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By:
bobweenit
When: 28 Jul 20 09:33
Really like the look of black beauty tbh.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 28 Jul 20 10:49
ill be watching from the white horse, after timing with bob.
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gjohn101
When: 28 Jul 20 11:54
Probably say this every year but the qualifiers look a bit uninspiring. Least so far anyway. Ursenbacher is probably the one I'd want to avoid as s seed, has the 'could be anything' look about him with the timeform squiggle.

Cant remember last time i thought this but at moment Murphy is firmly on my radar.
By:
wondersobright
When: 28 Jul 20 14:19
with all that has gone on this year its crying out for you to back a handful of rags...but wait for the draw is my advice
By:
gjohn101
When: 28 Jul 20 14:21
Only one bet so far on Thepchaiya. 100 is way too big imo. Would probably still bet him at 50. A danger to whoever he draws.
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gobelins
When: 30 Jul 20 21:22
Not a great draw gj, although he might get a bye if O'Sullivan doesn't fancy it. The big positive of course with The Sheriff pulling out is Kyren gets a bye, and can put his feet up instead of having a tricky opener. One down, four to go.
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gobelins
When: 30 Jul 20 21:22
Not a great draw gj, although he might get a bye if O'Sullivan doesn't fancy it. The big positive of course with The Sheriff pulling out is Kyren gets a bye, and can put his feet up instead of having a tricky opener. One down, four to go.
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gjohn101
When: 30 Jul 20 21:57
Figured you might be on the Wilson train gobe. You're happy enough so.

Thought i was doin ok getting theppy at 100 and next thing he's even bigger. No matter, just back him again and if he does beat ronnie at least the price will plummet. No biggie.

Who else you looking at? Murphy ticking a few boxes for me. Exact same odds as wilson which is fair enough. Will throw a few shekels on Urse just to get rid of em and look for something in top half of draw. Maybe even wilson!
By:
gobelins
When: 30 Jul 20 22:23
I'd have really fancied Murphy had we not had the break, and I was happy Maguire won the Tour Championship, as if he hadn't Kyren would have had Murphy in R2. I think Higgins enters calculations, as he'll be fresh, although the lack of a capacity crowd is a big negative for him. The different atmosphere is the big unknown and had we got a stronger group of qualifiers, I think we could have had a shock winner. M.Gould played well in the qualifiers, and he seems in a good place mentally, and as he is a streak player he might have a chance in the top quarter - he certainly shouldn't be 66/1.
By:
gjohn101
When: 30 Jul 20 23:07
Interesting interview with Gould the other night. Down in the dumps in march, even considering packing it in, lockdown comes, he reevaluates and now he's heading to the crucible with a spring in his step. Cant say i really rate him but does make him dangerous. I'm not ruling many out.

The one i think could struggle with break is robbo. Just seems a momentum kind of guy to me who when he gets on a roll can be hard to stop. So i think it could be a chance for Murphy to avenge last year if they meet in R2. Thats my theory anyway. Just waiting to be bombed to pieces!
By:
gobelins
When: 31 Jul 20 07:06
I think Robertson would have benefited from no crowd at The Crucible more than most of the other main contenders, as he has buckled  there many times since he won it. He's been talking about working on his fitness and diet, as much as his game recently, and he now believes he needs to be more competitive in the safety exchanges here. He has a difficult draw, and someone like Wenbo is just the sort of player who could give him trouble if he doesn't start well. In the past couple of seasons he has had spells in the season where he has looked almost unbeatable, which ties in with what you say about him getting on a roll. But, he'll do well to get on a roll in a section full of tactically astute players (Murphy apart).
I think a few players have benefited from lock-down, but we really only know about how it affected the qualifiers following their recent interviews. What we don't know is how it affected most of the seeds, and how much work they were able to put in. There's lots and lots of "ifs" and "buts" this year.
By:
gobelins
When: 03 Aug 20 07:28
Poor old Un-Nooh looked like a rabbit in the headlights gj. Hopefully, the end will be merciful. Murphy was on the drift for a while, I'm assuming that this was linked to him going to Portugal for Brandon Parker's funeral, and doubts whether he would be able to compete - but it seems he can. You can't beat a bit more COVID confusion!

Have you had any more dabbles gj? I know you mentioned Ursenbacher, and normally I wouldn't give him a prayer in a section as tough as Quarter 4. But, you've got to think the lack of a crowd is not going to benefit Crucible stalwarts The Hawk, Murphy or Selby. Isn't it great hearing that applause at the end of a frame, or for a century - it made me think that there really is a crowd. Another wonderful idea from Hearn no doubt, but I suppose after A.Hamilton's decision was totally vindicated following his vitriolic attack he had to deflect it somehow.
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gjohn101
When: 03 Aug 20 12:05
How many times we see ronnie do that gobe? From first frame was just attacking every single shot and asking thep how long he could  play this game of chicken for. Not long was the answer.

Have to admit I'm not fully engaged in this, watching the matches but too many invariables to have any great convictions, I've backed murphy because of his season and life changes but its a tough section so just a hopeful punt. Top section is where you want to be but who comes out of it? No idea. Judd maybe got his bad snooker out of the way and hits top gear again? Very possible but still no interest in betting him.

Ronnie says it feels like he's at holiday camp and if he's genuinely living it then I'd make him favourite. But i rarely believe anything ronnie says about his own game so i wouldn't bank on that either.

Did think we might see more seeds falling but just the one so far which is interesting. Didnt look the greatest crop of qualifiers tbf, few of the chinese boys missing.

Am almost tempted to back no maximum rather large, near enough 1.9 last i saw. May well be likely but i dont know is it that likely?

So not much insight here I'm afraid. How bout you? Never thought the sheriff required any vindication btw. He did what was best and right for him as a professional snooker player. Barry talking about him depriving other players of an opportunity made me chuckle tbh, because how many players did Barry deprive of opportunities by handing out tour cards to his mates? Just came across hypocritical imho.
By:
wondersobright
When: 03 Aug 20 14:33
no maxi was 4/6 on here start of tournament, been bigger matched i/r during ford & muglin's maxi chances
By:
gjohn101
When: 04 Aug 20 13:22
Got some run on murphy to be fair! Quick death sometimes a reasonable option. Noppon did some potting to be fair to him, punished every mistake, never looked under any pressure at all.

Have to take on selby and allen at yhese skinny prices. Both probably win but selby playing muck and Clarke doesnt look too bad.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 05 Aug 20 17:46
Must admit i'm pleasantly surprised to see Clarke at 5/2 to beat Mcgill, played a blinder against Allen, thought he'd be favourite in this match.
By:
gobelins
When: 05 Aug 20 20:58
Hopefully, you got your outright losses back on Clarke gj? I've got to be honest I was keen to oppose Allen, but thought my chance would come with McGill in R2. Clarke saw it out really well last night, but McGill must think he's dreaming - Lisowski and Clarke for a place in the last 8, and who knows maybe Maflin if he gets there.
I've got to be honest I've not had too many bets this year with so many unknowns. I'm on Wilson outright - and was hopeful of odds of about 4/5 to beat Maguire - who I think he would have buried (although I suppose that's easy to say now it's not going to happen), and I had to have a (small) dabble on The Hawk before he started his 1st round match. I'd be confident he would beat Robertson, or at least run him close, in a capacity Crucible, but i think an empty venue favours Robertson.
If you're going back in on the outrights, please steer clear of Kyren Grin
By:
gjohn101
When: 06 Aug 20 09:44
Nah, you'll be pleased to hear I'll be on Gould to take out kyren. Kicking myself i didnt see it before the Maguire match. I even remarked after his interview after the qualifiers where he talked about being in a dark place a few months back that it made him a dangerous player coming here but i forgot about it completely. Just not paying enough attention basically. Price isnt really great tbh but I'll have a bit on just for interest.

Also with the other poster above rw Clarke. Probably expecting a lot to think he'd repeat his first round performance against mcgill but i doubt he'd have to. Not sure mcgill should be that price against anybody in a world last 16 quite frankly. Have to take him on really.
By:
gobelins
When: 06 Aug 20 19:31
Gould is definitely dangerous, and I'm a bit worried he'll catch Wilson cold early on. The tournament will be past half-way before Wilson plays his 1st shot, so although he benefited from the bye, it might leave him a bit under-cooked early on against Gould. I think Clarke is over-priced, but not overly. He was 80/1 just to qualify for The Crucible (he had to win just 3 matches), and he has massively over-achieved in the past couple of weeks. If they had played at EIS, I think McGill would have been a lot shorter, and I'd expect McGill to come on for the run against Lisowski - as he hasn't had a lot of success in the past couple of seasons and therefore he hasn't spent a lot of time on the main match tables. But, there were encouraging signs against Lisowski, and his cue action looked far more solid than of late. As I've said before I think he could develop into a Crucible specialist as he clearly prefers matches over a longer format.
By:
gjohn101
When: 07 Aug 20 09:18
This is certainly mcgills best tournament, at least he qualifies every year, so he's definitely the likeliest winner. Still a tad short on the basis of how clarke performed against allen i think, but no guarantee Clarke will repeat that.

Fascinated by Maflins interview last night. Remained in the uk past couple of months due to lockdown and put in the hard yards with jimmy and others. Think that change of routine flicked a switch for him. If judd falls, and it looks possible on what I've seen so far, it's a massive opportunity for wilson. Otherwise some complete banger is going to make a world final!
By:
gobelins
When: 08 Aug 20 13:32
I didn't catch much of McGill v Clarke yesterday, but was surprised to see the score particularly as, looking at the frame scores, I was expecting lots of bitty, tactical, frames and thought McGill would probably win the majority of them. It's early days, but that is a healthy lead for Clarke. Regarding Maflin, I don't think Ken was too taken with his interview. He sounded baffled this morning that you wouldn't be putting in all the extra work with it being the World Championship. He said something along the lines of - what else are you going to be doing, it's your job haha. Well said Ken! For all that, Maflin reminded me a bit of Joe Johnson in '86 - absolutely fearless and he's won 2 tight finishes. He's got a chance on his current form.
By:
england_v_south_afri
When: 08 Aug 20 19:26
I've had a small bet on Mark Williams @ 20/1 to win it. I think 20/1 is classed as a dark horse lol.
By:
gjohn101
When: 08 Aug 20 20:04
Didnt hear ken gobe, but i think maflin is lazy and the point is if he'd been back in norway with all the usual distractions of home around him, he wouldn't be as well prepared as he is. Jimmy made the point that you simply can't live in norway and expect to fulfil your potential and i agree on that.

Actually think maflin will be chuckling away to himself watching the mcgill-clarke match. Aside from the controversy, its a desperately poor quality affair and dont see either going much deeper. Not sure about mcgills behaviour there, will give him the benefit of doubt and say he didnt intend for the situation to escalate as it did, but regardless, clarke didnt have to crumble like he did. Tweeting mid frame ffs! I thought it was bad with Judd a few years back and that was during the interval!

Wilson looks ok but should be 6-2 at worst. Can give trump a real game if he comes through, not enamoured with judds body language at all.
By:
gjohn101
When: 08 Aug 20 20:05
*Tweeting between frames
By:
gobelins
When: 08 Aug 20 21:31
Clarke is an idiot gj. To go on social media the way he has is so unprofessional. Joe Perry almost squared up to him in the qualifiers - as, according to Perry, Clarke kept wiping his cue down while Perry was down on the shot and had him in his eye line. Perry didn't cover himself in glory during the crucial 9th frame of that match, and overstepped the mark in my opinion, but Clarke knows what he's doing. I don't know what McGill said to Clarke backstage at the end of the 10th frame, but I saw nothing untoward from him in the arena. As you say, it's a poor quality match but there's a real edge to it, and tomorrow's deciding session will be well worth watching.
By:
gjohn101
When: 09 Aug 20 10:33
It's a tough situation. As you say, that's twice for Clarke so there may well be something in it, but if mcgill had that issue, I'm not sure he went the right way about it either. Clarke has handled it shockingly badly though, no question about that. Fear for his prospects tonight.

What price do you think Kyren v Judd. Will we see 2/1 or more?

I see robbo is flying along as usual with his 27 seconds ast. Might scrape past hawk but i fancy the overthinking and negative safety will trip him up as it usually does.
By:
gobelins
When: 09 Aug 20 18:54
Well we can get 9/4 Wilson. I was confident last night that he'd beat Trump, but watching that this afternoon has diminished my confidence a bit. What we do know about Wilson though, is that he is unlikely to buckle under pressure - he may not be good enough, but he's likely to see it through if he gets the chance. Seeing Wilson in the opposite chair may spark Trump into life, but he has looked subdued so far, and he definitely needs to improve to beat Wilson. Robertson's interview was interesting, and it said a lot about his mindset, but for a player who seems obsessed with his shot time, he'll probably be concerned if he sees that figure. But, he has grafted hard so far, although I do think Hawkins missed the boat last night - he should have gone 8-6, and if he had then I think he would have won. Selby had to play well to survive the last round, and history tells us that he gets stronger as we get to this stage. That looks a titanic struggle potentially, and I couldn't touch Robertson at 8/13.
By:
gobelins
When: 10 Aug 20 07:31
Hope you enjoyed the drama last night gj. A good old-fashioned midnight finish. I have absolutely no idea how McGill won, and he'll do well to get himself ready mentally for his opening session today.
By:
gobelins
When: 10 Aug 20 08:46
Apologies gj. I'd totally forgotten you had backed Clarke. That's the sort of drama you can do without.
By:
gjohn101
When: 10 Aug 20 09:07
Most entertaining match I've watched all season, crowd or no crowd. Had everything, bar real top quality i suppose. That pink will haunt clarke but truth is he lost it with his overreaction to Saturdays incident. That should be a valuable lesson for him, overall it's been a positive experience and he's saved his career.

McGill looked absolutely shattered during his post match interview so i think he'll do well to stick with Maflin today. I'd fancy Maflin regardless. McGill can play some nice inventive shots at times, but i dont think he'd have beaten any other player in the draw. Think this is the end of the road and Maflin goes to one more stop.

Not having a jinx bet, but wilson price looks very fair to me. Didnt see much of yesterday but on basis of what i have seen i wouldn't be that confident about trump.
By:
gobelins
When: 12 Aug 20 07:37
Are you going to take O'Sullivan's advice gj and "lump on Selby"? Even by his standards, I couldn't believe his interview. Can you imagine anyone of his standing, in any other sport, speaking like that on the eve of a World Championship Semi Final? That said, he dug in yesterday when well behind against Williams, so the prospect of a match with Selby didn't deter him. But, I've had to back Selby at 7/4 - I didn't think an empty Crucible would suit him, but he looked close to his title-winning form against Robertson. He probably isn't scoring as heavily as in his pomp, but he has looked a different player since the closing stages against Saengkham. I hope you took some of the 9/4 Wilson against Trump? Trump had struggled in the 2 events since lockdown, and he hadn't shown too much in the opening rounds here. You've got to wonder if McGill is going to hit the wall soon. He's put in some monumental efforts to get this far, and while he is undoubtedly the least likely winner, I'm sure he won't go down without a fight.
By:
gjohn101
When: 12 Aug 20 08:00
Problem with ronnie is he has created this interview persona for these occasions and it's almost standard now he'll come out with some line to shake everybody up. The act is gone a bit stale if you ask me, but the casuals lap it up.

Selby looks a bet alright. I'm not convinced he's anywhere near his best on the basis of one good performance against an obliging Robertson, but he's still more trustworthy, performance wise than ronnie. Interesting to hear robbo refer to heavy table conditions yesterday, not the first to suggest that. Which i think would be in selbys favour here, remember he has always done well in china where they have those kind of conditions.

I was confident Maflin would beat McGill and then Wilson would comfortably beat Maflin. Now i think i just got the first bit wrong. Lisowski, Clarke, Maflin are good opponents for McGill, dont think Wilson is. Besides, Wilson does have an extra gear and more class. It's that simple, isnt it?

What did you make of fb incident last night? I think it may well have been and correct result, but not Jans finest hour. He made three mistakes in the whole process which i doubt he coukd be happy about.
By:
gobelins
When: 12 Aug 20 10:22
It was a shocker from Jan. It may well have been the right call, but it looked like O'Sullivan influenced him. I don't understand how they dont have the technology to determine these borderline decisions. It looks ridiculous placing reds back on the table and checking the line. Robertson has lost the plot about how to prepare for Sheffield. I agree with you, he allowed Selby to dictate the type of game they played, and it totally blunted him. And, maybe you're right that we can't assume Selby is back to close to his best, based on one performance, but there are good signs and he's giving off positive signals unlike O'Sullivan. The 7/4 was too big for me to resist.It's
By:
gjohn101
When: 12 Aug 20 12:20
Thing is i guess, how many tight calls like that do you get in a snooker match and how many at such a critical point of the match? It's pretty rare so I'd guess expensive var type technology would be deemed not worth the cost.

Jan was a bit lucky i thought in that it was mjw sitting in the chair and not, say, Ali Carter or someone else who might not have accepted it so languidly.

I would put some of it down to tiredness, he looked as if his concentration was a bit off to me and maybe thats understandable as he'd done the Clarke-McGill match and got little enough rest after it.

Selby is definitely the popular choice and 15/8 was correctly identified as value. All told, he ticks a couple of more boxes for me.
By:
gobelins
When: 12 Aug 20 12:42
They used to have hawkeye didn't they, but you're probably right about the cost for something that might only be needed 2 or 3 times all tournament. Who was the 15/8 with? I missed that.
By:
gobelins
When: 13 Aug 20 07:16
Well, yesterday didn't exactly go to plan. But, Selby did what Selby does - somehow he gets out of a session he was totally outplayed in at 3-5, when other players would have been 2-6 or 1-7. Pre-match, today looked to be potentially a difficult day for McGill, with 2 sessions to play. At some point you have to think his exploits so far are going to catch up with him, but that lead is going to give him a huge lift, and it puts Wilson under pressure right from the off this morning. A big 2nd session awaits in both matches.
By:
gjohn101
When: 13 Aug 20 09:27
I didnt see the 15/8 myself gobe, just saw others quoting it. Probably only there for a short time. Was 3.8 last night and that could be even more value after the way that first session went. I suspect ronnie will ultimately crack again here if the match develops like that, him playing all the snooker but unable to shake selby off. Selby might have to up his level a fair bit from where he was yesterday but that shouldn't be hard as he was fairly cack and moaning continuously about the table which is never a good sign. Fascinating match and immensely enjoyed that session.

As for wilson, just when i was starting to believe in him! Never showed yesterday. Think the burden of expectation or being favourite got to him. McGill seems to be a lad who will  fairly keep to his level on this track no matter who he's playing, didnt even have to do that much yesterday and probably should have had a 7-1 lead. As you say, at some point you think mcgills exertions will catch up with him, but I've been expecting that for days and it hasn't happened yet so kinda done predicting it! Not sure he'd take 7-9 over the 2 sessions today if you offered it to him, but wouldnt be a bad result at all I'd say. Anything worse for wilson would be very bad.
By:
Latalomne
When: 13 Aug 20 10:05
I would argue that the only consistent thing about McGill's tournament has been his inconsistency, GJ!  Brutal first session against Clarke and only got into it after the argument.  Probably should still have lost.  Maflin didn't show up for session 1, and McGill was awful in session 2.  Could easily have lost that 7-1 or even 8-0.  Looked like an arm had fallen off a few times in the final session of that before finally getting his act together.  It would be no surprises to me if he didn't show up this morning.
By:
gjohn101
When: 13 Aug 20 10:12
Fair comment lats. Was probably judging it on the bits I've seen myself so definitely open to correction.

Interesting comments there from mcgill on eurosport: "doesnt feel like a world championship...feels like playing down the club." Wonder if wilson or others feel the same. Must surely be a help for mcgill if he keeps that attitude to the end. I like his honesty anyway.
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