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SirNorbertClarke
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From their 2024 manifesto;

SECURE BORDERS

Britain is a tolerant and compassionate country. We have a proud tradition of welcoming people fleeing persecution and abuse. Schemes like Homes for Ukraine, Hong Kong humanitarian visas, and the Syrian resettlement programme have provided important routes for refugees seeking sanctuary. But the system needs to be controlled and managed and we need strong borders. The small boats crisis, fuelled by dangerous criminal smuggler gangs, is undermining our security and costing lives.

Rather than a serious plan to confront this crisis, the Conservatives have offered nothing but desperate gimmicks. Their flagship policy – to fly a tiny number of asylum seekers
to Rwanda – has already cost hundreds of millions of pounds. Even if it got off the ground, this scheme can only address fewer than one per cent of the asylum seekers arriving. It cannot work. Chaos in the Channel has been matched by chaos at home. The Conservatives’ unworkable laws have created a ‘perma-backlog’ oftens of thousands of asylum seekers, who are indefinitely staying in hotels costing the taxpayer millions of pounds every week.

Labour will stop the chaos and go after the criminal gangs who trade in driving this crisis. We will create a new Border Security Command, with hundreds of new
investigators, intelligence officers, and cross-border police officers.
This will be funded by ending the wasteful Migration and Economic Development partnership with Rwanda. This new Command will work internationally and be supported by new counter-terrorism style powers, to pursue, disrupt, and arrest those responsible for the vile trade. We will seek a new security agreement with the EU to ensure access to real-time intelligence and enable our policing teams to lead joint investigations with their European counterparts. Labour will turn the page and restore order to the asylum system so that it operates swiftly, firmly, and fairly; and the rules are properly enforced. We will hire additional caseworkers to clear the Conservatives’ backlog and end asylum hotels, saving the taxpayer billions of pounds. Labour will set up a new returns and enforcement unit, with an additional 1,000 staff, to fast-track removals to safe countries for people who do not have the right to stay here. We will negotiate additional returns arrangements to speed up returns and increase the number of safe countries that failed asylum seekers can swiftly be sent back to. And we will also act upstream, working with international partners to address the humanitarian crises which lead people to flee their homes, and to strengthen support for refugees in their home region.
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Report SirNorbertClarke July 2, 2024 11:53 AM BST
So Labour are promising;

New Border Security Command, with hundreds of new investigators, intelligence officers, and cross-border police officers.

New counter-terrorism style powers,

New security agreement with the EU to ensure access to real-time intelligence and enable our policing teams to lead joint investigations with their European counterparts.

To clear the Conservatives’ backlog and end asylum hotels,

New returns and enforcement unit, with an additional 1,000 staff, to fast-track removals to safe countries
Report SirNorbertClarke July 2, 2024 12:01 PM BST
Success wiil be measured by;

Reduction of illegal immigrants arriving by small boats

Reduction of the asylum backlog (preferably not by waving them all through)

Savings of billions on asylum hotels

Increase in returns to safe countries
Report Johnny The Guesser July 2, 2024 12:35 PM BST
Read it carefully - How long will any of this take,  if it happens at all ?

They will set up something  , but it will achieve nothing.

How long does the public sector take to set up anything ? Are these then ever efficiently managed ?

Seek new agreements with the EU / negotiate returns agreements ? - Haha - really?

Good luck with that Sir Keir.

...and people fall for it.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 2, 2024 1:00 PM BST
I don't know anyone who thinks Labour's plan will work.

By this time next year if things haven't improved what's left of the Tory party will be tearing lumps out of Starmer.
Report flat16 July 2, 2024 1:08 PM BST
Kneeler lawyer mentions he will work with Le Penn if necessary to stop the small boats and the benefit seekers.
Naive fool ,Le Penn only wants rid ,like any sane leader.
Battling criminals on the beach ,stopping boats launching ,harassing them on French soil etc are all counter productive to her cause.
Best to follow Macrons' lead ,fast track them to the coast and look the other way.
Meloni/Orban and Tusk are aware and proactive to the problem ,the apathetic and the pathetic will be discarded, FO Sunak
Report Dr Crippen July 2, 2024 1:43 PM BST
Of course they won’t implement any of it because it’s contrary to Labour policy. Someone dreamed it up for him and said ‘’this sounds good, tell the suckers that.’’

Labour’s policy is open borders and mass immigration, just like the Tories. We only have to look at what they’ve done in the past.

Anyway they wouldn't let him, neither his MPs nor the civil service.

Welcome to the real world, Starmer.
Report flat16 July 2, 2024 1:58 PM BST
Seems to be a good way to cause major division.
The chosen men ,economic migrants ,benefit seekers from around the world.......in "new builds" ,expensive rental properties or social housing ,all presented to them.
Compared to the indigenous working people being heavily taxed ,expensive season tickets or stuck in traffic dodging the potholes ,never being able to afford a property  ,all the while crime increasing and overwhelmed public services disintegrating.
Every borough must house them and so many are coming......."we must build new towns".Jeremy Rayner
Report Jumper45 July 2, 2024 2:21 PM BST
If Labour can do this, they'll get back in, 4/5 years time. If they don't and it's all hogwash just to get elected, the public will turn on them pretty damned quick. I give Labour at least a 12 month honeymoon period.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 2, 2024 2:28 PM BST
Boat boat boat...
Report Cider July 2, 2024 3:28 PM BST
'small boats crisis'

more twisting of language

illegal immigrants is what they are.

the boats aren't even small!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 2, 2024 3:33 PM BST
Was a trickle until frog face farrage advertised the scheme.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 2, 2024 3:56 PM BST
LOL you can not blame Nigel the Nazi for the popularity of the UK with illegal immigrants

Illegals come to the UK because they can speak English, the benefit system is based on need not previous contributions and the law allows them to endlessly appeal deportation notices at no cost to themselves
Report Cider July 2, 2024 4:09 PM BST
land of milk and honey. where else would they get this level of red carpet treatment
Report Dr Crippen July 2, 2024 4:13 PM BST
Where else would the population stand for it, and keep voting for the same?
Report Cider July 2, 2024 4:16 PM BST
No we are world leading in virtue signalling. I saw illegal immigrants land in Ireland and they were sent back with a couple of hours.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 2, 2024 4:19 PM BST
You can literally taste the panic that another party might actually just fix this issue and that thing they've been fixated on for years and years might just be solved, but not by their hero but by their purported enemy. God, the damage to the worldview.
Report Dr Crippen July 2, 2024 4:23 PM BST
Labour fix the issue?

You mean, make it so easy to come here the illegals won't have to use the boats.
Report Cider July 2, 2024 4:27 PM BST
I couldn't care who fixes it. It's a bit of a stretch however to think the party that moves heaven and earth to prevent convicted criminals from being deported are going to volte-face once in power and do anything at all to send illegals back to France. Don't have to be a political genius to know that they are just saying whatever they think people want to hear to get into power right now. Just as the tory turncoats did in 2019
Report Cider July 2, 2024 4:29 PM BST
Yes Crip and the illegals already here will be given settled status. ie clear the backlogs, which tories have been doing already
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 2, 2024 4:31 PM BST
delicious
Report Cider July 2, 2024 4:36 PM BST
MORE THAN 60 MPs and peers have signed a letter to the home secretary calling for a deportation flight scheduled to leave the UK for Jamaica on Wednesday to be cancelled.

MPs Diane Abbott, Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Kate Osamor, Claudia Webbe and Dawn Butler are all among those who have signed the letter, which has been coordinated by Clive Lewis, the Labour MP for Norwich South.
Report flat16 July 2, 2024 4:36 PM BST
The UK "system" is appalling anybody can arrive and with a unchecked ,undocumented series of lies and scams and half decent free legal advice can get residency and benefits.
Only the physical and financial challenge of the English channel was going to protect us from our own wokery.
Instead of using our historical birthright ,a combination of the the French navy escorting them to half way and the conservative enabled 24/7 flotilla of million pound "water taxis" awaits to bring them here almost daily.
Add in the average persons ignorance in understanding the enormity of African and Asian populations and incredulous birthrates ,some even think this is temporary situation as there are a few "conflicts in Africa".
Wake up.......There are tens of millions who would like to come and there are full blown wars in Africa every minute of every century.
To trust Starmer stopping them is like trying to stop a fart with a tennis bat.
Report Foinavon July 2, 2024 4:37 PM BST
They will come to an arrangement with the EU to quietly take even more from the mainland and smother comment about it as much as possible. I suspect there will be fewer immigrants from Hong Kong, Indochina and Ukraine which will make the figures look better.
Report shiny new shoes please July 2, 2024 4:37 PM BST
Tory peer accused of ‘profiting from small boat crisis ]Laugh
Report SirNorbertClarke July 2, 2024 4:45 PM BST
PP
You can literally taste the panic that another party might actually just fix this issue



I don't think anyone is panicking about Starmer stopping the small boats issue.
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