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after the UK its back to earth with a bump and a best of 7 crapshoot filth fest! roll on the carnage Laugh
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Report gjohn101 December 14, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
I like ryan day, comes across as a very pleasant chap, but he lacks the mental ruthlessness to be a top snooker player. Makes a few qfs and rarely beyond that and that’s pretty much his level. He’s a quarter final type of player and that’s all you need to be a top 16 regular in this, the greatest snooker era ever.
Report wisewords December 14, 2018 9:49 PM GMT

Dec 14, 2018 -- 2:43PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


note to self, never back a man who marries his aunt


CrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy

Report gobelins December 15, 2018 10:00 AM GMT
gj - how dare you suggest that players who have no killer instinct and were treated as cannon fodder for 10-15 years are not "great players" in this era of total greatness. In fact, how dare you suggest that a truly world class performer like Day has no killer instinct.

Imagine how many ranking events the greatest would have won had he been around in this era - 50 to 60 as an absolute minimum. I heard N.Robertson infer in a piece during the UK that players wouldn't be as scared of him in this era, as they all played a similar attacking game and that is what set him apart when he dominated the game. Outrageously, it went unchallenged. What is certain is that Robbo wouldn't have won 14 ranking events had he been around in the mid 90s, absolutely nowhere near it.
Report trebor December 15, 2018 10:54 AM GMT
Hendry had 63% of his wins in the first third of his career, in other words before O'Sullivan, Higgins and Williams had got 3 years experience under their belts, imo the majority of Hendry's wins came in a era no stronger than now.

He may have won more ranking events because of there being more ranking events to play in now, but he get's rated as the goat on just a third of his career, the other two thirds he was very ordinary and not a player to be feared.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 11:29 AM GMT
I’ve always had the feeling the thin cloths, generous pockets and fast tables would have made hendry even more of a beast than he was. Remember, one of his “weaknesses”, if you can call it that, was that he wasn’t blessed with massive cue power, at least relative to his closest rivals, a shortcoming that would count far less on these “super fine cloths”, as JV would put it. Of course there’s always the chance today’s players- though truly great as they are - would drag him down to their level but I believe he would hoover up dozens of these titles. If most of these guys still soil their keks when facing ronnie why would it be any different against a peak hendry robbo?
Report trebor December 15, 2018 11:54 AM GMT
Not sure that's a fair comparison GJ, your putting Hendry at his peak against all the rest as you see them today, So O'Sullivan, Higgins and Williams as 43 year olds against a younger Hendry? they already saw him off as he did with Davis.

A lot gets said about how old some of the players competing are but some of Hendry's opponents where over 50, not surprising they feared his attacking game, but when the class off 92 got into their stride, it was more Hendry who felt the fear and drifted away at a relatively early age, no longer having the confidence to play his attacking game.

Although I think Robbo's comments are to build confidence and never talk your self down, I think there is some truth in there. Hendry's last two thirds of his career seem to comfirm it.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 12:29 PM GMT
I dunno, these comparisons only really work on a superficial level anyway. But robbo was specifically referring to peak era hendry anyway so on that basis I’d say it’s fair enough. Your right as to robbos motive at least, just more unconvincing bluster from a guy whose achievements never quite match up to his big talk.

Historical trouble with snooker is the davis’ held its development back decades through running the sport as their own personal fiefdom so naturally the age profile remained high far longer than it should have. But far from being a sign of things to come the youth explosion of the 92 generation turned out to be nothing more than a blip, an exception to the rule. Despite all the changes things are regressing back to the way they were, with the added difference that there is less top quality coming through and a heap load more of abject mediocrity.
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 12:57 PM GMT
How on earth did Jimmy get away with out any ribbing there when Sam Baird says his wish is for more hair this Christmas?!?!  LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 1:38 PM GMT
Brutal start Mark Allen.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 1:51 PM GMT
What the actual f... was that shot allen just played?
Report gobelins December 15, 2018 1:55 PM GMT
trebor "...the other two thirds he was very ordinary and not a player to be feared".

Very ordinary? Really? Maybe that description applies to the final 5-6 years of his career but not for 18 of his 27 years as a professional. As for the standard - I don't remember Hendry appearing in too many ranking QFs with 4 players in it as limited as D.Wells, S.Baird, A.Burden and S.Carrington.
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 1:58 PM GMT
63% pot success for Allen after a frame and a half of this so far, and he's had no shortage of chances.
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 2:11 PM GMT
That was a million miles away!
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 2:13 PM GMT
What is Joe chatting about?!?
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Allen looks out of focus, mentally shattered. See he hadn’t entered germany next week too. Don’t think he wins this match from here.
Report trebor December 15, 2018 2:33 PM GMT
As I said earlier it would be difficult to get a quarters with players with those rankings in the 90's due to top 16 not starting untilmost of the lower ranked players have knocked each other out, but I know I can find some weak quarters from the 90's, I like a challenge.Grin

As for Hendry being ordenary last 18 years of career there was an obvoius contender for me to compare against, Robbo of course, Hendry 4 more wins in 2 extra years, but take out Hendry's years 10 and 11 and you take out 10 wins, so over same number of years Robbo 6 ahead.

Ok so I am comparing Hendry's decline against Robbo's career so far, but that was what I was saying in my prior post.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 2:56 PM GMT
Ah here, hendry was a machine, a rolls royce of a competitor whose decline has to be seen in the context of stiff challenges from the best generation of players ever and in their peak. Neil Robertson is a trumped up ford escort who won the softest ever world title and recorded sports most inappropriate ott celebration after achieving some meaningless scoring record. Any comparison between the two is little short of ludicrous.
Report alfee December 15, 2018 2:56 PM GMT
Allens at IT !!!,  Looks like he Wants to Go Home Regardless .
Report alfee December 15, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
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Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 3:37 PM GMT
Hello, hello!
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 3:43 PM GMT
sup
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 3:43 PM GMT
holy feck daniel wells is gonna be in the final when he was supposed to play ronnie in R1, talk about a stroke of good fortune
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 4:10 PM GMT
wells starting to mug really badly
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 4:12 PM GMT
Different game now than earlier, Allen finally woken up and wells smelling the finish line as well as his squeaky bum.
Report Latalomne December 15, 2018 4:32 PM GMT

Dec 15, 2018 -- 10:10AM, GRANTCKING wrote:


wells starting to mug really badly


I thought that was the case when I posted "Hello, hello!"

If Allen is to prevail, I won't be around to see it, and I'm not here for SF#2 either.

Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 5:19 PM GMT
Quality wins in the end. Wells looked a bit crestfallen there, feel a bit sorry for him, a chance that won’t come around again in a hurry.

When he won international Allen came back from the dead to beat Liam Highfield and does it here against Danny Wells. Don’t know what he was at for four frames there though, looked like he was about to self combust.
Report gobelins December 15, 2018 5:30 PM GMT
Yes, a good comeback from Allen - who just said in his interview he's been on the ale every night, and basically hasn't cared about whether he's won or lost. They tell me the standard is so high these days, and there are so many great players around. Clearly, none of them are playing here this week.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 6:14 PM GMT
I’m convinced a few of the top players got together a couple of months back and laid bets to see who could play the worst snooker and still win matches, just to liven the tour up a bit. As things stand Allen could be in line for an added xmas bonus though higgins still pushing him close.
Report wisewords December 15, 2018 6:44 PM GMT
how low did Daniel Wells trade this afternoon?
Report gobelins December 15, 2018 7:12 PM GMT
I think you're right gj haha. Allen gets added points for it being in a SF though. If O'Sullivan, Williams and now Allen can say after matches that they didn't care if they'd lost, and they genuinely meant it (and I believe they do) what does that say for the credibility of these tournaments?

D.Wells was matched for a few hundred at 1.06, but for a few grand at 1.07-1.1, and then all the numbers upwards. In fairness, he was leading 4-0 and by 50 in the next. From 5-2 he never got a look in after he touched the green.
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 7:30 PM GMT
mophee in clean here for 3-0, an allen v god final will be interesting considering theyve been on the lash all week, might have pints at the table!
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 7:44 PM GMT
Could be an interesting new handicap system being trial tested here. Top 5 in world have to drink 10 pints night before match, 10-16 5 pints, 16-32 3 pints and so on. Non drinkers may replace alcohol with any hard drug of their choice. Could have cropped up at the agm perhaps?
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 7:45 PM GMT
Laugh
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 7:45 PM GMT
35mins for 4 frames jesus!
Report thepunter December 15, 2018 9:13 PM GMT
FR 8 must be the worst ever played between 2 top 10.
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 9:23 PM GMT
It was comically bad alright
Report GRANTCKING December 15, 2018 9:32 PM GMT
what a blessed mo fo
Report wondersobright December 15, 2018 9:37 PM GMT
big win for shon mugfee
Report gjohn101 December 15, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
Absolute turd of a match, fittingly decided pretty much by an outrageous fluke. Dismal tournament overall, couldn’t really give a fck about who wins tomorrow but murphy needs it more badly so should win, wouldn’t bet on it though.
Report deadbrain59 December 16, 2018 11:33 AM GMT
head to head 10-4 murphy, 2.0 takenMischief
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 12:57 PM GMT
fancy god to win here
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 1:04 PM GMT
Was thinking the same, G.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 1:12 PM GMT
Rather different start from Allen to yesterday!
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 1:22 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
Oh my GOD
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
oh god wtf have u just done
Report wondersobright December 16, 2018 1:55 PM GMT
BORING BORING TABLES, BORING BORING TABLES
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:02 PM GMT
Three times now
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 2:04 PM GMT
Laugh
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 2:04 PM GMT
god is on a mission to burst punters here
Report wondersobright December 16, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
cooper this darts match is like watching allan taylor play mike dunn...ie terrible
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:10 PM GMT
OUTSTANDING snooker there from Moiphee.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:10 PM GMT
Great hit
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:11 PM GMT
Best safety I've seen Shon play for years.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:11 PM GMT
No reward, though, and in trouble himself.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 2:12 PM GMT

Dec 16, 2018 -- 8:08AM, wondersobright wrote:


cooper this darts match is like watching allan taylor play mike dunn...ie terrible


LaughLaugh

Report wondersobright December 16, 2018 2:14 PM GMT
2-2 fair score or not?
Report wondersobright December 16, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
oh myyyyyyyyyyy
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Should have been 3-1 Murphy
Report Kriskin December 16, 2018 2:16 PM GMT
Murphy is making too many stupid mistakes.  Cannot continue this trend
Report crepello December 16, 2018 2:18 PM GMT
That was a difficult brown and yet Murphy played it dead weight - ridiculous choice ..... but he potted it.
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 2:20 PM GMT
Lower the price money and these crooks of players will learn to close out won frames. This is just a show, nothing more, they simply dont give a ****.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:46 PM GMT
That's cruel
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:51 PM GMT
Unbelievable
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 2:52 PM GMT
Same mistake again.
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 2:54 PM GMT
gift after gift. Every frame is a coinflip in the end.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 2:55 PM GMT
Gets away with another one
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 3:55 PM GMT
5-3 to Allen.  Very pleasing session for him given how the early frames went.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 6:49 PM GMT
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Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 7:00 PM GMT
Allen to romp it for me.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:02 PM GMT
1st frame massive for god!
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:06 PM GMT
Laugh what a fecking miss
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:10 PM GMT
bucket siad no sir!
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
Bring on the clowns.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:19 PM GMT
Laugh
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:20 PM GMT
mophee in massive trouble now
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 7:23 PM GMT
God can only recover if allen turns into bigger mug modus than he was early in the match.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 7:25 PM GMT
Shon Mugphy
Report doridoru December 16, 2018 7:25 PM GMT
BUCKETS REQUIRED!
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 7:25 PM GMT
Grin
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 7:51 PM GMT
God 3x promising break opportunity = 30 points...
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 7:52 PM GMT
Another one coming with probably 7 pts scored.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 8:11 PM GMT
Has Allen been out for a skin-full between sessions?
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 8:15 PM GMT
No idea what he is trying to do. Setting up long pots which he thinks are traps and hopes God misses but he keeps potting them.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 8:18 PM GMT
gods on fecking fire
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 8:24 PM GMT
That last frame was a proper break, the rest a cmplete mess with 4-5 chances needed/frame.
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 8:53 PM GMT
He wasn't even close to getting that into the middle!
Report thepunter December 16, 2018 8:54 PM GMT
Proper mugfest this.
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:25 PM GMT
my my my my WINONA!
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 9:26 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 9:26 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:32 PM GMT
Laugh
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:33 PM GMT
allen the champion after a week on the lash! wonder what bazza hearn has to say lol
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:34 PM GMT
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:34 PM GMT
omfg what a fluke
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 9:34 PM GMT
WOW
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 9:35 PM GMT
Clinical
Report doridoru December 16, 2018 9:35 PM GMT
WHAT DA FOOOK
Report Latalomne December 16, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
Is Mrs Allen wearing rubber trousers?!?  LoveLoveLove
Report GRANTCKING December 16, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
Laugh
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