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The Sentencing Council for England and Wales in 2025 consists of 14 members, including judicial and non-judicial representatives. Below is a list of known current members:

Judicial Members
Lord Justice William Davis (Chairman) – Appointed as Chair in August 2022, he is a Court of Appeal judge with extensive experience in criminal law35.

Lord Justice Tim Holroyde – Vice-President of the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) and a long-serving judicial member since 20153.

Jo King JP – Magistrate member, serving since October 2020, with leadership roles in the magistracy3.

Non-Judicial Members
Rob Nixon – Appointed as the policing representative for three years from December 20233.

Stephen Parkinson – Director of Public Prosecutions, joined the Council in November 20233.

Johanna Robinson – Appointed in October 2023 with responsibility for promoting victims' welfare3.

Beverley Thompson OBE – Expert in offender rehabilitation, serving since June 20183.

Dr Elaine Freer – Barrister and academic, appointed in July 2022 for a term ending June 202513.

While these are the confirmed members, the Council includes additional judicial and non-judicial members whose specific identities are not detailed in the provided results. Judicial appointments are made by the Lord Chief Justice, while non-judicial members are appointed by the Lord Chancellor
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Report metro john March 5, 2025 6:39 PM GMT
From April 1st, if you are White British you will be more likely to be sentenced than non White or Minority Groups. Those responsible I have named above.
Report metro john March 5, 2025 6:40 PM GMT
https://youtu.be/SzBYBJvqY-o?si=ktTCi9FLIg3wG3eu
Report metro john March 5, 2025 6:46 PM GMT
This is not a Labour thing this is a racist attack on White people, and those who put this forward should resign.
Report metro john March 5, 2025 7:40 PM GMT
People seemingly slow on the uptake of this one. Top of the charts come 2moz.Laugh
Report saddo March 6, 2025 1:08 PM GMT
I think it's already begun mj. Two migrant rapists, who also filmed the attack, were given
7 years each in Liverpool last month, they'll be out in 3.
Report alun2005 March 6, 2025 1:26 PM GMT
Yes, looks like TWO TIER JUSTICE/SENTENCING is to be formally enshrined in law. It more or less has been informally implemented of course.


Whether "ethnic minority" treatment also applies to White people in the many Culturally-Enriched/Majority Non-White  parts of Britain is another matter.


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https://order-order.com/2025/03/05/row-erupts-as-new-rules-ease-imprisonments-for-ethnic-cultural-or-faith-minorities/
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 6, 2025 1:32 PM GMT
One of those where the perception is probably more important than the practical.


The point of the guidelines is trying to address the inequality that sees black and ethnic minority accused getting longer sentences than white people for the same crimes. In trying to solve that they come out with this gobbledegook. As the guy says, the reality is that it probably won't make any real material difference but it just looks bad. Hence you've had politicians from both sides of the aisle come out against it.
Report saddo March 6, 2025 3:12 PM GMT
It's not just colour is it. Christians are supposed to get more time than non Christians as it stands.
Unbelievable mess really, already known as two tier Kier and now this.
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 6, 2025 3:14 PM GMT
Well they've made a dog's dinner of it, but the point is actually that Christians get lighter sentences than non-Christians. This is trying to address that.
Report saddo March 6, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
Liverpool rapists got 7 years, you think white people or Christians might have got 6?
Report the old nanny ;-) March 6, 2025 3:20 PM GMT
Surely the Move for white  male Criminals is to Pretend they are a Woman when attending Court ,or Perhaps a conversion from the Christian faith 

Not sue why or How someones faith should be brought up at a Trial , Unless its Terror  and faith related
Report the old nanny ;-) March 6, 2025 3:22 PM GMT
All very Strange TBH , and it is also inflamatory
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 6, 2025 3:48 PM GMT

Mar 6, 2025 -- 3:19PM, saddo wrote:


Liverpool rapists got 7 years, you think white people or Christians might have got 6?


Well the evidence says yes. At least when you step back and look at the data, and not just base it on one case.

Report Cider March 6, 2025 7:01 PM GMT
The prison population is 96% male.

The discrimination against men is quite unbelievable. Much lower sentences are needed, along with longer sentences for women Plain
Report Cider March 6, 2025 7:03 PM GMT
It's obviously an effort from the establishment to formalise what's already tacitly going on.
Report metro john March 6, 2025 7:04 PM GMT
An attempt to manipulate the crime figures is most likely.
Report Cider March 6, 2025 7:08 PM GMT
It's consistent with their ideology, white privilege and 'minority' oppression. As I state, it's already tacitly happened, but they couldn't get away with formalising it under a Tory gvnt. Tories just looked the other way.
Report jollyswagman March 7, 2025 8:44 AM GMT
the secret barrister covers this as does the peerless joshua rozenberg in his substack. as usual, this is much ado about nothing. just more confected outrage from people stoking culture war nonsense for political gain.


https://bsky.app/profile/barristersecret.bsky.social/post/3ljrjck42lk2i

https://rozenberg.substack.com/p/sense-in-sentencing‪The Secret Barrister‬ ‪@barristersecret.bsky.social‬

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The rather boring fact is that, whether or not you agree that courts (unrepresentative of society) would benefit from more information about offenders from underrepresented groups before passing sentence, both Mahmood and Jenrick had the opportunity to take part in the consultation. And they didn’t.

As Joshua says - all that the Guideline emphasises is the need to obtain information, in the form of a Pre-Sentence Report. It categorically does not (contrary to The Times’ hysteria today) demand “softer sentencing for minorities”.
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2025 8:56 AM GMT
We have already have a multi tiered justice system

More fake outrage from the usual suspects out to sow discord having nothing better to do in their lives.
Report tobermory March 7, 2025 9:54 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2025 -- 1:32PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


One of those where the perception is probably more important than the practical.The point of the guidelines is trying to address the inequality that sees black and ethnic minority accused getting longer sentences than white people for the same crimes. In trying to solve that they come out with this gobbledegook. As the guy says, the reality is that it probably won't make any real material difference but it just looks bad. Hence you've had politicians from both sides of the aisle come out against it.


What evidence is there that non whites get longer sentences for the same crimes if they make the same pleas?

Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2025 10:14 AM GMT
We have seen enough EVIDENCE of the two tier justice system in this country

Gulidford 4, Birmingham 6 and hundreds of cases like The Oval 4, the Stockwell 6 all convicted of crimes because of bent policemen

Did Andrew Tate, a Muslim, groom Kyle Clifford?

C’mon nanny, you are back in the ball game. Call for a National Enquiry!
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2025 10:15 AM GMT
To es

On whites and Irish got sentences even though they were not guilty.
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 7, 2025 10:26 AM GMT
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022/statistics-on-ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022-html#offender-characteristics



for tobes
Report tobermory March 13, 2025 12:51 AM GMT
^
That really doesn't seem to control for difference in severity of offences, whether they pleaded guilty or not, whether 1st offence or not....

So not much evidence of anything really.

The one table that is fairly specific on the offence 'Possession of a controlled drug - Class B (cannabis)' gives imprisonment figures of 17% black and 16% white.

So hardly much evidence of huge disparity there, but that table also says 53% of people of Chinese ethnicity are put in prison for that! Which makes me doubt the quality of the data altogether.

Other data seems too vague 'Assault of an emergency worker' which could mean anything between a shove and knocking someone out cold.
Report Cider March 13, 2025 3:10 PM GMT
Put up the government stats and then we can analyse the official ones.
Report metro john March 13, 2025 3:58 PM GMT
Black jobs matter NHS is another public racism.
Report metro john March 13, 2025 4:04 PM GMT
With this kind of racism taking place in the NHS and Courts, and the outward lies from a Tory government about immigration, how is it possible to believe these lies from any of the mainstream political servants of the elite illiterate. They have taken away a realistic retirement age, they now want to reduce benefits and reduce staff at NHS yet it is too much for them to consider taxing themselves? yes
Report metro john March 13, 2025 4:07 PM GMT
Do they really think the poor have the same mindset for the establishments obvious biases against the poor?
Report metro john March 13, 2025 4:08 PM GMT
Some do by the looks of things, well those that do will soon appreciate their fall from  grace (poor to much poorer).
Report metro john March 13, 2025 4:13 PM GMT
They need your taxes to fund Weapons that they say they have not got?? Fiddles big time been going on, where are our Nuclear Weapons? Why do they need US Nuclear weapons in Poland if they have been paying for Poland's own Nuclear weapons?? They should do an audit on the UK weapons and Nuclear Weapons, me thinks they have been spending your money elsewhere over the last 50 years???
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