Next tory leader

The Ex-PM made clear he would stay on as leader until the Conservatives had "a process" in place to pick a new leader, meaning the party may need to seek an interim boss for the four months of campaigning.

Under the timetable drawn up by the backbench 1922 Committee on Monday afternoon, four candidates would go before the Conservative Party Conference in October before a postal ballot of members.

Nominations would open this Wednesday July 24 at 7pm, with hopefuls requiring the backing of ten MPs to reach the first round of voting.

After an August of campaigning around the country, Tory MPs would vote in ballots on September 4, 9, 10 and 11 - knocking one candidate out until just four remain.

I may have a bet on this and it will probably be a lay of Badenoch (current favourite at about 2/1), but not for the next few weeks.

Those four would be given prominent speaking slots at the party gathering in Birmingham starting on September 30.

When MPs return to the Commons further votes to whittle the field down to just two would be held on October 9 and 10.

A postal vote of members would be held between the October 15 and 31, with the new leader announced on November 2.

So far more than half a dozen MPs have hinted they will run including ex-Cabinet ministers Kemi Badenoch, Robert Jenrick, Priti Patel, James Cleverly, Tom Tugendhat and Mel Stride.

A postal vote of members would be held between the October 15 and 31, with the new leader announced on November 2.



Plenty of time for insiders to lump on...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conserative-voters-age-next-general-election-b2583660.html

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Interim leaders don't count on here according to rules

So Nov 24 looks good in month Sunak replaced meerkat.

Quite a shift in the betting markets today. Steady support for Jenrick, Tugendhat and Cleverly. Slight drift for Patel but big price drift for Badenoch. They all should be able to get the backing of ten MPs but after that it becomes a bit of a lottery before Conservative party members vote to decide which candidate from the last two standing become leader. No one has officially declared as yet but it can't be far away.

Cleverly is a shrewd operator.

He was quite impressive on sky today
and likely a dominant figure in any debates.

Is that enough, or have the members already decided...

I've already had a small bet on Tugendhat. My guess is no better than anyone else's but he looks better value than Kemi and fits the bill for the no nation majority of the pathetic tory rump.
I can't see Suella staying with them, no future for her there.

My thoughts were that Tom would win.

If he does, then right wing of party can wait, or
ready made new home.

Interesting year ahead for tories.

Be brilliant for ruk if 2 liberalists make the run off. There's not too many that Tug could defeat in a run off, but then again the vast majority of people couldn't care who wins it at this point in time either. I feel like it might be someone untainted by a previous try, doubt I will be getting heavily involved until we see who makes it past the first hurdle.

maybe this time they will allow all the debates to complete before they allow voting to begin......that silly cow liz truss would never have been picked if they did that last time and all that damage to the public finances and the increased mortgage payments would have been avoided.....no wonder the tories are out......could not even organise their own vote....

There are still people who think mortgages went up due to Truss saying she planned to cut the top rate of income tax by 5% She did well to shift central bank rates all over the world, inside of a month tbf :)

Nice defence of tories, old habits die hard.

And strawmaning too, wonderful.

Not sure the 70 billion black hole was generated
by the self indulgent proposed 5% cut in top rate.

there was no '70 billion black hole'

Labour initially agreed to every other measure announced in the 'mini budget'

----you-have-to-laugh--- 23 Jul 24 17:31 
Nice defence of tories, old habits die hard.

.............

They do, Tories gone but you'll be hating them daily for a long time yet.

The 14 years of chaos will be remembered for a long time.

It was their choice to go down those roads and act
in that manner.

Doubtless the image of the queen mourning alone
will live with millions who lost loved ones during covid
and were unable to attend funerals and hospitals.

i thought theresa may was the worst prime minster of my time until that hard faced truss turned up......nothing to do with party politics.... she was terrible and she still thinks she was right and everyone else was wrong.....amazing some people defend her....

Truss was a terrible pm. She is not the reason why central bank rates have normalised around the developed world.

Did you sleep through spaffer Johnson?

Truss just announced her budget on wrong day, lol

And odey cleaned up by accident betting against UK

And kami kwasi saying there's more to come also
just unlucky timing didn't set of more disasters

And odey made a bit more, by chance.

Set off

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2g0z1gkzyo

Spike Cleverly first to announce he is standing.

I speculatively suggest that Spike Cleverly realised he was behind almost everybody regarding MPs voting intentions for leader, particularly Tugendhat, so he decided to come out running in the hope of gathering and retaining early support.

I think he likely did a focus group after today's performance on sky
and drew praise from within party.

It's quite nice to see folk ad libbing, and kay burley
was swooning too...

The following seven candidates have been given Tory leadership nomination packs after asking for them according to @joncraig

Suella Braverman
James Cleverly
Priti Patel
Robert Jenrick
Kemi Badenoch
Tom Tugendhat
Mel Stride

Looking at that list, you can split it into two groups...

Right wingers-Braverman, Patel, Jenrick, Badenoch

Centrists- Cleverly, Tugendhat, Stride.

I don't give any chance whatsoever to Braverman. Don't reckon Stride can win either. Taking these two out, the betting market suggests that Patel may offer best value (currently 12.0) of the right wing group. I would guesstimate that one from each group will make the final two.

I don't really know stride, so maybe that's a good thing, except
it's tory members who vote, and there is still
a rump of ukips, therein, who have a large say in final vote.

Yes, the final vote, when they are down to just two, greatly favours those on the right/extreme right of the party.

What a depressing list. It must be hell to be a Tory right now. Marginally worse than being a socialist I suspect. Well a lot worse tbf 14 years!

Johnson eyeing a come back?

Maybe Liz Truss has unfinished business

Who will lead tories into next election, could
be an even better meerkat.

There is talk of everyone unifying around one big figure that everyone respects. I am hearing that could well be Gavin Williamson.

Refuk didn't stand a candidate against Williamson at last election.

I've heard his name crop up, but respect?,

Tugendhat announces joining the race and price plummeting.

We are spoilt for choice with this bunch of losers who collectively seem to be saying to the Tory Faithful….. 14 more years of the same incompetent sheite.

The good news is that it is going to be entertaining. The Nutter Faction of Cruella, Priti, Bad Eunuch and Jenrick the Liar are going to be fighting over the same Bastard of Deplorables vote.  They will continue to split the Right as the selfishness of clowns like these and Farage and Tice know no bounds.

We are going to have conservative Government for the next ten years but at least it will be competent unlike the last 14 years of Clown Show.

In 2022 Tory leadership hopeful Tom Tugendhat categorically ruled out leaving the ECHR

Today he’s running around suggesting he would be willing to leave.



It's just a jump to the right
And then a lurch to the right
Put your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust
That really drives you insane
Let's do the Time Warp again
Let's do the Time Warp again

when does the nomination period close?

Thanks in advance

Nominations opened at 7pm on Wednesday July 24, closing at 2.30pm on Monday July 29.

Sorry to disappoint the left-wingers but we haven't had a tory government this century. The consocialists were just continuity Blair. I don't expect much change in the future as the con rump are to the left of Sir Starmer. You can rule out Priti and Suella, even Kemi has been desperately toadying to the lefties in the party in order to drum up support. I don't think the MPs will give the party members much choice with the last two, it will be tweedle dum or tweedle dee.

Tom T doesn't have a cat in Hell's chance.

It's between Kemi and Jenrick IMHO and ATM neither is a clear winner

Nominations opened at 7pm on Wednesday July 24, closing at 2.30pm on Monday July 29.

That's a really short amount of time for potential candidates to canvass other MP's and gauge support and to form alliances, given state of disarray of the party and the rest of the process will take over 3 months.

It's between Kemi and Jenrick IMHO and ATM neither is a clear winner

Both are from the right wing of the party, I think it unlikely both will make it to the final 2.

Your warped idea of left wing from so far to the right
of Hitler and Farrage drives your idiotic posts.

Even crippens sits to your left on spectrum.

Don't flatter me Donny, I assure you it's not necessary at all.
However I don't want you upsetting Dr Crippen with comments like that, he's not a lefty,
he has far more common sense.

He's to left of you, as is rest of forum.

Is that so? You have a very warped view of the world. I'm pleased not to be like the fascists who pile onto anyone who doesn't share their opinions and have recently caused two prolific posters to be banned.

My view of the world is not warped.

Your view is warped, being so extreme you struggle to
see other views. That's OK, I make allowances for it.

Your mate, is the only one who repeatedly admits to
reporting posts and getting them removed, and counting
how many posts of his are removed whilst also
commenting on posts he tried to get removed and failed.

Of course your warped view means your comments on that
are skewed away from actuality. He even conspired
on another public website to get people banned from
here that held opinions differing from his own.

Again your lack of condemnation is telling.

My mate? I didn't know I had a mate on here. The only person I actually know is Charlie,
I don't think he remotely fits your description.

Ah, he's not your mate then, lol.

Perhaps you should follow Irishone's advice and talk to your doctor, you seem to be suffering from hallucinations.

The people I talk to the most on this forum are edy and yourself, and I admit, I like edy a lot more than I like you but perhaps your my mate too?

*you're*

Be brilliant for the country if two “ liberalists “ get advanced and the Tory Party self destructs.

That's what I'm hoping for Whispering. They are a spent force but someone needs to finish the job and I don't want to see a resurrection like in 2015.

I'm not fussed who you like.

Doesn't matter a jot.

Apparently Braverman can't find ten MPs to support her standing (She isn't allowed to include Reform ones).

If she struggles to 10 she can't possibly make last 2.

Seriously she is despised that much!

You guys, shirley can’t be that disliked?

Jenrick could be favourite on here shortly, Badenoch price just keeps drifting and for some reason, she hasn't entered the race yet.

Badenoch's odd's (3.55--3.6) will surely plummet if/when she announces she's running


(I'm red at 2.82 avg, pondering options)

I laid her for a ton at 2.44. I thought that price was far too short and am in no hurry currently to back her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrj832e973o

If this is based on the truth, Kemi is busted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrj832e973o

If this is based on the truth, Kemi is busted.

I read your BBC link, and some of the spectator article, and couldn't see anything in
them that would remotely ruin her leadership chances.

The Clown Show Continues

I sullied myself by looking at it, the bbc stating as fact that this woman of Nigerian origin is the 'darling of the right' of the party

This once great institution is now a literal joke (the bbc, but yes could also apply to the Conservative party!)

Priti Patel enters the race. On the extreme right of the party, she is as good a choice as Badenoch or Jenrick. All we need is Braverman to join the scrap for the extremists votes.

She wants to be the unity candidate,

Rather lacking in self awareness, but hey...

Patel has no chance of even coming 4th.

This is purely an attempt to stay relevant.



Yet to hear a candidate with any ideas on fixing the country.

Foinavon25 Jul 24 18:39Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 20,989 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
Is that so? You have a very warped view of the world

This from an upskirter ?  you want to check out your own warped views first

Kemi price steadily falling.

Will take my profit tomorrow. Whole thing is going to be a complete sh!tshow

Profit?

^^^^^^ The most deluded woman in the UK ^^^^^^

Profit?

Yes, every penny counts!

Final day for nominations tomorrow yet Badenoch not declared as yet. I wonder if she is struggling to find the ten MPs threshold required?

Braverman man can't find 10 nutjobs.

Reform here she comes.

Tory focus groups in over drive as candidates remain silent

Who seriously cares?

Foinavon
Foinavon25 Jul 24 18:39Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 21,049 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
Is that so? You have a very warped view of the world. I'm pleased not to be like the fascists who pile onto anyone who doesn't share their opinions and have recently caused two prolific posters to be banned


missing your perverted mates Foinavon ?

Cleverly once again turns in an impressive performance on sky.

Acts like a prime minister.

Good mix of what starmer got wrong and offer of support.

Not really

He was part of a Government that did not stop the boats and had colleagues fanning the flames that leaves us where we are today!

Well yeah, of course, but he put up a decent performance.

Patel being praised today for getting torn into Farage.

getting torn into Farage.

bak to skool.