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ShirleyKnot
13 Dec 12 14:47
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The Radio Times popped through the letterbox this morning and I am yet to analyse it but here are Billies ( @Reality_Rob ) prices just put up, one of my favourite markets and one of yours too I am sure.

1/2
EastEnders
4/1
Doctor Who
        
5/1
Downton Abbey
8/1
Coronation Street
        
10/1
The Royle Family Christmas Special
14/1
Call The Midwife
        
25/1
Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
40/1
Emmerdale
        
50/1
Blackadder's Christmas Carol
50/1
Paul O' Grady: For the Love of Dogs @ Christmas
        
66/1
The Choir: A Year with the Military Wives
100/1
50 Years of Bond Cars - A Top Gear Special
        
100/1
Deal or No Deal's Big Christmas Dinner
100/1
You've Been Framed
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Report squares December 21, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
Kat's fella on the side was revealed last night.
Report five leaves left December 21, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
Yep, dirty Derek
Report GeorgeBrush December 21, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
Griffiths? or Jacobi?
Report five leaves left December 21, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
Jacobi ofc

He was excellent in that Last Tango in Halifax. Plus I remember him in I Claudius as a kid.
Report GeorgeBrush December 21, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
Griffiths gets no action these days Cry
Report timbuctooth December 21, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
Would that make Kat at 14/1 or Alfie at 9/1 any value in the `who kills Derek` market?
Report squares December 21, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
Jeremy Edwards and Gemma Biscuits on Pointless Celebs Laugh
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
Derek dies of natural causes Cry
Report five leaves left December 21, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
They never give up squares Laugh

What price is the kid doing DOI? Might be worth trying to get a bet on the double
Report squares December 21, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
Sun article about Max Branning's dark secret being revealed on Crimbo day.  Says actor Jake Wood has been guarding the secret for over a year and had a contract not to tell anyone, even his wife.

Bosses at the Beeb hope their hard-hitting episode — in which Max’s twisted gangster brother Derek (Jamie Foreman) is killed off — will beat Coronation Street in the annual Christmas Day ratings war.

Corrie’s producers are also planning a festive wedding, as former husband and wife Nick Tilsley and Leanne Barlow tie the knot again in a very similar plot.

But Jake believes more viewers will tune in for EastEnders.

He said: “I think our wedding will be better than Leanne and Nick on Corrie.

“I’ll have one eye on the ratings battle. It’d be fab to be number one again.”

Jake has kept Max’s secret under wraps for too long to let the cat out of the bag now. But he teases that the revelations will have major repercussions taking months to resolve.

He said: “It’ll have a huge impact on the whole Branning family. Whether or not they can come together to weather the storm remains to be seen. But it’s going to be a huge moment.”

Only Derek is currently party to Max’s secret. Many fans think Derek will betray his brother — in the most sensational way he can.

Jake said: “This is the biggest storyline I’ve ever had. And these are definitely some of the best episodes I’ve been involved in. Everyone is in for a treat when they’re broadcast.”
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
Max is Joey's dad Shocked
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
EastEnders Alfie Moon Derek BranningThe drama is set to continue in EastEnders after Alfie learned that Derek Branning is Kat’s secret lover (Picture: BBC)

EastEnders enjoyed a leap in viewing figures as Derek Branning was finally revealed as Kat Moon’s secret lover.

According to overnight estimates, around 8.4m viewers tuned in to Thursday night’s episode in which Derek, played by Jamie Foreman, broke the news to Kat’s husband Alfie (Shane Ritchie) in front of a crowded Queen Vic.
Report timbuctooth December 21, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
bearcub 21 Dec 12 17:33 
Max is Joey's dad

and

bearcub 21 Dec 12 17:25 
Derek dies of natural causes


Are these serious?
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
The overnight figures do not include the BBc3 repeat for Eastenders
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
I think the derek dies of natural causes is maybe right, well an educated guess Laugh

Theres pics on the web of people on the Square looking at the body, they all seem pretty calm and no cops about
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 5:57 PM GMT
http://tv.uk.msn.com/soaps/eastenders-spoilers-derek-branning-meets-his-end#image=22

If you look through these images Tim, Derek is at the wedding and then dead in the Square. If he was murdered in broad daylight someone would have seen it so no one in them later pics can be the murderer imo.
Report squares December 21, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
the Daily Hell suggests Max kills his brother Derek after making a grim discovery about his daughter Lauren.

One rumour - Max discovers his brother raped Tanya which resulted in her becoming pregnant with Lauren.

Another - Tanya had a wild affair with Derek.
Report squares December 21, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
perhaps he was mown down by a car.  Who were those geezers who drew alongside him in a car the other day?
Report timbuctooth December 21, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
So, hold the Kat and Alfie bets, then!
Report bearcub December 21, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
I think it was thugs who Max owed money to Squares, but not 100%.
Report cnman December 22, 2012 12:03 AM GMT
always a wildcard in EastEnders murders, so you can rule out Kat/Alfie/Max/Lauren i'm pretty sure. I'm on mad Jean 66/1 with Fred
Report donny osmond December 22, 2012 12:19 AM GMT
Zainab 14/1 at lad brokers can I claim a palp if I get on at that price when she's 100 elsewhere
Report attitude adjuster December 22, 2012 11:50 AM GMT
Roxy Mitchell at 40s for me Happy
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2012 10:57 AM GMT
Eastenders now 1/8 !  Just a word for those tempted... In 2010 it went silly short price and wallace and Gromit(14/1) beat it easily. On 'form' it should win as last year but winning margin was around hald a million votes.. 11.33 million v 10.77 million Doctor Who, and 10.67 million Downton Abbey.

Equivalent to a horse that won by 1/2 a length over 2 rivals being eights on to repeat.. not my sort of bet... Dr Who has probably got a 'too early' slot this year.. but Downton is head to head again.. Strictyly Special has weak opposition and I think the wild card could be 'Call The Midwife' a ratings hit early this year.currently trading around 30 on here..

Ok.. 'Easties' could hold on but it will be close...  1/8  ? No thanks..
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2012 10:59 AM GMT
I beg Call the Midwifes pardon... last price matched   90 !!
Report George Bailey December 24, 2012 11:05 AM GMT
off topic kind of but the best show on so far this year was a 40 year old Morecombe and Wise Christmas Special.  Obvious where Ant and Dec try (and fail) to nick their "act" from.

Think they would have been 1.01 in their day.
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 12:16 PM GMT
Call the midwife for me too atc.

Every woman I talk to mentions it as the show they're looking forward to most.

iirc it's also on about the same time that Wallce & Gromit was on.
Report donny osmond December 24, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
good luck with the midwife

problem for me is they ask the same people year on year

i wonder how accurate the results really are

90 seems a cracking bet Love
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 12:34 PM GMT
I guess the soap fans might record it, so any bookie who is paying out on the final figures might be worth a look too.
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2012 12:51 PM GMT
Cheers chaps, possibly a bet in the 'without eastenders' market, is the insurance, though being up against Coronation Street means another split vote, Wallace & Gromit I think had a soft target and was on at 8.30 but that did not stop the Eastenders lemmings forcing its price down that year too.. This Looks a strong BBC year with early Dr Who, then SCD , Midwife and Eastenders... can hope the audience might be jaded enough by Eastenders to tail off but 9pm is nowadays normally the peak for Christmas day..at least Downton A is a strong factor on ITV.. vso we can hope..
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
I've just looked and W&G was on @ 8.30 ish, as you say and up against midsomer murders Plain
So much tougher opposition for CTM, but worth a punt at around 40.
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
I backed it @ 14's on the HS Cry
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 2:35 PM GMT
If it's on the final barb figures you could be ok bear.

It's being discussed on 5 live now. It's the most watched BBC drama for 10 years, apparently
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 2:51 PM GMT
its figures grew every week fll, quite impressively.

After watching the last few episodes of EE though I think they've done a great job building it up for Xmas day

Main bet has been on SCD getting 9.3 or under.
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 2:52 PM GMT
Yes, EE likely to do beat it.
Had the 4.8 w/o though
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 2:55 PM GMT
I reckon it will beat Corrie and DA.
The BBC have a very strong line-up and stricty maybe the biggest danger.
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 2:55 PM GMT
Though the Xmas special never does great
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
7.5  last year in a later slot against Corrie

Im banking on a good cliffhanger, with Cameron killing Alex in the first Emmerdale, so people watch the second

Tough market though
Report squares December 24, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
who is Alex?
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
No idea. Last time I watched emmerdale was when my Nan was still alive and there was a farm.
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
He works on the farm, Cameron confessed to killing Carl to him

Keep up squares Laugh
Report squares December 24, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
is he the Scouse Lad?
Report squares December 24, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
LOL FLL - back in the days of Annie Sugden and Joe Sugden, Amos Brierley and Mr Wilks.

not that I've ever watched it oc Plain
Report five leaves left December 24, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
Yep, those were the days Grin-

My Nan would never miss it.
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 4:30 PM GMT
Yes Squares, he's currently tied up in the back of Camerons van.Plain
Report squares December 24, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
cheers - last time i caught a glimpse of it i think Cameron was giving evidence in court.
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
Normally SCD special is directly against Corrie , two years ago it beat it, but last year Corrie got more viewers in same slot...  On the face of it this bodes badly for SCD and well for Corrie.

However this year 'Strictly' is up against surely this year's 'XMAS Turkey'in ITVs Paul O'Grady 'For the love of dogs' about Battersea dogs home.. For that reason and a recent successful end to the series, I think SCD may do quite well, and I would probably go over 9.3 million rather than under on that bet with the books.

I also hope that Call the Midwife has the kind of drawing power to hit Coronation Street in the way SCD could not, last year. Its a brave punt as soaps do have a loyal following, but Im hoping its got the 'christmas factor' Certainly at the 90 taken this am and 30 more recently its the value bet.. I now note 'last price matched' at 16.5 so maybe theres a bandwagon rolling..
Report Cider December 24, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
The value oc is opposing EE, at the prevalent prices. I wouldn't completely dismiss SCD it has a better spot than last year, and the main show is stable whereas many figures are falling off yoy. The prices suggest EE will be well clear, I seriously doubt it.
Report timbuctooth December 24, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
I, too, am taking on EE, having backed most of the field at, what I consider to be, huge prices.
Report Henry VIII December 24, 2012 6:10 PM GMT
The ads for EE were very gangsterish. I'm surprised people want to watch that on Xmas day but maybe they do.
Report Cider December 24, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
As above, I'm very keen on CTM. It caused keen interest earlier in the year, in a similar way to DA. However, it is family friendly, on at a decent time, and not too long. The only real negative is CS starts at the same time. But EE has DA.
Report squares December 24, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
The thing in favour of the soaps is that they are easy enough to have on in the background and dip in and out of while other things are going on in a household (and most people will have watched them at some point and have at the very least a vague idea of storylines and who is who) while those other shows are going to take a lot more attentive watching and keeping up with.  I've never seen any of CTM or DA so wouldn't have a clue who any of the people are or what the hell is going on.
Report Cider December 24, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
Yes, the soaps are default viewing. DA of course 'won' last year on reconciled all inclusive figures. Happy to have bbc staples SCD and DW running for me alongside the dark horse CTM. Coronation beat EE comfortably on Friday I don't think the current storyline is capturing the public's imagination. For me EE is more like a 1-2 shot.
Report squares December 24, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
Yeah, sort of carrying on from some of the stuff on the SPOTY thread it's a no brainer with EE really and with anything like that you can almost treat it like you're likely to have done your money from the outset so always a major upside.
Report Cider December 24, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
If CTM absolutely flops then CS could even be in the running for a shock. It looks a real puzzle and I find it difficult to see where the market confidence behind EE is coming from.
Report timbuctooth December 24, 2012 7:32 PM GMT
Me, too. But I've been thinking that for days. It's not as if there's been any new info to drive it so short. We knew last week all that we know now.
Report againstthecrowd December 24, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
Yes, I agree with all you recent posters, the Top Tv is based on a panel of viewers which only happens tomorrow. It is not '****' or known in advance, the collapse in EE price can only be punters seeing it backed & jumping on the 'banker'.

At 1/2 that was probably fair, but nothing has changed since then..I guess its a conundrum with none of the likely competitors having an easy target... (except for SCD but it was surprisingly well beaten by Corrie last year when head to head which dents confidence.)

A close call with EE the likely but by no means certain winner is still the conclusion... Both SCD with its 'soft' opposition and CTM with its novelty/christmas factor give us hope..
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 11:34 PM GMT
Coronation Street achieved its best Friday audience of December so far, overnight data has shown.

Some 8.49m (38.5%) watched Tyrone and Fiz get caught out by Tina in a standalone 7.30pm episode, while a further 329,000 watched on ITV1 +1.

8023: Tyrone and Fiz are caught kissing by Tina


EastEnders came runner-up with 7.68m (33.1%) for a high-profile episode which featured meltdowns for Alfie and Lauren, and Derek's manipulation of Kat.

BBC Three's 10.30pm repeat took 755k (4.1%) before the weekly Omnibus attracted 400k (8.5%) back on BBC One from midnight.

Emmerdale logged 6.99m (32.9%) as viewers realised that Carl King's killer Cameron Murray had taken a confidant captive. The village serial added 173k on ITV1 +1.

terrible figures for a 1.19 favourite...........
Report bearcub December 24, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
To the best of my knowledge, unless things have changed, ITV+1 is added to the figure and BBc3 isnt, so

Corrie  8.82 million  Shocked

Enders  7.68 million

dales   7.17 million
Report squares December 25, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
n1 Bear - Merry Crimbo
Report bearcub December 25, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
Merry Crimbo to you as well Squares

And the rest of you Happy
Report bearcub December 25, 2012 12:43 PM GMT
Derek electrocuted Cry
Report bearcub December 25, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
Christmas eve overnights inc +1

Corrie  8.64 M
enders  8.49 M
Report squares December 25, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
was just looking at those myself
Report bearcub December 25, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
Laddies have suspended and Corals restricted me Sad

I think it's likely to be a lot closer than the odds suggests squares
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:38 AM GMT
EastEnders tops the Christmas Day 2012 ratings with 9.37m.
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:40 AM GMT
Corrie was 8.58 million, which i dont think includes +1
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:41 AM GMT
BBC1 Christmas Day 2012: EastEnders 9.37m; Strictly 7.76m; Royle Family 7.68m; Doctor Who 7.59m; Call the Midwife 7.27m.
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:41 AM GMT
ITV1 Christmas Day 2012: Corrie 8.58m; Downton 6.83m; Emmerdale 5.98/4.7m; Paul o'Grady 4.12m.
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:44 AM GMT
Shrek Forever After was the most watched film with 4.92m, Tangled on ITV1 averaged 2.9
Report five leaves left December 26, 2012 9:47 AM GMT
Crap all round.
EE the winner and Corrie w/o

Christmas Day 2012
BBC One
14:00 - Top of the Pops: 3.88m (26.6%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.27m (36.7%)
15:10 - FILM: Shrek Forever: 4.92m (29.7%)
16:35 - Room with a Broom: 4.70m (25.3%)
17:00 - BBC News: 5.63m (28.8%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 7.59m (33.9%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 7.76m (33.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife: 7.27m (28.3%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 9.37m (34.3%)
21:45 - The Royle Family: 7.68m (30.1%)
22:45 - BBC News: 6.09m (30.3%)
23:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 3.23m (20.8%)

ITV1
13:25 - FILM: Toy Story: 2.00m (14.0%)
15:00 - The Queen: 2.03m (11.9%)
15:10 - FILM: Tangled: 2.90m (17.1%)
17:00 - You've Been Framed!: 3.15m (15.3%)
17:30 - Emmerdale: 4.70m (20.7%) , +1: 232k (1.0%)
* 17:30 to 17:55 - 4.86m (21.4%)
18:00 - Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs: 4.12m (18.2%) , +1: 188k (0.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.98m (24.7%) , +1: 248k (1.0%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.58m (33.5%) , +1: 254k (0.9%)
20:30 - ITV News and Weather: 5.59m (21.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.83m (25.9%) , +1: 488k (2.3%)
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:49 AM GMT
Unders on SCD came in by a distance Happy
Report five leaves left December 26, 2012 9:53 AM GMT
Yes, people just don't watch Christmas TV in the same numbers as a few years back.

We didn't turn the tv on til EE, then watched The Royle Family
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 9:58 AM GMT
Viewing this year peaked at 9.40pm, with 27.7 million watching TV.


Pretty low, i would have thought
Report rue-the- day December 26, 2012 10:08 AM GMT
Hi bearcub, thanks for that report, where did you get these figures ??
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 10:14 AM GMT
@TVRatingsUK  on twitter. Same figures as Five's so should be accurate
Report bearcub December 26, 2012 10:18 AM GMT
EE peaked at 9.77m (35.6%) from 9.35 to 9.40. ITV1's highest peak was 9.09m at 8.05pm during Corrie.
Report Cider December 26, 2012 10:58 AM GMT
Extremely close in percentage terms, presumably so many people recording DA is what won it comfortably for EE. With +1 added CS actually beat EE in percentage of the live audience captured. As it turned out CS was up against stronger competition live on the night.
Well done EE players.
As Fig points out the trend is watching Xmas telly later it seems.
Report five leaves left December 26, 2012 11:23 AM GMT
Call the midwife peaked at around 9m too. I guess just before EE started
Report Henry VIII December 27, 2012 10:23 AM GMT
"Viewing this year peaked at 9.40pm, with 27.7 million watching TV."

A day when the vast majority are together with others and 27.7 million still have to switch the TV on.
Report George Bailey December 27, 2012 6:49 PM GMT
If I didn't turn the telly on the feckers would never leave.
Report squares December 27, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
Cry


BBC comedy show Miranda topped Boxing Day viewing figures with a peak audience of ten million.

The sitcom, created by lead star Miranda Hart, began its third series on BBC1 at 9pm, receiving an average audience of 9.5million - a 37.8% share of the total TV audience between 9pm and 9.30pm.

Unofficial ratings gave the show had a five-minute peak of just over ten million - even beating the 9.4million racked up by EastEnders' explosive Christmas Day episode.

The success is a huge blow for ITV - Simon Cowell's That Dog Can Dance managed an audience high of just 3.7million.
Report squares December 27, 2012 7:23 PM GMT
actually had someone round last night who we thought was a fan of the Miranda show so stuck it on for them.  It was the lamest, most toe-curlingly embarrassing cr@p I had ever sat through (and that was after watching the first half of That Dog Can Dance) and at the end of it they said how cr@p it was and that they didn't usually watch it Devil
Report cnman December 28, 2012 2:02 AM GMT
Miranda is absolutely horrid tv. anyone that likes it is a moron, and unfortunately going by the boxing day figures that means about 1/6th of the population are morons
Report johnnyrant December 28, 2012 9:37 AM GMT
Always amazed to hear the likes of Boyd Hilton raving about Miranda - it is the most rancid, middle-of-the-road, canned laughter, dated, Beeb sit com & was that way from the moment ep1 aired.
Report squares December 30, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
Hopefully some good news:-

Hit BBC show Miranda is set to end once the current series finishes.

A massive 10 million people tuned in to watch the first episode of the third series on Boxing Day but the sitcom’s actor Tom Ellis claims creator Miranda Hart no longer wants to work on the programme.

He told the Daily Mirror: “I don’t think Miranda wants to write any more after this series. It might change, and maybe there might be the odd special, but everyone has other projects.”

from unrtv/The Mirror
Report squares January 3, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
Miranda on Room 101 - ffs, should be in Room 101
Report five leaves left January 3, 2013 6:01 PM GMT
Rumours of another series now Plain
Report squares January 3, 2013 6:21 PM GMT
back by popular demand no doubt Cry
Report squares January 3, 2013 6:22 PM GMT
poker players on Eggheads tonight.  Large one won 94K in a tournament.
Report five leaves left January 3, 2013 7:09 PM GMT
Spent it all on takeaways
Report squares January 3, 2013 7:17 PM GMT
Clemency Burton-Hill looking good on Celeb Mastermind
Report five leaves left January 3, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
Who is she?
Report squares January 3, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
Large poker player Gareth looked like a bigger version of Irish trainer Gordon Elliott who is pretty big.  Wasn't that many years ago he was an amateur jockey.
Report squares January 3, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
never seen her before Celeb Mastermind
Report squares January 3, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
actress, novelist, journalist and violinist apparently
Report five leaves left January 3, 2013 7:25 PM GMT
ofc Plain

I've known fewer celebs on this than your average CBB or IAC
Report squares January 3, 2013 7:26 PM GMT
Steve Punt looks like he's been burning the candle at both ends studying for this.
Report five leaves left December 8, 2013 11:34 AM GMT
This years market is up
Report Cider December 8, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
DA on earlier with an upbeat storyline
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