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Me? It's a long shot but if Michael Fabricant gets the boot that would certainly put a smile on my face Happy
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Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 11:59 AM BST
Yet more foinirony, delicious

You idiots destroyed the tories and now destroying swivel
eyed loons via Hitler fans
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:00 PM BST
So....Tories would have nothing to gain from abandoning their centre-right wing.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:01 PM BST
the truth is they have had little to oppose once "no deal" Brexit was off the table (as it always was).




Ha ha ha,
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:02 PM BST
#NoDealNoProblem (except if we had actually gone through with it)
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:02 PM BST
You make as much sense as Biden, have you not taken your meds this morning?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:03 PM BST
It's your post, I'm laughing at, idiot
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:04 PM BST
The way Brexit was likened by some to a game of poker where you don't show your hands was tragic. As if the respective sides didn't employ bunches of analysts. There is no hiding hands in things like that.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:05 PM BST
So a bluff becomes kind of easy to call.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Sorry edy, I was addressing my fool. No deal was a sham, the tories were not going to implement it even though it would have been the best policy. Taking it off the table was like showing your hand at poker while still bidding. Foolishness in the extreme.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:06 PM BST
....but the Brexit poker game is a game with everyone knowing the cards you hold.
Report Cider June 29, 2024 12:07 PM BST
Rishi Sunak says he is "disappointed" his bill banning young people from ever being able to smoke legally will not pass before the general election.

The Tobacco and Vapes Bill, external is not included in the legislation being rushed through by MPs ahead of Parliament shutting down on Friday.

Selling tobacco to anyone born after 1 January 2009 would have become illegal.

But Mr Sunak said the bill was "evidence of the bold action that I'm prepared to take".

"That's the type of prime minister I am. That's the type of leadership that I bring.

"I stepped up to do something that is bold, that will make an enormous difference in the future of our country."


:)
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:08 PM BST
Tory cards on table, they folded them then tried to raise the pot, all in.

Foinirony thinking wow that's cool...
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:10 PM BST
Yes, but you don't discard your aces. The one nation tories like traitor May are Remainers, one has to wonder about their ulterior motives.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:11 PM BST
The aces in this scenario being that the EU knows your cards and that you are bluffing?
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:12 PM BST
That indeed even the ERG things #NoDealYesProblem?
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:12 PM BST
thinks
Report Cider June 29, 2024 12:14 PM BST
There was a 'fireside' chat between these types on times radio. Quite amusing as it's as if they forgot anyone was listening. The plan in the Tory hierarchy after the cull is to remove Tory members from having an input whatsoever so that the remaining MPs can pick their leader. That plan will wipe out any remaining members who aren't pushing up daisies :)
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:16 PM BST
They should have been prepared to implement the aces unless they got a much better deal. They not only didn't want to but they told the EU so while still negotiating.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:17 PM BST
The EU didn't need to be told with them being perfectly aware of the cards in the game.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:18 PM BST
That's what they did regarding Sunak, cider, and look how that worked out. I'm glad they are going to be history, they don't deserve any support.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:20 PM BST
There was a 'fireside' chat between these types on times radio. Quite amusing as it's as if they forgot anyone was listening. The plan in the Tory hierarchy after the cull is to remove Tory members from having an input whatsoever so that the remaining MPs can pick their leader. That plan will wipe out any remaining members who aren't pushing up daisies



Refuk, don't do leadership elections, pay here, don't vote


Unelected leaders, you couldn't make it up...
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:22 PM BST
A WTO terms Brexit and no level playing field would be much better long term. If the Celtic fringe countries want to vote for independence and rejoin the EU (supposing they would have them) even better.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:24 PM BST
The Celtic fringe countries are what made Britain a powerhorse. The English leeched off their ingenuity. Some respect to James Watt please.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:26 PM BST
Foinavon • June 29, 2024 12:22 PM BST
A WTO terms Brexit and no level playing field would be much better long term.


Also, telling voters "hey, in 200 years it will have paid off....maybe" is not a vote winner.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:27 PM BST
James Watt is buried just up the road from me in Handsworth a suburb of Birmingham, England.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:27 PM BST
Like, Farage would not have brought Brexit if he had told folk that lives might possibly be better in 200 years.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:28 PM BST

Jun 29, 2024 -- 12:27PM, Foinavon wrote:


James Watt is buried just up the road from me in Handsworth a suburb of Birmingham, England.


See? The English even leeched and stole his corpse.

Report Cider June 29, 2024 12:28 PM BST
Someone who professes to be an expert in politics, comparing a party starting from nothing to the Tories Crazy

I suppose you would have been betting against Farage winning a leadership contest. Do us a favour Grin

The pan is already outlined to build up to 2029, when there should be the typical organisation of a political party. One wag said what they have tried to do in the last few weeks is akin to building a plane whilst it is on the runway in the process of taking off.
Report Cider June 29, 2024 12:29 PM BST
plan
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:31 PM BST
The benefits would already be showing and we would be more respected rather than continue to be seen as a vassal state. There is no future being at the mercy of the Brussels Politburo and following their stupid energy policy. They could now turn off 20% of our power overnight if we don't toe the line.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:31 PM BST
Why make stuff up cider

You just look like a racist who is racist because he's thick and
flapping around for an excuse.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:31 PM BST
I don't think anybody outside of a fringe of Brexiters view the UK as a vassal state.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 12:32 PM BST
They need us more than we need them foinirony busted.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:34 PM BST
Or let's say "barely anyone outside of". Among billions of people there are bound to be some.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:37 PM BST
James Watt has a chapel in St Mary's church where scientists like me can make a pilgrimage.
He was born in Scotland but came to Birmingham to team up with Matthew Bolton to develop the steam engine. Do come and have a look next time you are in England.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:37 PM BST
Have the naysayers really succeeded into deluding part of the local population into thinking the UK is not an internationally heralded and hugely respected country? Shades of MAGA here where the US are supposed to be disrespected.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:38 PM BST
Bolton was primarily the commercialisation, wasn't it? Development was still done in Scotland.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:40 PM BST

Jun 29, 2024 -- 12:37PM, edy wrote:


Have the naysayers really succeeded into deluding part of the local population into thinking the UK is not an internationally heralded and hugely respected country? Shades of MAGA here where the US are supposed to be disrespected.


...Or are you one of those people that are just fishing for compliments from marveling foreigners....?

Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:55 PM BST
He built his first steam engine in Glasgow and all the practical development and commercialisation was done in Birmingham.
Report edy June 29, 2024 12:59 PM BST
With Scottish ingenuity.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 12:59 PM BST
Ah, I see my fool is still twittering on about Reform and Brexit, he's easily triggered. The bells on his hat are ringing merrily as he nods and shakes his head like a true lefty. Dance to my tune oh fool.Happy
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 1:01 PM BST
He's long dead edy, many Scots want to leave and rejoin the EU you must have noticed. If I could vote with them I would.
Report edy June 29, 2024 1:03 PM BST
Just saying one of history's most important developments not only for Britain, but the entire world, was done by someone from a celtic fringe country. And that's far from the only really cool and awesome invention involving celtic fringers. They are cool really. Also tend to be better behaved.
Report edy June 29, 2024 1:09 PM BST
Apart from Aberdonians. Being in constant battles for survival with sea gulls does something to your psyche and mental well-being.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 3:36 PM BST
No deal off the table because it was never on it so now we will
be worse off because it's off the table


Ha ha ha
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 4:13 PM BST
I realise that it's a difficult concept for your tiny disingenuous remoaner brain but the treacherous Tories were never going to do it anyway. It's nothing for you to worry about as Labour will be even bigger sell-out merchants, exactly what you want. Be happy and pay your taxes.
Report casemoney June 29, 2024 4:13 PM BST
1 in 5 will be getting replaced by a Red Tory Laugh Lets have a look at the History of some of this shower that will be voted in Grin

Your all being Mugged LABOUR PARTY ,ME BOLLIX
Report edy June 29, 2024 5:01 PM BST
Foinavon • June 29, 2024 4:13 PM BST
I realise that it's a difficult concept for your tiny disingenuous remoaner brain but the treacherous Tories were never going to do it anyway.


Not all remoaniacs are disingenuous. Let us please not assume that political opponents cannot be both intelligent and honest.
Report morpteh mackem June 29, 2024 5:06 PM BST
trevelyan -north northumberland will be a popular loss. Cool
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 5:32 PM BST
I wasn't referring to all remoaniacs edy. Even people of above average intelligence can be misguided.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 5:34 PM BST
How can Labour take it off the table if it was never on

Are you really that thick that you were the only one
that didn't know it was only a leaked bluff

You truly are a great replacement for lfc
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 5:39 PM BST
Some wonder why the labour party have been such a feeble opposition, the truth is they have had little to oppose once "no deal" Brexit was off the table (as it always was).

A decent opposition would be 10 points ahead in the polls

But the above post is just desperate, tbf most of your brexchit has been,
and you've done a great job of highlighting how hare brained
it's all been...
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 5:39 PM BST
Your disingenuousness is shining through donny, I admire your resilience.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 5:42 PM BST
No need to be resilient when dealing with idiot brexchiters

Comedy central
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 5:44 PM BST
People can read what I wrote and compare it with the way you misrepresent it, just like a cheapjack politician.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 5:46 PM BST
Of course they can, and have a chuckle at your idiocy too.
Report Foinavon June 29, 2024 5:52 PM BST
I'll leave you to bask in your delusions, have the last word if you wish.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 29, 2024 6:06 PM BST
How could I refuse

LaughLaughLaugh
Report keyboard_line June 30, 2024 9:14 PM BST
liz truss, smiling insanely, giving a losers speech, dressed as a lettuce
Report salmon spray July 1, 2024 11:05 AM BST
These are likely to lose,much to my delight.
Rees-Mogg
(Duncan) Smith
McVey

There are a few others I would love to see lose but Braverman,to name just one,will probably hold on.
Report Cardinal Scott July 1, 2024 11:08 AM BST
Salmon's list is so good I must be a copycat
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2024 11:44 AM BST
Badenoch

Although my favourite Portillo would be Cruella
Report Analyst July 1, 2024 11:47 AM BST
Jacob Rees Mogg has to be near the top.
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2024 11:47 AM BST
McVey and her husband

Wes Streeting!

Rushanara Ali
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2024 11:50 AM BST
Rich ie Sunak
Report A_T July 3, 2024 7:50 PM BST
which erg tories are going to lose their seats?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 3, 2024 8:01 PM BST
Robert Jenrick, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Steve Baker, Miriam Cates, Iain Duncan Smith, Greg Hands, Therese Coffey, Chris Philp... are all projected to lose their seat in the latest YouGov poll.
Report A_T July 3, 2024 8:02 PM BST
every time one loses they should fire a cannon at the tower of london - or do something similar
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 3, 2024 8:09 PM BST
At the deposed tory mp!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 3, 2024 8:10 PM BST
Ian Smith can change his name back to Ian smith
if deposed.
Report Whisperingdeath July 3, 2024 10:22 PM BST
Yes interesting to see the balance of the rump….. One Nation and the Nutters. Cruella might well survive but what support could she muster? Personally I hope she does become the leader to finish the job the last two Eton and Bullingdon Toffs started!
Report salmon spray July 3, 2024 10:51 PM BST
Patel may be more likely      Crazy
Report yak hunt July 3, 2024 10:55 PM BST

Jul 3, 2024 -- 10:51PM, salmon spray wrote:


Patel may be more likely

Report yak hunt July 3, 2024 10:56 PM BST
No possible chance of being supported by party members in ballot.
Report salmon spray July 3, 2024 11:29 PM BST
She's a good bit shorter than Braverman on here. So you could..er.. lay her.
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2024 12:37 AM BST
Irony here that Cruella is making Patel look almost decent
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 4, 2024 9:43 AM BST
Cruella, bad enoch, and unpretty...

When shall we three meet again...
Report yak hunt July 4, 2024 10:43 AM BST
Three that cannot win members vote.
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2024 11:27 AM BST
I think Bad Eunuch is also in danger of being thrown off the gravy train
Report salmon spray July 4, 2024 11:31 AM BST
I reckon Badenoch,if she survives,is quite likely.
She's definitely right-wing but has avoided the baggage of Cruella and patel.
Is yak hunt suggesting Tory members wouldn't vote for a woman of colour ?
Surely not.
Report yak hunt July 4, 2024 11:48 AM BST
Sunak won the original MPs vote easily. He was miles clear of Truss who scraped into the members ballot by the skin of her teeth. He was far superior to her in debates up and down the country for members. Remember who won.
Report salmon spray July 4, 2024 11:55 AM BST
You could be right. Despite my age being about the median for Tory Party members I'm not aware of knowing any.
If they go white it looks like Tugendhat as Penny very likely to lose her seat.
Though of course if it is a massacre and Farage gets in anything could happen.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 4, 2024 11:57 AM BST
Staggering lack of talent in uk politics
Report Hayden July 4, 2024 12:00 PM BST
Surely Rees-Mogg , McVey and of course Gillian Keegan would be right up there in most lists    Happy
Report salmon spray July 4, 2024 12:06 PM BST
Most lists to lose their seats luckily.
Report Hayden July 4, 2024 2:23 PM BST
For sure , i'm banking on those 3 above all the other worthless specimens salmon , i've taken Jeremy Hunt and Grant Shapps as a given with Penny Mordaunt as a hopeful Grin
Report Lee Ho Fooks July 4, 2024 2:28 PM BST
I'm going for a double - Phillip Davies & Esther McVey

(Has this ever happened before?)
Report Hayden July 4, 2024 2:49 PM BST
I'd love all 16 of those photo's shown on Sky News yesterday but imagine a handful will survive.

I'll be distraught if Gillian Keegan keeps her seat.
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2024 3:34 PM BST
Interesting to see who will lead His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition. Could it be the geezer who did nothing for the Post Masters when he had the chance?
Report iamajambo July 4, 2024 4:21 PM BST
Before seeing this thread I was going to post "Which Portillo Moment" are you most looking forward to .

Rees Smugg for me.
Report mad mad moon July 4, 2024 6:41 PM BST
My new local candidate Home Secretary James Cleverly.
Repeatedly lied about opposing  an immigrant detention centre in his constituency, and never answers
questions from his constituency plebs ( his words)
My previous MP Priti Patel might be hated my most, but at least she would get very involved in local affairs,
visit local businesses/charities/jubilee days and send everyone email updates.
Not that I’d ever vote for either of them.
Report impossible123 July 4, 2024 9:11 PM BST
Which big Tory name will lose their seat 1st? A senior Cabinet Minister? Could it even be PM Sunak?
Report MALAY July 4, 2024 9:22 PM BST
hope that wee hun tory in aberdeen gets beaten, apart from that, dont care,

in fairness be good to see mogg go, but i assume tories have him, safe seat
Report Cider July 4, 2024 9:41 PM BST

Jul 4, 2024 -- 11:48AM, yak hunt wrote:


Sunak won the original MPs vote easily. He was miles clear of Truss who scraped into the members ballot by the skin of her teeth. He was far superior to her in debates up and down the country for members. Remember who won.


Rishi Sunak – 137

Liz Truss – 113

Penny Mordaunt – 105

more bow locks from k hunt

Report The Dragon July 4, 2024 9:42 PM BST
has to be the vile person that is reece mog
Report SirNorbertClarke July 4, 2024 9:44 PM BST
The Tories are about to find out just how angry the public are with their incompetence, corruption and outright lying
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 4, 2024 9:46 PM BST
Sunak was miles clear, didn't he arrange for some of his voters
to vote for Truss to make sure she beat mourdant
or was that just an urban rumour, and/or buried when
he lost.
Report yak hunt July 4, 2024 9:47 PM BST
That is correct, no rumour about it.
Report Cider July 4, 2024 9:50 PM BST
Sunak won the original MPs vote easily

Apart from, he didn't. But who needs facts when you have wild conspiracy theories to rewrite history !
Report tobermory July 5, 2024 12:41 AM BST
Nokes
Maria Miller
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