Is America now two countries?

Yep, shutting out press, threatening universities, defunding anyone who criticises, deporting people without due process. All hallmarks of a functioning democracy.

Anyhoo, you missed my point


Populism leads to polarity. Complex problems give rise to easy solutions that mostly fall into "those guys are the problem". et ecce hic

PorcupineorPineapple 22 Mar 25 10:53 
populism baby.

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I'm quite sure it is rather the lack of populism. Treat your own as second class
for long enough and you get what we have now.

much of what he's done so far i don't recall being part of his campaign pledges e.g. pardoning those who attacked police officers and a drug-dealer enabler

So what 'complex' problems did sleepy Joe resolve. Staying upright ?

Let’s see what happens in court

Civil War is an entertaining film

Trump will carry on his 'reforms' of America until the Democrats gain power in one of the Houses.


But usually to win an election you need more than just a hatred of your opponent. You have to offer people hope.

Sales of purple hair dye and nose rings going through the roof.

"much of what he's done so far i don't recall being part of his campaign pledges e.g. pardoning those who attacked police officers and a drug-dealer enabler"
Pardoning the J6 hostages was a campaign pledge, as was the pardoning of Ross Ulbrict because he needed support from the Libertarians. Do you have any real examples of things he's done which were not expected?

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don't think he was clear about the scale of the pardons

over half a million died in the last American civil war

I think you will find it's the left who is being violent, blowing up Tesla dealers and swatting right wingers and they are only getting started.

Trump just directed the DOJ to attempt to disbar attorneys who take legal action against the executive branch while also indicating they will do the same to immigration attorneys.

Latest democracy news

Why shouldn't corrupt attorneys be disbarred? No one is above the law!!!!!

I'd like to see ours gone. Huge industry mainly devoted to keeping criminals here.
Paid for by taxpayers, of course.

A murder trial in the US, 5 days.

A murder trial in England, 5 weeks.

Reminded once again of how easily Hitler was given power

Nearly all of these divisions from economic deprivation.

In the US/UK it started with Regan and Thatchers "drip down economy" garbage. Probably the biggest mugging of the middle class in human history.
Utterly destroyed whole communities.

Recently the effects of the 2007/08 downturn created anti immigrant/tea party movements which suit political class perfectly to get the knuckle draggers blaming some poor immigrant whilst corporations hoard massive wealth and pay next to no tax.

With regards the OP, the US breaking up would be no bad thing.

I always wonder why people continually reference Hitler as if he was the last dictator in the world and democratic society was the norm after he lost power.

It's as if these people are ignorant of the fact that dictatorships are common in places like Asia, Africa and the Middle East or don't want to mention it for a particular reason.

Trump Hitler enabled the racists who are loud shouters
of support for their enablers

You see them on this forum, this thread even..

Where?

How are we ever going to rid the forum of all these imaginary racists?

Mar 22, 2025 -- 5:41PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:

I always wonder why people continually reference Hitler as if he was the last dictator in the world and democratic society was the norm after he lost power.It's as if these people are ignorant of the fact that dictatorships are common in places like Asia, Africa and the Middle East or don't want to mention it for a particular reason.

As a German I fully support the notion that Hitler (and along with it Nazi Germany's crimes) should be mentioned a lot less. Forgotten even.

Yeah, but Hitler and his playbook are part of historical record.

Trump repeating his actions play by play

The racists lapping it up.

There've been lots and lots worse dictators that everyone knows and is aware of. Right, Shrewd_dude?

Since after Hitler.

There've been lots and lots worse dictators that everyone knows and is aware of. Right, Shrewd_dude?

Certainly in living memory there has been other dictators we can talk about. We can also talk about current dictators as well.

Unfrortunately 'how Hamas got voted in' isn't as fashionable.

Lets not pretend you are stupid enough edy to think Trumpn is like Hitler.

Worse, yeah, if you can get worse than evil.

But less well known as they didn't yet start ww3

That was kid starver.

Trump and his imaginary Hitler playbook!!! When people go on about Trump being Hitler they sound mentally ill. What's wrong with them?

Mar 23, 2025 -- 12:07AM, Shrewd_dude wrote:

Lets not pretend you are stupid enough edy to think Trumpn is like Hitler.

I would never dream of pretending to be on your level.

That made me laugh.

That's why I wrote it. I'm a people pleaser.

Mar 23, 2025 -- 12:09AM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:

Trump and his imaginary Hitler playbook!!! When people go on about Trump being Hitler they sound mentally ill. What's wrong with them?

Please do not call the vice president of the USA mentally ill. It might come back around your way if you seek to enter the USA while he is in a high political office.

It's good to see he's not mentally ill any more.

Ha, I scared you good and now you very transparently walk back on it.

I am interested to see if Scotus stands by its ‘omage to the founding fathers or if they are corrupt and on the payroll

Ronaldmcdonald 22 Mar 25 23:09 
Trump and his imaginary Hitler playbook!!! When people go on about Trump being Hitler they sound mentally ill. What's wrong with them?


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It's easier to trot out jaded emotive soundbites than to form a rational argument.
I can't believe they are all mental, probably just lazy.

Trump going full Hamas doesn’t have the quite same ring to it and you might alienate their fans.

Mar 23, 2025 -- 12:50PM, saddo wrote:

Ronaldmcdonald 22 Mar 25 23:09

Emotive soundbites like narratives about wrecked continents?

It is a very different continent to 2014, it will never be the same again
and unless the decline is halted it will be wrecked. We've seen the peak
and are going down the other side.

Ah, suddenly it is not wrecked just yet?

Maybe be more intellectually rational instead of lazily emotive in the future.

Would also save you from repeatedly and without any lurning curve at all point fingers at supposed islamist terrorists ... that then turn out to not be very muslim.

*point fingers in a hurry and without any actual knowledge

Maybe sometimes the TDS bros trot out jaded emotive soundbites out of laziness but I think it's mostly mental illness.

Is anybody actually American on this forum ? Or live there even ? It would be interesting to know how the ordinary lads on the street feel about Trump and Putin or Washington and Kremlin love in.

Like when you yadda about WW3?

Ronald

The ordinary lads on the streets of America obviously feel very positively about Trump and his Russia peace policy, as was demonstrated by his overwhelming landslide victory. I spoke to an American doctor last week and he was very negative about Trump, but then he's not exactly the average guy on the street. The average guy on the street understands how retarded it is to hate Russia, and the Russian people have done nothing to deserve it. The world is clearly better off trading with Russia than provoking them into war, to do otherwise is completely retarded. Imagine the advances that could be made if we all worked together.

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
Meanwhile in Russia: emboldened by Donald Trump's stance and Steve Witkoff's rhetoric, Vladimir Solovyov predicts that Russia will form an alliance with the United States and jointly confront Europe.

https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1903620997510476061

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
Meanwhile in Russia: Vladimir Solovyov says that Trump gave Moscow an opportunity to prepare for a big war against Europe. Dmitry Drobnitsky points out that Trump's term is too short for Russia to carry out its plans, hoping that JD Vance will win in 2028.

https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1902934888749170703

Germany and all of Europe tried being super friendly to Russia and trading with them. Worked until Putin went with his imperialist conquest and tried to make Europeans freeze to death by him unilaterally and under pretenses stopping deliveries through Nordstream.

Solovyov? Is he like the Russian Tucker Carlson?

You mean Merkel really, peace through trade. How did that go?

No. Tucker is a private citizen. Solovyov is a direct state propagandist.

Mar 23, 2025 -- 2:26PM, saddo wrote:

You mean Merkel really, peace through trade. How did that go?

Started way before Merkel. As you will be very well aware, General change through trade was decades old by the time Merkel arrived. Nordstream was the project of Schröder. Merkel's project was Nordstream 2, which however never went into productive use.

She cosied up to the dictator Putin, but people castigate Trump for allegedly doing the same.
Trump told Germany not to trust Putin on live TV, they laughed.

Merkel as a natural scientist and Germany as a whole probably indeed had too much faith in Putin's very long alleged rationality and underestimated his emotive leaning towards imperialist, fascist conquest and war as a means for domestic legitimisation of his power.

But hey...others on here still doubted Putin would invade at all even in mid February 2022 because they thought the nasty media and USA were just lying about Russia again.

As for cosying up to Putin in 2012 vs cosying up to Putin 2025: I think when times change and parameters change one cosying up can be more acceptable than the other.

'Germany as a whole' did as she told them edy, she was rather dictatorish in manner.

Oh please tell us more about dictatorish Merkel.

Just like her dad.

Her dad was a man of God. They don't dictate anything. They just transport the dictatorish, fascist word of the ultra nasty, ultra narcissist dude upstairs.

It's not the fault of the people of God that God himself is just...very bad.

I mean her real dad.

Oh, God as the father of us all. Yeah, as I wrote. Proper dictator that and a real nasty one.

It could all be settled with a quick DNA test. Need to find out if she's got any funny mustache DNA.

Doesn't God have a real mighty full beard?

Never trust a man that hides their face behind a real long full beard. Never ever do. Trimmed full beard where you can still somewhat see the face - fine, but long beard...absolute no go and thoroughly untrustworthy.

Santa is definitely plotting something. Old dude that just gives children presents without wanting anything in return for the sake of being nice?

Yeah, right....

Some people say hundreds of children were fathered in Germany by the guy with the funny mustache.

Dude, the guy had one egg left, which probably wasn't even functioning well as he was a vegan soy boy.

I can see why the authorities wouldn't want people DNA tested. Can't have the world thinking the country is full of his descendants and they are not doing anything about it.

What should they be doing about it if it is known the country is full of his descendants?

There are many many things that could be done.

Which do you personally favour?

They could pay reparations.

All reparations have already been contractually settled and we is all good with everyone.

Anything else you favour?

All reparations have already been contractually settled for slavery but that doesn't stop AOC demanding it.

They could also do some services for the community.

A lot of them will probably be in employment and enrich the world with their high-quality products and services.

Did you know the "Made in Germany" seal that has widely become a seal of utmost quality was originally invented by the British as a means to tell people it was a product of lesser quality?

The only one I have heard of was Jean-Marie Loret who bore a striking resemblance even down to the mustache. I dare say there are countless others who daren't put their heads above the parapet. Of course Merkel wouldn't have been able to grow a moustache so we will never know about her.

You don't know German women if you seriously believe they have no ability to grow moustaches.

Mar 23, 2025 -- 2:41PM, edy wrote:

Oh please tell us more about dictatorish Merkel.

Nothing rational coming forward after your emotive statement, saddo?

I saw a picture of Loret and he had a framed photo of Adolf on the wall behind him. That must have been difficult to explain when the vicar came around for tea. I wonder if he had a secret room filled with Nazi memorabilia but he was oblivious to their significance like Father Fitzpatrick in that Father Ted episode where Ted keeps accidentally making himself look like a Nazi sympathizer.

The Loret story sounds very unlikely She was too old to be fancied by Hitler or any far-right personality at the time of the supposed impregnation by Hitler.

If she really was Loret's mother she would have been in her twenties when she had him.

Exactly, that's like at least double too old for far-righter.

He was far right? Very overused label.

You will get labelled far right even if all you want is a sensible immigration policy.

and the invasion of Poland.

And as we know from Putin, that invasion of Poland was really down to the intransigience of Poland.

#No1NaziUnderstander