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Very tight contests ... great markets as us gambling addicts can bet up to the end of Christmas Eve... result on Boxing Day.

Any opinions... Mrs Browns Boys a sound favourite, but Eastenders, Downton Abbey and Strictly have a chance
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Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 8:53 AM GMT
For what its worth I think Strictly could be a bit of value in the outright at around 10/1, would want a bit more than 4/1 in the 'without' market though.. where Eastenders is the obvious favourite..

Regardong XMAS number 1.. its been like a 'head bobber' on the run in at a horse race.. both been well odds on.. it probably depends on how much spin and hype on TV /Press the NHS choir gets over next 2 days... anyone know plans ? If theres enough, then 2/1 would nstill be big..
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 10:17 AM GMT
Not sure why, but nobody seems to be talking about the Christmas TV market, we`re all concentrating on the No1. Join us on that thread?
Report bearcub December 23, 2015 10:31 AM GMT
The clues in the username Timothy
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 1:33 PM GMT
Fair enough! Just felt someone who doesn`t post often had made the effort, only to be ignored.
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 2:06 PM GMT
Cheers Timbuctooth, appreciate that, yes used to post a lot and did a few favours I think but usually better to just get the money down yourself and forget the praise or flak... The 2/1 NHS choir mentioned previously does seem to have disappeared

Re the xmas number 1 thread, I think Tv would get lost in it.... I know its a minority interest but enjoy it each year..
Report bearcub December 23, 2015 2:22 PM GMT
Are you interested in Foty at all Atc?

We're down to the final days now and you have my vote against Bails
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
Cheers, Bearcub... the name is more about opposing the obvious, than the rest of the forum members !
Report bearcub December 23, 2015 2:38 PM GMT
You're currently leading the poll Cool
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 2:39 PM GMT
But, hang on a minute, that`s what we ALL do!
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 2:40 PM GMT
^^^to against
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
Nobody got an opinion on these markets bar Myself ?
Report lookingon December 23, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
I'm sure bear has.....Silly
Report lookingon December 23, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
I've had a go on Strictly.
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 3:09 PM GMT
10s with the books looks too big...
Report bearcub December 23, 2015 3:09 PM GMT
I've backed strictly ATC. I was confident before it was such a dire show on Saturday. The later time will help imo

The market on here is not the best though, I blame Looky Angry
Report lookingon December 23, 2015 3:18 PM GMT
Love I blame moiCool
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 3:22 PM GMT
Yes, good to hear others see the 'Strictly' thing... The bookmakers market has been  ok on main event, regarding 'without' market.. I guess its up to anyone to put their money down & see if its taken..

If Christmas number one single is obviously going one way... looks like NHS choir, then this market could get some attention as its literally all done on Chrismas Day so can be bet up to midnight on Christmas Eve..
Report Cider December 23, 2015 4:29 PM GMT
I feel MBB is a vulnerable favourite atc.

I backed scd and EE against it a few weeks ago.

FYI PP are settling based upon the consolidated figures.
Report stu December 23, 2015 4:37 PM GMT
Notice they bother writing some rules for this market these days, after ripping off customers by not having any rules about 'overnights' previously. Still leaves a bitter taste does that year. Sad
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
Interesting on both last texts... Hills USED to settle on consolidated figures and it cost myself and a mate over 10k one year when Men Behaving Badly won overnights and got headlines but Eastenders overtook it on consolidated... where video playbacks were added... was a joke change...ludicrous amount of extra 'recorded' Eastenders viewings, went to IBAS to no avail !
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 9:38 PM GMT
OK, you`re obviously good at this, where do all NHS winners put their winnings? Where`s the value?
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
hmmm , yes, well I did manage to share some NHS winnings...(touch wood)hard to believe it was still 2/1 in a place this morning...I will be straight .. my tip has been Strictly Xmas special to a few colleagues and have backed at 16s 14s and now 10s ... The 10s is still available with a few books and I think it will go close..later time slot than last year, as someone mentioned, plus viewing figres trending well for latest series v last year and hopefully the final Downton Abbey could pinch enough viewers off Eastenders and Mrs B B to help it win.

Its no certainty but at 10/1 it almost certainly is value....
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 10:00 PM GMT
On your word, have put a bit up at 11.0.
With so few posts in 14 years, this thread must have worn you out! Don`t be a stranger, we`re not a bad lot.
Report againstthecrowd December 23, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
Yes,cheers Tim,  the reason I 'left' is that I had a very good run with posts like this but felt it impossible to sustain... lets face it, the main thing is the profit... great to get appreciated as well, but if you lose you dont appreciate the stick .. so dont need to bother...PS.. If you dont get matched at the 11 you still may have a couple of chances to get 10/1 with various books tomorrow... good luck !
Report timbuctooth December 23, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
Thanks. Don`t know who would have been giving you grief for posting losers, we all have those. That`s irrelevant, though; all we need on here are value bets, with a bit of reasoning. Find those, and the winners will come along just fine.
Were you lurking all the while?
Report bearcub December 23, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
Cool
Report kh89 December 24, 2015 11:04 AM GMT
The rules don't state whether +1 and HD is included if it is Corrie is worth a small bet at the long odds. It was highest rated show last night with +1 and HD included.
Report kh89 December 24, 2015 11:11 AM GMT
Actually the rules do mention simulcast brodcasts not counting towards average, i guess that would mean the +1 channel.
Report bearcub December 24, 2015 11:51 AM GMT
The simulcast broadcast reference is with regards to the Queens rant
Report armagnac December 24, 2015 12:15 PM GMT
on strictly and call the midwife, bit worried the final will tarnish strictly's chances but great time slot this time around
im sue plenty will tune in too see len still seething about jay winning Grin
Report kh89 December 24, 2015 12:16 PM GMT
strictly xmas was filmed weeks ago
Report timbuctooth December 24, 2015 12:27 PM GMT
Ignore army, kh, he`s clueless!
Report bearcub December 24, 2015 12:57 PM GMT
Army's new posting style is to take a bit from everyone elses posts and jumble them up to make them his own

Army is foty in waiting imo Cool
Report armagnac December 24, 2015 1:48 PM GMT
oh was it
DOH Grin
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2015 2:39 PM GMT
Call the midwife would have a fair chance but fact Miranda Hart not in it this year is a negative, also it looked a bit miserable on preview, could weaken it but probably not enough to let corrie in..
Report armagnac December 24, 2015 3:01 PM GMT
think corrie starts 15mins after on itv
hoping everyone just leaves there tv on after strictly, whilst waiting for eastenders to start..so loads of extra viewers on top of the regs
easy 10 million, thanks Cool
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2015 4:54 PM GMT
Anyone desperate for a bet, this market closes at 11.59 so its too late after midnight mass.. ;)
Report armagnac December 24, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
im always desperate for a bet, just a shame there's not more specials to bet on Tongue Out
i always lose on everything else Sad
Report kh89 December 24, 2015 6:45 PM GMT
Big cliffhanger in tonights eastenders leading into xmas day epiosde.

DomTreadwellCollins ‏@dominictc 3h
Our special Christmas Eve #EastEnders is tonight at 2030hrs. You're going to want to watch this doof doof LIVE...

Alex Lamb ‏@alexlamb81 2h
8:30pm tonight... #EastEnders is unmissable tonight... Some surprises up our sleeves

Alex Lamb ‏@alexlamb81 2h
#EastEnders 8:30pm 2nite ends one of our 6 month long secrets @TheRoryJohn @chris_clenshaw @JeromeBN @MattACampbell #EastEndersStoryCrew

BBC EastEnders ‏@bbceastenders 3h
Coming very soon...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXAD4a1WkAAadwi.jpg:large
Report BigRob1 December 24, 2015 6:52 PM GMT
Does anyone fancy the queen to do well ,, the odd bookies are combining both bbc and itv figures ,the fact she won combined last year 14/1 seems big this year both channels combined ?

Viewing figures were down last year my theory is most now have recording sky boxes or similar and record things like eastenders and mrs browns boys but anyone watching the queen will watch it live .
Report BigRob1 December 24, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
Ignore my post boyles have took the market down they had the 14/1.


Boyles rules
"Appplies to Top Viewing Figures as appears on BBC.com on the 26/12/2015 .Doesn't include +1 viewing figures "
Report timbuctooth December 24, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
Wasn`t there speculation last year that the Queen was going to say something important, possibly re. abdication?
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
Yes there was a bit, the queen had not topped the day for years but dont forget it only topped things with both channels , whereas most bookies and betfair exchange have channel broadcasts  as separate ITV and BBC for queen
Report timbuctooth December 25, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
Don`t watch tv, but left a few bets up, see what was taken, and hope for the best. Only three bits matched; 10.0 SCD (happy with that, as all the shrewdies seem to be on), 160 CTM (no idea if that`s value or not), and laid MBB at 1.53 (gotta take on these shorties!)

Merry Christmas.
Report kh89 December 25, 2015 10:12 AM GMT
Xmas Eve ratings.

Coronation Street: 6.26m (28.1%) ITV1/+1
EastEnders: 5.70m (24.8%) BBC1
Emmerdale: 5.54m (26.3%) ITV/+1
Peter Kay: 20 Years of Funny: 4.84m (22.7%) BBC1
Pointless Celebrities Christmas Special: 3.87m (18.3%) BBC1
Walliams & Friend: 3.83m (20.4%) BBC1
Would I Lie to You: 3.56m (16.0%) BBC1
Celebrity Mastermind: 3.55m (18.1%) BBC1
Finding Nemo: 3.17m (22.3%) BBC1
Not Going Out: 2.92m (19.2%) BBC1
The Abba Christmas Party: 2.80m (12.6%) ITV/+1
Professor Branestawm: 2.47m (13.9%)
Through the Christmas Keyhole: 2.18m (12.3%) ITV/+1
Report Cider December 26, 2015 9:41 AM GMT
DA 6.9m: (29.6%)
Call the Midwife: 5.80m (24.5%)
EastEnders: 5.73m (23.8%)
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 10:35 AM GMT
Are they the `overnight` figures? Has DA won?
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:35 AM GMT
Yes Timothy
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:36 AM GMT
Downton 6.9m
Strictly 6.5m
Mrs Brown 6.4m
Stick Man 6.4m
Corrie 5.9m
Call the Midwife 5.8m
Doctor Who 5.8m
EastEnders 5.7m
Brave 5.5m
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 10:36 AM GMT
Very quick reply, bear! So the odds-on jolly unplaced? Small winner for me.
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 10:37 AM GMT
Sorry, just seen your full list.
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:42 AM GMT
Although there are some conflicting figures about Tim, and the rules aren't as clear as they ought to be
Report BigRob1 December 26, 2015 10:43 AM GMT
UK TV Ratings ‏@RatingsUK  51m51 minutes ago
The Queen: 6.1m on BBC1, 1.3m on ITV.

The combined figure of 7.4m makes it yesterday's most watched.



Thats strange as l cant see the queen 6.1m bbc on the lists yet they are saying she was most watched combined
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 10:48 AM GMT
What sort of confusion? Just re. TQS, as Big Rob is talking about?
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
26 DECEMBER 2015 - 9:42AM | POSTED BY STEPHEN LEPITAK
The Queen's Speech simulcast on BBC1 and ITV1 is the most watched TV programme on Christmas Day

The Queen has won the Christmas TV ratings battle with an overall audience of 7.82 million, broadcast simultaneously on BBC1 and ITV at 3pm, with Mrs Browns Boys second in the overnight figures with 7.61 million as figures overall fell on last year.

According to figures released by the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB), including both the Queen’s Speech and Mrs Brown’s Boys, of the 10 most watched programmes on Christmas Day, BB1 broadcast seven with Eastenders (7.55 million), Strictly Come Dancing (6.98 million), Call the Midwife (6.83 million) and Doctor Who (6.34 million).

The Queen attracted 5.71 million viewers on BBC 1, but only 2.11 on ITV.

Aside from broadcasting the Queen’s speech, ITV’s best watch programme for the day was Coronation Street (6.41 million), then Emmerdale (5.53 million) and the final episode of Downton Abbey  (5.52 million) which was the 10th most watched show of the day.


That article would give it to MBB
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:55 AM GMT
Luckily I have horses to distract me so I'll let others figure it out
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 10:55 AM GMT
WHAAAAAAT??? Now you`re telling me my only loser actually won? Are you mugging off the old hippy?
Report bearcub December 26, 2015 10:56 AM GMT
I think them are Peak figures Tim
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 11:25 AM GMT
OK, after looking elsewhere, seems DA is the winner, at least for those bookies settling on the overnight figures. Which will be most of them.
Report againstthecrowd December 26, 2015 11:28 AM GMT
Figures in post of Bearcub look like last year's... Ive seen Downton as winner on what looked a proper site but no places shown there..
Report kh89 December 26, 2015 11:31 AM GMT
Christmas Day 2015 - Overnights
BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.26m (32.4%)
09:00 - Shrek the Halls: 2.18m (25.6%)
09:20 - Clangers: 1.77m (19.5%)
09:35 - Danger Mouse: 1.42m (14.4%)
10:00 - Christmas Day Service Live from Bath Abbey: 1.13m (10.0%)
11:00 - FILM: The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause: 1.50m (12.3%)
12:25 - FILM: Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted: 2.26m (18.5%)
13:50 - BBC News at One: 2.34m (20.1%)
14:00 - Top of the Pops Christmas: 2.83m (23.1%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.10m (39.1%)
15:10 - FILM: Brave: 5.50m (35.4%)
16:35 - BBC News: 5.36m (32.5%)
16:45 - Stick Man: 6.36m (34.5%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 5.77m (29.4%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 6.49m (30.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife Christmas Special: 5.80m (24.5%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 5.73m (23.8%)
21:45 - Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas Special: 6.41m (27.7%)
22:25 - Michael McIntyre's Big Christmas Show: 3.62m (20.4%)

BBC Two
18:30 - World's Sneakiest Animals: 1.10m (5.1%)
19:30 - Dad's Army: 1.53m (6.5%)
20:00 - The Two Ronnies Christmas Special: 1.47m (6.2%)
20:50 - Darcey's Ballet Heroes: 1.01m (4.2%)
21:50 - QI: 0.81m (3.5%)
22:20 - We're Doomed! The Dad's Army Story: 0.94m (5.1%)

ITV (inc +1)
09:25 - FILM: Santa Claus: The Movie: 1.68m (15.3%)
11:30 - FILM: Happy Feet: 1.56m (12.6%)
15:00 - HM The Queen: 1.34m (8.6%)
15:10 - Cameraman to the Queen: 1.05m (6.9%)
16:10 - Countrywise Winter Wonderland: 1.17m (7.0%)
17:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs at Christmas: 3.15m (16.2%)
18:00 - ITV Evening News: 3.61m (18.1%)
18:15 - You've Been Framed!: 3.08m (14.9%)
18:45 - Emmerdale: 4.42m (19.9%)
19:45 - Coronation Street: 5.85m (24.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.88m (29.6%)
22:45 - Our Cilla: 2.11m (14.0%)

Channel 4 (inc +1)
17:45 - FILM: Home Alone 2: Lost in New York: 2.81m (13.1%)
20:00 - Gogglesprogs: 2.60m (10.8%)
21:00 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man Christmas Special: 1.19m (5.3%)

Channel 5 (inc +1)
15:15 - The Wizard of Oz: 1.11m (6.9%)
17:15 - Michael Buble's Christmas 2015: 0.89m (4.4%)
18:00 - Britain's Favourite Christmas Songs: 0.90m (4.0%)
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 11:34 AM GMT
There we go!
Report cnman December 26, 2015 11:36 AM GMT
got a link please kh89?
Report kh89 December 26, 2015 11:38 AM GMT
Full list from Digital Spy Ratings Thread and Doctor Who Forum Ratings thread.

articles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35167041

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/downton-abbey/news/a778235/uk-tv-ratings-downton-abbey-bows-out-with-6m-for-christmas-day-grand-finale/
Report BigRob1 December 26, 2015 11:40 AM GMT
So its Downtown Abbey for most bookies and The Queen for any bookies who combined both channels have l got that right ?
Report kh89 December 26, 2015 11:43 AM GMT
Yes
Report kh89 December 26, 2015 11:46 AM GMT
Unlucky BigRob1, just read back this.

BigRob1 • December 24, 2015 6:52 PM GMT
Does anyone fancy the queen to do well ,, the odd bookies are combining both bbc and itv figures ,the fact she won combined last year 14/1 seems big this year both channels combined ?

BigRob1 • December 24, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
Ignore my post boyles have took the market down they had the 14/1
Report kh89 December 26, 2015 11:48 AM GMT
or did you get your bet on before it was took down?
Report cnman December 26, 2015 11:51 AM GMT
thanks kh89
Report againstthecrowd December 26, 2015 12:00 PM GMT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35167041

This is I think official  ... Taking out the Queen as was 6.1 m on BBC for purposes of market , result is  1) 6.6m Downton 2) 6.5m Strictly  3 6.4m  Mrs Browns Boys  4  ) 6.4 m Stick Man 
Personally am gutted re Strictly... the 'final Downton did knock enough out of MBB and Eastenders to help Strictly top BBC but managed to nick in 0.1 m above it ...  Damn...
Report timbuctooth December 26, 2015 12:10 PM GMT
You got the value atc. Long term, that`s all that`s necessary, just gotta take the losers along the way.
Report againstthecrowd December 26, 2015 12:19 PM GMT
Cheers TIm, though this is disppointing... ITV 'never' tops it..as a rule, Downton 10th last year... The 'final episode' thing has turned it probably helped by a fairly poor Call the midwife on BBC leading up to Eastenders etc , 0.1 m on sample could be a couple of homes viewing only in reality on sample ...   I feel strangely upbeat but its a sod really..
Report BigRob1 December 26, 2015 5:41 PM GMT
kh99 yes l was backing the queen at 8/1 during the week ,, hardly put any more when they pushed it to 14/1 as l was starting to doubt myself
as l didnt read anywhere that someone fancied her to do well.

My angle behind it was and I think Im right now is that with recordable boxes less people watch tv on the day as they have all their programmes recorded , but nobody would record the queen to watch it later any boyles adding both channels was key with their rule of settling it on 26/12/2015

Boyles rules
"Appplies to Top Viewing Figures as appears on BBC.com on the 26/12/2015 .Doesn't include +1 viewing figures "

I didnt win as much as l should have as l started to doubt myself and the feckers haven't paid out yet ,with these novelties untill you get the money Im always weary of the bookies.
Report touche December 28, 2015 7:53 AM GMT
when can we expect a settlement?
Report carpet1 December 28, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
whats the hold up any ideas?
Report timbuctooth December 28, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
No one knows. This market was settled on Boxing Day last year, and the year before.
Report timbuctooth December 28, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
Settled.
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