We will freeze your council Tax

Why would anyone be surprised by an old school main stream politician lying to them? Why?

These people have no answers to the country's problem beyond tax and spend.

Innovate and change is beyond ****s like Starmer, Badenoch, Davy & Farage.

Tories were lamentable, but at least they did have the excuse of genuine crises to deal with.

This new lot have tanked themselves, and us, for no reason at all.

Well, they are Marxists. So, it's no good reason.

We live in a country where a 17 year old can knock up a passable shotgun licence in his bedroom then buy one in a car park and then, the next day, shoot his whole family and everybody just shrugs their shoulders.

Our politicians are so crap the electorate have given up.

The Marxists who are more conservative than the Conservatives

Your logic seems to have suffered from blunt force trauma after the cake eaters were despatched

Norbert, I'd say the issue is that a 17 yo wants wants to execute his family, then carried it out. Getting hold of a weapon is here or there, people will always be able to obtain an object that can easily kill people, if they are determined.

What is happening though is we are being gaslit about global issues that have no direct impact on peoples' everyday lives here. Meanwhile domestic State capacity is reaching new lows.

here's some delightful early morning viewing for you.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBtnTwoZwPk

Norbert, I'd say the issue is that a 17 yo wants wants to execute his family, then carried it out. Getting hold of a weapon is here or there, people will always be able to obtain an object that can easily kill people, if they are determined.

Cider shrugs his shoulders

That's not shrugging my shoulders. I'm stating that if you're moaning that he was able to get hold of a gun too easily, you're looking in the wrong place to find the underlying problem.

The fact that he wanted to execute his family, and carried it out, that was the problem.