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TheMadness
12 Jul 13 20:32
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Should one trust tvpolls this week?
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Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 12:21 AM BST
Charlie has the nicest character of all the females.
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 12:24 AM BST
Amazing given how awful her mum is
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 12:27 AM BST
I don't mind Jackie.
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 12:31 AM BST
Wolfy can expect a knock on the door from the TV licence people. Laugh
Report timbuctooth July 13, 2013 12:41 AM BST
The HN`s gave Sophie the bumps yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKGnT2TttGM


So it`s not as if there was no celebration in the house. I don`t remember a more blatant statement of intent from TPTB since Aaron. Even happier with my max red on her.
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 12:55 AM BST
Not only that but she went birthday shopping too and they didn't even mention her birthday in the highlights. She's quite dull and thick and would be a very poor winner on what we have seen. She's just the default choice of some people at the moment as she's quite inoffensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEtJwU7DJaU
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 12:58 AM BST
Yes, I think she's probably been a disappointment to TPTB.
I suspect they're disappointed with Sam too
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 12:59 AM BST
His price looks crazy
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 12:59 AM BST
I think Charlie has more than both of them
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 1:03 AM BST
I'd have Gina, Dexter, Charlie, Dan & The twins ahead of Sam. Even though I don't like the last 2 and quite like Sam
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 1:03 AM BST
..what we see of him
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 1:08 AM BST
You can't ignore Sam's chances because the producers may be planning to make a big issue of his disability in the latter stages. I agree his price is quite short at the moment and I wouldn't be lumping on right now hoping he gets a big sympathy vote at the end.
Report timbuctooth July 13, 2013 1:12 AM BST
Charlie hitting her stride nicely. Becoming more involved, and more of a central character in the house. And, crucially, the more we see of her, the more she comes across as a very decent sort. Much as I love Dexter, (and her, for that matter), she needs to not get invokved with him. Don`t want her cast in the homewrecker role.
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 1:26 AM BST
She talks some real crap when drunk though
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 1:28 AM BST
But most people do tbf
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 1:31 AM BST
I'm starting to like Dan Shocked
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Most people will by the final week. WinkCool
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Dexter seems capable of understanding what's going on, but his need to be wanted overpowers his ability to play a rational game.
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 1:36 AM BST
I have mixed feeling about Dan. Isn't he like 'marmite'?
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 1:36 AM BST
He's too much of an overt game-player so no one trusts him.
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 1:37 AM BST
Dexter that is.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 1:38 AM BST
Dan has got these people thinking and talking too much
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 1:40 AM BST
It's Dexter that's been playing with their minds the last few days.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 1:44 AM BST
Gist of the conversation seems to be that Dexter and his "girlfriend" have arranged his perving over a girl in the house in an effort to get the girlfriend publicity and interviews and make money
Report Only-the-Brave July 13, 2013 1:45 AM BST
charlie's fcuked it here.  Sh1t-stirring massively.  All of this 'gina says xyz,' and then relaying to others.  Either her or dexter get a bad edit tomorrow - depends what producers want.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 1:47 AM BST
I think she's telling the truth as she sees it or has heard it.
Report Only-the-Brave July 13, 2013 1:50 AM BST
perhaps, but because she's p1ssed she's doing it in a stirring type of way.  Bringing other hms into it, keeps falling back on 'even gina said...', and even implying to daley as if he's being mugged off but not backing it up.  Then telling each housemate what gina/dex said about them from safehouse footage.

As we all know it all depends on what the producers are after.  One of them will get made to look bad though if it's shown - just depends which way they want to go.
Report scampi July 13, 2013 1:51 AM BST
I hate the way Charlie says "???? is very intelligent" then proceeds to slag that person off for the next 15 minutes... quite a sh*t-stirrer.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 1:54 AM BST
DS will crucify Charlie. But my own view is that though he is a great housemate, it's eprfectly understandable why they would find him utterly untrustworthy. The guy came out and told Hazel she got 4 nominations rather than 2. There's no way he forgot how many she got and so the impression it gives them is that he just likes telling lies and playing with people.
Report Only-the-Brave July 13, 2013 1:56 AM BST
agree, but dex gets away with it somehow.  Charlie won't - she's incredibly dull for someone so young.  Surprising that gina has talked against dex to charlie.  She's smart though - doesn't get too involved.  Doubt the producer's will even show it tomorrow.  Compared to say Charlie or Dexter who go round the houses speaking to everyone, in turn giving editors footage which can be used either way.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:02 AM BST
They cut it off just as it gets interesting
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:02 AM BST
View Poll Results: Is Charlie right about Dexter,s motives?
Yes, he is using people for his own ends        21    46.67%
No, he genuinely likes her and Daley        13    28.89%
Partly right, partly wrong        9    20.00%
I want Dexter as a friend        7    15.56%
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 2:04 AM BST
Dexter exposes his hand too quick. I'm not surprised he had big gambling losses.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:04 AM BST
Damn sight better than the 7 - 9 live feed. Whoever thought of that was clearly an idiot
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:04 AM BST
Damn! I was enjoying that.
Dexter clearly tells some porkies but I think he genuinely likes Charlie and what he said to hazel was spot on. She was coming across terribly when she was messing about with Daley
He's just very bad at showing his feelings
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:05 AM BST
Dexter's the sort of egomaniac who if someone suspects he has some crafty plan he'd probably take credit for the genius of it even though it's not true and it also make him look like a manipulative creep
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:07 AM BST
I do wish someone would just point out that he's clearly a sex starved scrawny short arse liable to develop feelings for any woman that shows him a modicum of interest
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:07 AM BST
I don't see him as an egomaniac at all. I think he's deeply insecure and puts on a front to cover it up
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:08 AM BST
I'd totally agree with that TM Laugh
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:10 AM BST
I think you can be both.
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 2:11 AM BST
He certainly wants attention which overpowers his ability to play a rational game.
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:14 AM BST
he's a fascinating character anyway
I just wish we had the 24/7 live feed back.
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 2:17 AM BST
yes, a small charge for the series and 24 hour live feed could probably be made cost effective.
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:19 AM BST
Live feed is like watching all the twist and turns of a five day test match. A lot of the time not much happens but it's a far more rewarding experience than an hours HL's
Report five leaves left July 13, 2013 2:20 AM BST
Now I'll have to find some music or porn to amuse myself while playing poker
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 2:21 AM BST
omg, Gina was matched at 2.62
Report timbuctooth July 13, 2013 2:25 AM BST
five leaves left 13 Jul 13 02:07 
I don't see him as an egomaniac at all. I think he's deeply insecure and puts on a front to cover it up


Spot on. And that vulnerability is a huge part of his appeal.



Don`t ask why, but Ive been re-watching tonight`s episode. The four up for eviction were around the table, with Jackie crying. Then they all toast each other, and someone unseen (Charlie?) says ` and cheers to Sophie for her birthday`.
I`m fascinated by the lack of coverage of the birthday.
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 2:28 AM BST
I suspect the footage was dull so they decided to leave it out. That task she has with the camera capturing her expressions. she was told it was for BOTS and made little effort to be entertaining.
Report timbuctooth July 13, 2013 2:38 AM BST
She can`t win without a massive five-week long push from TPTB. Bearing in mind there wasn`t a balloon or party hat in sight on her 21st, we can safely assume that won`t be happening. So, why is anyone still backing her?
Report Cider July 13, 2013 7:19 AM BST
The prods are all about creating an interesting show right now (for which material is abundant). The overall winner is totally secondary. I doubt there is a 'tco' at all, but there are hms that create good material thus a prods dream. Gina is fav now, imv a true double figure chance of winning.
Report Henry VIII July 13, 2013 8:03 AM BST
Agree with all of that Cider except your last sentence. Why should Gina be double figures?

She's a risky one alright but all the others are dull or unpleasant. So a worthy fav imv.
Report Cider July 13, 2013 8:33 AM BST
imv she's a type that fans will enjoy as a housemate, but not vote to win.
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 2:28 PM BST
I'd certainly not be backing her at current odds, far too long to go and she's a risky bet.
For the record I was lucky to get on at big odds but there's no way I'd back her at such low odds with 5 weeks to go.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:47 PM BST
She's a good housemate, but there are things about her people genuinely like, from the fact that she doesn't mind doing horrible tasks whilst wearing no make up at all (and what a sight that is) to things like her "Girl Code" speech and how blunt she was with Daley when he asked how he came across. She also recognised that Callum was being rather harshly treated. Her moral compass doesn't always take her in the right direction, and she may go a bit overboard with the loathing of Jackie, but she seems to always get herself into an underdog position and not give a damn. Dexter has managed to work himself into that little group of Daley, Hazel and Charlie despite none of them trusting him, whilst Gina remains a loner with her own storyline. I don't think her support is as secure as Aaron's was and it is a vote to evict rather than vote to save, but even with weeks left, I think she's in a very strong position.
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 2:51 PM BST
yes, good post TM
worthy fav atm
the only worry is self implosion
Report Jack Bauer '24' July 13, 2013 2:57 PM BST
It is far more difficult for females than it is for males to be forgiven by the viewers for any big mistakes. The voters can easily turn against females on this show.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 2:59 PM BST
True. But with Gina everything could have been a mistake, yet she's popular anyway
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:00 PM BST
Apparently a pair have been voted into the safe house. Didn't realize the phone lines closed that quickly. Someone on DS is saying it's Hazel and Daley but they're probably probably a hysterical Ginxter fan. Every poll I've seen had it close between Dex/Charl and Gina/Dan
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:02 PM BST
last year deana hearing the crowd made her think she was invincible and eventually the mistake came and cost her.
did gina learn from this ?
will she too fall at the same hurdle ?
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:03 PM BST
Army, what the fook are you on about? Deana never heard the crowd... She lost it because she took the p out of Luke S not pressing the button. Not that she was ever going to beat Luke A anyway
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:06 PM BST
yes she did, during one eviction the crowd were chanting and cheering her.
someone posted this already as well
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 3:08 PM BST
Dean became over confident after being announced the first saved when up for eviction. Her confidence brought out a mean side that took pleasure from the stupidity Luke S.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:09 PM BST
They heard the crowd every week, and she won one of the votes and then they stopped announcing it in order. She didn't get cocky... She just relished winding Luke S up.
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:12 PM BST
Your memories are seriously faulty. Deana was only announced as the person with the most votes once (when up against Becky, Conor and Arron)... She did not then become cocky and put viewers off. She was up many times after and continued to poll well. She was second to Luke A when they were all up and beat Adam in one of the last eviction votes as well when the percentages were announced later. Going into the last week she was favourite to win and only lost votes because she became annoying with her constant winding up of Luke S for not pressing the button. At best though, she was never going to finish above 2nd.
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:17 PM BST
impossible, im never wrong
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:19 PM BST
Laugh
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:22 PM BST
Laugh more like i was p!ssed and thats what i remember
your right, you was a super deana fan Love
Report Henry VIII July 13, 2013 3:23 PM BST
At best though, she was never going to finish above 2nd.

ru sure?
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:25 PM BST
TM is just easing the pain of his almighty green he had H
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:27 PM BST
its daley & hazel
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:27 PM BST
that is utter bull sh!t
video up btw
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:29 PM BST
twins go up, there gone
Report squares July 13, 2013 3:30 PM BST
oh good grief, going to be unwatchable like

Josie and John James
Luke and Rebecca
Anthony and Craig
NE bint and Chicken Stu
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:31 PM BST
dexter in trouble as well
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:32 PM BST
there is no way that was a public vote
hazel only saved by 150 votes
your telling me the public that nearly voted her out, put her in there with daley
there needs to be an investigation into this
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:34 PM BST
"TM is just easing the pain of his almighty green he had H"

Was level on all 3 actually
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:35 PM BST
"ru sure?"

Never beat Luke A in a vote to save. Even at the height of her popularity
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:35 PM BST
Some sort of investigation should be launched into that result. Every online poll had Dexter/Charlie or Gina/Dan winning the vote
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 3:40 PM BST
Get Dan on the caseLaugh
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:40 PM BST
Haha Laugh
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 3:41 PM BST
I do agree that result has to be a FIX.
Report Henry VIII July 13, 2013 3:41 PM BST
Did they announce sh vote in HLs or BOTS?
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed July 13, 2013 3:42 PM BST
OK, own up. Who multi voted Dazel thinking they would see Hazel in the bath tub?
Report Henry VIII July 13, 2013 3:45 PM BST
At best it would have been announced at end of HL. Therefore no voting through any HL, when most votes are made. Even though they got 1.5 mill viewers (I think I read) SH votes would have only been in the thousands, maybe even hundreds.

So anything could happen. Especially if Hazel has a publicity team behind her.
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:48 PM BST
deffo something not right, her agent spent the whole time voting imo with people helping
Report Cider July 13, 2013 3:49 PM BST
They've all probably been behind her at some stage, Henry.
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 3:49 PM BST
i hope thats the case, coz im ashamed to be a fan right now
great chance of twins going though Excited
Report Henry VIII July 13, 2013 3:50 PM BST
And Daley might have publicity behind him. These two more than any, more than the fake Gina and Dexter facades.
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 3:55 PM BST
I do hope the Evil twins are upLaugh
Hope the twist isn't Daley & Hazel nominate as they may put Gina & Dexter upSad
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 3:55 PM BST
Who votes on crap like that? Maybe a few casuals at the end of the HL show but it's the DS fanatics that tend to, and their poll suggested the other 2 pairings would have got twice as many if not three times as many votes
Report bearcub July 13, 2013 4:00 PM BST
I doubt they managed to get 1000 votes in total on that

Easy enough to fix for anyone
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 4:01 PM BST
stinks like wolfy's bra strap
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 4:12 PM BST
So, Callum vs. Gina vs. Dexter next week
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 4:13 PM BST
If it turns out that Daley's girlfriend is going to be put in the safe house, then clearly it was fixed
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 4:35 PM BST
TheMadness
 
So, Callum vs. Gina vs. Dexter next week


If they (Hazel/Daley) get to save one....It may well be Gina/Dexter H2H.
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 4:37 PM BST
dex is in proper poo poo
Report lookingon July 13, 2013 4:43 PM BST
It makes you wonder where the extra 100+ votes come from last night to get rid of Wolfy!
Report armagnac July 13, 2013 4:47 PM BST
thank god Laugh
Report TheMadness July 13, 2013 4:55 PM BST
"TheMadness
 
So, Callum vs. Gina vs. Dexter next week


If they (Hazel/Daley) get to save one....It may well be Gina/Dexter H2H."

I just can't see them putting themselves in a position where that might happen. We all know they make it up as they go along and trust in the stupidity of the viewers to not notice how they're fixing it. Losing 1 of the 2 characters viewers have some emotional investment in would be damaging for the show
Report Only-the-Brave July 13, 2013 5:20 PM BST
callum or jackie gone next week it seems.  Unless there's a double in which case dex also in trouble you'd think.
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