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popking
16 May 13 18:52
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We had one way earlier than this on Tuesday lol. :)
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Report popking May 17, 2013 1:15 AM BST
I just keep refreshing the usual blogs. :)
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:17 AM BST
are they going to be released at 3am cet or before 3am cet?
Report CowaBanga May 17, 2013 1:17 AM BST
ukraine- azerbaijan  and italy seem like the overated songs to me, this is why the top ten market has so much value this year

in terms of the winner it will end up being a two way fight between norway and denmark
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Before 3am UK time AFAIK.

The order of qualifiers on this page is interesting.

http://www.svt.se/melodifestivalen/eurovision-song-contest-2013-hela-resultatet
Report CowaBanga May 17, 2013 1:19 AM BST
2am  uk time probs on twitter
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:20 AM BST
Although, on closer examination tonight's list is in performance order lol.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:20 AM BST
i seen that too popking, the order given is not the order that they were pulled out or in order of actual performance so why have it listed the way given.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:21 AM BST
performance order would be estonia, denmark etc.
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:22 AM BST
Semi 2 is in performance order I meant.
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:22 AM BST

May 17, 2013 -- 1:20AM, popking wrote:


Although, on closer examination tonight's list is in performance order lol.


yes for tonight. Ithe 1st semi is more interesting

Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:22 AM BST
indeed bex
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:22 AM BST
Semi 1 is close to running order
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:23 AM BST
estonia and russia isn't though
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:24 AM BST
I must admit i did take a few positions based on the svt article... mainly thats when I started my Netherlands top 10 backing

Hard to see Russia down in 8th though
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:25 AM BST
but nothing I wouldnt have considered anyway...
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:26 AM BST
and Lithuania top 10 being the other one
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:28 AM BST
What price did you get for Ned top 10?  I am thinking that boar has sailed.
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:28 AM BST
boat*
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:29 AM BST
OK I have a couple of questions/suppositions:
1) With the the West Balkans and Bulgaria out - does this mean that the vote will tilt more towards eurovision fanboy territory (as voters will be less interested in voting). If so that may mean the jury votes count for more. It might help Greece but if voters are less motivated we may have some strange results.
2) Given that the voting blocks are so out of kilter how anyone can justify Denmark's odds is beyond me as there is MAJOR upset potential. It's a decent song and performed well but it is not cutting edge and appeals to fans of the more old fashioned eurovision sound (whistles, drums, pseudo celtic sound). It is more likely to just scrape through than be a runaway winner. I think there will be twists and turns aplenty and that one has to favour an Eastern entry which for me would be a pity as my favourites are France, Norway and Finland.
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:29 AM BST
when i started it was 2.5 ish i think but soon became 2.2/2.3  - overall im on at not much overs evens tbh pop
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:29 AM BST
Lithuania could be dangerous too
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:34 AM BST
hard questions to be definitive over ... i'd say the Denmark oddsa are because of

http://esctracker.com/

and the feeling Norway for want of a better description is a bit 'cold'
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:34 AM BST
i just hope that the balkans don't boycot the soviet block and the scandinavian block in protest of not being able to qualify. That would result in strange voting but I don't believe that they would do such a thing.
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:36 AM BST
I agree about Norway being cold but I'm a little leery of Denmark's performance on the tracker (it might be a second like Eric Saade was). It might be eurovision fans buying into it more than the general public.

Are all the other countries for sale in all territories?
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:37 AM BST
No, but most are now available in most countries.
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:37 AM BST
It would be interesting to see what kind of minorities there are in Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro - Russians probably
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:38 AM BST
Ah I see, thanks.

Anyway I think Denmark is a likely winner but we will surely have some changes of position this time.
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:38 AM BST
No runaway leader I hope
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:39 AM BST
I'd hate for aDenmark runaway win. Was really looking forward to trading the win market last year Cry
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:39 AM BST
iTunes and youtube are useful parts of the jigsaw but as we've seen in other shows, not always great predictors
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:41 AM BST
i like to see excitement with say 3 or 5 countries neck and neck in voting
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:41 AM BST
I really can't see a runaway winner.  When Greece won, they were still reading all the points for every country and the voting took ages and ages.  She was only about 8th or so after half the voting and was very exciting even without the formula that is supposed to make it that way now.
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:42 AM BST
tweet on sofabet suggests draw is done... but no link to follow to it
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:42 AM BST
;-) it's great. That BBC 3 doc the other night showed when the UK was pipped on the last vote by Switzerland (Celine Dion) - it would be marvellous if we could have something close to that..
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:42 AM BST
well their was that tie in 1991 between sweden and france
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:43 AM BST
they had to do a count back of 12's to determine the winner
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:43 AM BST
yes, Sietse Bakker ‏@SietseBakker 3m

History in the making! We just passed the first ever determined running order at the #Eurovision Song Contest!
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:43 AM BST
Innocent times..
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:44 AM BST
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=running_order_for_the_grand_final_revealed
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:44 AM BST
Event Supervisor at Eurovision Song Contest, ^^^
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:44 AM BST
It was close in 1998 and 1999 too, final votes determined the winner.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:44 AM BST
ireland gets the pimp slot
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
You will be happy for Netherlands. :)
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
France
    Lithuania
    Moldova
    Finland
    Spain
    Belgium
    Estonia
    Belarus
    Malta
    Russia
    Germany
    Armenia
    The Netherlands
    Romania
    United Kingdom
    Sweden
    Hungary
    Denmark
    Iceland
    Azerbaijan
    Greece
    Ukraine
    Italy
    Norway
    Georgia
    Ireland
Report bearcub May 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
Great draw for AnoukLove
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
Love
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
poor France
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
and Ireland close the show as I expected
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
well i guess you are happyExcited
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
I am as happy as I could be for Malta, Germany, Georgia, Azer, Italy.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
italy yay
Report bearcub May 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
I'm happy with all that Happy
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
will the winning market odds change to reflect i wonder
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
Yes yay for Italy and Netherlands
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
maggie fans will be happy
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:48 AM BST
Italy after Ukraine could kill Ukraines chances if he brings his A game
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:48 AM BST
i think lithuania are fooked
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:49 AM BST
Yes. They've not been too nice to Andrius. A very strange decision for him to open the show
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:50 AM BST
not looking good for uk i think in 15th
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:50 AM BST
Belgium or Lithuania 2nd after a female makes sense to me.
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:51 AM BST
Natherlands great draw following Germany & Armenia
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:51 AM BST
Italy, Norway, Georgia... that could be a strong block
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:51 AM BST
Oh sorry. I missed France
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:53 AM BST
Swedes must have a weird taste in music to have a song like France start the show - it's far too intense
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:53 AM BST
has being in 18th position ever won?
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 1:54 AM BST
Indeed sectioned. Germany or Belarus would have made much more sense
Report popking May 17, 2013 1:55 AM BST
I am pretty happy with Germany's draw - and Georgia's although my hopes for the latter are fading.
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:56 AM BST
Oh well, it always takes a couple of songs for people to get into it anyway. Every Eurovision party I've been to has had far too much chatting, eating and drinking early on that you only really begin to take notice when it gets dark outside
Report bexley May 17, 2013 1:58 AM BST
Very happy with the r/o and got a few things right like ireland and italy being very late. Should make some trading profits at the very least Laugh
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:59 AM BST
loads a moneyExcited
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 1:59 AM BST
harry enfield moment
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 1:59 AM BST
Moldova in third place isn't exactly the best call too. It looks to me that they decided the running order more based on odds than on how the songs would work together as a show. They want to seem to be fair so they put the favourites in the first half as much as possible into the middle. It's so contrived it's untrue
Report bexley May 17, 2013 2:00 AM BST
tbf Denmark , between Hungary and Iceland is hardly a loser even tho its 18...
Report bexley May 17, 2013 2:01 AM BST
its going to stand out well relative to these static performances
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:01 AM BST
No, Denmark are well drawn - Norway's draw is worse although it is later.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:01 AM BST
and norway between italy and georgia doesn't help me think
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:02 AM BST
Odds of a break after Denmark?
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:02 AM BST
1.01
Report Sekt10ned May 17, 2013 2:03 AM BST
when were they last year anyone?
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:03 AM BST
where was the breaks last year?
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:03 AM BST
The last break was a little later last year I think.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:03 AM BST
was there a break near italy last year
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:04 AM BST
i seem to recall 10 to 13th for one
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:04 AM BST
Maybe they will break after Iceland trying to damage Azer.
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:05 AM BST
There is an extended break, usually after song 13, and 2 mini breaks  - 1 in each half.  It looks to me like they will be after Estonia and Iceland.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:05 AM BST
stick one after malta to ruin russia
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:13 AM BST
Last years breaks came after 12 and 17

1: U.K.
2: Hungary
3: Albania .
4. Lithuania
5. B&H
6: Russia
7: Iceland
8: Cyprus
9: France
10: Italy
11. Estonia
12. Norway
Break
13: Azerbaijan
14: Romania
15: Denmark
16: Greece
17. Sweden
Short Break
18. Turkey
19: Spain
20: Germany
21. Malta
22. Macedonia
23: Ireland
24: Serbia
25. Ukraine
26: Moldova
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:14 AM BST
will there be the same this year i wonder
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:15 AM BST
There must have been an earlier one, no?
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:15 AM BST
so if same this year then break between armenia and netherlands and break between hungary and denmark
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:16 AM BST
We'll know tomorrow after the 1st rehearsal
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:17 AM BST
They are not gonna break after those songs.  I think my suggestion was most likely.
Report bexley May 17, 2013 2:20 AM BST
night night guys. Fun evening CoolCool
Report popking May 17, 2013 2:21 AM BST
Yep, been fun.  Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Night all.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:21 AM BST
night bex
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:21 AM BST
They may have to break after Denmark to clear the confetti
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:21 AM BST
13 and 18 would suit me
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:23 AM BST
night guys (tho I am staying up for the AI result)
A good 'draw' for me. Unlike the previous ones.
Report Corbyguy May 17, 2013 2:25 AM BST
night fll
Report five leaves left May 17, 2013 2:28 AM BST
night
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