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The 2022 version is still over 11 months away, but it's worth opening a thread to keep an eye on developments until we reach April 16th 2022. The latest odds are:

J.Trump 7/2
M.Selby 11/2
R.O'Sullivan 6/1
N.Robertson 13/2
K.Wilson 16/1
J.Higgins 18/1
S.Murphy 18/1
S.Bingham 33/1
M.Allen 40/1
Y.Bingtao 40/1
D.Junhui 40/1
M.Williams 40/1
J.Lisowski 50/1
B.Hawkins 66/1
A.McGill 66/1
S.Maguire 80/1
A.Carter 100/1
D.Gilbert 100/1

125/1 Bar

It's probably still a couple of years too early for him, but 40/1 Bingtao looks reasonable enough at this early stage.
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Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2022 9:35 PM BST
It cant be nice for Judd

The ronnie boys are chirping in the crowd Crazy
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2022 9:48 PM BST
Comeback is on

Baby steps Silly
Report Gin May 1, 2022 9:52 PM BST
Is Ronnie's son in the crowd? It sounds like someone keeps shouting out "C'mon dad".
Report Gin May 1, 2022 9:54 PM BST
**when Ronnie gets a chance otherwise I would assume they were shouting "C'mon Judd".
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2022 9:58 PM BST
Ronnie,there's sweet FA wrong with that tip but plenty wrong with u between the ears
can't be working too fking bad,can it
albeit against a non runner
Report Des Pond May 1, 2022 9:59 PM BST
Trump was unlucky with that in off, but If you're playing this badly, it's going to take a bit more than the rub of the green now and again to turn it around.
Report Latalomne May 1, 2022 10:00 PM BST
That's more like it
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2022 10:01 PM BST
Murphy “theres nothing you can do in that chair”

Hazel “you can try and do something” Laugh

Whats he suppose to do pull faces when in ronnies eye line?
Report Latalomne May 1, 2022 10:03 PM BST
That's a disaster, where the red's ended up
Report Latalomne May 1, 2022 10:04 PM BST
Says a lot about the state of the tables that the crowd thought that was in on the way to the bucket
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2022 10:11 PM BST
i'm quite impressed with this late developer
i wouldn't say this would be his only WC
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2022 10:14 PM BST
That was pathetic Trump
Report Des Pond May 1, 2022 10:15 PM BST
"Tune in tomorrow" LOL
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2022 10:16 PM BST
Nothing unlucky about that hes been feathered ffs
Report A_T May 1, 2022 10:25 PM BST
donald trump would have done better
Report thegiggilo May 1, 2022 10:52 PM BST
Another predictable capitulation,lol the value on O'Sullivan this year has been incredible 5 byes to a world title...
Report jackkat May 1, 2022 11:22 PM BST
Looks like the BBC & Eurosport might have some spare time on their hands tomorrow The whirlwind is 60 tomorrow might see some vintage stuff
Report thegiggilo May 1, 2022 11:26 PM BST
Back to racing for me worst worlds i've ever seen utter trip on mahoosive bags two decent matches through the whole tournament pathetic..
Report thegiggilo May 2, 2022 1:09 AM BST
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Trumps demeanour gave it away happy to reach the final,he seems happy with that while O'Sullivan seems very confident,hardy surprising after seeing Trump capitulate all season,i suspect the 5/4 -2.5 frames will look very generous if that's the case,every match O'Sulivan has been value and on the handicaps..And again the books have done it again,even if Trump were 6 clear,you still wouldn't want to touch him.this could easily be 18-8 upto 18-14...

Cool
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 11:51 AM BST
What a shame for the tournament that Williams didn't make the final, at least he has got the bottle to fight, unlike Trump who has given up already.
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 1:55 PM BST
rocket in full bottle mode..will he win another frame?
Report Latalomne May 2, 2022 2:19 PM BST
12-5 to 12-8
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 2:23 PM BST
choking chav on display..pathetic
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 2, 2022 2:25 PM BST
Bless trumps cotton socks… the poor kid looks like he actually believes he might win Laugh
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 2, 2022 2:26 PM BST
Rocket just doing his bit for the BBC by giving them an evening session, when you are that good you can pick and choose I guess.
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 2, 2022 2:26 PM BST
Rocket just doing his bit for the BBC by giving them an evening session, when you are that good you can pick and choose I guess.
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 2:33 PM BST
needs to stop fking about after the resumption..more of the same a la that last frame
Report A_T May 2, 2022 2:54 PM BST
well done judd
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 3:28 PM BST
rocket's sphincter gone into overdrive..ain't winning jack..biggest ever choke in a WC..Trump on the bridle
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 3:28 PM BST
I wander who Hendry and Murphy want to win
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 3:36 PM BST
Trump was totally in command then his one brain cell lets ronnie right back in with that ridiculous attempt
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 3:38 PM BST
Rock on Ronnie...Keep it at the 4 Lad!!
Report wondersobright May 2, 2022 3:48 PM BST
wow
Report wondersobright May 2, 2022 3:50 PM BST
14-11...set up nicely
Report jackkat May 2, 2022 3:51 PM BST
How many flukes will Trump end up with this is of Steve Davis preportions
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 3:52 PM BST
don't think the rocket is by any means a shoo-in from here..Trump deserves it
Report jackkat May 2, 2022 3:57 PM BST
Ronnie must have had a good bung from BBC and the WPBSA to drag it out Trump has been hopeless all comp the fluke in the last frame he missed the red by a foot
Report A_T May 2, 2022 4:01 PM BST
the Juddinator Cool
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 2, 2022 4:08 PM BST
Pmsl at anyone who genuinely thinks Trump has a chance. Fair play to Ronnie for letting the fans have a session this evening though. Literally can win any frame at will, amusing to hear a couple of the BBC team thinking it’s game on Laugh
Report Latalomne May 2, 2022 4:29 PM BST
Can't believe they brought the site back without first wiping the markets!
Report stu May 2, 2022 4:44 PM BST
Still looks too short Ronnie right now - I don't trust his play at all, and he'll feel the pressure of both the record and becoming one of the worst collapses in WC history finals.
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 5:42 PM BST
Ronnie let him back in we aint all daft Laugh

Trump couldnt pot a ball with confidence all final yet is only 14-11 Laugh
Report stu May 2, 2022 6:29 PM BST
Ronnie is a player who can beat anyone or lose to anyone, just depends on his head.

For that reason taking him very short in this last session is not for me at all.
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 6:55 PM BST
if judd gets to 18 first
the rocket will really have to dig in
Report alun2005 May 2, 2022 7:14 PM BST
It didn't take long for the sub-primers to start making a racket on finals night with their intrusive equipment.

Still, it's an alternative to breaking wind loudly, which is unquestionably their forte.
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 7:16 PM BST
If Judd pulls it off Ill run round the street stark naked
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 7:18 PM BST
I think you'll be quite safe S.S.
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 7:21 PM BST
Nice opening break by Ronnie to settle him down.
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 7:21 PM BST
Rock on...Rock on Ronnie!!!
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:32 PM BST
this will be over by 8pm
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 7:35 PM BST
Its obvious Ronnie was told to prolong it ffs Laugh
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 7:36 PM BST
To be fair some good single pots from Judd there.. 16 - 11
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:37 PM BST
judds  long game is back but he ballsed up the position
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:38 PM BST
davis is  so laid back he nearly falls off the chair
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 7:39 PM BST
The fat lady is having a gargle as we speak.
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 7:40 PM BST
I do like Steve Davis I must say, he's a class act.
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 7:42 PM BST
Hes the complete opposite of what he was during his dominent days (davis) same with Hendry as well

You wouldnt think they were the same people
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:43 PM BST
that should have been in
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:45 PM BST
MISS!!
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:47 PM BST
what a ahot, too late though
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:50 PM BST
4 out of 4 on the long shots tonight for judd and lost both opening frames
Report Des Pond May 2, 2022 7:50 PM BST
Are these tables up to standard for this level? I don't know much about it, but seeing the way the balls seem to wobble about instead of running true, makes me wonder.
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:52 PM BST
16-13 could make it a little bit interesting
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 7:54 PM BST
Playing well for sure...Big frame coming up!!
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 7:55 PM BST
Just delaying the inevetible
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 7:57 PM BST
wrong shot judders
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 7:57 PM BST
Wow, that was not even close with the brown.
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 8:06 PM BST
is ronnies dad there?
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 8:14 PM BST
Not sure....Last time I had a bet on Ronnie was in 2006 when he walked out on Hendry...Just hope he comes back out after interval!
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 8:17 PM BST
bad move there by ronnie getting to 17
he's gonna be absoluted shattered when judd wins the next 6
Report gjohn101 May 2, 2022 8:27 PM BST
"We need to get more corporate hospitality in there and then it'd be perfect."

Fck off judd. Glad you're losing just for that comment alone.
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 8:52 PM BST
shot!
Report MC Roller May 2, 2022 8:57 PM BST
Well played Ronnie. Absolutely hacked up.

Well done if you backed him, never in doubt.
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 8:57 PM BST
Well done Ronnie, the best I've ever seen.
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 8:58 PM BST
nicking half a million but not really
has to weigh out 499k to those who made the draw for him
BROMANCE
Report Latalomne May 2, 2022 8:59 PM BST
Was Ronnie tonguing Judd's ear?!
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 9:00 PM BST
what amazing scenes
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 9:00 PM BST
all the bull about it not mattering to him, you can see how much he cared at the end
Report A_T May 2, 2022 9:03 PM BST
who is the extra from Minder down in the arena?
Report SlippyBlue May 2, 2022 9:09 PM BST
When you think of modern sportsmen and women in various fields then £200 grand for being the runner up in the World championship isn't really that much.
Report Shamus May 2, 2022 9:09 PM BST
Good Game!
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 9:10 PM BST
Well done ronnie but we can turn off the inevitble “great final” tripe

It was the most one sided final in the past 20 years, never look like losing from frame 3 onwards

18-13 yet felt like an 18-6 type match
Report wondersobright May 2, 2022 9:11 PM BST
a chalkfest event played on mega buckets...glad its over
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 9:12 PM BST
Wonder

It never really felt like a world championship to be honest, it was all anti climatic and the final was just meh

Its the first time I wont miss it on the Tuesday which is odd
Report wondersobright May 2, 2022 9:12 PM BST
an unusually chalky 1st & then 7/7 favs from the last 8...Sad
Report pandora1963 May 2, 2022 9:13 PM BST
one of the greatest sporting moments IMO, the emotion at the end was unreal
Report wondersobright May 2, 2022 9:13 PM BST
Its the first time I wont miss it on the Tuesday which is odd

was gunna post something similar to that...agree 100%
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 9:14 PM BST
Pandora

Even that felt acted and half baked as well

The whole thing just feels emotionless, like it was going through the motions

Even ronnie cant wait to get out of there by the looks of it
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 9:16 PM BST
these are not sportsmen BUT (even if one concedes the pockets are not as demanding as in the past and the cloths are quicker)
it is still an incredibly skilful game and the WC demands a lot of mental concentration and being able to handle pressure
so fair play to all involved
Report SontaranStratagem May 2, 2022 9:21 PM BST
I think that definition of sportsman no longer applies in any top sport though johnny theyre brands now
Report gjohn101 May 2, 2022 9:24 PM BST
Latalomne 02 May 22 20:59 
Was Ronnie tonguing Judd's ear?!


Ha! I was sure my screen had stalled, it was bit weird wasn't it, but then ronnies a weirdo anyway so kind of stuff you expect.

Didn't enjoy this year as much as others but fair play to him anyway. I never thought he'd get the sixth a few years ago, never mind the 7th and just not going to bother saying anything about the 8th!
Report johnnythebull May 2, 2022 9:33 PM BST
i watched ES predominantly and i have to say that Radzi dude was really refreshing,enthusiastic,knowledgeable and professional aided and abetted by Angles and Jimmy..great coverage
Report gjohn101 May 2, 2022 9:37 PM BST
Radzi isn't too bad, never annoying unlike the t0sspots who came before him. Rachel is terrible but that apart, ES is vastly superior to bbc. Jimmy F bomb was class too!
Report jackkat May 2, 2022 10:33 PM BST
I was a Eurosport viewer all the way I thought the coverage was great thought Radzi did a good job of holding it all together The tournament as a whole I probably don't put it in my top 5 but Ronnie reaching 7 made it special Ronnie was my main bet and the winner to come from the bottom half with Unibets generous 11/10 made it a good comp overall punting wise Jimmy said Ronnie could reach 10 I'm not sure on that but he could get close Also its painfully obvious Robertson does not produce at Sheffield and with the beats Higgins took this season 10 might be on the cards
Report SontaranStratagem May 3, 2022 2:22 AM BST
Seen some vids of ronnies dad and I wouldnt trust myself not to have it out with him Plain

Hes confrontational and aggressive to basic questions ffs, tries to intimidate people as his normal trait

A total cant in my opinion
Report Latalomne May 3, 2022 9:23 AM BST
Probably something to do with him being a convicted murderer.
Report Latalomne May 3, 2022 9:40 AM BST

May 2, 2022 -- 9:24PM, gjohn101 wrote:


Latalomne 02 May 22 20:59

Report Latalomne May 3, 2022 9:40 AM BST
Yes, mate, extremely weird!  Must admit, I didn't put the normal TV on once the BFLV coverage finished, so no idea if anything was said about what sweet nothings Ronnie had whispered.

Circumstances meant it was difficult for me to get into it, but other than the Trump v MJW match, I don't think I would have fared desperately well had I been around for all of it!  I did say in early-December that I thought Ronnie might not win much else unless he changed something, and there was a marked step-up following his split from Laila, though whether that was the catalyst for it or not, who knows.  From what I saw, he thoroughly deserved his success here.

Quite glad the season is over, TBH, as good as it's been overall.  Not sure I'll bother with the ranking CL, which starts at the end of June, but I'll definitely give the European Masters qualies a bash in mid-July.  Catch you then, if not before!
Report gjohn101 May 3, 2022 12:40 PM BST
It felt weird because at the end of the day while there is obvious respect there, you'd hardly say they're mates exactly would you? He hugged judd longer than he did both his kids, no big deal really but just weird.

What was most disappointing for me about it is i don't think ronnie was ever put under any serious pressure at any time and it wasn't even as if he was playing THAT well, absolutely nothing like 2013 or 2004 anyway, no matter what certain pundits would have you believe.

Draw turned out incredibly benign but that does happen. Remember, robbo won his sole title beating Fergal/Gould (who could have beaten him)/Davis/Carter/Dott. Not sure any softer world titles than that have been won. But you can only play what's put in front of you.

Anyway, have a good summer mate and catch you in the autumn. As ever, i'm resolving to watch at least 50% less snooker next season but already i see Fergal has drawn Liam Davies in the first q school event, the guy who put him off the tour, and I'm finding myself being suckered in already. Plus ca change etcWinkHappy
Report gobelins May 4, 2022 9:20 PM BST
Yes, given that there was a record number of Crucible centuries, which as we know is the single biggest indicator of rising standards, it is surprising that O'Sullivan wasn't really tested, particurlarly in an era of 10 or 12 supposed all-time greats. Each of his 5 opponents massively under-performed against him, other than Trump on day 2 of the final. Do people really believe that Hendry or Davis would not have made short-work against this standard of opposition? None of this is O'Sullivan's concern, of course, and it is a truly phenomenal effort for him to reach 7 World titles. I definitely did not think this was possible a few years ago, but O'Sullivan did. He knows that if he applies himself, and plays to this level then he is still the player to beat, even at The Crucible - maybe, especially at The Crucible. I don't think he'll win an 8th, but I didn't think he'd win a 6th or 7th, and I expect thegiggilo will be putting O'Sullivan's case, as strongly as ever, nearer the time.

Just 346 days before hostilities resume...
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