popking - because apart from the strong support for Johnson from the grans and those connected to the armed forces, I believe the vote is very fluid. Even someone not particularly likeable like that Rachel in XF went from bottom to top in one week. Laura is actually rather likeable and was ramped to the heavens.
popking - because apart from the strong support for Johnson from the grans and those connected to the armed forces, I believe the vote is very fluid.Even someone not particularly likeable like that Rachel in XF went from bottom to top in one week.Lau
Lol at how opinions change so quickly on this show. Last week Sam gets praised and is hammered back into well odds on. People on here saying Laura should be a million to one to win. Bit of a role reversal this week huh? I find it very amusing
Lol at how opinions change so quickly on this show. Last week Sam gets praised and is hammered back into well odds on. People on here saying Laura should be a million to one to win. Bit of a role reversal this week huh?I find it very amusing
I don't credit voters with too much intelligence, always a good default position, so I put Chloe in some trouble of b2. Laura grabbing a lot of her vote, plus people thinking that she's safe.
I don't credit voters with too much intelligence, always a good default position, so I put Chloe in some trouble of b2. Laura grabbing a lot of her vote, plus people thinking that she's safe.
Laura - 6+5 = 11 Jeff - 5+2 = 7 Denise - 4+4 = 8 Chloe - 3+3 = 6 Sam - 2+1 = 3 Johnson - 1+6 = 7
Sam vs Chloe skate off
Sam may beat Jeff's pv which would lead to a Sam vs Jeff skate off. Denise would have to fall to 2nd bottom on the pv to find herself in trouble
Sam + 1 for me, and that 1 most likely to be Chloe. After her, Jeff. After him Denise. After her Johnson
I'd be thinking something like this:Laura - 6+5 = 11Jeff - 5+2 = 7Denise - 4+4 = 8Chloe - 3+3 = 6Sam - 2+1 = 3Johnson - 1+6 = 7Sam vs Chloe skate offSam may beat Jeff's pv which would lead to a Sam vs Jeff skate off.Denise would have to fall to 2nd b
With the exception of Laura, I think this elimination is wide open. May as well bet on a flip of a coin.
Didn't you say a page back or so Danzaa that Johnson was a complete cert?
With the exception of Laura, I think this elimination is wide open. May as well bet on a flip of a coin. Didn't you say a page back or so Danzaa that Johnson was a complete cert?
By: squares Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 Add contact When: 06 Mar 11 19:42 not a dry eye in the Pakey house
Very true squares, I did find it all quite emotional.
As they have dumped JBVC to bottom, I'm now hoping that Laura and Jeff poll well, in order to take the higher points available. (obviously not as high as Magic though)
Chloe and Sam bottom two would be perfect
By: squares Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 Add contact When: 06 Mar 11 19:42 not a dry eye in the Pakey houseVery true squares, I did find it all quite emotional.As they have dumped JBVC to bottom, I'm now hoping that Laura and Jeff poll well, in order to ta
Bexley, if I had to place a bet, I'd go for Johnson. I think this is the one and only way that the judges are gonna get him out if the Star thing is true (which I don't necessarily believe). He can not win, even if he gets to the Top 3, it will devalue the 'it's about skating' element of the show.
Bexley, if I had to place a bet, I'd go for Johnson. I think this is the one and only way that the judges are gonna get him out if the Star thing is true (which I don't necessarily believe). He can not win, even if he gets to the Top 3, it will deval
Agre that this is their chance to get rid of Magic though, but disagree that it gets harder the further he goes. I am utterly convinced he would gain the momentum of the public vote if he made it to the final three.
Agre that this is their chance to get rid of Magic though, but disagree that it gets harder the further he goes.I am utterly convinced he would gain the momentum of the public vote if he made it to the final three.
Right I havnt heard any of these reports from the star saying johnsons been topping the votes.. But Jesus Christ.. Anyone who believes it needs their head testing. Can't believe the odds on him to be bottom two.. Absolute cert!! Unbelievable price
Right I havnt heard any of these reports from the star sayingjohnsons been topping the votes.. But Jesus Christ.. Anyonewho believes it needs their head testing. Can't believe the oddson him to be bottom two.. Absolute cert!! Unbelievable price
At the end of the day, with Reality TV, 99% of the time, merit will eventually shine through. We're now getting rid of the Widdecombe-esque contestants for the final push.
At the end of the day, with Reality TV, 99% of the time, merit will eventually shine through. We're now getting rid of the Widdecombe-esque contestants for the final push.
Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D
Most of u people have won money on the elimination markets laying Johnson or taking value on othere for weeks. Someone like yourself who flits in to express an opinion this week after the fact is just fishing or an attention seeker or a moron or all 3 imo
Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D Most of u people have won money on the elimination markets laying Johnson or taking value on othere for weeks. Someone like yourself who flits in to
It'll make next week's betting much easier if Johnson goes tonight. The army-lovers will be out in force if he stays. Will make the market less predictable.
It'll make next week's betting much easier if Johnson goes tonight. The army-lovers will be out in force if he stays. Will make the market less predictable.
I don't go by the Star or anybody else, I tend to go by my own judgement. My judgement is that he is the kind of guy who would rate highly in a popularity contest for skaters, obviously deramping by the panel does not help his case.
I don't go by the Star or anybody else, I tend to go by my own judgement. My judgement is that he is the kind of guy who would rate highly in a popularity contest for skaters, obviously deramping by the panel does not help his case.
Could be their best chance to get rid of Johnson tonight, wonder if they'll take it considering he scored a good few points higher than Denise in the original skate...
Could be their best chance to get rid of Johnson tonight, wonder if they'll take it considering he scored a good few points higher than Denise in the original skate...
Yeah normal service resumed. "best" skaters in final.
Schofield was like the cat who got the cream just before announcing Sam safe TPTB get what they wanted last week.
Yeah normal service resumed. "best" skaters in final.Schofield was like the cat who got the cream just before announcing Sam safe TPTB get what they wanted last week.
well denise should stay over johnson really, as tio who has been the better skater throughout the series
both are crap, but denise is marginally better!
BUT will they just save him for sympathy etc?
well denise should stay over johnson really, as tio who has been the better skater throughout the seriesboth are crap, but denise is marginally better!BUT will they just save him for sympathy etc?
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2, and offered on Chloe to be eliminated and bottom 2. I don't believe it was some reality tv betting guru who has knowledge of these markets on a level beyond 99% of the regulars on here. As for people who suddenly pop up on these threads and claim it was all completely obvious really are taking the p*ss.
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2, and offered on Chloe to be eliminated and bottom 2. I don't believe it was some reality tv betting guru who has knowledge of these markets on a level beyond 99% of the regulars on h
If Johnson is doing well in the public vote, then Sam must have outpolled him and therefore been top. Chloe must have been one below Johnson or she'd have gone out. Jeff also must have outpolled Denise which is very odd considering their bottom 2.
So, if Johnson has been polling well and given the Star's reliability it would seem so, the order probably was:
Sam Johnson Chloe Jeff Denise
With Laura slotted in anywhere except between Johnson and Chloe.
If Johnson is doing well in the public vote, then Sam must have outpolled him and therefore been top. Chloe must have been one below Johnson or she'd have gone out. Jeff also must have outpolled Denise which is very odd considering their bottom 2.So,
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2
That was mostly me jr. I was convinced he'd be top 3 in the vote. Was less convinced when he was left to the last 3
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2That was mostly me jr. I was convinced he'd be top 3 in the vote.Was less convinced when he was left to the last 3
No charlie his bubble has burst. One of top two scoring skaters always wins this and I resisted the johnson bandwagon for a long time but my book still ok...unless jeff pulls of the win.
No charlie his bubble has burst. One of top two scoring skaters always wins this and I resisted the johnson bandwagon for a long time but my book still ok...unless jeff pulls of the win.
yeah, but it was when Sam was 4-1 or bigger, and huge amounts fll - that seemed very odd to me, unless that was you as well, in which case, well done. 2-1 was also offered Chloe bottom 2, and her price stayed at 8-1 for elimination which also seemed too big given the likely scoring scenarios.
yeah, but it was when Sam was 4-1 or bigger, and huge amounts fll - that seemed very odd to me, unless that was you as well, in which case, well done.2-1 was also offered Chloe bottom 2, and her price stayed at 8-1 for elimination which also seemed t
JBVC not surprising at all really. Discussed at length on main fred. Denise vote completely collapsing is more surprising, but she was never a backable price until skate-off in my opinion.
JBVC not surprising at all really. Discussed at length on main fred. Denise vote completely collapsing is more surprising, but she was never a backable price until skate-off in my opinion.
Agree about the strange market moves tonight and last week Johnny 2/1 chloe bottom 2 consistently laid looked a bit suspect to me and plenty wanting to back johnson bottom 2 at 2.5ish. Maybe Im just reading events wrong but I never saw tonight coming at all.
Agree about the strange market moves tonight and last week Johnny 2/1 chloe bottom 2 consistently laid looked a bit suspect to me and plenty wanting to back johnson bottom 2 at 2.5ish. Maybe Im just reading events wrong but I never saw tonight coming
..although I'mta lking about after the scores were known jr. I was laying between 2 and 2.5 for as much as I could. Which wasn't much tbh. You might be talking about bigger prices before that.
..although I'mta lking about after the scores were known jr.I was laying between 2 and 2.5 for as much as I could. Which wasn't much tbh.You might be talking about bigger prices before that.
By: squares Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 | Topic/replies: 24,113 | Blogger: So, which bloke goes next week then? Does Johnson get a bounce / pick up some of Denise votes?
As he is now the sole underdog, I would expect him to pick up a fair percentage of her vote, and a bounce squares.
map not a clue squares, id guess Johnson fav 4/5 ish? based on the fact he's now the one seperate from the pack kinda I would have him as an outsider to go for exactly the same reasons map.
night guys be lucky
By: squares Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 | Topic/replies: 24,113 | Blogger: So, which bloke goes next week then?Does Johnson get a bounce / pick up some of Denise votes? As he is now the sole underdog, I would expect him to pick up a fair percentage of her
I just suspect it was the market being slow to latch onto the possibility of Sam being B2 on the leaderboard, before the pv.
If I had to have a guess at the vote I'd go -
Laura Sam Johnson Chloe Jeff Denise.
oh right jrThe 4-1 wasn't me.I just suspect it was the market being slow to latch onto the possibility of Sam being B2 on the leaderboard, before the pv.If I had to have a guess at the vote I'd go -LauraSamJohnsonChloeJeffDenise.
squares what did you mean earlier when you said I'd get banned?!
yea well done winnersI lost everything except my over bet LOLhad chloe /jeff / johnson all at good pricessquares what did you mean earlier when you said I'd get banned?!
Can't see a bounce for johnson. Do marmites get bounces? Think he's become a marmite in the sense that the tipping point in the public consciousness has been reached where there is a general feeling that better skaters are getting voted out.
Lots of good brains on here thought that this would be the best chance ever for a popular non skater to win. Fill your boots for ever now laying this type of character in all such contests in years to come.
Can't see a bounce for johnson. Do marmites get bounces? Think he's become a marmite in the sense that the tipping point in the public consciousness has been reached where there is a general feeling that better skaters are getting voted out.Lots of g
bit of an over reaction there GB2, cant see how he wont get a big bounce and nothing to suggest he wasnt in top3 of pv tonight that will be enough to save him next week
bit of an over reaction there GB2, cant see how he wont get a big bounceand nothing to suggest he wasnt in top3 of pv tonightthat will be enough to save him next week
I Win All The Tim Joined: 29 Jun 09 Replies: 2181 06 Mar 11 21:49
Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D
I believe the star story was correct and he led for 7 of the 1st 9 weeks. If he you want to lay evens on it I'll have as much as you'll lay
I Win All The Tim Joined: 29 Jun 09Replies: 2181 06 Mar 11 21:49 Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D I believe the star story was correct and he led for 7 of the 1st 9 weeks.If he y
I think Denise's aggressive husband did her in tonight. And Johnson's floating voters may have been lulled into a false sense of security by the gushing praise he got from the judges (maybe a production decision to kill with kindness).
I think Denise's aggressive husband did her in tonight. And Johnson's floating voters may have been lulled into a false sense of security by the gushing praise he got from the judges (maybe a production decision to kill with kindness).
JBVC was bottom. I can't see his supporters being feeling secure in those circumstances.
As for Denise, they did a Nolan on her. Her vt made out it was all geting too much for her.
JBVC was bottom. I can't see his supporters being feeling secure in those circumstances.As for Denise, they did a Nolan on her. Her vt made out it was all geting too much for her.
It's then down to which one of Laura or Chloe can get through to the final 2. Which ever one does wins imo. and that's a coin toss.
-being*I see it as Chloe, Laura, Sam final 3 now.Jeff goes next week. JBVC the week after.It's then down to which one of Laura or Chloe can get through to the final 2.Which ever one does wins imo. and that's a coin toss.
Figgy, imo chloe wins in that scenario bigger journey/improvement than Sam, more likeable than laura problem for chloe is when not if judges revert back to scoring sam highest as chloe was overmarked and if as I suspect the Johnson PR train gathers momentum she could find herself in the next 2 skate offs v jeff then laura. Sam and Chloe more popular than laura so when it comes to PV they beat her every time.
For me the best bet is still to lay Laura o/r as she cannot win (if she does my book suffers big time) the nb is Jeff to go next week Of course there could be another twist and Johnson's ex forces buddies could storm the stage, gag and electrocute one of the judges. Then again they could leave that til the 'flying' week when JBvc abseils down covered in camouflage, drops a smoke bomb and takes Jason hostage. The latter gets him knighted imo however the synchnocricity of the whole thing along with a weak core and poor lines may see him booted off by other judges.
Figgy, imo chloe wins in that scenariobigger journey/improvement than Sam, more likeable than lauraproblem for chloe is when not if judges revert back to scoring sam highestas chloe was overmarked and if as I suspect the Johnson PR train gathers mome
I'm afraid your book is going to "suffer big time" aj unless you become a Laura backer.
Sam and Chloe more popular than laura so when it comes to PV they beat her every time.
These things aren't fixed in stone, as the slump in Johnson's PV yesterday showed (and as past voting on all these competitions shows us). Both Chloe and Laura have lovely personalities but GBP are fair and make the winner the one who wows them the most - mixture of: technical skill; romance; excitement.
Laura wins. Having watched all their dances many times I think that Chloe is not as good as the judges' 2 weeks of ramping have suggested.
I'm afraid your book is going to "suffer big time" aj unless you become a Laura backer.Sam and Chloe more popular than laura so when it comes to PV they beat her every time.These things aren't fixed in stone, as the slump in Johnson's PV yesterday sh
Yes it may not have been much of a slump. He may have still been 3rd in the PV but I don't know of any likely combination that would have had him as 2nd.
Yes it may not have been much of a slump. He may have still been 3rd in the PV but I don't know of any likely combination that would have had him as 2nd.