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10 Sep 24
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One Labour MP voted against the Winter fuel payment being Stopped , Read that "ONE"
they even cheered when the vote was announced
I really hope the Labour Voters are proud of what they Voted for
Because you did not vote for any Labour party I have ever known
Well done
they even cheered when the vote was announced
I really hope the Labour Voters are proud of what they Voted for
Because you did not vote for any Labour party I have ever known
Well done
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This gang are a Disgrace to the history of the Labour party
“Baa-ram-ewe! Baa-ram-ewe!
To your breed, your fleece, your clan be true!
Sheep be true! Baa-ram-ewe!”
They are all sheep
To your breed, your fleece, your clan be true!
Sheep be true! Baa-ram-ewe!”
They are all sheep
blimey nanny have you never watched babe......christmas classic in our house.....
No mate
Jon trickett stood on his own , fair play to him
A couple had handy dental appointments, to miss the vote, Lucky them
Jon trickett stood on his own , fair play to him
A couple had handy dental appointments, to miss the vote, Lucky them
Whats happened to all the posters on here ?
Labour scabbed out true Labour decades ago, all that's left is the party of immigrant, middle management, middle class, public sector filth.
its all o k labour will give OAPs another tenner a week in six months
errrmm based on inflation ....
worth feck all then !
errrmm based on inflation ....
worth feck all then !
Strange one to go to war with before the budget in October
The alleged saving is a very small fraction of the total spend of the government which will be wiped out if the campaign to get pensioners to claim pension credits work
I suppose labour felt that they had to prove to the markets they could take nasty decisions
The alleged saving is a very small fraction of the total spend of the government which will be wiped out if the campaign to get pensioners to claim pension credits work
I suppose labour felt that they had to prove to the markets they could take nasty decisions
OP,the facts are the UK is entering a period of austerity,£22 billion black hole,flatlining economy with little growth prospects.
Todays July figures (which the BBC omitted) have sharp falls in exports to EU and worldwide.
Labour the only real alternative to who in reality are responsible for fuel cuts and upcoming measures,Reform aren't credible as they with Farage also have brought about what is happening.
Starmer at least trying to reset relations with other countries,a start,he isn't a big an idiot as were the torys and the majority of the English people who thought they can get by 'alone', some deep soul searching rather than blame shifting needed.
Todays July figures (which the BBC omitted) have sharp falls in exports to EU and worldwide.
Labour the only real alternative to who in reality are responsible for fuel cuts and upcoming measures,Reform aren't credible as they with Farage also have brought about what is happening.
Starmer at least trying to reset relations with other countries,a start,he isn't a big an idiot as were the torys and the majority of the English people who thought they can get by 'alone', some deep soul searching rather than blame shifting needed.
This £22bn black hole is for this financial year.
Labour's winter fuel payment cuts is for all time
Labour's winter fuel payment cuts is for all time
you mean the fictitious £22bn black hole
Total govt spend is well over a £1,000BN
you just need to change the estimates by a fraction to manipulate any figure that you want it to be
Forecasting isnt an exact science
Total govt spend is well over a £1,000BN
you just need to change the estimates by a fraction to manipulate any figure that you want it to be
Forecasting isnt an exact science
What are the alternatives?
Change income tax bands again to get more take? (done)
Cut social welfare?
Cut public sector pay and numbers? (done)
Cut minimum wage?
Increase VAT?
New house tax on higher value properties? (mooted)
Pay points on NHS? (hardly but maybe necessary)
The tit is nearly dry,they WILL get something from somewhere and none of it is good.
Change income tax bands again to get more take? (done)
Cut social welfare?
Cut public sector pay and numbers? (done)
Cut minimum wage?
Increase VAT?
New house tax on higher value properties? (mooted)
Pay points on NHS? (hardly but maybe necessary)
The tit is nearly dry,they WILL get something from somewhere and none of it is good.
What are the alternatives?
Change IHT to include land.
The duke of Westminster inherited something like £30bn and paid buttons in tax.
Change IHT to include land.
The duke of Westminster inherited something like £30bn and paid buttons in tax.
Rothko maybe so but the evidence of declining services are there for all to see, no investment for years. No prison spaces,none built, RAAC in public buildings, huge council debts, Sewage and unfit for purpose water companies etc.
the whole way we tax equity needs to be looked at e.g capital gains
Im not disputing the state of some public services just that the winter fuel allowance first introduced by a labour govt was a strange one to go into battle with given the small amounts involved
Im not disputing the state of some public services just that the winter fuel allowance first introduced by a labour govt was a strange one to go into battle with given the small amounts involved
I'd accept that but may be going around doing multiple smaller stuff(the backlash was quite big with this though) rather than getting labelled and hit with the higher tax party stick etc?
Budget will be interesting.
Budget will be interesting.
Doing multiple smaller stuff isnt good politics imo
you take the pain several times over a longer period rather than doing an unpopular budget and taking all the pain at once
you take the pain several times over a longer period rather than doing an unpopular budget and taking all the pain at once
I get that,winter payment if dropped in the budget would be very last minute and at least is giving some notice.
RR could have chosen to tax billionaires first but no she decided to tackle pensioners 
Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak must be absolutely @&#$?&! kicking themselves. To think they could have slashed winter fuel payments to pensioners and have had the support of 336 Labour MPs!
Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak must be absolutely @&#$?&! kicking themselves. To think they could have slashed winter fuel payments to pensioners and have had the support of 336 Labour MPs!
What are the alternatives?
perhaps not Sending 11.5 Billion abroad for climate Aid , money they clearly have not got ,might help ,insanity
perhaps not Sending 11.5 Billion abroad for climate Aid , money they clearly have not got ,might help ,insanity
That was Boris Johnson pledging it on behalf of the UK over the course of a few years ^
perhaps not giving half a billion to an Indian company losing a million a day in Port Talbot
How much have the loony lefties just sent to Ukraine??
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