is why we make the show"
I don't think we will have wildcards or twists this time around
Report Henry VIII October 8, 2016 3:21 PM BST
www.unrealitytv.co.uk/reality-tv/holly-hagan-charlotte-crosby-call-christian...
Report gresty241 October 8, 2016 6:54 PM BST
i saw that the other day Henry, hopefully the top12 are the top 12
Report sc1883 October 8, 2016 7:51 PM BST
big big drift on brooks way, was 28 earlier today now 85, must be sounding bad in practice or ill!
Report bearcub October 8, 2016 8:00 PM BST
Or chucked out
Report Henry VIII October 9, 2016 8:15 AM BST
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1939051/x-factors-josh-brooks-ex-girlf...
Report bearcub October 10, 2016 6:02 PM BST
4 of Diamonds are back
Report bearcub October 10, 2016 6:03 PM BST
.
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/719602/The-X-Factor-2016-Four-of-Diamonds-return-Brooks-Way
Report ghostlygunner October 10, 2016 6:30 PM BST
well what a shock Cool just shows people involved with the show are involved in the market i suppose

to be fair i thought they should have gone through anyway
Report gresty241 October 10, 2016 6:38 PM BST
bit of panic backing going on
Report ghostlygunner October 10, 2016 6:49 PM BST
maybe but i wouldnt like to be the 1000 layer as they have a chance in this poor a field
Report gresty241 October 10, 2016 7:09 PM BST
me neither or even a 100 layer
Report Henry VIII October 11, 2016 7:21 AM BST
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/282429-x-factors-honey-g-e...
Report Henry VIII October 11, 2016 7:24 AM BST
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1946000/the-x-factor-star-honey-g-has-been-branded-a-fake-amid-claims-she-dropped-her-posh-accent-and-dumbed-herself-down-for-the-show/

Keeping her in the headlines but also - build 'em up to knock 'em down.
Report Henry VIII October 12, 2016 1:47 PM BST
£1000 waiting to lay Matt and £563 + £752 waiting to lay 4oD. Good. At least the market is livelier than the forum.
Report Henry VIII October 14, 2016 6:09 PM BST
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/x-factor/553571/Little-Mix-X-Factor-novelty-acts-annoy-Honey-G-Bratavio

Little Mix don't feel the Honey G vibe.
Report Henry VIII October 20, 2016 5:50 AM BST
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/283840-x-factor-2016-relle...
Report bearcub October 21, 2016 2:08 PM BST
This weeks songs

The Boys:

Matt Terry: Mariah Carey - I’ll Be There

Ryan Lawrie: Adele - Rolling in The Deep

The Girls:

Emily Middlemas: Whitney Houston - How Will I Know

Sam Lavery: Michael Jackson - Earth Song

Gifty Louise: Sam Smith - Lay Me Down

The Overs:

Honey G: Vanilla Ice / Queen - Ice, Ice Baby/Under Pressure

Relley C: Aretha Franklin - Natural Woman

Saara Aalto: Bjork - Oh So Quiet

The Groups:

5 After Midnight: Amy Winehouse - Valerie

Four of Diamonds: Lady Marmalade/Bang Bang - May, Pink / Lil' Kim, Jessie J, Arianna Grande.
Report Henry VIII October 21, 2016 2:21 PM BST
oops I was too late
Report Henry VIII October 21, 2016 2:22 PM BST
So who are they helping/hindering. Emily and Whitney Crazy Maybe there's a suitable cover for her.
Report Henry VIII October 21, 2016 2:52 PM BST
Ryan's choice looks fatal for him.
Report timbuctooth October 21, 2016 3:22 PM BST
Yep, you`ve picked out two of the worst, perhaps add Gifty?
Report Tom_Ato October 21, 2016 3:45 PM BST
Why are there no other trains aside from Slavery one? What's wrong with you all? During BB there was a train for every fecker. Come on someone at least do a Matt the rat train.
Report Henry VIII October 21, 2016 3:51 PM BST
Whoever does a Matt train will incidentally have a winning train.
Report timbuctooth October 21, 2016 3:53 PM BST
Not much kudos in having a winning train on an 11/10 shot, but even less  glory in having trains crash out!
Report Tom_Ato October 21, 2016 4:10 PM BST
I'm going to start a Hilary Clinton train.
Report Tom_Ato October 21, 2016 4:44 PM BST

Oct 21, 2016 -- 3:51PM, Henry VIII wrote:


Whoever does a Matt train will incidentally have a winning train.


Matt the rat looks heads and shoulders above the rest right now but it's too early to tip him for the win. With Louisa Johnson walking it last year it was a pretty tame series and finale, surely producers do not want a repeat of that. Out of this lot I can see Sam Lavatory emerging as a serious a challenger to mix things up a bit. Let's see.

Report squares October 28, 2016 11:05 AM BST
Boys

Matt Terry: Nina Simone - I Put a Spell on You

Ryan Lawrie: Backstreet Boys - Everybody

Girls

Emily Middlemas: Creep - Radiohead

Sam Lavery: Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse of the Heart

Gifty Louise: Fifth Harmony - I’m In Love With a Monster

Overs

Honey G: Will Smith - Men in Black

Saara Aalto: Lady Gaga - Bad Romance

Groups

5 After Midnight: Michael Jackson - Thriller

Four of Diamonds: Ella Henderson - Ghost.
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 2, 2016 12:06 PM GMT
Please can someone lay my £90 @2.7 Louis to be 1st mentor eliminated GrinGrin please.
Report mach November 3, 2016 10:43 AM GMT
Winner with out Matt added
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 3, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
Moved my 2.7 to 2.6 if anyones interested.
Report squares November 9, 2016 4:54 PM GMT
a fun, upbeat, classic disco track for Sam
Report MythicalMadMan November 11, 2016 12:00 AM GMT
lads what happens the eviction market on xfactor when its a double?
Report timbuctooth November 11, 2016 2:12 AM GMT
XF usually have one eviction, then the second, separately. If you`ve had bets on `6th out`, those bets will stand. If they announce this, (or any) week will be a double, betfair usually get a second market (7th out) up pretty soon. There shouldn`t be any confusion, no dead-heats or any other such malarkey.
Report LendUsAFiver November 11, 2016 7:57 PM GMT
Haven't been involved here but have just done some social research for the hell of it. I know X-Factor contradicted the rules last year so definitely keeping an open mind.

#1 Matt Terry with twice as much positive chatter to 2nd place
#2 Honey G - I know right? Surprising that it's also a lot more positive than negative.
#3 Saara Alto
#4 Emily Middlemas
#5 5 After Midnight

Don't think social analysis works with this show now but just putting this out there to reflect on later.
Report mach November 11, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
My tip for the weekend, shock eviction of 5am, last price matched @23, available @17.5
Report LendUsAFiver November 11, 2016 8:15 PM GMT
is that to go next? or anywhere in the double eviction?
Report mach November 11, 2016 8:18 PM GMT
go next
Report LendUsAFiver November 11, 2016 8:50 PM GMT
You could be onto something with that bet. Looks good. It's between them and one other. I can't do proper analysis on the eviction because Ryan did a Twitter 'Ask Ryan' session and got several hundred response spike in an hour. Looks like Lavery could get a bounce this week if the chatter graph is anything to go by.
Report LendUsAFiver November 11, 2016 8:53 PM GMT
problem is X-factor analysis started breaking the rules when phone voting ended.
Report traicue November 14, 2016 1:01 AM GMT
5am got through, surprised Sam went and Ryan stayed.
Report LendUsAFiver November 14, 2016 10:44 AM GMT

Nov 11, 2016 -- 7:57PM, LendUsAFiver wrote:


Haven't been involved here but have just done some social research for the hell of it. I know X-Factor contradicted the rules last year so definitely keeping an open mind.#1 Matt Terry with twice as much positive chatter to 2nd place#2 Honey G - I know right? Surprising that it's also a lot more positive than negative.#3 Saara Alto#4 Emily Middlemas#5 5 After MidnightDon't think social analysis works with this show now but just putting this out there to reflect on later.


Initial analysis was spot on. Not bad considering it was a pre-show check.

Report bearcub November 14, 2016 11:01 AM GMT
Keep up the good work Cool
Report LendUsAFiver November 14, 2016 5:40 PM GMT
Can the producers get the dream combination in B2 this weekend? Emily Middlemas vs Ryan. I'd say they can probably make it happen.
Report LendUsAFiver November 17, 2016 8:43 PM GMT
Weekend for Saara - My Heart Will Go On - Titanic
Report squares November 18, 2016 8:01 AM GMT
Matt
Writing’s on The Wall - Sam Smith - from the movie Spectre

Ryan Lawrie
Jailhouse Rock - Elvis Presley - from the movie Jailhouse Rock

Emily Middlemas
It Must Have Been Love - Rosette - from the movie Pretty Woman

Honey G
It’s Like That & Getting Jiggy With It - Jason Nevins & Will Smith I - from the movie Keith Lemon The Movie / Last Days of Disco

Saara Aalto
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion - from the movie Titanic

5 After Midnight
Try a Little Tenderness - Otis Redding - from the movie The Commitments
Report squares November 18, 2016 8:05 AM GMT
RoXette - very poor from tellymix
Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 2:36 PM GMT
Song of Death for Matt...deramp?
Report LendUsAFiver November 18, 2016 3:51 PM GMT
If Matt really was 3rd last week as per the hint from Dermot then anything is possible. They seem to either be holding him back or want a different winner. Not sure why but we've seen this technique many times in the past including:- The Pug Guy, Anton, Che, Lauren Platt, Ben Haenow (the plan didn't work), Nicholas McDonald
Report LendUsAFiver November 18, 2016 3:54 PM GMT
Kind of get's you thinking maybe the show is groomed by these betting markets because history shows us that Winning means nothing in regard contracted success.
Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 3:55 PM GMT
Cowell probably spends more on his face than all the liquidity in the xf markets combined
Report MythicalMadMan November 18, 2016 3:56 PM GMT
song of death?
Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 3:59 PM GMT
Its shyte....plus didn't they give it to someone last year and it went down like a lead balloon?
Report LendUsAFiver November 18, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
Anyone remember Matt Cardle? Cocky guy, vein and unliked by everyone on here but won by a landslide due to the Mems. I think we have a similar situation here with Matt Terry (funny that, exactly the same name) but instead the MEMs seem to be connecting with Saara now.
Personally I can't connect with Saara, there is just something about her that irritates me, however can't discount her fanbase. Saying that, 4th Impact had a huge online fanbase (even when filtered to UK analytics) but they didn't show up? A reason why current risk is so low this year.
Report MythicalMadMan November 18, 2016 4:05 PM GMT
ah cool.ty gb
Report LendUsAFiver November 18, 2016 4:14 PM GMT

Nov 18, 2016 -- 3:56PM, MythicalMadMan wrote:


song of death?


It's a feminine song. Difficult for a straight guy with a moist female fanbase to get away with.

Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
The writings on the wall for Matt then?
Report MythicalMadMan November 18, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
just listened to it ya ye are right, wonder will he get much vocal help
Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 4:26 PM GMT
auto tune whacked up to zero and red and black to get the james bond "atmosphere"
Report George Bailey November 18, 2016 4:27 PM GMT
Only bet (and lost) £6 this series. Couldn't get into it. Is laying the fav the value? Empirical evidence suggests so.
Report Jack Bauer '24' November 18, 2016 5:43 PM GMT
I expect this will be Matt's big pimp week and this will be the song he sings in the final with Sam Smith.
Report squares November 18, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
I had considered that too Jack, seeing as they have already met, etc.
Report squares November 25, 2016 7:59 AM GMT
Week 8 - Quarter Finals songlist

Matt Terry

Little Mix - Secret Love Song (Louis Loves)
Sia - Alive (Own choice)

Emily Middlemas

Britney Spears - Toxic (Louis Loves)
Rag 'N' Bone Man - Human (Own choice)

Honey G

Can't Touch This + Super Freak - MC Hammer + Rick James (Louis Loves)
Push It + Black Beatles - Salt-N-Pepa + Rae Sremmurd (Own choice)

Saara Aalto

The Winner Takes It All - ABBA (Louis Loves)
Diamonds are Forever + Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend - Shirley Bassey + Marilyn Monroe (Own choice)

5 After Midnight

Uptown Funk - Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars (Louis Loves)
Sorry + One Dance - Justin Bieber + Drake (Own choice)
Report PAKEY December 2, 2016 12:37 AM GMT
Apologies if it's been discussed already, do we know if the judge's decide from the bottom two again this week, or is it just the public vote?
Currently praying it's the latter.
Report hemsby December 2, 2016 5:21 AM GMT
No news so far on that PAKEY.
Report PAKEY December 2, 2016 8:51 AM GMT
Thanks hemsby, fingers crossed.
Report bearcub December 2, 2016 10:24 AM GMT
Matt will be singing the hymn Silent Night and Jessie Ware's Say You Love Me.

Emily will be singing John Lennon's War is Over and Gary Jules' Mad World.

Saara will be singing Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas is You and Sia's Chandelier.

5 After Midnight will be singing East 17's Stay Another Day and Stevie Wonder's Signed, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours).
Report George Bailey December 2, 2016 11:39 AM GMT
Emily will have them dancing in the aisles then....clearly going for the Leonard Cohen gap in the market
Report George Bailey December 2, 2016 11:40 AM GMT
Perfect for Saara....big bouncy production number followed by a killer solo performance?
Report LendUsAFiver December 5, 2016 9:45 AM GMT
Cashed out of Saara, something doesn't feel right. I know it's the wrong move because she should win easily from here but my reality compass has lost calibration over the past few years. Conspiracy Plain
Report George Bailey December 5, 2016 10:13 AM GMT
Turned out to be perfect for Saara......
Report bearcub December 7, 2016 4:33 PM GMT
Saara will perform a "Eurovision Classic" song which her European fans have wanted her to perform throughout the live shows.

5AM will take on a RnB Dance anthem performed by an all time great RnB male artist

Matt will perform one of the biggest songs of this past century, which was sung by one of UK's biggest female artists EVER
Report hemsby December 7, 2016 4:44 PM GMT
5 AM doing a Reggie n Bollie track Cool
Report bearcub December 7, 2016 4:45 PM GMT
No
Report hemsby December 7, 2016 4:49 PM GMT
Angry.....stop posting that they are then.
Report bearcub December 7, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
Hems still upset he missed out on Foty Sad
Report hemsby December 7, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/MSVTOMkJdqs
Report hemsby December 7, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/MSVTOMkJdqs
Report bearcub December 7, 2016 4:58 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9Vza-RFu4
Report timbuctooth December 7, 2016 5:08 PM GMT
Couple of pedantic points, re. FOTY, but given the importance of the Office, such pedantry is fully justified!
Who is FOTY? Is it bear until January 1st? Or until March, thus claiming the full 12 months? Or is it horse and squares already?
Whenever those two take over, who`s in charge? To whom do we pledge our allegiance, with the doff of a jaunty little cap? What if the two are in disagreement over a matter of vital importance to this forum? Would six months each be a good idea?
Report squares December 9, 2016 7:11 AM GMT
X Factor 2016 song choices - Week 10 - THE FINAL songlist


Matt Terry

Solo song: Take Me Home - Jess Glynne
Duet: TBC (Rumoured to be with Nicole Scherzinger)

5 After Midnight

Solo song: Crazy in Love - Beyonce
Duet: TBC

Saara Aalto

Solo song: Everybody Wants to Rule The World - Tears For Fears
Duet: **RUMOURED** Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen with Adam Lambert
Report squares December 9, 2016 7:12 AM GMT
plus further reporting of the secret couple
Report bearcub December 9, 2016 8:22 AM GMT
Hems and cider  NAP  Cool
Report timbuctooth December 10, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
What fun it is, trading this final day 5AM  price!
Report Henry VIII December 10, 2016 6:32 PM GMT
A couple of polls still with Emily below only because they are still getting votes.
________________________________________
2,643 votes

Saara Aalto 85%
5 After Midnight 8%
Matt Terry 7%

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/should-win-years-x-factor-saara-alto-obviously/
________________________________________
"1,000+ votes"

Saara 52%
Matt 25%
5am 23%

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/10/matt-saara-or-5-after-midnight-who-will-win-the-x-factor-2016-6313231/
________________________________________
6,671 votes

Saara 47%
Matt 28%
5am 25%

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/simon-cowell-x-factor_uk_584ab983e4b040989fa6b86a?utm_hp_ref=uktvxfactor
________________________________________
4,558 votes

Could Saara Alto win The X Factor?

YES - She's a superstar   78%
MAYBE - If she pulls out another Sia   13%
NO - She needs to Let It Go   9%

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/741695/X-Factor-2016-final-Saara-Aalto-Simon-Cowell
________________________________________
914 votes

Saara Aalto 59%
5 After Midnight 16%
Matt Terry 20%
Emily Middlemas 5%

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/740068/The-X-Factor-homophobia-row-ITV-snubbing-Saara-Aalto-fianc-e-Meri-Sopanen
________________________________________
no vote number stated

Saara 74%
Matt 11%
5am 9%
Emily 6%

http://www.justsimoncowell.com/single-post/2016/11/30/X-Factor-poll-semi-final
Report timbuctooth December 10, 2016 6:38 PM GMT
Never in the history of XF have we seen such comprehensive leads in polls. Should be shorter than Rhydian. (For newbies; that means 1.06, even though he was beaten!).
Report bearcub December 10, 2016 6:59 PM GMT
All fanw@nk polls retweeted by fan pages and voted by the Fins

All the recent untainted twitter polls have her in 3rd
Report bearcub December 10, 2016 7:07 PM GMT
CelebMix ‏@CelebMix  2h2 hours ago
Tonight's #Xfactor final is only a few hours away. Who are you rooting for?

53% Matt Terry
24% Saara Aalto
23% 5 After Midnight

1,109 votes
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