New Posts For Thread: ***Eurovision 2015 - road to the Wiener Stadthalle***https://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalleMacedonia's entry:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCueJVsUPzwOh yes. I recall Poland getting the wild card and opting to go 1st in 1st SF 2011. The beautiful Magdalena Tul proceeded to put in a surprisingly limp performance and go straight out with a whimper (taking my money along with her)Germany got the wihttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544906469#544906469Oh yes. I recall Poland getting the wild card and opting to go 1st in 1st SF 2011. The beautiful Magdalena Tul proceeded to put in a surprisingly limp performance and go straight out with a whimper (taking my money along with her)Germany got the wiThu, 28 May 2015 09:45:24 -0500url for link above: http://tinyurl.com/pccbh98https://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544905395#544905395url for link above: http://tinyurl.com/pccbh98Thu, 28 May 2015 08:32:34 -0500In 2012 there was also a wild card in use for the draw where one country in each draw could choose there starting trap: see: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=49623&_t=results_of_the_2012_running_order_drawhttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544905377#544905377In 2012 there was also a wild card in use for the draw where one country in each draw could choose there starting trap: see: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=49623&_t=results_of_the_2012_running_order_drawThu, 28 May 2015 08:31:19 -05002013 contest:"Running order - Unlike previous years, the running order was not decided by the drawing of lots, but instead by the producers, with the aim of making the shows more exciting and ensuring that all contestants had a chance to stand out, phttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544905275#5449052752013 contest:"Running order - Unlike previous years, the running order was not decided by the drawing of lots, but instead by the producers, with the aim of making the shows more exciting and ensuring that all contestants had a chance to stand out, pThu, 28 May 2015 08:25:18 -0500CiderIt was big 4 + Norway in 2010Big 5 in 2011Big 5 + Azer in 2012Big 5 + Sweden in 2013Big 5 + Denmark in 2014Big 5 + Australia + Austria in 2015I know Austria drew separately and they ended up bang in middle (14) Rest of Big 6 drew between SF1 andhttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544898819#544898819CiderIt was big 4 + Norway in 2010Big 5 in 2011Big 5 + Azer in 2012Big 5 + Sweden in 2013Big 5 + Denmark in 2014Big 5 + Australia + Austria in 2015I know Austria drew separately and they ended up bang in middle (14) Rest of Big 6 drew between SF1 andWed, 27 May 2015 16:22:40 -0500Next stage is to work out what odds the Top Ten were pre-Final. It may just be that Top Tens for the first half were all odds on. For every Mans pissing it from First half you have an odds on Top 10 shot like Sloevnia that bomb from a bad spot.2011https://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544898767#544898767Next stage is to work out what odds the Top Ten were pre-Final. It may just be that Top Tens for the first half were all odds on. For every Mans pissing it from First half you have an odds on Top 10 shot like Sloevnia that bomb from a bad spot.2011Wed, 27 May 2015 16:19:11 -0500Cheers Fig. There's so many small things that can influence such statistics. I'm also unsure how the big 5 gets drawn. Or even if there's always been a big 5 or pre-qualifiers in those years.https://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544859299#544859299Cheers Fig. There's so many small things that can influence such statistics. I'm also unsure how the big 5 gets drawn. Or even if there's always been a big 5 or pre-qualifiers in those years.Mon, 25 May 2015 06:41:24 -0500Dead equal over the last 6 years, since we've had the juries30/30 So maybe the juries help even things uphttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544859275#544859275Dead equal over the last 6 years, since we've had the juries30/30 So maybe the juries help even things upMon, 25 May 2015 06:38:41 -0500I think there was one on the bubble and I put it down as 1st half I should have put it down as a half reallyThe draw has always been random as far as I'm awareEasy enough to do a T5 or T3 if someone wants to do it. All the results are on wikihttps://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544859221#544859221I think there was one on the bubble and I put it down as 1st half I should have put it down as a half reallyThe draw has always been random as far as I'm awareEasy enough to do a T5 or T3 if someone wants to do it. All the results are on wikiMon, 25 May 2015 06:33:27 -0500Has the number of runners always been even? If not how are you treating the bubble?Has the draw always been truly random (ie 1st or 2nd half)https://community.betfair.com/specials/go/thread/view/94178/30384181/eurovision-2015---road-to-the-wiener-stadthalle?post_id=544859161#544859161Has the number of runners always been even? If not how are you treating the bubble?Has the draw always been truly random (ie 1st or 2nd half)Mon, 25 May 2015 06:29:30 -0500