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Get the plebs to fret about putting their cereal box in the right coloured bin while the ultra-rich are setting fire to the planet. Fool's game.

It certainly wasn't burning in Bucks this morning.

I think Eastern Europe and the Caucuses are seeing historic March records drop by pretty alarming amounts aren't they? Texas is seeing 100 degree temps already. North Africa broke through forty degrees the other day.


It's March.

Humans are too insignificant to influence climate or the "gases" in and properties of the atmosphere. Read the god damn bible and learn something, PorcupineorPineapple!

The planet's not 'on fire' then? Just the bits that are ordinarily hot on occasion.

How do the scientists say that existing deserts were formed on the planet? Where do they say we will see any new ones (I assume a burning planet is the ideal conditions)

I'd say a freezing planet are overall better conditions for forming deserts.

You're not a scientist [evidently]

What makes you say that?

Thanks.

Saves me having to wash my pot noodle box out tonight and stick it in the green bin.

Scientologist, maybe

Do you disagree with my statement, Cider?

Ordinarily

...but why?

I remember cider coming on and discussing climate a few months ago. IIRC he said he was going to read some piece and learn more. Need to find out if he did. One for tomorrow.

Do the Billionaires have the Heatpumps and Solar Panels ?

Like...look....

If the planet gets warmer..."burning"... there will be more evaporation and precipitation. Water doesn't just vanish. It comes down again. Now, of course if circulation systems want it so, that increased evaporation can lead to certain areas getting drier, possibly existing deserts expanding or new ones forming if the rain is carried elsewhere. But it's still going to overall rain....and in fact rain more overall. Some areas will also see desertifcation.

With a freezing planet you get yourself conditions where less evaporation happens, where the atmosphere can also hold (far) less moisture to begin with. Not exactly conditions that promote a whole lot of precipitation.  Having ice covers also is not generally advantageous for vegetation and stuff.

What's your counter argument among us two non-scientists, Cider?

No, but they tried heat pumps in the House of Commons until recently.
Had to take them out, too noisy and not enough heat being pumped.

Should clearly have bought a German engineered one.

*Some areas will also see de-desertifcation. As in...deserts becoming less deserty.

Isn't the biggest desert Antarctica?


Been a couple of months since my last pub quiz but think that still stands.

Yes, although people who are evidently not scientists and those who do not frequent pub quizzes might think deserts are exclusively super hot with fine sand everywhere.

Can we get get more middle class lefties to help out the billionaires the OP speaks about??

By pretending that there is no such thing as an anthropogenic greenhouse effect and hence their emissions not mattering?

I will try and answer a question by asking another convoluted question said someone.

Well, your initial question wasn't particularly precise in what kind of help you had in mind. Mine tried to find out some specifics. So what did you have in mind?

Not sure you know the meaning of the word convoluted btw.

Do the Billionaires have the Heatpumps and Solar Panels ?

Billionaires tend to be somewhat shrewd sometimes regarding financial decisions. Given that both heat pumps and solar panels are generally very shrewd long-term financial decisions one or two billionaires out there is bound to have invested in them. The upfront payments are probably not a big financial burden for most billionaires. Nor is the availability of suitable owned housing and grounds.

Mar 16, 2025 -- 10:56PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

I remember cider coming on and discussing climate a few months ago. IIRC he said he was going to read some piece and learn more. Need to find out if he did. One for tomorrow.

The Great Cidini evidently has no interest in having this circular discussion with you.

It's funny how he keeps going into threads showing off how very little he knows about certain topics and how thoroughly resistant he is to doing even the most basic research and gaining knowledge, but eventually remembers how completely uneducated he is on those topics, with no legit interest to research them anywhere in sight, and he does his Great Cidini act of not having imaginary, suspiciously loosely defined circular discussions.

Does this mean that a paltry millionaire's footprint is a thousand times bigger than Joe Bloggs

Yes , you would imagine all these rich Bods would have EVs the Best heat Pumps and Panels and all the Green stuff available  , seems not

thats left to Idiots with no money getting themselves into to thousands of pounds od Debt to save the Planet

while the  rich fly around the World and what ever else they are Doing , Wanting us to sacrifice for them

Charles Bampot has fires roaring in every room of his Palaces ,Pensioners unable to turn the Heating on covers that

Have you got Heatpumps and solar Panels EDY ?

Too poor and houseless.

Personal ownership, or lack thereof, does however not negate what I wrote about them often being shrewd financial decisions if have the facilities and monetary for the initial investment, casemoney. Or has your research led you to believe that this is wrong?

*if you have the facilities and monetary means

I dont think they give a flying foook Edy about saving a couple of hundred quid on Heating Bills  or if their Energy is Green or Not , I may be wrong  , but I doubt it

...So your research has led you to believe that the technologies you asked about are indeed shrewd financial decisions long-term...?

I have no interest in Research , I know people installed Solar panels and Saved fook all  , Panels covered in Bird Shyte and need replacing ,Their no for me tbh

btw...the study this thread is likely about included investments by the billionaires in polluting industries such as the fossil fuel industries.

https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/

Just jet setting around in private jets and whatnot apparently only gives them a carbon footprint in the thousands higher than the bottom 90% of humanity.

I have no interest in Research

You repeatedly giving me sentences like this will never cease to amaze me. What about...learning things and stuff?

Most people who want to Install Heat Pumps would need to replace their whole heating System , They may well be OK in New builds , but the Majority of Current housing Stock you will be a long time before you see any savings

An often overlooked point is that the sea is still at exactly the same height it was at millions of years ago. It was at sea level height then and still is now.

The sea should employ some Chinese students like Elon does to level it up so it can brag on twitch how 1337 it is.