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By:
gjohn101
When: 11 Oct 18 17:27
Never heard anything of the David John case or of the 2 Chinese guys since the news first broke. Was there a hearing or are they just permanently suspended?
By:
Latalomne
When: 12 Oct 18 11:15
It reads like John has grassed him up, TBH.  Not sure where the investigation is at.
By:
gjohn101
When: 12 Oct 18 13:48
Could be that alright. Or might be a case of tracing the source of certain betting accounts, wonder if this is the end of it.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 13 Oct 18 21:03
oh wow first im seeing of this
By:
gobelins
When: 01 Dec 18 09:37
From the BBC:

China's Yu Delu has been banned from snooker for 10 years and nine months after a major match-fixing inquiry.

His compatriot Cao Yupeng also pleaded guilty to fixing, and was banned for six years although three and a half years of his sentence are suspended.

Suspicious betting patterns in numerous matches were investigated over two years in one of the sport's biggest corruption scandals.

They are the first Chinese snooker players to be banned for cheating.

Yu, who manipulated the outcome of five matches over a two-and-a-half year period, will serve the longest suspension since English player Stephen Lee was given a 12-year ban in 2013.

The 31-year-old reached the semi-finals of the 2016 Scottish Open and was ranked 43 in the world when he was charged.

Cao, 28 - who fixed three different matches - was runner-up in the Scottish event last year and world number 38 when initially suspended in May.

Both players were investigated by the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association (WPBSA) before an independent tribunal ruled on their cases.

The tribunal, chaired by David Casement QC, found that Yu "engaged in deliberate and premeditated corruption to secure substantial financial gain for his friends/associates and himself."

He also admitted lying to the investigator, failing to cooperate with the inquiry and betting on snooker when prohibited from doing so.

"It is very sad when talented players are attracted to the opportunity to make money from fixing matches," said WPBSA chairman Jason Ferguson.
By:
gobelins
When: 01 Dec 18 09:46
I can't find anything about J.Jones on either the BBC or World Snooker website.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 01 Dec 18 11:02
yeh just saw that bbc article and came to post it
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 01 Dec 18 11:03
guess we can say its karma yupeng lost the final of the scottish last season
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Dec 18 13:14
Only just clocked this on the Beeb News!  Bang to rights, by the sounds of it!  Does make you wonder what else goes on, though....
By:
gjohn101
When: 01 Dec 18 13:17
Tip of the iceberg I’d say
By:
Pandoras
When: 01 Dec 18 20:24
The Jones case arose much later than the 2 Chinese players so I suspect we will either get a result in the Masters week or at the World Championships. They like to hide it when there is a major tournament on the horizon.

Obviously it is bad but a lot of these Chinese players have probably had a lot of sponsorship in their early days and had pressure put upon them.

It is an illusion that snooker is awash with money - most players struggle to make a decent living and it si a Hearn care for the rich only policy. There is far too much money for the top players and it drops off very quickly - the prizes for winners are way out of proportion to the other rounds. It will continue as long as this is the case.
By:
BornToWin
When: 02 Dec 18 19:19
The set up is more conducive to corruption than ever before.


Add in the amount of Orientals who as a race love punting more than any other, then what else is going to happen?
By:
jed.davison
When: 03 Dec 18 09:29
The game has always been crooked, and imo it's no more crooked now than it has been before.

A decade ago, virtually all those Championship League matches were got at, JH was chucking games long before the NOTW got to him, the list is endless.

Not sure it's the money involved, or the lack of it - human beings are corruptible, and snooker is a very straightforward game to fix.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 03 Dec 18 11:09
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46411743
By:
peckerdunne
When: 05 Dec 18 12:58
Dingaling,those who got away,Scot free.
By:
Latalomne
When: 05 Dec 18 14:17

Dec 3, 2018 -- 5:09AM, GRANTCKING wrote:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46411743


I'd assumed this was just the same bit again without checking.  Just happened upon it accidentally. 

Can't believe Cao fixed three matches for a poxy £5k a go!  How desperate would you have to be to do that???

By:
Pandoras
When: 06 Dec 18 11:42
Shows how hard it is away from Hearn's top 32 earners.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 06 Dec 18 12:44
yep
By:
Latalomne
When: 06 Dec 18 13:01
Just looked on cuetracker and his earning in the season 2015-16 were £18,225 with just one piece of prize money bigger than the £5k he got for nobbling matches.  It does indeed say a lot.
By:
jed.davison
When: 07 Dec 18 08:40
Quite eye-opening imo, as to the going rate.

5k to suborn a journeyman, £250k to suborn a multiple world champion.
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