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five leaves left
17 Dec 12 14:24
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I thought we needed one on here.

We might have to wait for a market though, with Turkey and Bosnia having withdrawn and others threatening do the same.

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By:
five leaves left
When: 21 Dec 12 16:26
The 39 countries who have signed up.

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=70813&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Participating+countries+2013+Press
By:
George Bailey
When: 22 Dec 12 16:08
Like with Christmas...can't wait won't wait Wink

And of the 39 in it only 10 will want to actually win.
By:
goonjim
When: 22 Dec 12 18:41
market up Excited
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 20:51
Our pleas worked, fig Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 20:53
Yay!
Seeing as it's probably their 2nd biggest specials market now and the only that they can get a head start on the HS firms, I'm surprised it took so long Wink
By:
ClayDavis
When: 22 Dec 12 21:00
when does the process get underway? I.e country's picking their acts?
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 21:21
Already underway, Clay. We know 4 countries' songs & Albania deciding tonight, Ukraine tomorrow. Then there are countless national finals throughout Jan, Feb & early March.
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:18
I liked the Albanian ballad that is one of the favs for tonight. Not as good as last years, but a possible top 10 again
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:18
We could do with a top 10 market too
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:19
Albania about to announce their representative...
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:20
Ell & Nikki just singing their 2011 winner Love
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:21
Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FMzbmERAKY

This was the one I liked
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:25
Lovely lady, Rona. Got my picture taken with her in Baku.
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:27
Seemed totally bonkers too Grin

My biggest winner in the top 10 market. Along with Estonia
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:28
And what a song...
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:29
Stupendous voice
By:
bexley
When: 22 Dec 12 22:30
She was bloomin awful - headache inducing. Still don't get it CryCry
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:32
Listening again. Superb!
By:
johnnyrant
When: 22 Dec 12 22:32
Qualifying lock & great bet for top 10.
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 22:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zIP4FA-1Y

Tongue Out  Bex
By:
five leaves left
When: 22 Dec 12 23:18
Albania have chosen another song to torture you again with this year Bex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqZixWuf2ns&feature=player_embedded
By:
George Bailey
When: 23 Dec 12 10:09
Pure marmite according to youtube likes/dislikes.  Personally I liked it though more for the 60s psychodelic music than the song itself and it would be great listening to it stoned in a Moroccan brothel...not sure what Norman Wisdom or CB Fry would make of it though.
By:
five leaves left
When: 23 Dec 12 12:58
This is one of the shows where being marmite is often a positive
By:
George Bailey
When: 23 Dec 12 15:06
Last new Golden Rule of the year it is then.  Still prefer 99% v 1% like Loreen mind Wink
By:
bexley
When: 23 Dec 12 15:09

Dec 22, 2012 -- 11:18PM, five leaves left wrote:


Albania have chosen another song to torture you again with this year Bexhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqZixWuf2ns&feature=player_embedded


Some mistake shirley no ugly bird with a huge pair of lungs?

By:
bexley
When: 23 Dec 12 15:09
it is kinda torture tho Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 23 Dec 12 16:58
I've pushed it out 19 now, Bex,  if you are interested Wink
By:
Henry VIII
When: 31 Dec 12 18:23
Actually George Loreen had one of the lowest like/dislike ratios on first and second rehearsal figures.

(The final, even though it was the same production as the rehearsals, might have scored better - I haven't looked - from people looking at it after the show ie to see what the winner's song is like.)
By:
George Bailey
When: 31 Dec 12 18:31
Henry I exaggerated for effect and yes she was marmite to a lot of ESC purists but even if 50v50 the millions of casuals on the night will have been closer to 80v20 if the result was anything to go by.  The viewers clearly saw/felt what I saw/felt when I first watched it.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 31 Dec 12 18:45
I don't know what difference there is between fans who watch YT before the event and casuals.

I think with Loreen, although marmite, it was the numbers involved. On 17 May she had 57% like/dislike and Estonia (just to compare) had 80%. But Sweden’s 57% was 1400 people and Estonia’s 80% was only 400.
By:
George Bailey
When: 31 Dec 12 19:06
I don't know what difference there is between fans who watch YT before the event and casuals.

About 200million at a conservative estimate.  Its the same difference between the hardcore viewers of specials who then get swamped by the casuals who turn up on the night and vote on what they see/feel.  Loreen was the whole visceral package despite what purists and youtubers said about not appealing to the masses.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 31 Dec 12 19:14
What about the difference in voting? I was thinking of that more than numbers. Loreen was a fan favourite so last year the fans and casuals voted for the same person.
By:
five leaves left
When: 31 Dec 12 19:17
The dreadful failure of many fans favourites show they are a totally insignificant 'voting block'
By:
George Bailey
When: 31 Dec 12 19:25
ESC fanatics are worse than DS when it comes to reflecting the zeitgeist. Clearly the fans and casuals didn't vote (proportionally) for the same person.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 31 Dec 12 19:54
ESC fanatics are probably even more retarded than DS posters if that is possible
By:
George Bailey
When: 01 Jan 13 11:16
Strange days at ESC. Not only have we lost a few of the big players (bosnia and turkey) but now there won't even be a draw for the running order. Will be left to the host country to decide...how I don't know...also first rehearsals closed to the press.
By:
ClayDavis
When: 03 Jan 13 10:56
Are Greece a runner this year? Or being pulled?
By:
ClayDavis
When: 03 Jan 13 23:50
Lena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QSgNM9yNjo  Cool
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