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five leaves left
24 May 12 18:12
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It could be tough going tonight.

Running Order

1. Serbia
2. Macedonia
3. Netherlands
4. Malta
5. Belarus
6. Portugal
7. Ukraine
8. Bulgaria
9. Slovenia
10. Croatia
11. Sweden
12. Georgia
13. Turkey
14. Estonia
15. Slovakia
16. Norway
17. B&H
18. Lithuania


Good luck JoanLove
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Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:20 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:19PM, George Bailey wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 11:18PM, jaytee1508 wrote:guys do we know when the winners of the semi's are revealed?Macedonia won it...


any ideas on the first leg?

Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:21 PM BST
Yeah Moldova
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:21 PM BST
she didn't say that, the spanish broadcaster said it jokingly
Report mugptr May 24, 2012 11:21 PM BST
Might be wrong gb2 but think it was the interviewer that said that , and said it was a joke ,
Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:22 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:21PM, George Bailey wrote:


Yeah Moldova


somehow doubt that 70/1 and 30/1 cashed

Report Sekt10ned May 24, 2012 11:22 PM BST
honestcl things might look up for you on Sat so long as Sweden doesn't run away with it
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:22 PM BST
ok...BBC played it straight in reporting it then
Report popking May 24, 2012 11:22 PM BST
Hungary were 2nd and Albania 3rd in the first semi, Malta 2nd with Lithuania 3rd tonight.
Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:23 PM BST
where did you find that out popking
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:23 PM BST
Yeah popking. Can't believe the prices still available.
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:24 PM BST
you're not serious popking
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:24 PM BST
Oh Henry feck off Laugh
Report popking May 24, 2012 11:24 PM BST
www.idiotswhothinkresultsareoutnow.com
Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:24 PM BST
i asked when they come out - that's it
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:25 PM BST
Confused i just did't think his guesses were very good
Report popking May 24, 2012 11:25 PM BST
You and about a million others, we were just making light of it.  Results are out saturday after the final (as every year).
Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:25 PM BST
yeah his were about as good as george bailey's
Report jaytee1508 May 24, 2012 11:26 PM BST
sorry popking the eurovision isn't the highlight of my year
Report teodor May 24, 2012 11:26 PM BST
george bailey mentioned it about spain....cause they told pastora not to win cause the crisis is in spain also thats the answer for 42/1 -> 142/1 henry....so our delegation has to take the next flight and come back home as if spain did that.... Laugh
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:26 PM BST
.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18187148#TWEET150210

Doesn't look like a joke to me
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:27 PM BST
Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:27 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:26PM, jaytee1508 wrote:


sorry popking the eurovision isn't the highlight of my year


Don't apologise jay...we were being a bit tvvatty

Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:27 PM BST
Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:28 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:27PM, five leaves left wrote:


Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"


Post her quotes though fll

Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:28 PM BST
See the word joked GB2?
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:28 PM BST
what part of that sentence don't you understand george?
Report popking May 24, 2012 11:28 PM BST
Yeah, Jay it's fine.  It was just amusing for us - a few posters turned up on Tuesday all asking the same, and a few already tonight.  No hard feelings mate.
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:28 PM BST
We have no idea of the context
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:29 PM BST
A translation of an interview. The key word is joked
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:29 PM BST
"I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public, to win Eurovision," Soler was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.

The Spanish government has slashed spending in public television, resulting in the cancellation of several popular programmes.
Report Helmuthian Folds May 24, 2012 11:29 PM BST
Well i'm still topping up on Spain, great draw for her coming after that Turkish nonsense!
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:29 PM BST
What part of her quote don't you understand Henry?
Report bexley May 24, 2012 11:29 PM BST
Spain draw works very well for me - great actually
Report teodor May 24, 2012 11:30 PM BST
im not joking george i just confirm your prices comment about spain...cause i also heard it today.....besides we totally agree in sweden win.....Cool
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:30 PM BST
ok GB2, 1st I've seen of that quote. It wasn't in the previous piece
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:30 PM BST
Hi teodor...keep the faith Wink
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:31 PM BST
Probably explains drift fll
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:33 PM BST
2.28 and I have a a list of 10 reasons why she might not win...still with my green who is complaining?
Report TennisMan66 May 24, 2012 11:34 PM BST
Have we ever had an odds-on jolly for this comp? Had Sweden drawn 24 or 25....
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:34 PM BST
Rybak??
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:35 PM BST
17 has won most often Tennis. A good omen?
Report HGsuperhoopza May 24, 2012 11:35 PM BST
Spain top 5 cracking bet, changed my mind on Italy now.
Report popking May 24, 2012 11:35 PM BST
Drip Drop traded at evens before it drew 1 I think?
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:35 PM BST
The actual AFP article.

Spanish public television directors urged the country's Eurovision Song Contest entry not to win this weekend's event because they would not be able to afford to stage it next year if she did.

Under the rules of the contest, the public broadcaster of the nation that wins the event plays host to the competition the following year.

Pastora Soler, who will represent Spain on Saturday in Baku with her ballad "Quedate Conmigo" ("Stay With Me"), said that when she met directors from broadcaster TVE, they joked: "Please, don't win!"

"I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public to win Eurovision. If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition because it costs so much money," she told ABC Punto Radio.

Spain's conservative government has slashed spending and raised taxes to reduce the nation's public deficit to within a European Union limit of 3.0 percent of gross domestic product in 2013 from 8.9 percent last year.

The spending cuts have affected all areas, including public television TV which has been forced to cancel several popular television shows as a result.

The winner of the Eurovision contest -- which began in 1956 as an elegant black-tie event -- is selected by a jury and online and telephone votes from viewers.

Mocked for its "bubblegum pop" and overtly political voting, the contest has been won twice by Spain, in 1968 with singer Massiel's song "La La La" and again the following year with singer Salome's "Vivo Cantando".

The event boasts a television audience estimated at around 125 million people each year
Report jack12321 May 24, 2012 11:35 PM BST
Can only see sweden, serbia or spain with a hint of a chance now, maybe germany at a push

Can't help but feel its all over and sweden  will walk it, praying for a miracle
Report MilanBarosh May 24, 2012 11:36 PM BST
Sweden have a fight on with Ukraine belting out that anthem from 25 imo.
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:36 PM BST
It could lead to a sympathy vote for her.
Report TennisMan66 May 24, 2012 11:36 PM BST
I was a genuine question, new to punting on this so not sure. What price did Rybak go off?
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:36 PM BST
Putting her people above a singing contest
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:36 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:36PM, five leaves left wrote:


It could lead to a sympathy vote for her.


Not by the juries

Report HGsuperhoopza May 24, 2012 11:37 PM BST
Its one of the best songs, and the best singer in the competition, the juries will love it.
Report seanvice May 24, 2012 11:37 PM BST
Gl on Spain figgy, its growing on me. Must be quite happy with the draw around her?

Ukraine would have been completely lost from early but the staging is brilliant, its a fun song and it may go well from 25.
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:38 PM BST
main reason I think she WILL win is that however marmite she is with 25 runners this ain't a vote to evict.
Report honestcl May 24, 2012 11:39 PM BST
Rybak was 2.1 most of the day of the Final. soon crashed to under 1.5 within 5 or 6 sets of scores in and it was over in a flash!
Report mugptr May 24, 2012 11:39 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:35PM, jack12321 wrote:


Can only see sweden, serbia or spain with a hint of a chance now, maybe germany at a pushCan't help but feel its all over and sweden  will walk it, praying for a miracle


Agree jack , but feel sweeden chances gone out slightly irrespective of odds and Serbia come in , Spain's odds are mad and Germany a outsiders chance, think Iceland are too big now and would not dismiss norway still

Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:39 PM BST
depends whether she continues to say it GB2, or whether she goes back on what was said on some spanish radio station.
The spanish press conference will be worth listening too.
I'd bet she'll go back on whatever she may have said
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:39 PM BST

May 24, 2012 -- 5:37PM, HGsuperhoopza wrote:


Its one of the best songs, and the best singer in the competition, the juries will love it.


If the juries voted BEFORE the quote then the sympathy vote with the public might be right

Report MilanBarosh May 24, 2012 11:40 PM BST
"it may go well from 25."...you got a typo there sean, you obviously meant to type "will" and not "may" Laugh
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:40 PM BST
When do/did the juries vote on the B5 fll?
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:41 PM BST
Cheers sean.
I love the draw.
Serbia a very different ballad on after it, but none of the big ballads
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:41 PM BST
Might be a masterstroke by Spain WinkLaugh
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:41 PM BST
They vote on tomorrows rehearsal
Report MilanBarosh May 24, 2012 11:42 PM BST
why people fancy Serbia ?...it will get little from the wes,t where as Ukraine will get plenty imo.
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:43 PM BST
ah..not good...but voted yesterday for the others??
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:43 PM BST
I thought I read
Report HGsuperhoopza May 24, 2012 11:43 PM BST
Its better than freaking Jedward. I'm taking as much 9/2 for top 5 as I can get.
Report TennisMan66 May 24, 2012 11:43 PM BST
If Spain didn't want to win they wouldn't have chosen 19. I hope Pastora retracts the statement though.
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:44 PM BST
Spain, press conference 16.20 - 16.40h tomorrow
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:44 PM BST
Economy a lot worse now
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:45 PM BST
all of europe is up the swanny.
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:45 PM BST
as if she'd say that with a straight face. i doubt she said it at all. but anyway even though i like spain i've never got all the fuss about it.
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:46 PM BST
She's sure to be asked about it. Let's see what she says. If she repeats it then it would be damaging.
I expect she'll 'clarify' what she said
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:47 PM BST
ESC ought to do what football has done these last 20 years and go commercial. there would be loads of sponsors gagging at 125 million viewers
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:47 PM BST
...last 30 years i guess
Report the swede May 24, 2012 11:48 PM BST
Rybak drifted to around 2,50 before spain as first country gave him 12. I swept the market down to 1,80
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:48 PM BST
what do you think of loreen's odds the swede?
Report HGsuperhoopza May 24, 2012 11:48 PM BST
Does to an extent, plenty of ad breaks we don't see with the BBC, which the networks broadcasting it must profit from.
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:49 PM BST
they should make all contestants wear advertising
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:49 PM BST
showing solidarity with the plight of people in spain and other parts of europe, likely to win her votes all round.
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2012 11:50 PM BST
i don't think so figgy. if she really does go on about how spain can't win - a lot won't vote for her
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:50 PM BST
juries will be affected by it I'm sure.
Report five leaves left May 24, 2012 11:51 PM BST
oh, if she clearly says don't vote for us, then yes Henry. I very much doubt she will say that.
Report George Bailey May 24, 2012 11:54 PM BST
Been backing the others (non sweden) here and there to green up and now they are all almost twice the price. Should have just sat tight.
Report TennisMan66 May 25, 2012 12:01 AM BST
Should be worried that Bwin are the biggest price Spain? Do they know? Just playing devil's advocate.
Report five leaves left May 25, 2012 12:04 AM BST
Bwin pretty clueless TM66.

They were biggest on some great bets last year. Especially H2H and semi prices.
Report HGsuperhoopza May 25, 2012 12:04 AM BST
George, obvious that when people here the Swedish song they'd love it and back it, probably the first time half the new backers have heard it. I still love it, have it on repeat.
Report TennisMan66 May 25, 2012 12:05 AM BST
Well they are a Spanish bookie FFL - I'd be surprised if Boyles or Paddies went best price on Jedward.
Report five leaves left May 25, 2012 12:09 AM BST
Fair enough TM
I still think their specials compiler is poor.
Report Helmuthian Folds May 25, 2012 12:13 AM BST
Easy to be top price a lot of the bigger prices when you are win only TM2
Report Henry VIII May 25, 2012 12:22 AM BST
....and you only allow 57p bets.
Report timbucktooth May 25, 2012 12:27 AM BST
Bwin are Austrian
Report honestcl May 25, 2012 8:24 AM BST
the swede
Rybak drifted to around 2,50 before spain as first country gave him 12. I swept the market down to 1,80

_________

Good point about teh drift.  It happened as the voting began as at the same there was an enormous plunge on Azer (eventually came 3rd) and like a fool I was one who thought people 'knew' stuff and bailed out a healthy green on Norway and left myself with pennies.

In fact every final I make money on the winner but always a paltry amount.  I always seem to doubt my judgment and bail on the good'uns! 

Won't happen this year when France, Ukraine and Norway make the Top 3!  Excited
Report hemsby May 25, 2012 9:05 AM BST
Bl00dy hell,that was a tough slog getting through that lot ...at least I had the benefit of the fast forward button this morning Happy
Anyone who voted for Lithuania needs to be humanely put down.I think Carmen Miranda representing Ukraine must have a chance of a Top 4 finish after getting a great draw.The Turkish entry looks like a Sacha Baron Cohen spoof,and I've just remembered who the Icelandic singer reminded me of...Michael Carrick.
Report bexley May 25, 2012 9:08 AM BST
Greta looks nothing like Michael Carrick Laugh
Report stu May 25, 2012 9:39 AM BST
Won't happen this year when France, Ukraine and Norway make the Top 3!

Still confident for Norway, honest? Could have done with slightly better draw, but there will at least be a HUGE contrast with the song that goes before it, so it will stand out.
Report bexley May 25, 2012 9:49 AM BST
Norway top 10 at 2.6 on here seems good value to me . Won't quite call it buying money but still. Gutted actually I'm convinced he would have won the whole thing with a good draw and that he probably won the semi which would be a nice consolation.
Report stu May 25, 2012 9:50 AM BST
Yep top 10 looks good for Norway.
Report stu May 25, 2012 9:51 AM BST
You think he beat Sweden and Serbia Bex?
Report bexley May 25, 2012 9:51 AM BST
yes
Report stu May 25, 2012 9:52 AM BST
Have a small bet on top3 so hope so!
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