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Over 100 people have been arrested after protesters set off flares and clashed with police near Downing Street in a protest over the Southport Stabbings.
A demonstration named 'Enough is Enough' was held in central London this evening, with attendees told that they can only protest in Whitehall between 7pm and 8.30pm. But protest split and many defied the restrictions put in place by police, with one group spotted moving towards Downing Street and the other towards Parliament Square.
It comes after riots by suspected far-right elements in Southport on Tuesday night saw 53 officers and three police dogs injured. The angry scenes followed misinformation spread online about the 17-year-old suspect arrested in Monday's stabbing attack at a dance class in the seaside town, which left three children dead.
Over 100 people have been arrested after protesters set off flares and clashed with police near Downing Street in a protest over the Southport Stabbings.
A demonstration named 'Enough is Enough' was held in central London this evening, with attendees told that they can only protest in Whitehall between 7pm and 8.30pm. But protest split and many defied the restrictions put in place by police, with one group spotted moving towards Downing Street and the other towards Parliament Square.
It comes after riots by suspected far-right elements in Southport on Tuesday night saw 53 officers and three police dogs injured. The angry scenes followed misinformation spread online about the 17-year-old suspect arrested in Monday's stabbing attack at a dance class in the seaside town, which left three children dead.
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If done right and if the person bruteforcing things is neither unfathomably lucky, nor has an exploit at their hands, then nowhere near in any of our lifetimes even though I plan to take advantage of upcoming advances in medicine and live for quite a few additional thousands of years.
Your realistic chances as an attacker are said exploits, a very short password, a common password (or otherwise something found in a dictionary or leaked password lists)....or finding the password scribbled down somewhere. Otherwise you are left with guessing through all possible combinations without knowing the length and which characters exactly the password was generated from. Given the massive amount of possible combinations once the passwords become even decently long-ish, that can become a very time-intensive affair. Often it's also the case that an attacker cannot relentlessly fire away hundreds of tries per second even if their processing power allowed them to do so, but rather has to wait a few seconds between each and every try (on a single computer). I doubt the authorities would really ever bother trying to decrypt a file or storage device beyond running common and known password lists. It's a near impossible task to guess a (pseudo)random password.
As for finding out where files come from: I could imagine that the secret services keep such records of everyone for a certain amount of time. Whether they give access to that data to "normal" authorities I do not know. Similar story if you use a VPN or TOR. For a lot of VPN services one should be under no illusions that the no-log policy is really a "yes-log" policy in my mind, but they are simply not given up easily. As are malicious TOR-nodes run by authorities.
In principle it is also possible for your ISP to know everything you do on the internet, including where from you downloaded which file (unless the transfer was encrypted), but in a lot of countries data protection laws probably prevent the unconditional snooping on everybody's entire internet activity by such private companies.
Your realistic chances as an attacker are said exploits, a very short password, a common password (or otherwise something found in a dictionary or leaked password lists)....or finding the password scribbled down somewhere. Otherwise you are left with guessing through all possible combinations without knowing the length and which characters exactly the password was generated from. Given the massive amount of possible combinations once the passwords become even decently long-ish, that can become a very time-intensive affair. Often it's also the case that an attacker cannot relentlessly fire away hundreds of tries per second even if their processing power allowed them to do so, but rather has to wait a few seconds between each and every try (on a single computer). I doubt the authorities would really ever bother trying to decrypt a file or storage device beyond running common and known password lists. It's a near impossible task to guess a (pseudo)random password.
As for finding out where files come from: I could imagine that the secret services keep such records of everyone for a certain amount of time. Whether they give access to that data to "normal" authorities I do not know. Similar story if you use a VPN or TOR. For a lot of VPN services one should be under no illusions that the no-log policy is really a "yes-log" policy in my mind, but they are simply not given up easily. As are malicious TOR-nodes run by authorities.
In principle it is also possible for your ISP to know everything you do on the internet, including where from you downloaded which file (unless the transfer was encrypted), but in a lot of countries data protection laws probably prevent the unconditional snooping on everybody's entire internet activity by such private companies.
It's important that the authorities do not let folk know
how much they know, and indeed to let on that they
don't have capabilities that they actually do have.
I think it was Alan Turing that formulated
such rules, and worked out how much decrypted
information could be safely used without folk
working out their codes, and systems had been cracked.
how much they know, and indeed to let on that they
don't have capabilities that they actually do have.
I think it was Alan Turing that formulated
such rules, and worked out how much decrypted
information could be safely used without folk
working out their codes, and systems had been cracked.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was alluding to with the giving access to "normal" authorities. Sharing things with them might influence your ability to gather more important information through the same established methods in the future.
Similar if the secret services possess exploits (for decryption or otherwise).
Similar if the secret services possess exploits (for decryption or otherwise).
Turing had cracked some German stuff and was mortified that
he couldn't tell Russians everything about stalingrad, as he
may have alerted Germans to fact the code was mostly cracked.
Indeed Churchill didn't want the Russians to know we
had cracked codes, so info was dripped to them.
he couldn't tell Russians everything about stalingrad, as he
may have alerted Germans to fact the code was mostly cracked.
Indeed Churchill didn't want the Russians to know we
had cracked codes, so info was dripped to them.
Something along those lines is also meant to be the reason, up to this day, that the belief among Germans persists that carrots are not just generally good for your eyesight, but do specifically inprove your vision at night. Not concerning Turing and cryptography, but the capability of detecting airplanes with radars. To keep that hidden from the Germans and mystify them, the Brits made it known that they fed air defence operators lots and lots of carrots that enabled them to detect the German attack planes.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-wwii-propaganda-campaign-popularized-the-myth-that-carrots-help-you-see-in-the-dark-28812484/
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-wwii-propaganda-campaign-popularized-the-myth-that-carrots-help-you-see-in-the-dark-28812484/
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Was he?
How do you know?
So now you think you can make things up to suit your own ignorant view of the World and spew more bile.
The bloke was in Court today. Suggest you keep your filthy mouth shut and let the Police and CPS deal with it.
You might not understand how the Law works in this country because you certainly don’t understand what British values are.
How do you know?
So now you think you can make things up to suit your own ignorant view of the World and spew more bile.
The bloke was in Court today. Suggest you keep your filthy mouth shut and let the Police and CPS deal with it.
You might not understand how the Law works in this country because you certainly don’t understand what British values are.
Do you know what this '?' means?
You sound like you're losing the plot.
You sound like you're losing the plot.
No
There will be a trial in January
I suggest you all keep your filthy mouths shut on the subject and keep your filthy opinions to yourselves.
Let the CPS do their job and do not prejudice the trial
There will be a trial in January
I suggest you all keep your filthy mouths shut on the subject and keep your filthy opinions to yourselves.
Let the CPS do their job and do not prejudice the trial
I think you said the same thing about the Martyn Blake trial then burst in to tears when the jury didn't agree with your nonsensical views.
Did you?
That is your problem like many on here, thinking!
You would be better served parroting 3 word slogans and not showing everyone your thinking. I think most have worked it out already
The bottom line is you need to keep it shut and while you’re at it find out a little about English Law and British values,
That is your problem like many on here, thinking!
You would be better served parroting 3 word slogans and not showing everyone your thinking. I think most have worked it out already
The bottom line is you need to keep it shut and while you’re at it find out a little about English Law and British values,
I recall he was making merry about the coming trial against where Andrew Gale and about 14 others who sued YCCC over their treatment of them in response to racial allegations.
Insinuating they’d lose and they’d get what was coming.
Then YCCC folded right before the trial
And WD went quiet.
Now he just calls everyone Taliban
Man’s a comedy act.
Insinuating they’d lose and they’d get what was coming.
Then YCCC folded right before the trial
And WD went quiet.
Now he just calls everyone Taliban
Man’s a comedy act.
He is certainly someone who picks and chooses "English law and British values" when it suits his narrative.
I don't know why you people struggle so much with the concept British values. If The Queen wouldn't have done it, it's not British. That, and queueing orderly.
Wearing a fancy hat = very british
Swearing = very unbritish
Crisps with a vanilla slice = very british
Brawling = very unbritish
Good-natured banter = very british
Setting things on fire = very unbritish
Enjoying the horse racing = very british
Being an eternal victim = very unbritish
Being a winner = very british
Wearing a fancy hat = very british
Swearing = very unbritish
Crisps with a vanilla slice = very british
Brawling = very unbritish
Good-natured banter = very british
Setting things on fire = very unbritish
Enjoying the horse racing = very british
Being an eternal victim = very unbritish
Being a winner = very british
British Values = Truth, Justice, The Rule of Law, Tradition, Hierarchy, Patriotism, Moral Duty, Liberty, Fair play, Work ethic etc
Entirely distinct from the reframing of the term in recent decades = Tolerance, Inclusivity, Multiculturalism, Human Rights, "Education", Religious freedom, environmentalism etc, so enamoured by anti British, emasculated, cowardly, enclave dwelling, cheek spreaders like WD.
Entirely distinct from the reframing of the term in recent decades = Tolerance, Inclusivity, Multiculturalism, Human Rights, "Education", Religious freedom, environmentalism etc, so enamoured by anti British, emasculated, cowardly, enclave dwelling, cheek spreaders like WD.
Doesn't Fair play necessitate things like tolerance, inclusivity and human rights? Doesn't liberty include religious freedom?
Or is liberty meant to tell me I need to be Christian instead of a pastafarian?
hi edy, nice to see you again 
in your world, yes, no doubt
enjoy your day
in your world, yes, no doubt
enjoy your day
Can you be a bit more specific please? How can you say liberty is a traditional British value, but then somehow the liberty to choose your religious affiliation is not? How does that work in your world?
Stoicism, resilience, not playing the victim, personal responsibility.
Tolerance covers a lot of things. Tolerating, eg accepting depraved behaviour if the perp is not white (ie a victim), is not a value. British, or otherwise.
Tolerance covers a lot of things. Tolerating, eg accepting depraved behaviour if the perp is not white (ie a victim), is not a value. British, or otherwise.
Of course liberty is never unrestricted, even in Britain. If your liberty infringes on the liberty of others, you have to make a judgement on whether liberty should be restricted. The liberty of a husband to hit his wife is in conflict with the liberty and right of the wife to not be hit.
But if I simply want to have whatever religion, I am not really infringing on anyone else's liberty and right, so I don't see why it would be British to limit that particular liberty of mine.
But if I simply want to have whatever religion, I am not really infringing on anyone else's liberty and right, so I don't see why it would be British to limit that particular liberty of mine.
You see people like shred and lux should not be allowed to think for themselves and are indeed better off parroting 3 word slogans.
Perhaps lux could explain to us what
The rule of law means
Perhaps lux might also try and explain to Shrewd what sub judice is?
Perhaps lux could explain to us what
The rule of law means
Perhaps lux might also try and explain to Shrewd what sub judice is?
Yes edy, the carrots for night sight became a thing in uk too.
And it was years before they could correct it, as they would have
given the game away, and they didn't want the early radar sites
to be targeted for obvious reasons.
To be fair most UK folk my age still think carrots are good for your sight
as we grew up being told by our grand parents who had lived through the
war.
And it was years before they could correct it, as they would have
given the game away, and they didn't want the early radar sites
to be targeted for obvious reasons.
To be fair most UK folk my age still think carrots are good for your sight
as we grew up being told by our grand parents who had lived through the
war.
Perhaps lux might also try and explain to Shrewd what sub judice is?
Why not grow a pair and you explain it?
You are total hypocrite. You are the first one to talk about the British jusitice system's values then try and undermine it when a jury decides something you don't like.
Try and at least show a bit of consistency with your nonsense.
Why not grow a pair and you explain it?
You are total hypocrite. You are the first one to talk about the British jusitice system's values then try and undermine it when a jury decides something you don't like.
Try and at least show a bit of consistency with your nonsense.
I don’t need to.
You need to understand what it is and keep your gob shut.
You need to understand what it is and keep your gob shut.
I wonder what keyboard warriors did before the internet. I'm guessing they had to keep
their nasty mouths shut or risk a good kicking every time they went out of the house.
their nasty mouths shut or risk a good kicking every time they went out of the house.
edy • October 30, 2024 11:35 AM GMT
I don't know why you people struggle so much with the concept British values. If The Queen wouldn't have done it, it's not British. That, and queueing orderly.
Wearing a fancy hat = very british
Swearing = very unbritish
Crisps with a vanilla slice = very british
Brawling = very unbritish
Good-natured banter = very british
Setting things on fire = very unbritish
Enjoying the horse racing = very british
Being an eternal victim = very unbritish
Being a winner = very british
I don't know why you people struggle so much with the concept British values. If The Queen wouldn't have done it, it's not British. That, and queueing orderly.
Wearing a fancy hat = very british
Swearing = very unbritish
Crisps with a vanilla slice = very british
Brawling = very unbritish
Good-natured banter = very british
Setting things on fire = very unbritish
Enjoying the horse racing = very british
Being an eternal victim = very unbritish
Being a winner = very british
We don’t get the vile keyboard warriors in London saddo. Or at least they don’t mouth off in pubs.
Maybe he is visiting Blighty and doesn’t have internet?
I wonder what keyboard warriors did before the internet. I'm guessing they had to keep
their nasty mouths shut or risk a good kicking every time they went out of the house.
Shouted in betting shops, gobbed off in pub,
If you didn't notice them it's likely there's a reason
their nasty mouths shut or risk a good kicking every time they went out of the house.
Shouted in betting shops, gobbed off in pub,
If you didn't notice them it's likely there's a reason
Anyone giving it the big un with insults like you and WD would be on the deck every day. So what did you do pre-internet?
Watched you shouting in bookies and falling out of pubs
when they got bored and booted you.
when they got bored and booted you.
I am astounded to hear that Britain apparently had so many through and through unbritish vandals back in your day, saddo. People that, in their intellectual and oral helplessness, resorted to speak with their fists.
you-have-to-laugh, if someone asked me what a "keyboard warrrior" was, I would point to you.
Lol, probably too busy licking windows to point.
Can you be a bit more specific please? How can you say liberty is a traditional British value, but then somehow the liberty to choose your religious affiliation is not? How does that work in your world?
Edy
Because obviously, the usage of the term was seated on a specific confectus, for the most part unstated, taken as a given, religious freedom evolved over centuries to include non Anglicans etc culminating in the constitutional reforms under Blair.
As usual, I find it hard to grasp the gist of your meandering.
Yes, WD, I could quite easily explain both those terms. What on earth is your point?
Edy
Because obviously, the usage of the term was seated on a specific confectus, for the most part unstated, taken as a given, religious freedom evolved over centuries to include non Anglicans etc culminating in the constitutional reforms under Blair.
As usual, I find it hard to grasp the gist of your meandering.
Yes, WD, I could quite easily explain both those terms. What on earth is your point?
So what does liberty mean then on the specific confectus if it does not even involve me being allowed to praise whatever superficial entity I dream of?
Oh hail the Lord, I have the liberty to praise exactly the one superficial entity and follow exactly the one denomination the state dictates. Yay!
Supernatural of course, although that abrahamic thing called God/Allah/Yahweh does come across as rather superficial really.
What is the essence of the British Liberty you hold up high, lux? What ...liberties does it actually describe?
edy
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Or is liberty meant to tell me I need to be Christian instead of a pastafarian?
Edy, you are free to join any religion you wish and becoming a pastafarian would be an excellent choice.
What would be unacceptable would be to preach hatred and harm to another group so if it was found that Pastafarian scripture preached that Fajitarians should be refried in hot oil and served up with green chillies, then the teaching should be rescinded immediately or the leaders of the cult should face the full force of the law.
edy30 Oct 24 11:50Joined: 13 Dec 06 | Topic/replies: 285,201 | Blogger: edy's blog
Or is liberty meant to tell me I need to be Christian instead of a pastafarian?
Edy, you are free to join any religion you wish and becoming a pastafarian would be an excellent choice.
What would be unacceptable would be to preach hatred and harm to another group so if it was found that Pastafarian scripture preached that Fajitarians should be refried in hot oil and served up with green chillies, then the teaching should be rescinded immediately or the leaders of the cult should face the full force of the law.
Well of course people operate within the law and one's interpretations, and actions done as a result of those readings, do not circumvent common or civil law. If my reading of The Holy Bible was to be consistent with the previously popular reading that God allows me to keep slaves as a good white Christian, I am limited in actually practicing that due to the laws of the land. There is no doubt about that.
I would go further and wish that the law of the land requires that the teaching be reversed.
So they Raided the Budding Doctor Who's house on the day of the attack ,yet it has taken 4 Months to reveal what this Character was up to ?
Was he on any Watch Lists ?
Was he on any Watch Lists ?
You can't just go and edit out all the many very problematic teachings in the bible and Dr. Seuss books.
If you can rewrite history you can rewrite anything.
They did it with the bible and called it the New Testament, other minor revisions have happened since.
You can dress it up as a message from God or an equivalent invisible friend.
They did it with the bible and called it the New Testament, other minor revisions have happened since.
You can dress it up as a message from God or an equivalent invisible friend.
Of course you can technically rewrite things, but it would be woke.
Better to simply make sure to better include religious males in the Male Improvement Project that has been at work and has already shown marked improvements in making at least some more men truly British again. Away from the vandals and hooligans that saw brawling as an answer to their conversations and as a means to defend their immense mental snowflakery and petiteness.
Of course the work is far from finished and there are forces out there, like lux, that dismiss this all-around improvement of male behaviour, back to the roots of utmost civility that used to define British men more than anything else, as "emasculation" without an own thought in sight.
Better to simply make sure to better include religious males in the Male Improvement Project that has been at work and has already shown marked improvements in making at least some more men truly British again. Away from the vandals and hooligans that saw brawling as an answer to their conversations and as a means to defend their immense mental snowflakery and petiteness.
Of course the work is far from finished and there are forces out there, like lux, that dismiss this all-around improvement of male behaviour, back to the roots of utmost civility that used to define British men more than anything else, as "emasculation" without an own thought in sight.
I already talked about how islamists are, at their core, really the muslim version of the European far-right. As is very well established, the far-right are nothing more than massively insecure snowflakes. Big bellied people with very unfortunate genetics in the looks and intelligence department that delude themselves into being warriors and defenders of everyone else who doesn't want anywhere near being represented by them.
Far right Centrism @ 14.32
https://youtu.be/4Dq9-W75MII?si=qGC3ddy95_0z_2nE
https://youtu.be/4Dq9-W75MII?si=qGC3ddy95_0z_2nE
Did you just call Tommy Robinson unfortunate in the looks and intelligence department?
First you equal the working classes with being dumb multiple times a few weeks ago in your arrogance as a social studies degree holder and now this. Tsk...
First you equal the working classes with being dumb multiple times a few weeks ago in your arrogance as a social studies degree holder and now this. Tsk...
Astrology accurately explains many things.
Where should it place me on the left-right spectrum of that political compass test Robinson does if I answer that with strongly disagree vs. strongly agree respectively? Strongly agree gets me a right wing points because MAGAs are famously as strong a group of esoteric hippies you'll find anywhere?
Where should it place me on the left-right spectrum of that political compass test Robinson does if I answer that with strongly disagree vs. strongly agree respectively? Strongly agree gets me a right wing points because MAGAs are famously as strong a group of esoteric hippies you'll find anywhere?
Which would you prefer edy, President Trump or President Harris? Neither is not an option because the world is going to get one or the other. I will then tell you where you sit on the political spectrum (or maybe you already know).
foin - you read the new George Smiley book? Seem to remember you were a big Le Carré fan.
Well, I am not a quisling that wants the USA to hurt the German export industry, nor do I want Germany's security be hurt by an isolationist US president that won't be there for Europe in case further war. So the choice is an easy Harris, even if Trump would provide the better material to circle jerk about imaginary culture war crap.
I am also not a fan of esoteric leftist hippies in general, which further gives minus points to the MAGA movement.
There is little discussion about policies and which direction to take the country. Chump is manipulating Populism for his own personal benefit. The dems have learnt to go just as low. CNN is now just a mirror of Fox. It is a sad state of affairs for all.
Nobody is talking about economics. I am learning nothing!.
Nobody is talking about economics. I am learning nothing!.
Foinavon, I was specifically enquiring about that particular statement from the political compass website
Astrology accurately explains many things.
where you then have to strongly disagree, disagree, agree or strongly agree. I don't quite know what direction that kind of question is meant to earn me. They have an economic and a social scale. I'd guess the statement belongs to the social scale, where they have authoritarian and libertarian. Do you agree that "Strongly Agree" to "Astrology accurately explains many things." would earn me points for authoritarian? They seem to be into all sorts of esoterics these days.
Astrology accurately explains many things.
where you then have to strongly disagree, disagree, agree or strongly agree. I don't quite know what direction that kind of question is meant to earn me. They have an economic and a social scale. I'd guess the statement belongs to the social scale, where they have authoritarian and libertarian. Do you agree that "Strongly Agree" to "Astrology accurately explains many things." would earn me points for authoritarian? They seem to be into all sorts of esoterics these days.
Well remembered Porky. No, I haven't read it yet but I see it has good reviews. I think the current Kindle price is excessive so being miserly, I'll wait until the froth has blown off before downloading it. Le Carré's son did complete his unfinished novel "Silverview" and made an excellent job of it, you wouldn't know it hadn't been written entirely by the man himself.
Edy, since you support Harris, I situate you on the Erich Honecker wing of the political spectrum. You clearly miss the comfort of having the Stasi to look after your security and other interests.
As for astrologists, I consider their ability to predict the future on a par with bank of England economists and climatologists equipped with the latest computer programs.
As for astrologists, I consider their ability to predict the future on a par with bank of England economists and climatologists equipped with the latest computer programs.
Did you just call Tommy Robinson unfortunate in the looks and intelligence department?
First you equal the working classes with being dumb multiple times a few weeks ago in your arrogance as a social studies degree holder and now this. Tsk...
You talking to me? If so your database needs correction as I definitely don't hold a Social Studies degree. As for equalling the working classes with being dumb could you possibly elaborate?
Cheers
First you equal the working classes with being dumb multiple times a few weeks ago in your arrogance as a social studies degree holder and now this. Tsk...
You talking to me? If so your database needs correction as I definitely don't hold a Social Studies degree. As for equalling the working classes with being dumb could you possibly elaborate?
Cheers
Oh of course I can elaborate!
E.g. you wrote
lux • July 27, 2024 9:51 PM BST
"smelly national front"
aka
The Native English White Working class, progenitors of every single comfort and luxury you enjoy, your entire standard of living you dirty thick ungrateful c***.
Your ancestors look down on you and your establishment sanctioned punching down with absolute disgust and contempt.
https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/31849193/the-smelly-national-front-out-in-force-in-london-trafalger-square
In this post you equated the working classes with some smelly and dumb fringe, as noted by the "aka". Unlike obviously you, I am reasonably positive that these smelly, drunk, defiling fringe people are not remotely representative of the Native English White Working class. They wouldn't be anywhere near representative of the Native German White Working class, even if they possibly think of themselves as such and as a silent (
) majority or something.
As for the social studies thing....that's scandalous and I apologise. Are you sure you don't have a social studies degree? Like...can you double check please? Sometimes people like to forget phases of their lives. I really thought you had told me once that you had such a degree, or maybe that you had been enrolled into one at university one day.
My memory is meant to be faultless. Advanced age is catching up with me......
E.g. you wrote
lux • July 27, 2024 9:51 PM BST
"smelly national front"
aka
The Native English White Working class, progenitors of every single comfort and luxury you enjoy, your entire standard of living you dirty thick ungrateful c***.
Your ancestors look down on you and your establishment sanctioned punching down with absolute disgust and contempt.
https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/31849193/the-smelly-national-front-out-in-force-in-london-trafalger-square
In this post you equated the working classes with some smelly and dumb fringe, as noted by the "aka". Unlike obviously you, I am reasonably positive that these smelly, drunk, defiling fringe people are not remotely representative of the Native English White Working class. They wouldn't be anywhere near representative of the Native German White Working class, even if they possibly think of themselves as such and as a silent (
) majority or something.As for the social studies thing....that's scandalous and I apologise. Are you sure you don't have a social studies degree? Like...can you double check please? Sometimes people like to forget phases of their lives. I really thought you had told me once that you had such a degree, or maybe that you had been enrolled into one at university one day.
My memory is meant to be faultless. Advanced age is catching up with me......
PorcupineorPineapple • July 28, 2024 8:05 AM BST
I was out in Liverpool yesterday. Was full of the native English white working class. But they were wearing colourful clothes, laughing and dancing and having a great time at the Pride event, not snarling at coppers and anyone who doesn't look like the man in the mirror.
Your regular reminder that the window lickers who hang off Tommy's every word are a tiny morsel of a fraction of a portion of the population and the vast majority of us see him for the divisive hate-filled grifter out to make a quick buck that he is.
From the above linked thread. PorcupineorPineapple knew.
I was out in Liverpool yesterday. Was full of the native English white working class. But they were wearing colourful clothes, laughing and dancing and having a great time at the Pride event, not snarling at coppers and anyone who doesn't look like the man in the mirror.
Your regular reminder that the window lickers who hang off Tommy's every word are a tiny morsel of a fraction of a portion of the population and the vast majority of us see him for the divisive hate-filled grifter out to make a quick buck that he is.
From the above linked thread. PorcupineorPineapple knew.
Why have the people who suggested this was a terrorist attacked been imprisoned , Im talking about online posters , Not those on the street inciting violence , Such as the Labour Councillor who some how Got bail , after suggesting a crowd slashed peoples throats
Was anyone actually imprisoned for posting something along the lines of "I think it was a terror attack"?
I was objecting to the generalised depiction of the native white working class as "smelly national front".
Obviously on some kind of session as i'm usually quite polite.
And Arts and humanities.
Obviously on some kind of session as i'm usually quite polite.
And Arts and humanities.
You made it a generalised depiction of the working class and equated smelly national front to them, not the original poster.
Ah, social sciences it was. That's what I meant, thanks. Sorry, not a native speaker.
I responded to the original post of
"the smelly national front out in force in London trafalger square"
They clearly weren't national front, they were native white working class hence my response.
The only equivalence was made in that original post. An equivalence I objected to.
"the smelly national front out in force in London trafalger square"
They clearly weren't national front, they were native white working class hence my response.
The only equivalence was made in that original post. An equivalence I objected to.
If the white working class is anything like the German working class, the people at such events are nowhere near close to being representatives of the working class, but rather indeed a smelly fringe of people from partially the working class, partially the middle class and partially academics of the social sciences.
The original poster wrote about a fringe group that partially consists of a fringe of the working class, not the whole working class that you insist they represent.
The original poster wrote about a fringe group that partially consists of a fringe of the working class, not the whole working class that you insist they represent.
Meanwhile A labour MP reposting that the Tories are white Supremeists and Kemi is their leader , Why was she not Suspended ?
I would say its Racist WD , but thats me
Where is Chris Mason MP from , he needs to be told that sadly walking around in a suit in London on your own Late at night
Is not advisable , They took his phone , thankfully he was not Injured , after being stalked by 4 people on Electric bikes
Where is Chris Mason MP from , he needs to be told that sadly walking around in a suit in London on your own Late at night
Is not advisable , They took his phone , thankfully he was not Injured , after being stalked by 4 people on Electric bikes
I am trying to understand why you would call it racist
thinking the Tories are White Supremicists WD sounds a bit racist to me , We just had an Indian PM
Why?
What is racist about that? It might be stupid but how is it racist?
What is racist about that? It might be stupid but how is it racist?
Would you support laws against thinking nanny?
I've read that the killers father was also a mass murderer, he was supposed to go on trial in Rwanda
for running a death squad, came here and we denied his extradition and provided a new identity.
for running a death squad, came here and we denied his extradition and provided a new identity.
More to it than that Saddo if the whispers are true, someone v big involved and his position may be in doubt.
No one allowed to mention it, you can imagine the noise from the usual suspects if a Tory was involved.
I had not heard that , but have heard Starmer was one of the Human Rights Lawyers who acted on the Fathers behalf , Not sure if True
Farage knows what's go on But cant say , if he knows the whole house knows
Farage knows what's go on But cant say , if he knows the whole house knows
Right an all in regards to any one on the forum putting it in print,don't want to see that, source of this is questionable particulary if it from who i heard and his game is in the open. Still not excusing and it will be questioned.
Nigel needs to man up and spill the beans instead of letting people on social media speculate that Alphonse Rudakabana (born 1975) is in reality some genocider called Martin Rudakabana (born 1960) that was defended by Keir Starmer even though the supposed proof of a case file doesn't even show that connection.
Would be kind of fun if it turns out to be true though. Would that mean the Rwanda genocide was at the behest of the British secret services and he was an agent of theirs?
Though if I was a super secret service I'd personally give people an entirely new name instead of keeping the surname and only changing Martin to Alphonse. Sounds a bit amateurish.
I think Farage will just know something boring like that authorities generally knew the dude and his possible love affair with being culturally Christian/Muslim, but didn't deem him along the path far enough for him to pose a realistic danger. So more or less standard stuff. Not that Axel was the offspring of an internationally wanted genocider that genocided on orders of the MI-6 and who had his first name changed after Keir Starmer himself did his asylum trial.
Acting silly is one thing, but you don't want to look silly edy. Let's wait and see, despite Police evasion lies and a
commons blackout the truth will have to come out eventually.
commons blackout the truth will have to come out eventually.
Why be the one who brings up rumours first on here if your motto is wait and see?
Indeed, rumours it is. I'll be happier when I know why the Police announced to the media
that it wasn't a terrorist attack, when they knew it was. I'd like to know who authorised that mistruth.
I wasn't aware of the Starmer link but I think they are two separate issues anyway, no one can see 20 years forward.
that it wasn't a terrorist attack, when they knew it was. I'd like to know who authorised that mistruth.
I wasn't aware of the Starmer link but I think they are two separate issues anyway, no one can see 20 years forward.
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