Mental health conditions are overdiagnosed, Streeting says

If PTSD had been recognised in 1946, half of the male population would have been on benefits but they just had to get on with it. The Country CANNOT AFFORD the current level of benefits.

Looking at the Chart on the Other Thread is quite obvious where our Major problems are ,Certain Communities have no Interest in Working 

Perhaps target them , then move on to the Mentally Ill

we also have Hundreds arriving monthly Who will add to the Long term unemployed

they will all be diagnosed with stress after an illegal boat crossing which will entitle them to more.

I would like to know the Percetion of Benefits that are being paid in London , Housing Benefit must be a massive figure

percentage

That's why they are shoving them oop North as fast as possible.

Without being disrespectful to sufferers of mental health I'd agree with the Health Secretary it'd been over-diagnosed. It's very difficult to disprove by benefit agencies, and costly too. And, the clinicians are so petrified of being sued for negligence and recklessness eg many cases of misdiagnosis then public media vilification.

Under diagnosed more like,autism has been missed f0r decades which leads to all sorts of mental illness and an horrendous life fir many and mental healr services are non existent..Another load of made up cr@p from Streetng..

Certain Communities have no Interest in Working

Perhaps target them , then move on to the Mentally Ill


Take that sensible approach and they'll basically kill two bird with stone.

The UK is an easy target for potential immigrants. The most is the passage here for some. Once in the state will facilitate to smooth out the transition eg subsidised living, free education, free NHS, etc, etc, etc. All these whilst their application for asylum is being process. Amd , this could take years.

Do countries like China, Japan, Russia, Singapore, USA, EU member states eg Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Australia, New Zealand, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and even India offer this hospitality? Nope. UK Plac is being taken advantage of, and abused. Our rule of laws and respect for others, etc, are being eroded and replaced with those from their country of origin eg corruption, blatant dishonesty, bribery and deception, political anarchy, economic and social disharmony, etc. These are already happening more so in some towns and regions of the UK.

I think we have taken advantage of all those countries for hundreds of years. Ed rubbed them and continue to do so. Now they are all robbing us

I think we have taken advantage of all those countries for hundreds of years. Ed rubbed them and continue to do so. Now they are all robbing us

Hundreds of years ago this country was getting invaded, absolutely and utterly irrelevant today. You can bend and suck it up,
others will resist and fight, there is a choice.

Yeah

The migrants have made their choice. There are invading just like we did and our ancestors from Africa!

Does your hair go curly in the rain saddo?

How much of the current mental well being issues stem from the internet's image based society that youngsters now live their lives in ?

Has Streeting got any evidence for this major scientific claim and breakthrough?

I think Wes Streeting is right. What I volunteered in that field, what surprised me was how many people positively hankered for a diagnosis and a label, as a kind of validation for the way they felt and behaved rather than access to treatment, which tended to be ongoing and unending. Rather than a path out of mental illness, diagnosis was a path in to a safe place where the condition and its treatment became an outside responsibility.

the problem is there are many people who simply would not cope with work and the pressures to find it. you might say so what that's their problem but it's a kind of ugly compromise to give them a basic income to stop them becoming a greater problem to society e.g. homelessness, increased attendance at a&e, public disorder, etc.

it's a first world problem - many people with diagnosed mh conditions and pip would see their counterparts in developing countries getting no help and attention whatsoever - where the goal is just surviving

personality disorders in particular - they don't really exist in poor countries

Why should a junkie or alcoholic get PIP, that benefit is only fueling the fire and not helping them get clean.

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the problem is there are many people who simply would not cope with work and the pressures to find it. you might say so what that's their problem but it's a kind of ugly compromise to give them a basic income to stop them becoming a greater problem to society e.g. homelessness, increased attendance at a&e, public disorder, etc.

it's a first world problem - many people with diagnosed mh conditions and pip would see their counterparts in developing countries getting no help and attention whatsoever - where the goal is just surviving..

Yep exactly this,so many people cannot simply cope with everyday life,of course the low IQ idiots don't get it,thats why 300,000 estimate git killed under Ian Duncam Smith,this will be even worse.Some imbecilic pen pusher saying fit for work.It's similar with autism my son was diagnosed about 6 years of age,he still has no friends and used to get upset at school fir no reason,tit took them a few years to completeky diagnose him..When you know the traits it's become more obvious as he's git older,still has no friends but gt help at school he gets a room to go off quietly at lunch time where he can use a computer as he hates loud noises,he's now a lot happier and doing quite well at scjool..If he'd been left like the good old days,he wouldv'e gone through the system not passed any exams,been put in a low paying job and in time wouldv'e become unemployable..Probably had a break down then mental health issues,it wouldv'e been inevitable and he's on the lower end of the spectrum..There are hundreds of thiusands far worse than him,that will be in that position..

I acknowledge there are sufferers of mental health and chronic fatigue. I wish them well, and have access to the right treatment and understanding from clinicians. And, I'd not like to be one at any price. However, there are also many mental health pretenders who've derived from social media during Covid. Now mental health is being used to access job seeker and disability benefits.

I honestly believe these fraudsters need to be challenged vigorously and made to do paid employment or social activity eg assisting at soup kitchens, painting public railings and lamp posts, clearing litter by litter louts on streets and grassland, etc. These fraudsters must be made to earn any benefit as a future deterrent.

As for certain work-shy communities just name and shame eg make public what percentage as compare to other communities, etc. UK Plc is just too soft, and being abused and taken advantage of.

Why should a junkie or alcoholic get PIP, that benefit is only fueling the fire and not helping them get clean.

To get pip they are likely to need to be under a substance misuse service so in theory at least trying to beat their addictions. The alternative is leaving them to steal to feed their habits. It's all about controlling society

The other problem is that once someone has been diagnosed - as was thegiggolo's son, early in life - even if that person wants to come off the dependency train, it is unlikely their family of doctor will take on the responsibility of signing them off. Let alone a review body. So they go through life with a dependency pass. And life is long.

The better health support we all receive the more ailments that will be diagnosed , and the longer we all will live, ever increasing the pressure on support services and the public purse.

A_T there are loads who have been on PIP for years and years and they are not under any substance misuse service.

There must have been industrial scale gaming of the system for Streeting to make that announcement. A related trend would be the plague of "whiplash claims" on the motor insurance industry.

Although the costs are much greater to fund a lifetime on benefits.

Streeting sounding very Nazi like, is he qualified in mental health? See ya

Streeting is an absolute scumbag,we can see by reading the sh1t on here why they do it,to get the simple minded wanting benefut cuts he is absolutely vile person,a complete fraud and ****..

I feel sad for the genuine mental health sufferers who will get caught in the net, and there will be many who will take the only way out.

The squealing and squawking is hardly surprising if there's even a whiff of the handout train being slowed down. That's when the personal abuse kicks in, no doubt why politicians usually bottle it for an easier life.

Agreed about those genuinely needing help

The whole problem is sorting out those who genuinely need help from those that don't need as much help as they are getting.

And that's always been the problem. Unfortunately, the cost of properly weeding out the cheats - the spying and following, the man hours involved in building the case, then going through appeals etc - far outweigh the savings made from catching the perp out. It's not great, but it's more cost effective to not do it.

Until that is amended any government is just shouting into the void.

Not really PP

GP's are just saying you you have anxiety or ADHD and the benefits agencies are paying out.

I hard a girl on tv this morning saying she could not take buses so had to use Ubers WTF! PIP!

The system is wrong along with that that allowed civil servants credit cards to buy shoes or foot ware in the Caribbean for £2,500. Who checks these? How can Inland revenue allow these as deductibles? Do they? Why do so many civil servants need credit cards and why isn't the spending checked?