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By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 20:00
Ominously, my paper reports today that support for Reform may have already reached its peak. Reform are against proportional representation so, in all liklihood, a wasted vote for Reform should facilitate a thumping majority for Labour in Westminster.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 20:00
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/28/reforms-polling-surge-threatens-tory-seats-but-has-it-hit-its-peak
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 20:11
You might as well be quoting the beano
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 20:41

Jun 29, 2024 -- 12:59PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Here's the plant, actor out canvassing for refuk in April of this year.How on earth wasn't he spotted...https://x.com/heywoodrob31/status/1806744102504956103?s=19Well camouflaged...


Parker is 6 foot 2 inches.

Have another go.

By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 20:42
There is always a chance democracy takes another turn re Farage before Thursday (many interested parties). Bearing that in mind, Reform look a lay in Clacton @ 1.17.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 20:45
I saw all this coming, as outlined in the clacton thread. Once ignoring him didn't work, they reached for the nefarious playbook. And definitely can't rule out manipulating the vote. They will do literally anything to keep him out of westminster.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Jun 24 20:47
You racists can have your own Jan 6th
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 20:48
Let it go about Parker, the damage is done, Cider.

You might as well be quoting the beano - Let me quote the front pages of The Mail and Express:

"Boris says we can still avoid Starmergeddon." - Mail.
and The Express led with a sympathy piece for Sunak's daughters.

There is still a wide demographic influenced by these papers.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Jun 24 20:52
I’ve decided after seeing the way Nigel Farrage has been treated, I’m going to put a cross in the Reform box as well as the Tory box and I suggest all right wing colleagues do the same
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 20:57
Obviously, it's a pincer movement, these publications shill for the Tories. Labour supporting hacks and broadcasters know Labour maj is safe so can freely pile in on Reform. Personally I don't feel like the Labour shills want a total Tory destruction, just a fatally wounded animal. As they need a thin veneer of apparently genuine opposition.

My instinct is that it won't be damaging to Reform, as we were here in 2016 and seen this play before. I'm pretty confident RUK will get a really strong vote share, but simply could not trust the Farage count to be accurate.
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 21:04
Can't Reform UK have its own counters or count observers there?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Jun 24 21:06
it's all so tewwibly tewwibly unfair
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:11
It's postal voting that can be manipulated. I'm just coming from a betting perspective. No way Tories or the racist Labour candidate wins a fair fight there, but the odds are not big enough to justify the risk involved in trusting the reported count.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Jun 24 21:13
Ha ha ha
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 21:13
Oh, so the count itself will be accurate, but that count will include Ferrari loads of illegitimate postal votes.
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 21:16
Or might include rather.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:18
No sports cars involved.
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 21:19
There were when the Democrats cheated in the USA. Timber brought the news about it to the forum.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:21
The Tories got criminally convicted for cheating the last time Farage ran.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 21:23
I just have a premonition that another negative Reform/Farage story is going to blow up before Thursday. A lay at 1.2
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:24
Tory party employee Marion Little, 63, was given a suspended sentence after being found guilty of two charges.

Little, who had effectively run the 2015 election campaign, was found guilty of two counts of encouraging or assisting an offence, but cleared of a third.

The long-time Tory party member, from Ware, Hertfordshire, had "acted dishonestly by preparing returns she knew were not completed nor accurate," Judge Mr Justice Edis said.

He described Little as being "a senior and respected employee of the Conservative Party at its Central Headquarters and has been so for many years", and said her actions were a "sustained and deliberate course of conduct".


i mean, yup. It's all a conspiracy.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Jun 24 21:27
Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, has been fined ÂŁ200 for breaking electoral law after he failed to declare that he was getting office space free.
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 21:35
Spending more campaign funds than allowed is a bit different to driving in fake ballots, is it not?

One of the people in the Channel 4 hit piece, someone who is not a canvasser (Rob Bates), was coincidentally running his mouth about having had exceeded the spending limit already for Farage. Although it was dismissed as a joke and Reform UK itself also denied it.

There was also this

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/17/eu-set-to-ask-ukip-group-to-repay-almost-150000-in-misspent-funds

.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:39
I'm stating that I don't trust them not to. It's more unlikely than likely but for the marginal gain related to the risk, not worth it.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 21:40
Hmm, worrying. Could be a long four days for Reform.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:42
As the judge noted, it was a 'sustained and deliberate course of conduct'. That's not a filing mistake, they deliberately and systematically cheated and the only reason to do that is to influence the vote.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:43
Could be a long 5 years for the Tories
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jun 24 21:46
Ten or fifteen, if Reform keep splitting the vote, Cider.
By:
Cider
When: 29 Jun 24 21:54
There has to be a reckoning, it's coming.

Badenock chose to go for an all out vicious ad hominem attack today, this is not remotely a small c conservative thing to do, and I mistakenly thought she was better than that. Selling herself out to appeal to the wet wipes post election, unbelievable. It evidences how utterly desperate they are at Tory towers, the panic is bedded in, and they are effectively dead as a political force. I don't suppose anyone knows exactly how this plays out, but the actual results will inform it.
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 22:03
The Times interview where she said Farage is just in it to be centre of attention basically?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Jun 24 22:09
so tewwibly unfair
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Jun 24 22:11
Messy divorce
By:
edy
When: 29 Jun 24 22:25

Jun 29, 2024 -- 4:09PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


so tewwibly unfair


Not unfair, but all out vicious. Very akin to when back in the day Miliband and Clegg called Farage a quisling already.

By:
Cider
When: 03 Jul 24 19:19
On Wednesday, Essex Police said “no criminal offences” had been committed by those who were filmed in the report.

“Having assessed the comments made during a Channel 4 news programme, and all other information available to us, we have concluded that no criminal offences have taken place,” it said in a statement.



who saw that coming PlainCryLaugh
By:
xmoneyx
When: 03 Jul 24 19:38
ofcom

270 complains
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Jul 24 19:40
He's an actor, lol, of course no laws were broken...
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Jul 24 19:41
It's perfectly legal to call Sunak a p**'
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 03 Jul 24 19:42
Don't complain, vote Lib Dem
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Jul 24 19:43
Otherwise 12-15% of population would be in court...
By:
Cider
When: 03 Jul 24 19:52
Conservative Bob Stewart has announced he will step down as MP for Beckenham after being convicted of a racially aggravated public order offence.

Last month, Westminster Magistrates' Court heard Mr Stewart had been attending an event hosted by the Bahraini Embassy when Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei shouted: "Bob Stewart, for how much did you sell yourself to the Bahraini regime?"

The MP, who was stationed in Bahrain as an Army officer in the 1960s, told the campaigner to "get stuffed" and added: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."

Mr Alwadaei - the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy - challenged Stewart on his connections with the country, asking whether he had accepted any money from the Bahraini government.

Mr Stewart replied: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."


This was eventually quashed (rightly), but that's how low the police's bar is. The actor on c4 was multiple times worse then this.

and all other information available to us

I think we can guess what that info was.
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