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Mexico
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Terrorists have stopped using mobile phones as worried they will be tracked.

Hardly the most intelligent move, seems like that plan has literally gone up in smoke.
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Report irishone September 17, 2024 8:42 PM BST
easy to say after tbe event

giving terrorists a taste of their own medicine ?
Report the old nanny ;-) September 17, 2024 8:58 PM BST
shame they could not have done this with Hamas , would have saved a lot of Lives
Report dustybin September 17, 2024 8:59 PM BST
Mossad absolutely toying with em
Exploding pagers, blimey.
I’ve always said it, if Mossad want you dead you dead. Pulling their enemies trousers down and rearranging the furniture in their flats for 5hits and giggles
Report dustybin September 17, 2024 9:04 PM BST
I didn’t realise until today that Israel saved sinwar’s life by removing a brain tumour….now sinwar is Hamas leader and Israel will soon kill him
Report irishone September 17, 2024 9:06 PM BST
The pagers exploded in southern Lebanon, the southern suburbs of Beirut known as Dahiyeh and the eastern Bekaa Valley - all Hezbollah strongholds.
In one instance, closed-circuit surveillance video carried by regional broadcasters showed a person paying at a grocery store as what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to the cashier exploded.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" for the group in nearly a year of conflict with Israel.
Report thegiggilo September 17, 2024 10:07 PM BST
The sick evilness of these nazi ****s,the most evil society in the world..
Report Shrewd_dude September 17, 2024 10:11 PM BST
Getting their bollocks blown off by a device first invented to be used at a Jewish Hospital.

How ironic.
Report leif September 17, 2024 11:43 PM BST
Did they not have a VPNMischief
Report dustybin September 18, 2024 5:49 AM BST
Exploding pagers
It’s so audacious, the enemy carrying around Israeli bombs in their pockets ready to be detonated at leisure.
The two sides are leagues apart.
Report irishone September 18, 2024 7:52 AM BST
The Muslim community now terrified of pagers

What goes around comes around ...I wont be buying one either
Report irishone September 18, 2024 8:21 AM BST
Labels can be seen on the fragments which would ordinarily show the distributor, model number and operating frequency of the pagers - but because they’re damaged, the information that remains is incomplete.

What can be seen clearly is the word "GOLD" on both fragments, and a partial model number that looks like "AR-9" or possibly "AP-9".

One of the images appears to show a "USB - C" port, its plastic cover peeled back. Three decorative grooves can also been seen.

These indicators seem to point to a model called the Rugged Pager AR-924, made by the Taiwan-based Gold Apollo Company Ltd.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 18, 2024 8:24 AM BST
Throws some light on the laughable idea that they had no choice but to blow up schools and hospitals to get at a couple of Hamas fighters doesn't it.
Report dustybin September 18, 2024 8:37 AM BST
When all you do is 5hit in a bucket living on tinned food getting more ashen by the day living underground the assassination options are somewhat limited.
Report irishone September 18, 2024 8:38 AM BST
Massive demand in Lebanon for Carrier pigeons now
Report Shrewd_dude September 18, 2024 9:18 AM BST
Hamas would probably have had a group of five year olds holding their pagers for them to avoid this sort of thing happening.
Report spyker September 18, 2024 10:43 AM BST
This takes more than year to plan and execute - this is years in the making. In other words while all the negotiations of the past few years were going on, agreeing  to this and that (lying) Israel was planning this.  You lot still think the 'invasion' in Oct wasn't known about by Isreal and they  allowed it to happen, sacrificing their own innocents? Those gates just happened to be empty long enough to be bulldozed?
Good god it looks like they planned the whole thing. This operation marks the beginning of the end of Israel. How do you know they haven't done it to your new phone from the same Taiwan factory or that 1 of the pagers hasn't ended up in the UK (or on holiday) and explodes when you are next to it? I'm damn sure Isreal has no idea and zero care!
Report spyker September 18, 2024 10:46 AM BST
It was a Euro factory so I hope no nhs doctors have any of these pagers while you are joining all the other old people in hospital!
Report irishone September 18, 2024 10:52 AM BST
"spyker • September 18, 2024 10:43 AM BST
This takes more than year to plan and execute - this is years in the making"


When it comes to crime...there is no time like the present

Your opening sentence is therefore flawed
Report dave1357 September 18, 2024 10:57 AM BST
spyker • September 18, 2024 10:46 AM BST
It was a Euro factory


yes, so a terrorist facility in europe, presumably ready to supply devices to the highest bidder - maybe NK or ISIS?
Report spyker September 18, 2024 11:22 AM BST
Imagine the panic if this was an Isis plot successfully carried out - people would be smashing their phones as we speak! I'd be surprised if none make it to the general public as it's very easy for a box to go missing at some point in the chain and Isreal obv can't guarantee it hasn't. The manufacturer will go bust as well as no-one will ever but anything from them - it could be very very expensive for Isreal!
Report Mexico September 18, 2024 11:34 AM BST
Lol spy…

could be very very expensive for Isreal!


Yep for sure. What a victory for Hezbollah and total defeat for Israel.

Meanwhile hospitals are filling up with terrorists missing a few fingers or the odd testicle. A masterclass from Hezbollah.
Report dave1357 September 18, 2024 12:10 PM BST
Aparently a hungarian company in the frame for manufacturing the bombs. ISIS and Al Qaida intermediaries in negotiations as we speak.
Report Shrewd_dude September 18, 2024 12:21 PM BST
Yeah watch out for exploding tamagotchis or Sony Walkmans if you get one as a gift this Christmas.
Report spyker September 18, 2024 1:15 PM BST
A masterclass from Hezbollah.

Doesn't mean it is one for Isreal - again I ask how would you lot be reacting if this was an isis plot of blowing up diplomats phones etc, successful or not? Imagine all those sleeper immigrant terrortists now working in factories putting this stuff in phones/tv's as we speak - if they didn't have the idea before thy definitely will now. I don't know how you right wing paranoia merchants are going to survive the next few weeks.
If you genuinely think this is anything other than a very very short term win for Isreal then think again - unless they invade Lebanon in the next few days of course and we have a full scale war -then its a lose lose for everyone.
Report Steve Voltage September 18, 2024 1:35 PM BST
At first I thought they were the victim, then I thought they were the victim and the bully and now I see they are just the bully.
Report Slicer September 18, 2024 1:38 PM BST
What a security failure for the terrorist Haznoboolox. My heart bleeds for them. Or rather their hearts are bleeding for me. On to the real issues of the day, sussing out the triers. Good luck all.

Reproduced from the horse racing forum by kind permission of Dr Slicer.
Report A_T September 18, 2024 2:42 PM BST
cunning stuff from the mossad - sounds like the hungarian company was just a front
Report breadnbutter September 18, 2024 3:23 PM BST
Bad batch of fake  lithuim batteries, oh deer how sad never mind
Report spyker September 18, 2024 3:46 PM BST
Walkie talikies now exploding, only a matter of time before 1 ends up exploding and killing someone nice in a nice country innit? If they can do this here they can do it to anyone, anywhere at anytime and they have demonstrated they will. If that doesn't at least make you think then fair enough carry on being right wing sheeple and follow the continued stream of bs.
No government of any creed or political leaning should be dong this sort of thing and the fact they have should worry everyone. Good god the US only wants Isreal to exist so they can all ascend to heaven at the end of days which can only happen (according to the crazy Christian fundas maga lot) if Jews occupy Temple Mount where Jesus ascended and Mo rode his flying horse to heaven. In other words all bull sheet!
Report Mexico September 18, 2024 3:58 PM BST
Fair play spy.

You have finally admitted you are racist and proud of it.
Must be a relief to get that rant off your chest after all those coded dog whistle messages of “Zionists “ .

You actually believe everybody should be scared of using 1990s technology because a few terrorists were hurt.
Oh those poor terrorists going about their business with a pager.
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:01 PM BST
British-educated boss of Hungarian firm accused of making pagers that exploded wounding hundreds of Hezbollah fighters as she denies producing gadgets and insists she is 'just the intermediary'
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:02 PM BST
The glamorous CEO of a company accused of manufacturing the exploding pagers that killed 12 people and injured thousands in one of the most audacious attacks ever launched by Israel on Hezbollah has been pictured.

Cristiana Bársony-Arcidiacono, who studied in London and lists 'disaster management' as one of her skills, is listed as the Chief Executive of the Hungarian-based company BAC Consulting said to have supplied the devices to the Lebanese group.

She has denied any involvement with the pagers and told a US TV station:' I don't make the pagers. I am just the intermediate. I think you got it wrong.'
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:14 PM BST
Todger - Over and out
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:15 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:15 PM BST
disaster management' as one of her skills

dear me
Report Aspro September 18, 2024 4:16 PM BST
I have that skill in the kitchen
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:18 PM BST
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:20 PM BST
Hezbollah’s communications catastrophically damaged    BBC

imagine the state of paranoia , anything electrical could be a bomb
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:21 PM BST
its not paranoia mate

its terrorism ..... and its the best way to deal with it
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:24 PM BST
A security source now tells Reuters that hand-held radios have been targeted in the latest attacks in Lebanon.

A source also says Hezbollah bought the radios five months ago, at the same time as the pagers that exploded yesterday.

Would anyone with an Ounce of sense be using those Radios ?

4 guys from yesterday being Buried and walkie takies blowing up at the funeral
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:24 PM BST
A security source now tells Reuters that hand-held radios have been targeted in the latest attacks in Lebanon.

A source also says Hezbollah bought the radios five months ago, at the same time as the pagers that exploded yesterday.

Would anyone with an Ounce of sense be using those Radios ?

4 guys from yesterday being Buried and walkie takies blowing up at the funeral
Report irishone September 18, 2024 4:25 PM BST
The Wokes will be out in force tonight
Report the old nanny ;-) September 18, 2024 4:26 PM BST
i was just going to do a Slice of Toast , I will be approaching the toaster cautiously
Report Shrewd_dude September 18, 2024 5:59 PM BST
It's true what Spyker says. I think I'll finally need to take the old VHS to the tip this weekend now just to be on the safe side.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! September 18, 2024 7:28 PM BST
Car batteries made in CHINA
will be the next TARGET
Silly
Report sageform September 19, 2024 8:16 AM BST
As a way to identify the terrorists it was a triumph, but why did they have to be designed to maim people and blow their eyes out? And of course huge collateral damage. I want to help Israel defend itself but surely it would be more effective to use this technology to identify and take out the terrorists without injuring thousands of civilians which once again alienates "neutrals" who see how Israel behaves?
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 19, 2024 9:22 AM BST
The maiming rather than killing is deliberate. Similar to landmines. There is a quote from someone high up in the Israeli system that I'll try to find, but it's basically that they prefer these people (and obviously it's not just the targets but those within range too) to be a drain on their enemies' resources for decades to come rather than just killing them.
Report Shrewd_dude September 19, 2024 9:35 AM BST
surely it would be more effective to use this technology to identify and take out the terrorists

The explosive technology? I'm not sure covering terrorists in an explosion of permanent blue dye is going to help them take out these terrorists.
Report sageform September 19, 2024 9:54 AM BST
So do Israelis seriously believe that public support in the west will not be seriously damaged by this? I did not mean blue paint. Surely if you can put explosive in a pager you can also put a tracker allowing satellite surveillance 24 hours a day? Then you can detonate them when they are in a meeting with other terrorists or at least away from civilians?
Report Shrewd_dude September 19, 2024 10:37 AM BST
The whole reason Hezbolloh decided to use pagers was because they are harder to track than mobile phones.

So clearly they didn't have the choice to have the best of both worlds of having an easily trackable but also exploding device being carried around in the terrorists pockets.
Report spyker September 19, 2024 11:47 AM BST
You have finally admitted you are racist and proud of it.


Where's the racism - i don't mention any 'race' in the post - I mention religion which is totally different. I criticise all Abramaic religions and rightly so as they knicked all their good ideas off Zoroastrianism and added loads of bad ones. The bible wouldn't have been written without the Jewish eixle of 587 bc - Judaism went there (Iraq/Iran) a mess and came back an organised religion with a written bible. Zorastriansm originated in Iran btw.
Report dustybin September 19, 2024 11:48 AM BST
I’m pretty sure if Mossad went to the effort of intercepting the devices and loading them with explosives, they’d also have added a feature that would have sent them all the information from each device to build up more intelligence as a going concern.

There is only 1 supporter of Israel that matters and that’s US. They will never stop supporting them. There have been brief episodes in the past where they delayed shipments of tanks for eg….and so Israel developed its own, reportedly to now be one of the best tanks in the world, and the US went back to supplying everything else.

Sam Harris put it best recently in a podcast when he said, imagine if America or Canada offered the Jews a new state of Israel within one of those countries, what would the effect be in the Middle East? , would it become peaceful? He then speculated that it wouldn’t, and would instead embolden the terrorists into the next stage of their mission.
Report unitedbiscuits September 19, 2024 1:01 PM BST
Wait. How do we know Israel is guilty? It hasn't confirmed its involvement. And it may not be murder, it may be manslaughter. Let's not rush to judgement.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 19, 2024 5:51 PM BST
"Fatima was in the kitchen on Tuesday when a pager on the table began to beep, her aunt said. She picked up the device to bring it to her father and was holding it when it exploded, mangling her face and leaving the room covered in blood, she said."
Report unitedbiscuits September 19, 2024 5:57 PM BST
Careful. Dustybin's meat-beater meter is already tilting to excess.
Report layingisthewayforward September 19, 2024 6:53 PM BST
I thought they stopped making pagers in the 80's.
Report Shrewd_dude September 19, 2024 10:30 PM BST
Turns out you can still sell sand to the Arabs.

Just as well they hadn't just discovered ghetto blasters.
Report thegiggilo September 20, 2024 4:48 AM BST
9/11 It was pure genius by Israeli standards,terrorism is now cool apparently..
Report dustybin September 20, 2024 5:02 AM BST
Hezbollah killed 12 children in Israel recently, 8000 rockets apparently have been fired by Hezbollah since they purposefully started firing on the 8th Oct in solidarity with Hamas.
Seemingly these rockets have child avoiding technologies as they get fired indiscriminately into Israel?
Clearly doesn’t work.
It seems obvious Israel want Hezbollah thinning out and how’s the time to do it with their communications in disarray.
Report dustybin September 20, 2024 5:16 AM BST
More than 3 times as many casualties in Sudan and impending famine where potentially millions will die.
For those who seem to selectively trade in children casualties, that’s 355,000 dying children of starvation right now.
But Israel not involved so the bbc don’t tell you anything about that (at least not during the day, they just tell you about the conduct of the IDF in singular cases)
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 20, 2024 9:02 AM BST
I don’t know about you but I find the idea of a nation state blowing up pagers and mobile phones, anywhere in the world they see fit, breaking international law, injuring literally thousands of innocent people pretty concerning. Other people seem really keen to keep talking about it as a scene from James Bond as if the thousands of people who have been mutilated are just extras in a movie.
Report irishone September 20, 2024 9:22 AM BST
Which nation state blew up mobile phones ?

Dont be a plonker all yer life Rodney !
Report irishone September 20, 2024 9:25 AM BST
I don’t know about you but I find the idea of a nation state that hosts terrorists taking hostages from a public event killing them and others in their neighbours country, breaking international law, injuring literally thousands of innocent people pretty concerning. Other people seem really keen to avoid talking about it as a scene from James Bond as if the hundreds of people who have been hijacked, held hostage or killed are just extras in a movie.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 20, 2024 9:44 AM BST
What public event?
Report the fink sisters September 20, 2024 12:47 PM BST
Apparently Hezbollah have advised their female operatives to shut down their vibrators for a few months.

What's really concerning though, is that this sort of weaponry will inevitably be more widely available. I don't fancy a flight any time soon myself....
Report irishone September 20, 2024 1:01 PM BST

PorcupineorPineapple20 Sep 24 09:44
What public event?


364 civilians were killed and many more wounded while attending the Nova music festival. On 7 October 2023, the Islamic Palestinian nationalist militant group Hamas initiated a sudden attack on Israel from the Gaza Strip. As part of the attack, 364 civilians were murdered and many more wounded, raped and tortured by Hamas at the Supernova Sukkot Gathering, an open-air music festival during the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret near kibbutz Re'im. Hamas also took 40 people hostage

Has this been wiped from your memory Porky ?
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 20, 2024 1:27 PM BST
Yeah, thought you meant that.



So maybe I should take this moment to remind you that that was Hamas, not Hezbollah.
Report irishone September 21, 2024 7:36 AM BST
Never said it was Hezbollah did I ?
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 21, 2024 9:54 AM BST
Laugh
Report dave1357 September 21, 2024 1:35 PM BST
the fink sisters • September 20, 2024 12:47 PM BST

What's really concerning though, is that this sort of weaponry will inevitably be more widely available. I don't fancy a flight any time soon myself.


Yes indeed, it is certainly possible that some of the devices didn't detonate and have now been defused and are being examined by terrorist groups.
Report Shrewd_dude September 21, 2024 2:39 PM BST
All those blokes wondering whether to take their pager and their Sony Discman to work.
Report the old nanny ;-) September 21, 2024 3:36 PM BST
Is there any difference between Hezbollah and Hamas , bar country of Origin

They all hate Israel is the Vibe I get
Report irishone September 21, 2024 4:12 PM BST
exactly
Report dave1357 September 21, 2024 4:35 PM BST
Shrewd_dude • September 21, 2024 2:39 PM BST
All those blokes wondering whether to take their pager and their Sony Discman to work.


You keep repeating similar nonsense. Do you seriously not understand that this tech could be applied to any personal electronic equipment?
Report Shrewd_dude September 21, 2024 5:08 PM BST
What tech? Putting explosives in technology that was out of date 30 years ago.

You keep repeating the same nonsense Dopey. This is shoe bomber type stuff. Only an idiot would think putting explosives in a pager was some kind of technological step forward.
Report dave1357 September 21, 2024 7:18 PM BST
Putting explosives in technology that was out of date 30 years ago


Really? Why did I have to take all electronic devices out of my hand luggage at an airport for years? 

Did they just want to see who had iphones?
Report Shrewd_dude September 21, 2024 7:32 PM BST
Because of 9/11 not because some idiots in the middle East decide they should use bulk buy pagers instead of phones.
Report dave1357 September 27, 2024 9:25 AM BST
not so shrewd dude thinks this is old tech and nothing to be bothered about

One of the Lebanese security sources told CNN the way in which the explosive material had been hidden inside the pagers’ batteries was so sophisticated that it could not be detected, but did not elaborate further as to what sort of checks the devices had gone through before entering the country.

The second high-ranking security source said that he had examined one of the compromised pagers and witnessed its controlled explosion. He told CNN that the explosive material was “laced” inside the pager’s lithium battery and virtually undetectable. He added that he had never seen anything like it.


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/27/middleeast/israel-pager-attack-hezbollah-lebanon-invs-intl/index.html
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Report Shrewd_dude September 27, 2024 10:09 AM BST
Are these the same Lebanese security sources involved in biggest **** up in Hezballouh security history because they bought hundreds of pagers from a bloke that lived in a a high rise flat in Hungary?

Very dopey, Dopey Dave.
Report sageform September 27, 2024 10:21 AM BST
New ideas does not mean new tech. By doing this, Israel was able to identify who was senior enough in Hezbollah to be given one of these things and destroy their ability to communicate. Brutal but very effective.
Report Shrewd_dude September 27, 2024 12:41 PM BST
Secutity source in Lebanon says he has never seen anything like this before. He says gun was found inside a box of Milk Tray chocolates. "We don't get Milk Tray here anymore" so this is a new development. He says he couldn't feel the gun in the box because they got told to use Milk Tray instead of Milka because Israel could infiltrate the Milka.
Report the old nanny ;-) September 27, 2024 9:40 PM BST
The HEED of Hezbollah appears to have met a bad end accoring to some reports
Report irishone September 28, 2024 6:17 AM BST
"All the hostility directed at Israel this year — it’s not about Gaza; it’s about Israel. It’s always been about Israel. About Israel’s very existence. And I say to you, until Israel, until the Jewish state, is treated like other nations, until this antisemitic swamp is drained, the UN will be viewed by fair-minded people everywhere as nothing more than a contemptuous farce”

He has a point there .....
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