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gjohn101
30 Mar 24 13:27
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Over a week yet to go but draw released today and, as ever, a lot to digest. At first glace fair to say it's been kind to some, less so to others. Robbo should really cruise through his first match (Zak or Gao Yang most likely) and then face either Jamie Jones or Xu Si, probably could have been better in fairness, though you'd expect him to come through it in any sort of form. A couple i've had an eye on long term look to have done alright so will have a closer look once some odds are released.

https://www.wst.tv/news/2024/march/30/cazoo-world-championship-qualifiers-draw/
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Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 10:43 AM BST
(and leads to what looks like shocking shot selection)
Report gjohn101 April 16, 2024 10:52 AM BST
I'm inclined to agree with that lats. I was thinking about that too with the (non) performance of the female contingent in R1. Bai Yulu excepted, that is. I watched a bit of the womens world championships and i know we talk about buckets, but the pockets there were a farce. Obviously they wanted them to make proper big breaks and then brag about the standard but watching them hammer pots in along the rails was an affront to the game. I'm then thinking they come along to sheffield and adjusting to the tighter pockets catches them out. I know they're not good, but they're better than they showed. I may be making too much about it but thought did occur to me at the time.
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 11:06 AM BST
The girls this season have made 50s on average every 11.0 frames for Reanne, 11.63 frames for Mink, 12.33 frames for Bai, 16.0 for Baipat and 69 frames for Kenna.  None of them feature higher than #144 out of #156 in the scoring rankings for the season (exc CL(R), CL(I) and Shootout) I've not seen how they fared in the WWC, but based on what you've said, I imagine they will have happened quite a bit more frequently than that!  Laugh  The girls just do not score on the main tour.
Report gjohn101 April 16, 2024 11:26 AM BST
Just some quick sums from womens championships. Bai 14 50+ breaks in 38 frames, mink 6+ in 29, Reanne 13+ in 25 frames. Obviously you need to take into account quality opposition and number of chances, but still a significant advance I'd say. If you'd watched Reanne there without considering conditions, you'd have thought, hmmm, she looks in good shape here. Enough to fool me I'm almost ashamed to say Cry
Report gjohn101 April 16, 2024 11:27 AM BST
Was hoping we might the the full complement of streams noq we've reached the final qualifying round. Silly me againAngry
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 11:30 AM BST

Apr 16, 2024 -- 11:26AM, gjohn101 wrote:


Just some quick sums from womens championships. Bai 14 50+ breaks in 38 frames, mink 6+ in 29, Reanne 13+ in 25 frames. Obviously you need to take into account quality opposition and number of chances, but still a significant advance I'd say. If you'd watched Reanne there without considering conditions, you'd have thought, hmmm, she looks in good shape here. Enough to fool me I'm almost ashamed to say


FOR KING HELL  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 11:31 AM BST
That really does show just how much play there is in the template  Laugh
Report gjohn101 April 16, 2024 11:43 AM BST
Doesn't it just? I don't know, maybe it makes no difference, but i wouldn't have thought it was the best preparation for the world qualifiers.
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 11:46 AM BST
Exactly, mate.  I have been thinking about producing separate sets of numbers for when tables play easy and tight (it was the Miah match here that made me consider it, actually).  It is almost like different surfaces in tennis, just we don't get told in advance which they'll be playing on in a given day.  You can usually work it out within a session or two, though!
Report gjohn101 April 16, 2024 12:01 PM BST
Should be like racing where they give a "going" declaration before tournaments, ranging from Firm which would be total bucketville, a Pistol's dream, to Heavy where they would be tighter than a nuns chuff. And whatever WS declared you'd automatically know to take it to mean two levels below!
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 12:06 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 1:22 PM BST
Lost the sound here for some reason. Waht happened to Stevens then - had to rush out the arena?
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 1:25 PM BST
He's back now - so is the sound! Must have needed to take a leak
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 1:27 PM BST
Zhou and Jones both gone Laugh
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 1:29 PM BST
Ref needs to wander off mid frame
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 1:55 PM BST
Kendrick in to the lead 4-3
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 2:03 PM BST
If Kendrick was to save his tour card at the WC, it would be one of the greatest get out of jail cards ever played.  Still a loooooonnnnng way to go before that becomes a possibility, but it's a real shame he's saved his best till now.
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 2:27 PM BST
Lovely frame to win --- 5-4 Kendrick
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 2:43 PM BST
What's that 3 on the spin from Jones? - 5-4 ahead
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 2:58 PM BST
It was indeed
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 3:06 PM BST
5-4 Williams
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 3:06 PM BST
Cheers Lat btw
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 3:07 PM BST
More people in the crowd today by the looks of it - unless people moving about the arena
Report TCat April 16, 2024 5:43 PM BST
that was an awful in off by Lisowski - very lucky to get away with it
Report TINnotaTON April 16, 2024 5:44 PM BST
An absolute shadow of the player he once was, but what a total mug stevens is now, 8-3 down and with the chances he's spurned, especially the last frame this morning, he conceivable could and should be 6-5 up in this match. wouldn't have guessed he's ranked 48 now, would have said more like 78. Just truly Awful...
Report TCat April 16, 2024 6:03 PM BST
Lisowski not much better - black off the spot missed and he's let Stevens in twice already this frame
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 6:24 PM BST
6 on the spin for Jak J, 8-4 from 2-4
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 6:27 PM BST
7-6 Kendrick!
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 6:50 PM BST
7 for Jak J, 9-4
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 7:20 PM BST
Wow - what a run of frames
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 7:20 PM BST
8 on the spin for Jak J, Zhou gone, 10-4.
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 7:30 PM BST
Kendrick going to have to have a run of his own - Lyu 3 in a row
Report elisjohn April 16, 2024 7:38 PM BST
ballrun in a scrap
Report TINnotaTON April 16, 2024 7:42 PM BST
" Lisowski not much better, black missed off the spot and he's let stevens in twice already this frame "

That's exactly my point, how many chances does stevens want ffs..
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 7:54 PM BST
Well, Jenson had a chance there and couldn't take it, Lyu sends him to Q school.  Hopefully he makes it back as a better player.  He's certainly looked one this past week.
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 7:59 PM BST
Some finish to the frame from Wakelin - black to yellow and then on to the green
Report elisjohn April 16, 2024 8:00 PM BST
ballrun wins 10-8
Report Gutless Wonder April 16, 2024 8:16 PM BST
Mavis final frame could take some time - shot times getting slower - it's all on the line!
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 8:38 PM BST
Hell has gone and heaven's here, there's nothing left for you to fear, 10-9 LMEY
Report Latalomne April 16, 2024 8:38 PM BST
Barring a shed load of snookers
Report pandora1963 April 16, 2024 10:43 PM BST
o connor/yupeng/page treble tomorrow

o connor is  class just needs a breakthrough

yupeng , another class act

page-playing much better lately could outscore sanghkham
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 11:01 AM BST
My idea of value plays today are Wu, Cao, JOC and the if the H2H wasn't so ugly, Scotty D.
Report The Management April 17, 2024 11:20 AM BST
Hello mate, I hope you are well and prospering.

Been away for most of this - but what's going on with the kid (Jiang Jun) playing Hoss today? - His numbers/scoring for these qualifiers are off the scale incredible against anything he has ever done before. Is it just bucketsville?
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 11:26 AM BST
Hi mate, I've only really seen bits of one of his matches (latter stages against Fan).  His scoring is, as you say, far and away superior to anything he's done before.  Certainly at the start of week 1, tables were playing pretty nippy - possibly easing a fraction now.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 11:26 AM BST
As for prospering, there has been VERY little money about, in the main.
Report The Management April 17, 2024 11:33 AM BST
Latalomne17 Apr 24 11:26Joined: 20 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 53,584 | Blogger: Latalomne's blog
As for prospering, there has been VERY little money about, in the main.


Cry Hopefully it picks up from Saturday.
Report The Management April 17, 2024 11:44 AM BST
I think I jinxed the poor kid! Laugh

- but still looking good for 2:0.
Report NtownClown April 17, 2024 1:49 PM BST
Need Cao for a nice double but not feeling like I'm gunna get that now. Disappointing so far.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 2:04 PM BST
Wu 4-0 to 4-4, FFS
Report NtownClown April 17, 2024 2:33 PM BST
Cao really struggling now. 3-1 up but gifted 3 frames back so 4-3 down. Just been told Cao retriing snooker for Chinese 8 ball. Wish I’d have done a bit more digging and known that sooner. Wouldn’t have played.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 6:07 PM BST
9 on the chuffing spin for Si Cry
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 6:07 PM BST

Apr 17, 2024 -- 2:33PM, NtownClown wrote:


Cao really struggling now. 3-1 up but gifted 3 frames back so 4-3 down. Just been told Cao retriing snooker for Chinese 8 ball. Wish I’d have done a bit more digging and known that sooner. Wouldn’t have played.


Your post has only just popped up for me, NtC.  That's interesting!

Report stu April 17, 2024 6:16 PM BST
Robbo starting to find his stride again now...8-5

Looks a threat for main event IMO.
Report stu April 17, 2024 6:16 PM BST
should be 8-5 at least...
Report stu April 17, 2024 6:17 PM BST
Imagine Ronnie drew Robbo first round Laugh
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 6:33 PM BST
Scotty D levels, 7-7 from 2-7
Report stu April 17, 2024 6:40 PM BST
Day's had a mare there hasn't he...
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 6:46 PM BST
I've not seen any of it, TBF, just the scoreline.
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Wu 1.26 backer didn't get much of a run for their money Cry
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 7:00 PM BST
Ronald on Sky quite happy to see World Champs in Saudi - "not saying I want everything laid on - but if you had the choice you would choose somewhere where everything is laid on for ya" - I see.
Report stu April 17, 2024 7:01 PM BST
Jones showing some fair fight against Robbo fair play...
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 7:02 PM BST
fouls Cry
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 7:13 PM BST
Another one back
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 7:19 PM BST
Hoooooge blue
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 7:39 PM BST
That will please Ryno!
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 8:07 PM BST
5 very close matches to finish off
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 8:13 PM BST
Robbo's making hard work of getting this won
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 8:15 PM BST
Ball runs off for Scotty
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 8:27 PM BST
Robbo on the hill with Ryno
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 8:41 PM BST
Scotty D forces the W
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 8:43 PM BST
WTAF was that, Robbo?!?
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 8:43 PM BST
Laugh
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 8:48 PM BST
Too many close matches
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 8:49 PM BST
Page beats Noppon
Report NtownClown April 17, 2024 8:51 PM BST
Cao probably no chance now. Was 8-6 up the joker. Given away 6 frames for free I’d say after being 40-50 points clear.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 8:56 PM BST
Jamie J forces the W
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 8:59 PM BST
Cost me dosh but some break from Jackson to win that, looked like he was having a knockabout down his local club!

Was robbo attempted red even on? Didn't look like it from camera angle anyway.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:00 PM BST
I don't think so, mate.  It looked all kinds of ugly once he'd butchered it anyway.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:03 PM BST
Nice little unmissable three-ball plant sitting there for Jamie J
Report elisjohn April 17, 2024 9:05 PM BST
this probably the wake up call that robbo deserves
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:10 PM BST
Shot
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 9:13 PM BST
Robbo gawn
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:16 PM BST
Christ that he was 8-5 up at one stage there.
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 9:19 PM BST
I guess it's a shock because he seemed to be back playing his standard quality stuff, but i felt a few of his old flaws were starting to show. Average shot time over 30 seconds is telling i think. But hats off to JJ, never gave up and pretty memorable clinical taking his chances in the end.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:24 PM BST
Yeah, he definitely didn't look great in those last few frames.

Just looking at the numbers in the Page match.  HTF did he make a ton in the W?!?  They'd only made 3 50s in 18 frames between them prior to that!
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 9:29 PM BST
I know mate, not just that he made the ton but he just potted them like it was a practice session and it was by no means all laid on, had to make a fair bit of it. Had a huge fluke to win previous frame too.
Report Gutless Wonder April 17, 2024 9:32 PM BST
Some effort from the Welsh players in the final round - Dom/Page/Jamie J/Jak J/Ryno  - just Stevens missed out. MJW wins/runs of frames performance inspiring the rest of them.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:32 PM BST
10-9 Ryno

Shocking day for me, that.
Report Latalomne April 17, 2024 9:32 PM BST

Apr 17, 2024 -- 9:29PM, gjohn101 wrote:


I know mate, not just that he made the ton but he just potted them like it was a practice session and it was by no means all laid on, had to make a fair bit of it. Had a huge fluke to win previous frame too.


Yeah?

Report stu April 17, 2024 9:34 PM BST
Very nearly got tempted into an OR bet on Robbo for this one - thank feck I didn't! Crazy
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 9:43 PM BST
Scotty was obviously playing great stuff up to 8-8 but whenever i tuned in last 3 frames they were both missing chance after chance. Usual ryno fare really, scotty just couldn't keep his momentum going.
Report pandora1963 April 17, 2024 10:03 PM BST
pagey never looked like winning until the last half furlong
Report pandora1963 April 17, 2024 10:04 PM BST
really hope melt loses, cannot stand him
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 10:14 PM BST
Selt just trying to grind JOC down, gets to a winona he'd definitely be favourite.
Report Shalimah April 17, 2024 10:57 PM BST
What is the record for the longest frame?
Report gjohn101 April 17, 2024 11:35 PM BST
Think it's just short of 2 hours, Farmer v Fergal world qualifiers bout 5 years ago. Selt actually had decent chance there but missed yellow off the spot, though pink was awkward. Happy for JOC to get his chance to play in the crucible though.
Report thegiggilo April 17, 2024 11:43 PM BST
Great to see the new players getting through because the ''standards better than ever'' Maguire,Day,Dale,JJones,Gilbert,Walden,Bingham,RWilliams..walofs..
Report gjohn101 April 18, 2024 7:20 AM BST
Oldest world championships ever

https://x.com/lewispirnie/status/1780729126028022170
Report appformat April 18, 2024 8:47 AM BST
Got 3/4 qualifiers through this year at big odds, won't name them though incase the forum curse gets me ShockedLaugh

Good luck everyone.
Report stu April 18, 2024 3:47 PM BST
Some interesting games as always first round - I'm particularly interested in Higgins v Jones, now that Jones has shown some real balls and quality getting past Robbo - oddly the big backer seems to be all over Higgins, but Jones also actually beat him last time they played.
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