****XF 2016 GENERAL CHAT****

Cant back anyone in this bunch of duds with any confidence. My play has been to back Saara Aalto at 50s with the hope of a decent trade off if the producers don't annihilate her too early. She is one of the strongest vocalists and a proven performer, quite versatile also. I was pleasantly surprised by her YouTube clips. I think she is capable of standing up for herself and limiting producer sabotage being the feisty snow fairy that she is.

PS does anyone know where I can get a poster of Louis Walsh from? Asking for a friend.

Boyband v Girlband sounds a bit mad too for the individual singers.....

probably Westloife and Boyzone stu

Indeed squares

so the big new twist of the jukebox will be bringing us the same of carp we've had for years

same OLD even

Can imagine a few will struggle with certain themes for sure. Always interesting to look out for that.

hows that Final 1-2 market work? it sounds obviuous until you look at the selections

Yep, looks like a mistake.

the make over pics

See all new pictures of X Factor 2016's final 12 ahead of first live show

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/gallery/281853-see-new-pictures-x-factor-2016s-final-12-ahead-first-live-show.html/12

Is Burrows back or is it just panic station at dawn?

All bets down and out on the lash in Chester from midday, hopefully i'll make it back for the show to see how they all do. Good luck all.

Just panic. If there was another wildcard it wouldn't be him anyway. If public vote - Caitlyn, if Cowell decides - someone more interesting than Christian to fill a void.

But it normally would have been announced before now, to get more public watching tonight.

This feels like a back to basics series, the jukebox theme with heading like Oscars, Boy Band vs Girl Band, Disco, Motown, 80’s, Divas, this is going to keep the gogglebox lot happy, much less of "we want to find a recording artist/star this is why we make the show"
I don't think we will have wildcards or twists this time around

www.unrealitytv.co.uk/reality-tv/holly-hagan-charlotte-crosby-call-christian...

i saw that the other day Henry, hopefully the top12 are the top 12

big big drift on brooks way, was 28 earlier today now 85, must be sounding bad in practice or ill!

Or chucked out

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1939051/x-factors-josh-brooks-ex-girlf...

4 of Diamonds are back

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http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/719602/The-X-Factor-2016-Four-of-Diamonds-return-Brooks-Way

well what a shock just shows people involved with the show are involved in the market i suppose

to be fair i thought they should have gone through anyway

bit of panic backing going on

maybe but i wouldnt like to be the 1000 layer as they have a chance in this poor a field

me neither or even a 100 layer

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/282429-x-factors-honey-g-e...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1946000/the-x-factor-star-honey-g-has-been-branded-a-fake-amid-claims-she-dropped-her-posh-accent-and-dumbed-herself-down-for-the-show/

Keeping her in the headlines but also - build 'em up to knock 'em down.

£1000 waiting to lay Matt and £563 + £752 waiting to lay 4oD. Good. At least the market is livelier than the forum.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/x-factor/553571/Little-Mix-X-Factor-novelty-acts-annoy-Honey-G-Bratavio

Little Mix don't feel the Honey G vibe.

http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/283840-x-factor-2016-relle...

This weeks songs

The Boys:

Matt Terry: Mariah Carey - I’ll Be There

Ryan Lawrie: Adele - Rolling in The Deep

The Girls:

Emily Middlemas: Whitney Houston - How Will I Know

Sam Lavery: Michael Jackson - Earth Song

Gifty Louise: Sam Smith - Lay Me Down

The Overs:

Honey G: Vanilla Ice / Queen - Ice, Ice Baby/Under Pressure

Relley C: Aretha Franklin - Natural Woman

Saara Aalto: Bjork - Oh So Quiet

The Groups:

5 After Midnight: Amy Winehouse - Valerie

Four of Diamonds: Lady Marmalade/Bang Bang - May, Pink / Lil' Kim, Jessie J, Arianna Grande.

oops I was too late

So who are they helping/hindering. Emily and Whitney Maybe there's a suitable cover for her.

Ryan's choice looks fatal for him.

Yep, you`ve picked out two of the worst, perhaps add Gifty?

Why are there no other trains aside from Slavery one? What's wrong with you all? During BB there was a train for every fecker. Come on someone at least do a Matt the rat train.

Whoever does a Matt train will incidentally have a winning train.

Not much kudos in having a winning train on an 11/10 shot, but even less  glory in having trains crash out!

I'm going to start a Hilary Clinton train.

Oct 21, 2016 -- 3:51PM, Henry VIII wrote:

Whoever does a Matt train will incidentally have a winning train.

Matt the rat looks heads and shoulders above the rest right now but it's too early to tip him for the win. With Louisa Johnson walking it last year it was a pretty tame series and finale, surely producers do not want a repeat of that. Out of this lot I can see Sam Lavatory emerging as a serious a challenger to mix things up a bit. Let's see.

Boys

Matt Terry: Nina Simone - I Put a Spell on You

Ryan Lawrie: Backstreet Boys - Everybody

Girls

Emily Middlemas: Creep - Radiohead

Sam Lavery: Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse of the Heart

Gifty Louise: Fifth Harmony - I’m In Love With a Monster

Overs

Honey G: Will Smith - Men in Black

Saara Aalto: Lady Gaga - Bad Romance

Groups

5 After Midnight: Michael Jackson - Thriller

Four of Diamonds: Ella Henderson - Ghost.

Please can someone lay my £90 @2.7 Louis to be 1st mentor eliminated please.

Winner with out Matt added

Moved my 2.7 to 2.6 if anyones interested.

a fun, upbeat, classic disco track for Sam

lads what happens the eviction market on xfactor when its a double?

XF usually have one eviction, then the second, separately. If you`ve had bets on `6th out`, those bets will stand. If they announce this, (or any) week will be a double, betfair usually get a second market (7th out) up pretty soon. There shouldn`t be any confusion, no dead-heats or any other such malarkey.

Haven't been involved here but have just done some social research for the hell of it. I know X-Factor contradicted the rules last year so definitely keeping an open mind.

#1 Matt Terry with twice as much positive chatter to 2nd place
#2 Honey G - I know right? Surprising that it's also a lot more positive than negative.
#3 Saara Alto
#4 Emily Middlemas
#5 5 After Midnight

Don't think social analysis works with this show now but just putting this out there to reflect on later.

My tip for the weekend, shock eviction of 5am, last price matched @23, available @17.5

is that to go next? or anywhere in the double eviction?

go next

You could be onto something with that bet. Looks good. It's between them and one other. I can't do proper analysis on the eviction because Ryan did a Twitter 'Ask Ryan' session and got several hundred response spike in an hour. Looks like Lavery could get a bounce this week if the chatter graph is anything to go by.

problem is X-factor analysis started breaking the rules when phone voting ended.

5am got through, surprised Sam went and Ryan stayed.

Nov 11, 2016 -- 7:57PM, LendUsAFiver wrote:

Haven't been involved here but have just done some social research for the hell of it. I know X-Factor contradicted the rules last year so definitely keeping an open mind.#1 Matt Terry with twice as much positive chatter to 2nd place#2 Honey G - I know right? Surprising that it's also a lot more positive than negative.#3 Saara Alto#4 Emily Middlemas#5 5 After MidnightDon't think social analysis works with this show now but just putting this out there to reflect on later.

Initial analysis was spot on. Not bad considering it was a pre-show check.

Keep up the good work

Can the producers get the dream combination in B2 this weekend? Emily Middlemas vs Ryan. I'd say they can probably make it happen.

Weekend for Saara - My Heart Will Go On - Titanic

Matt
Writing’s on The Wall - Sam Smith - from the movie Spectre

Ryan Lawrie
Jailhouse Rock - Elvis Presley - from the movie Jailhouse Rock

Emily Middlemas
It Must Have Been Love - Rosette - from the movie Pretty Woman

Honey G
It’s Like That & Getting Jiggy With It - Jason Nevins & Will Smith I - from the movie Keith Lemon The Movie / Last Days of Disco

Saara Aalto
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion - from the movie Titanic

5 After Midnight
Try a Little Tenderness - Otis Redding - from the movie The Commitments

RoXette - very poor from tellymix

Song of Death for Matt...deramp?

If Matt really was 3rd last week as per the hint from Dermot then anything is possible. They seem to either be holding him back or want a different winner. Not sure why but we've seen this technique many times in the past including:- The Pug Guy, Anton, Che, Lauren Platt, Ben Haenow (the plan didn't work), Nicholas McDonald

Kind of get's you thinking maybe the show is groomed by these betting markets because history shows us that Winning means nothing in regard contracted success.

Cowell probably spends more on his face than all the liquidity in the xf markets combined

song of death?

Its shyte....plus didn't they give it to someone last year and it went down like a lead balloon?

Anyone remember Matt Cardle? Cocky guy, vein and unliked by everyone on here but won by a landslide due to the Mems. I think we have a similar situation here with Matt Terry (funny that, exactly the same name) but instead the MEMs seem to be connecting with Saara now.
Personally I can't connect with Saara, there is just something about her that irritates me, however can't discount her fanbase. Saying that, 4th Impact had a huge online fanbase (even when filtered to UK analytics) but they didn't show up? A reason why current risk is so low this year.

ah cool.ty gb

Nov 18, 2016 -- 3:56PM, MythicalMadMan wrote:

song of death?

It's a feminine song. Difficult for a straight guy with a moist female fanbase to get away with.

The writings on the wall for Matt then?

just listened to it ya ye are right, wonder will he get much vocal help

auto tune whacked up to zero and red and black to get the james bond "atmosphere"

Only bet (and lost) £6 this series. Couldn't get into it. Is laying the fav the value? Empirical evidence suggests so.

I expect this will be Matt's big pimp week and this will be the song he sings in the final with Sam Smith.

I had considered that too Jack, seeing as they have already met, etc.

Week 8 - Quarter Finals songlist

Matt Terry

Little Mix - Secret Love Song (Louis Loves)
Sia - Alive (Own choice)

Emily Middlemas

Britney Spears - Toxic (Louis Loves)
Rag 'N' Bone Man - Human (Own choice)

Honey G

Can't Touch This + Super Freak - MC Hammer + Rick James (Louis Loves)
Push It + Black Beatles - Salt-N-Pepa + Rae Sremmurd (Own choice)

Saara Aalto

The Winner Takes It All - ABBA (Louis Loves)
Diamonds are Forever + Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend - Shirley Bassey + Marilyn Monroe (Own choice)

5 After Midnight

Uptown Funk - Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars (Louis Loves)
Sorry + One Dance - Justin Bieber + Drake (Own choice)

Apologies if it's been discussed already, do we know if the judge's decide from the bottom two again this week, or is it just the public vote?
Currently praying it's the latter.

No news so far on that PAKEY.

Thanks hemsby, fingers crossed.

Matt will be singing the hymn Silent Night and Jessie Ware's Say You Love Me.

Emily will be singing John Lennon's War is Over and Gary Jules' Mad World.

Saara will be singing Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas is You and Sia's Chandelier.

5 After Midnight will be singing East 17's Stay Another Day and Stevie Wonder's Signed, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours).

Emily will have them dancing in the aisles then....clearly going for the Leonard Cohen gap in the market

Perfect for Saara....big bouncy production number followed by a killer solo performance?

Cashed out of Saara, something doesn't feel right. I know it's the wrong move because she should win easily from here but my reality compass has lost calibration over the past few years. Conspiracy

Turned out to be perfect for Saara......

Saara will perform a "Eurovision Classic" song which her European fans have wanted her to perform throughout the live shows.

5AM will take on a RnB Dance anthem performed by an all time great RnB male artist

Matt will perform one of the biggest songs of this past century, which was sung by one of UK's biggest female artists EVER

5 AM doing a Reggie n Bollie track

No

.....stop posting that they are then.

Hems still upset he missed out on Foty

https://youtu.be/MSVTOMkJdqs

https://youtu.be/MSVTOMkJdqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9Vza-RFu4

Couple of pedantic points, re. FOTY, but given the importance of the Office, such pedantry is fully justified!
Who is FOTY? Is it bear until January 1st? Or until March, thus claiming the full 12 months? Or is it horse and squares already?
Whenever those two take over, who`s in charge? To whom do we pledge our allegiance, with the doff of a jaunty little cap? What if the two are in disagreement over a matter of vital importance to this forum? Would six months each be a good idea?

X Factor 2016 song choices - Week 10 - THE FINAL songlist


Matt Terry

Solo song: Take Me Home - Jess Glynne
Duet: TBC (Rumoured to be with Nicole Scherzinger)

5 After Midnight

Solo song: Crazy in Love - Beyonce
Duet: TBC

Saara Aalto

Solo song: Everybody Wants to Rule The World - Tears For Fears
Duet: **RUMOURED** Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen with Adam Lambert

plus further reporting of the secret couple

Hems and cider  NAP 

What fun it is, trading this final day 5AM  price!

A couple of polls still with Emily below only because they are still getting votes.
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2,643 votes

Saara Aalto 85%
5 After Midnight 8%
Matt Terry 7%

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/should-win-years-x-factor-saara-alto-obviously/
________________________________________
"1,000+ votes"

Saara 52%
Matt 25%
5am 23%

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/10/matt-saara-or-5-after-midnight-who-will-win-the-x-factor-2016-6313231/
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6,671 votes

Saara 47%
Matt 28%
5am 25%

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/simon-cowell-x-factor_uk_584ab983e4b040989fa6b86a?utm_hp_ref=uktvxfactor
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4,558 votes

Could Saara Alto win The X Factor?

YES - She's a superstar   78%
MAYBE - If she pulls out another Sia   13%
NO - She needs to Let It Go   9%

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/741695/X-Factor-2016-final-Saara-Aalto-Simon-Cowell
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914 votes

Saara Aalto 59%
5 After Midnight 16%
Matt Terry 20%
Emily Middlemas 5%

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/740068/The-X-Factor-homophobia-row-ITV-snubbing-Saara-Aalto-fianc-e-Meri-Sopanen
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no vote number stated

Saara 74%
Matt 11%
5am 9%
Emily 6%

http://www.justsimoncowell.com/single-post/2016/11/30/X-Factor-poll-semi-final

Never in the history of XF have we seen such comprehensive leads in polls. Should be shorter than Rhydian. (For newbies; that means 1.06, even though he was beaten!).

All fanw@nk polls retweeted by fan pages and voted by the Fins

All the recent untainted twitter polls have her in 3rd

CelebMix ‏@CelebMix  2h2 hours ago
Tonight's #Xfactor final is only a few hours away. Who are you rooting for?

53% Matt Terry
24% Saara Aalto
23% 5 After Midnight

1,109 votes