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johnnyrant
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Gonna be an interesting one tonight. Good luck all.
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Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
popking - because apart from the strong support for Johnson from the grans and those connected to the armed forces, I believe the vote is very fluid.
Even someone not particularly likeable like that Rachel in XF went from bottom to top in one week.
Laura is actually rather likeable and was ramped to the heavens.
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
Lol at how opinions change so quickly on this show. Last week Sam gets praised and is hammered back into well odds on. People on here saying Laura should be a million to one to win. Bit of a role reversal this week huh?
I find it very amusingLaugh
Report Cider March 6, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
I don't credit voters with too much intelligence, always a good default position, so I put Chloe in some trouble of b2. Laura grabbing a lot of her vote, plus people thinking that she's safe.
Report popking March 6, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
See Bonnie, Zaraah, Jess, Zoe etc. for evidence it hasn't really happened on DOI.
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:05 PM GMT
Jess went from tiny %'s to top after a massive ramp in the semi final.
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:07 PM GMT
Im happy with both my Chloe positions. Massive green overall, massive green for elimination. B2 and no elimination as a few suspect, not so hot [;)]
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
although the Jeff elimination hopefully may cover my ass then....
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
I'd be thinking something like this:

Laura - 6+5 = 11
Jeff - 5+2 = 7
Denise - 4+4 = 8
Chloe - 3+3 = 6
Sam - 2+1 = 3
Johnson - 1+6 = 7

Sam vs Chloe skate off

Sam may beat Jeff's pv which would lead to a Sam vs Jeff skate off.
Denise would have to fall to 2nd bottom on the pv to find herself in trouble

Sam + 1 for me, and that 1 most likely to be Chloe. After her, Jeff. After him Denise. After her Johnson
Report Cider March 6, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
I like that scenario, jr !
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
Yeah I see sam value for b2 as difficult to see where his vote will come from unless him facing chop is wake up call.
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
If Sam is bottom of the pv I'll eat Jason's hat.
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
Sam v Jeff my best scenario, Sam v Chloe next best

Sam not B2 = bexley not a happy bunnyCry
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
I'd be happy with sam v chloe tho :)
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
I got 2p matched sam v jeff at 8.2 Cool
Report popking March 6, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
I think Sam VS Chloe or one of them vs Jeff for sure.
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
Sam vs Chloe skate off and Jason and Emma save Chloe on performance. Could happen
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
He could be 3rd bottom fll and still be toast
Report icydickydockydo March 6, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
So Johnson will win the public vote emmmmmmmm
Report ajchrisbro March 6, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
with sam being 2nd bottom on JL johnson doesnt need to win PV
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 9:24 PM GMT
Someone seems convinced Chloe is not bottom 2 Confused
Report The real Moaner March 6, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
Sam too large at 20+?

Or Can Chloe outpoll Denise?
Report Danzaa March 6, 2011 9:30 PM GMT
With the exception of Laura, I think this elimination is wide open. May as well bet on a flip of a coin.
Report The real Moaner March 6, 2011 9:30 PM GMT
Why do they suspend so early?
Report Benjy March 6, 2011 9:31 PM GMT
Why suspend now Laugh I'm unfinished.
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
With the exception of Laura, I think this elimination is wide open. May as well bet on a flip of a coin.

Didn't you say a page back or so Danzaa that Johnson was a complete cert?
Report squares March 6, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
sounds familiar
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
By: squares
Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 Add contact When: 06 Mar 11 19:42 not a dry eye in the Pakey house


Very true squares, I did find it all quite emotional.

As they have dumped JBVC to bottom, I'm now hoping that Laura and Jeff poll well, in order to take the higher points available. (obviously not as high as Magic though)

Chloe and Sam bottom two would be perfect
Report ajchrisbro March 6, 2011 9:33 PM GMT
Id feckin wet myself if laura was in B2 tho
Report map March 6, 2011 9:35 PM GMT
looks like could be sam v chloe then

laura seems so unlikely after scoring top + having that score doubled, should see her safe

chloe is my best result
Report Danzaa March 6, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
Bexley, if I had to place a bet, I'd go for Johnson. I think this is the one and only way that the judges are gonna get him out if the Star thing is true (which I don't necessarily believe). He can not win, even if he gets to the Top 3, it will devalue the 'it's about skating' element of the show.
Report popking March 6, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
Johnson only has to beat Sam and Chloe.  There's strong evidence he has been hammering them so I don't see why this week would be different.
Report J.O.TOBIN. March 6, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
Sam versus Chloe seems most popular choice must admit it looks most likely to me.
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:39 PM GMT
It is actually about all round performance and improvement Danzaa, that is why ringers tend not to do well, unless they are very popular/likeable.
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
Agre that this is their chance to get rid of Magic though, but disagree that it gets harder the further he goes.
I am utterly convinced he would gain the momentum of the public vote if he made it to the final three.
Report Cider March 6, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
Jason been on the forum Cool
Report I Win All The Tim March 6, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
Right I havnt heard any of these reports from the star saying
johnsons been topping the votes.. But Jesus Christ.. Anyone
who believes it needs their head testing. Can't believe the odds
on him to be bottom two.. Absolute cert!! Unbelievable price
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:46 PM GMT
Nice Emma, so Johnson did not improve this week then.
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
good call guys
Report The real Moaner March 6, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
Johnson gone?
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
wtf
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
or not Grin
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:48 PM GMT
ROFL disaster
Report The real Moaner March 6, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
Sam beat Johnson in the public vote?!
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
Duffers vote collapse as often happens after a good skater goes.

The Ice Man's revenge
Report I Win All The Tim March 6, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
As women tend to vote for women, the two females on the panel should save Denise.

Hope Denise's hubby did enough to p1ss jason off.
Report Danzaa March 6, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
^ What he said.
Report Danzaa March 6, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
At the end of the day, with Reality TV, 99% of the time, merit will eventually shine through. We're now getting rid of the Widdecombe-esque contestants for the final push.
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
We believe that he may have been IWATT, obviously not this week though.
Report bexley March 6, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D

Most of u people have won money on the elimination markets laying Johnson or taking value on othere for weeks. Someone like yourself who flits in to express an opinion this week  after the fact is just fishing or an attention seeker or a moron or all 3 imoLaugh
Report map March 6, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
*** worst result for me

is it worth laying denise?
Report I Win All The Tim March 6, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
Pakey.. Is this the same star newspaper source that had Wagner topping the votes every week?
Report Danzaa March 6, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
It'll make next week's betting much easier if Johnson goes tonight. The army-lovers will be out in force if he stays. Will make the market less predictable.
Report squares March 6, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
The Star never had Wagner topping the votes.

Nor Jedward.

That was THE SUN
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
I don't go by the Star or anybody else, I tend to go by my own judgement. My judgement is that he is the kind of guy who would rate highly in a popularity contest for skaters, obviously deramping by the panel does not help his case.
Report J.O.TOBIN. March 6, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
Complete disaster for me tonight think I got every conceivable bet wrong back to the drawing board for meSad
Report I Win All The Tim March 6, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
Bexley I wrote tht I laid Johnson 5mins before it was announced. I said it was a
mad price BEFORE he was called in the bottom two..
Report Pedz March 6, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
Could be their best chance to get rid of Johnson tonight, wonder if they'll take it considering he scored a good few points higher than Denise in the original skate...
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
Yeah normal service resumed.  "best" skaters in final.


Schofield was like the cat who got the cream just before announcing Sam safe TPTB get what they wanted last week.
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 9:57 PM GMT
not the only one JOT - an absolute shocker
Report map March 6, 2011 9:57 PM GMT
well  denise should stay over johnson really, as tio who has been the better skater throughout the series

both are crap, but denise is marginally better!

BUT will they just save him for sympathy etc?
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
The most amazing thing is Brazier still being there.

His never ending campaign to get himself in the top 3 appears to be working.

What a ****
Report charliebigpotatoes March 6, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
I have to say. I would be shocked if they save Denise. I'm guessing 3-0 JBVC saving.
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
Beautiful Johnson, it will be a travesty if they vote you out mate
Report map March 6, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
yea il be shocked too mate but should be denise saved really
Report charliebigpotatoes March 6, 2011 10:01 PM GMT
3-0 as expected. They love JBVC. He's here for a while yet.
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 10:02 PM GMT
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2, and offered on Chloe to be eliminated and bottom 2. I don't believe it was some reality tv betting guru who has knowledge of these markets on a level beyond 99% of the regulars on here.
As for people who suddenly pop up on these threads and claim it was all completely obvious really are taking the p*ss.
Report The real Moaner March 6, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
If Johnson is doing well in the public vote, then Sam must have outpolled him and therefore been top. Chloe must have been one below Johnson or she'd have gone out. Jeff also must have outpolled Denise which is very odd considering their bottom 2.

So, if Johnson has been polling well and given the Star's reliability it would seem so, the order probably was:

Sam
Johnson
Chloe
Jeff
Denise

With Laura slotted in anywhere except between Johnson and Chloe.
Report squares March 6, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
yup
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
The clue was the big prices continually dangled on Sam for bottom 2

That was mostly me jr. I was convinced he'd be top 3 in the vote.
Was less convinced when he was left to the last 3 Shocked
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
No charlie his bubble has burst.  One of top two scoring skaters always wins this and I resisted the johnson bandwagon for a long time but my book still ok...unless jeff pulls of the win.
Report squares March 6, 2011 10:06 PM GMT
So, which bloke goes next week then?

Does Johnson get a bounce / pick up some of Denise votes?
Report map March 6, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
not a clue squares, id guess Johnson fav 4/5 ish? based on the fact he's now the one seperate from the pack kinda
Report squares March 6, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
Sam obv had a good pv tonight, and looked in danger being left until late.
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 10:08 PM GMT
yeah, but it was when Sam was 4-1 or bigger, and huge amounts fll - that seemed very odd to me, unless that was you as well, in which case, well done.
2-1 was also offered Chloe bottom 2, and her price stayed at 8-1 for elimination which also seemed too big given the likely scoring scenarios.
Report Cider March 6, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
JBVC not surprising at all really. Discussed at length on main fred. Denise vote completely collapsing is more surprising, but she was never a backable price until skate-off in my opinion.
Report J.O.TOBIN. March 6, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
Agree about the strange market moves tonight and last week Johnny 2/1 chloe bottom 2 consistently laid looked a bit suspect to me and plenty wanting to back johnson bottom 2 at 2.5ish. Maybe Im just reading events wrong but I never saw tonight coming at all.
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
..although I'mta lking about after the scores were known jr.
I was laying between 2 and 2.5 for as much as I could. Which wasn't much tbh.
You might be talking about bigger prices before that.
Report squares March 6, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
Props next week, or no props this year as Jeff (not very bright tho) seemed to think on the radio.

IMO props would be bad news for JBVC
Report Benjy March 6, 2011 10:10 PM GMT
WD any winners. [;)]

I'm expecting a Johnson bounce next week fwiw.

Surprised Jeff made it above Dennise tonight.
Report PAKEY March 6, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
By: squares
Date Joined: 26 Feb 01 | Topic/replies: 24,113 | Blogger:
So, which bloke goes next week then?
Does Johnson get a bounce / pick up some of Denise votes?


As he is now the sole underdog, I would expect him to pick up a fair percentage of her vote, and a bounce squares.




map
not a clue squares, id guess Johnson fav 4/5 ish? based on the fact he's now the one seperate from the pack kinda
 
I would have him as an outsider to go for exactly the same reasons map.

night guys
be lucky
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 10:14 PM GMT
oh right jr
The 4-1 wasn't me.

I just suspect it was the market being slow to latch onto the possibility of Sam being B2 on the leaderboard, before the pv.

If I had to have a guess at the vote I'd go -

Laura
Sam
Johnson
Chloe
Jeff
Denise.
Report map March 6, 2011 10:15 PM GMT
yea well done winners

I lost everything except my over bet LOL

had chloe /jeff / johnson all at good prices

squares what did you mean earlier when you said I'd get banned?!
Report johnnyrant March 6, 2011 10:17 PM GMT
well, I could never have guessed at that.
Report ajchrisbro March 6, 2011 10:18 PM GMT
anyone here not think jeff should be odds on to go next week?
cert to be booted imo
Report map March 6, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
PAKEY - yea i see what you mena, just thinking what it might be, not the price I think it SHOULD be :)
Report map March 6, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
why aj? he's scoring well though!!
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 10:26 PM GMT
Can't see a bounce for johnson. Do marmites get bounces? Think he's become a marmite in the sense that the tipping point in the public consciousness has been reached where there is a general feeling that better skaters are getting voted out.

Lots of good brains on here thought that this would be the best chance ever for a popular non skater to win.  Fill your boots for ever now laying this type of character in all such contests in years to come.
Report ajchrisbro March 6, 2011 10:31 PM GMT
bit of an over reaction there GB2, cant see how he wont get a big bounce
and nothing to suggest he wasnt in top3 of pv tonight
that will be enough to save him next week
Report five leaves left March 6, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
I Win All The Tim Joined: 29 Jun 09
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Jesus christ how can anyone be surprised? Do you people rly believe Johnson is topping the votes? :D
 


I believe the star story was correct and he led for 7 of the 1st 9 weeks.
If he you want to lay evens on it I'll have as much as you'll lay
Report Henry VIII March 6, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
I think Denise's aggressive husband did her in tonight. And Johnson's floating voters may have been lulled into a false sense of security by the gushing praise he got from the judges (maybe a production decision to kill with kindness).
Report George Bailey March 6, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
Don't think so aj.  Winner will come from top 2 best average skater. That can't be jeff or johnson so they will go next 2 weeks.
Report map March 7, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
Henry, agreed - didn't know who it was at first, i just found it weird and annoying , and would put me off voting for her ..if i voted!
Report five leaves left March 7, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
JBVC was bottom. I can't see his supporters being feeling secure in those circumstances.

As for Denise, they did a Nolan on her. Her vt made out it was all geting too much for her.
Report five leaves left March 7, 2011 1:56 AM GMT
-being*

I see it as Chloe, Laura, Sam final 3 now.

Jeff goes next week. JBVC the week after.

It's then down to which one of Laura or Chloe can get through to the final 2.
Which ever one does wins imo. and that's a coin toss.
Report ajchrisbro March 7, 2011 8:49 AM GMT
Figgy, imo chloe wins in that scenario
bigger journey/improvement than Sam, more likeable than laura
problem for chloe is when not if judges revert back to scoring sam highest
as chloe was overmarked and if as I suspect the Johnson PR train gathers momentum
she could find herself in the next 2 skate offs v jeff then laura.
Sam and Chloe more popular than laura so when it comes to PV they beat her every time.

For me the best bet is still to lay Laura o/r as she cannot win (if she does my book suffers big time) the nb is Jeff to go next week
Of course there could be another twist and Johnson's ex forces buddies could storm the stage, gag and electrocute one of the judges. Then again they could leave that til the 'flying' week when JBvc abseils down covered in camouflage, drops a smoke bomb and takes Jason hostage.
The latter gets him knighted imo however the synchnocricity of the whole thing along with a weak core and poor lines may see him booted off by other judges.
Report Henry VIII March 7, 2011 9:05 AM GMT
I'm afraid your book is going to "suffer big time" aj unless you become a Laura backer.

Sam and Chloe more popular than laura so when it comes to PV they beat her every time.

These things aren't fixed in stone, as the slump in Johnson's PV yesterday showed (and as past voting on all these competitions shows us). Both Chloe and Laura have lovely personalities but GBP are fair and make the winner the one who wows them the most - mixture of: technical skill; romance; excitement.

Laura wins. Having watched all their dances many times I think that Chloe is not as good as the judges' 2 weeks of ramping have suggested.
Report GeorgeBrush March 7, 2011 9:51 AM GMT
Loads of assumptions of a Johnson vote slump...

Clearly he could have been 2nd, overtaken only by a Sam surge...who was clearly in a lot of trouble
Report Henry VIII March 7, 2011 10:06 AM GMT
Yes it may not have been much of a slump. He may have still been 3rd in the PV but I don't know of any likely combination that would have had him as 2nd.
Report Henry VIII March 7, 2011 10:18 AM GMT
OK I've woken up and seen your likely scores thread - Johnson could have been 2nd.
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