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Reform UK has made an official complaint against Channel 4 amid a row over footage of one of the party’s canvassers.
Andrew Parker, a part-time actor who lists “secret filming” among his skills, was shown in a Channel 4 News bulletin using a racial slur against Rishi Sunak.
Nigel Farage has said he wanted nothing to do with Reform candidates who have been exposed as racists – but claimed the incident involving Mr Parker was staged, prompting Channel 4 to stand by its reporting.
Adam Richardson, the Reform secretary and a barrister, said he had also made a formal complaint to Essex Police on behalf of Mr Farage.
In his letter to the Electoral Commission, Mr Richardson said it was “entirely evident that Mr Parker was a plant within the Channel 4 News piece”.
“It is wholly unbelievable that by complete coincidence Channel 4 were performing an undercover investigation and by chance were paired up to go canvassing with a man who was pretending to be someone else, using a false voice and saying almost exclusively racist and bigoted remarks.
“The Channel 4 broadcast has clearly been made to harm Reform UK during an election period, and this cannot be described as anything short of election interference.
“It is entirely untrue that Mr Parker had any connection with Mr Farage as he details in the documentary, and has obviously attempted to use this fictional association to smear him in the national media and damage his campaign.”
When told Reform had reported Channel 4 to the Electoral Commission, Mr Parker said: “Good – I’m glad.”
Mr Parker declined to say whether he had been paid by Channel 4 to appear in the footage. The broadcaster denies that any payment was made. “It’ll all come out in the papers,” he told the PA news agency. “What’ll come out is the truth.”
A spokesman for Channel 4 News said: “We strongly stand by our rigorous and duly impartial journalism, which speaks for itself.
“We met Mr Parker for the first time at Reform UK party headquarters, where he was a Reform party canvasser. We did not pay the Reform UK canvasser or anyone else in this report. Mr Parker was not known to Channel 4 News, and was filmed covertly via the undercover operation.”
Andrew Parker, a part-time actor who lists “secret filming” among his skills, was shown in a Channel 4 News bulletin using a racial slur against Rishi Sunak.
Nigel Farage has said he wanted nothing to do with Reform candidates who have been exposed as racists – but claimed the incident involving Mr Parker was staged, prompting Channel 4 to stand by its reporting.
Adam Richardson, the Reform secretary and a barrister, said he had also made a formal complaint to Essex Police on behalf of Mr Farage.
In his letter to the Electoral Commission, Mr Richardson said it was “entirely evident that Mr Parker was a plant within the Channel 4 News piece”.
“It is wholly unbelievable that by complete coincidence Channel 4 were performing an undercover investigation and by chance were paired up to go canvassing with a man who was pretending to be someone else, using a false voice and saying almost exclusively racist and bigoted remarks.
“The Channel 4 broadcast has clearly been made to harm Reform UK during an election period, and this cannot be described as anything short of election interference.
“It is entirely untrue that Mr Parker had any connection with Mr Farage as he details in the documentary, and has obviously attempted to use this fictional association to smear him in the national media and damage his campaign.”
When told Reform had reported Channel 4 to the Electoral Commission, Mr Parker said: “Good – I’m glad.”
Mr Parker declined to say whether he had been paid by Channel 4 to appear in the footage. The broadcaster denies that any payment was made. “It’ll all come out in the papers,” he told the PA news agency. “What’ll come out is the truth.”
A spokesman for Channel 4 News said: “We strongly stand by our rigorous and duly impartial journalism, which speaks for itself.
“We met Mr Parker for the first time at Reform UK party headquarters, where he was a Reform party canvasser. We did not pay the Reform UK canvasser or anyone else in this report. Mr Parker was not known to Channel 4 News, and was filmed covertly via the undercover operation.”
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Reform appointed the reporter to the racist.
Ha ha ha, what's the chances the reporter got appointed to a racist
amongst all of them canvasers he could have been placed with.
Ha ha ha, what's the chances the reporter got appointed to a racist
amongst all of them canvasers he could have been placed with.
The kool aid drinkers will lap it up, like you.
Christ, does Farage ever stop whingeing? Seeing as he's been a career politician for decades you'd have hoped he'd develop something of a thicker skin.
So used to just living in his little bubble of adoring fans he can't handle any scrutiny at all and can't wait to get his lawyers involved. What an embarrassment.
So used to just living in his little bubble of adoring fans he can't handle any scrutiny at all and can't wait to get his lawyers involved. What an embarrassment.
Hmmm. So engineering a fake racist story to be broadcast the day before Farage was scheduled to appear on QT, so that the establishment could organise a pile on to directly interfere with a general election is all fine with you?
I have just been invited to appear on Laura Kuenssberg.
I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest QT audience.
Our state broadcaster has behaved like a political actor throughout this election.
Full trump/bannon
I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest QT audience.
Our state broadcaster has behaved like a political actor throughout this election.
Full trump/bannon
Why is it "So engineering a fake racist story to be broadcast" instead of "So possibly engineering a fake racist story to be broadcast" for a man for whom fact and substance are most essential?
Reform employed the racist
Reform placed reporter with racist
A set up.... Ha ha ha
Free tin foil hat with each pint of kool aid
Reform placed reporter with racist
A set up.... Ha ha ha
Free tin foil hat with each pint of kool aid
Why is it "So engineering a fake racist story to be broadcast" instead of "So possibly engineering a fake racist story to be broadcast" for a man for whom fact and substance are most essential?
To believe these are all random incidences would be enormously stupid.
The fake filming production co is run by a former Labour candidate, so it appears.
At least three of the stooges on QT have already identified as liberalist plants.
To believe these are all random incidences would be enormously stupid.
The fake filming production co is run by a former Labour candidate, so it appears.
At least three of the stooges on QT have already identified as liberalist plants.
The first thing I would demand to see is all of the filming that led to nothing, ie no 1970s caricature racist.
Somehow, I suspect, there is none.
Somehow, I suspect, there is none.
Will be fun seeing this play out, Farage got top banking heads on a stake, now it will be the posturing luvvies :)
Be a man of fan and substance and help people learn beyond your one-liner on it.
It's quite nice in this day and age, a time where we have so much info at our fingertips and have become so cold and cynical that there are still some people who will still totally follow and parrot some lines because their fave guy told them to. Takes me back to my primary school days. Nice.
Sounds like the guy involved will be in one of the sunday papers tomorrow. Will probably be quite informative. Not that some of us need any more information obviously.
Found 3 more actors
Reform UK has withdrawn support from three of its parliamentary candidates as the racism row engulfing the party continues to grow.
The party led by Nigel Farage is no longer supporting Edward Oakenfull, who is standing in Derbyshire Dales, Robert Lomas, a candidate in Barnsley North, and Leslie Lilley, standing in Southend East and Rochford, after alleged comments made by them emerged in the media.
Reform UK has withdrawn support from three of its parliamentary candidates as the racism row engulfing the party continues to grow.
The party led by Nigel Farage is no longer supporting Edward Oakenfull, who is standing in Derbyshire Dales, Robert Lomas, a candidate in Barnsley North, and Leslie Lilley, standing in Southend East and Rochford, after alleged comments made by them emerged in the media.
Do you just want it to be true that they just happened to luck out fall upon this archaic defrosted caricature of a racist who just turned up at Farage's office, who just happened to be an actor, who just happened to be talking in his fake voice and not his usual voice, who just happened to be a specialist in fake filming, who just happened to have done prior work for C4. Who just happened to deny he was an actor when first asked. And this just happened to be broadcast the night before Farage's appearance on QT by the other state broadcaster.
Righty ho.
Righty ho.
Jun 29, 2024 -- 6:16PM, Cider wrote:
My Dad was a toolmaker, my wife works in the NHS.
Well, he certainly made a tool.
Do you just want it to be true that they just happened to luck out fall upon this archaic defrosted caricature of a racist who just turned up at Farage's office, who just happened to be an actor, who just happened to be talking in his fake voice and not his usual voice, who just happened to be a specialist in fake filming, who just happened to have done prior work for C4. Who just happened to deny he was an actor when first asked. And this just happened to be broadcast the night before Farage's appearance on QT by the other state broadcaster
Reform allocated the reporter to this canvasser.
Reform allocated the reporter to this canvasser.
Afternoon Charlie, good to see you've taken your sanatogen for the day.
Oakenfull has been suspended after reportedly having written social media posts about the IQ of sub-Saharan Africans - which he told the BBC were "taken out of context".
Could have got it off betfair forum actors
Could have got it off betfair forum actors
Did you make the liberalist plant stooges up or why do you not want to talk about it all of a sudden?
We look forward to all of the racist Labour candidates being suspended. The list is long, could take a while to be fair.
Meanwhile, Lomas said black people should "get off [their] lazy arses" and stop acting "like savages", The Times reported.
Another actor, caricature of 70s racist,
Another actor, caricature of 70s racist,
Lilley, according to the newspaper, described people arriving on small boats as "scum", adding: "I hope your family get robbed, beaten or attacked."
Deffo posts on here as a 70s racist
Deffo posts on here as a 70s racist
Labour's Clacton Candidate Says He's Running "For Every Black And Brown Person" In UK
Here's a 2020's variety
Here's a 2020's variety
Not suspended, unlike the ruk examples. Maybe keith needs more time.
Jun 29, 2024 -- 6:27PM, edy wrote:
Did you make the liberalist plant stooges up or why do you not want to talk about it all of a sudden?
Please don't go to the liberalist handbook yet again, Cider.
I demand that we find a non racist Reform supporter! Surely there has to be one somewhere?
Eight Green Party Members Expelled in Alleged Gender Critical Purge
Eight members of the Green Party, including one former councillor, claim to have been expelled from the party for expressing gender critical views.
This week, eight members received a letter notifying them of their expulsion from the party. The letter claimed they had broken a clause of the party constitution which prohibits members from campaigning for someone who is standing against a Green Party candidate.
Seven of the eight members expelled had supported the campaign of Alison Teal, who was suspended from the Green Party in 2022 for arguing that sex is a biological characteristic which cannot change over time. She is now running as an Independent in Sheffield Central at the General Election.
blimey, bbc would love this
Eight members of the Green Party, including one former councillor, claim to have been expelled from the party for expressing gender critical views.
This week, eight members received a letter notifying them of their expulsion from the party. The letter claimed they had broken a clause of the party constitution which prohibits members from campaigning for someone who is standing against a Green Party candidate.
Seven of the eight members expelled had supported the campaign of Alison Teal, who was suspended from the Green Party in 2022 for arguing that sex is a biological characteristic which cannot change over time. She is now running as an Independent in Sheffield Central at the General Election.
blimey, bbc would love this
Here's the plant, actor out canvassing for refuk in April of this year.
How on earth wasn't he spotted...
https://x.com/heywoodrob31/status/1806744102504956103?s=19
Well camouflaged...
How on earth wasn't he spotted...
https://x.com/heywoodrob31/status/1806744102504956103?s=19
Well camouflaged...
.https://www.youtube.com/live/74KB-9nHoqs?feature=shared&t=291
:)
:)
Ominously, my paper reports today that support for Reform may have already reached its peak. Reform are against proportional representation so, in all liklihood, a wasted vote for Reform should facilitate a thumping majority for Labour in Westminster.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/28/reforms-polling-sur...
Jun 29, 2024 -- 6:59PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:
Here's the plant, actor out canvassing for refuk in April of this year.How on earth wasn't he spotted...https://x.com/heywoodrob31/status/1806744102504956103?s=19Well camouflaged...
Parker is 6 foot 2 inches.
Have another go.
There is always a chance democracy takes another turn re Farage before Thursday (many interested parties). Bearing that in mind, Reform look a lay in Clacton @ 1.17.
I saw all this coming, as outlined in the clacton thread. Once ignoring him didn't work, they reached for the nefarious playbook. And definitely can't rule out manipulating the vote. They will do literally anything to keep him out of westminster.
Let it go about Parker, the damage is done, Cider.
You might as well be quoting the beano - Let me quote the front pages of The Mail and Express:
"Boris says we can still avoid Starmergeddon." - Mail.
and The Express led with a sympathy piece for Sunak's daughters.
There is still a wide demographic influenced by these papers.
You might as well be quoting the beano - Let me quote the front pages of The Mail and Express:
"Boris says we can still avoid Starmergeddon." - Mail.
and The Express led with a sympathy piece for Sunak's daughters.
There is still a wide demographic influenced by these papers.
I’ve decided after seeing the way Nigel Farrage has been treated, I’m going to put a cross in the Reform box as well as the Tory box and I suggest all right wing colleagues do the same
Obviously, it's a pincer movement, these publications shill for the Tories. Labour supporting hacks and broadcasters know Labour maj is safe so can freely pile in on Reform. Personally I don't feel like the Labour shills want a total Tory destruction, just a fatally wounded animal. As they need a thin veneer of apparently genuine opposition.
My instinct is that it won't be damaging to Reform, as we were here in 2016 and seen this play before. I'm pretty confident RUK will get a really strong vote share, but simply could not trust the Farage count to be accurate.
My instinct is that it won't be damaging to Reform, as we were here in 2016 and seen this play before. I'm pretty confident RUK will get a really strong vote share, but simply could not trust the Farage count to be accurate.
Can't Reform UK have its own counters or count observers there?
It's postal voting that can be manipulated. I'm just coming from a betting perspective. No way Tories or the racist Labour candidate wins a fair fight there, but the odds are not big enough to justify the risk involved in trusting the reported count.
Oh, so the count itself will be accurate, but that count will include Ferrari loads of illegitimate postal votes.
There were when the Democrats cheated in the USA. Timber brought the news about it to the forum.
The Tories got criminally convicted for cheating the last time Farage ran.
I just have a premonition that another negative Reform/Farage story is going to blow up before Thursday. A lay at 1.2
Tory party employee Marion Little, 63, was given a suspended sentence after being found guilty of two charges.
Little, who had effectively run the 2015 election campaign, was found guilty of two counts of encouraging or assisting an offence, but cleared of a third.
The long-time Tory party member, from Ware, Hertfordshire, had "acted dishonestly by preparing returns she knew were not completed nor accurate," Judge Mr Justice Edis said.
He described Little as being "a senior and respected employee of the Conservative Party at its Central Headquarters and has been so for many years", and said her actions were a "sustained and deliberate course of conduct".
i mean, yup. It's all a conspiracy.
Little, who had effectively run the 2015 election campaign, was found guilty of two counts of encouraging or assisting an offence, but cleared of a third.
The long-time Tory party member, from Ware, Hertfordshire, had "acted dishonestly by preparing returns she knew were not completed nor accurate," Judge Mr Justice Edis said.
He described Little as being "a senior and respected employee of the Conservative Party at its Central Headquarters and has been so for many years", and said her actions were a "sustained and deliberate course of conduct".
i mean, yup. It's all a conspiracy.
Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, has been fined £200 for breaking electoral law after he failed to declare that he was getting office space free.
Spending more campaign funds than allowed is a bit different to driving in fake ballots, is it not?
One of the people in the Channel 4 hit piece, someone who is not a canvasser (Rob Bates), was coincidentally running his mouth about having had exceeded the spending limit already for Farage. Although it was dismissed as a joke and Reform UK itself also denied it.
There was also this
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/17/eu-set-to-ask-ukip-group-to-repay-almost-150000-in-misspent-funds
.
One of the people in the Channel 4 hit piece, someone who is not a canvasser (Rob Bates), was coincidentally running his mouth about having had exceeded the spending limit already for Farage. Although it was dismissed as a joke and Reform UK itself also denied it.
There was also this
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/17/eu-set-to-ask-ukip-group-to-repay-almost-150000-in-misspent-funds
.
I'm stating that I don't trust them not to. It's more unlikely than likely but for the marginal gain related to the risk, not worth it.
Hmm, worrying. Could be a long four days for Reform.
As the judge noted, it was a 'sustained and deliberate course of conduct'. That's not a filing mistake, they deliberately and systematically cheated and the only reason to do that is to influence the vote.
Ten or fifteen, if Reform keep splitting the vote, Cider.
There has to be a reckoning, it's coming.
Badenock chose to go for an all out vicious ad hominem attack today, this is not remotely a small c conservative thing to do, and I mistakenly thought she was better than that. Selling herself out to appeal to the wet wipes post election, unbelievable. It evidences how utterly desperate they are at Tory towers, the panic is bedded in, and they are effectively dead as a political force. I don't suppose anyone knows exactly how this plays out, but the actual results will inform it.
Badenock chose to go for an all out vicious ad hominem attack today, this is not remotely a small c conservative thing to do, and I mistakenly thought she was better than that. Selling herself out to appeal to the wet wipes post election, unbelievable. It evidences how utterly desperate they are at Tory towers, the panic is bedded in, and they are effectively dead as a political force. I don't suppose anyone knows exactly how this plays out, but the actual results will inform it.
The Times interview where she said Farage is just in it to be centre of attention basically?
Jun 29, 2024 -- 10:09PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
so tewwibly unfair
Not unfair, but all out vicious. Very akin to when back in the day Miliband and Clegg called Farage a quisling already.
On Wednesday, Essex Police said “no criminal offences” had been committed by those who were filmed in the report.
“Having assessed the comments made during a Channel 4 news programme, and all other information available to us, we have concluded that no criminal offences have taken place,” it said in a statement.
who saw that coming
“Having assessed the comments made during a Channel 4 news programme, and all other information available to us, we have concluded that no criminal offences have taken place,” it said in a statement.
who saw that coming
He's an actor, lol, of course no laws were broken...
It's perfectly legal to call Sunak a p**'
Otherwise 12-15% of population would be in court...
Conservative Bob Stewart has announced he will step down as MP for Beckenham after being convicted of a racially aggravated public order offence.
Last month, Westminster Magistrates' Court heard Mr Stewart had been attending an event hosted by the Bahraini Embassy when Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei shouted: "Bob Stewart, for how much did you sell yourself to the Bahraini regime?"
The MP, who was stationed in Bahrain as an Army officer in the 1960s, told the campaigner to "get stuffed" and added: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."
Mr Alwadaei - the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy - challenged Stewart on his connections with the country, asking whether he had accepted any money from the Bahraini government.
Mr Stewart replied: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."
This was eventually quashed (rightly), but that's how low the police's bar is. The actor on c4 was multiple times worse then this.
and all other information available to us
I think we can guess what that info was.
Last month, Westminster Magistrates' Court heard Mr Stewart had been attending an event hosted by the Bahraini Embassy when Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei shouted: "Bob Stewart, for how much did you sell yourself to the Bahraini regime?"
The MP, who was stationed in Bahrain as an Army officer in the 1960s, told the campaigner to "get stuffed" and added: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."
Mr Alwadaei - the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy - challenged Stewart on his connections with the country, asking whether he had accepted any money from the Bahraini government.
Mr Stewart replied: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."
This was eventually quashed (rightly), but that's how low the police's bar is. The actor on c4 was multiple times worse then this.
and all other information available to us
I think we can guess what that info was.
In March 2020, Stewart was accused of fuelling xenophobia after he described COVID-19 as a "foul Chinese illness" in a Facebook post. Stewart said: "My grandfather died of Spanish flu in 1919 and I used the word Chinese Flu in respect of where the virus originated. As a constituent emailed me and thought I was being rude about the Chinese I deleted the word 'Chinese' because that was not my intention."
In July 2021, Stewart was one of five Conservative MPs found by the Commons Select Committee on Standards to have breached the code of conduct by writing to the Lord Chief Justice to try to influence a judge not to release character statements made by ordinary members of the public – former constituents of the former Conservative MP Charlie Elphicke, who had previously been found guilty of three counts of sexual assault and sentenced to two years in prison.[65] Stewart reportedly wrote to the judge saying Elphicke's sentence should take into account his hard work as an MP, and described his crimes as "folly".[66] On 22 July 2021, Stewart made a personal statement in the House of Commons apologising.
In November 2023, Stewart announced that he would not be seeking re-election at the next general election.[67]
Self entitled scum.
In July 2021, Stewart was one of five Conservative MPs found by the Commons Select Committee on Standards to have breached the code of conduct by writing to the Lord Chief Justice to try to influence a judge not to release character statements made by ordinary members of the public – former constituents of the former Conservative MP Charlie Elphicke, who had previously been found guilty of three counts of sexual assault and sentenced to two years in prison.[65] Stewart reportedly wrote to the judge saying Elphicke's sentence should take into account his hard work as an MP, and described his crimes as "folly".[66] On 22 July 2021, Stewart made a personal statement in the House of Commons apologising.
In November 2023, Stewart announced that he would not be seeking re-election at the next general election.[67]
Self entitled scum.
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