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casemoney
12 Jun 24 13:39
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9.35 RTE1 tonight. Previewing it on the news this morning 'stomach churning' was one description of it. Also big investigation into thousands of missing racehorses.

Thought we had been through all this after the Tiger lost its teeth ,was thousands of horses Disappeared then
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Report casemoney June 12, 2024 2:06 PM BST
Any News on the Cow Craic over there ?


In what would normally be dismissed as little more than the frenzied imagination of a cranky conspiracy theorist who thinks the government really is out to get them, the Irish department of agriculture has come up with a plan to spend €600 million over the next three years, killing 200,000 dairy cattle
Report irishone June 12, 2024 3:23 PM BST
I had three horses snd a couple of stables and can confirm the orish agricultural dept had not a clue. A fellahkmocked pn my door one day and asked to see them, they were licensed registered , chipped and fit. When he was out in the field he says to me "im looking for two connemara ponies apparently been left in a waterlogged field have you any idea who's they might be. ?" As I lived at the top of a hill I suggested it might be a good idea to have a look around the lake down the road, oh he said, "i just looked there". Everyone in the town knew whose ponies they were and exactly where the dodgepot of an owner  kept them by the edge of the lake. This fecking goon was training for a job in t v license detection.
Report Charlie June 12, 2024 3:41 PM BST
The Irish will be eating them no doubt.
Report shiny new shoes please June 12, 2024 7:11 PM BST
Exported 2 the Uk
Sad but you ]Love it
Exploitation is a English thing
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 7:22 PM BST
Not these ones Shiny, Serious animal welfare abuses and cruelty have been uncovered in the treatment of horses that are being sent for slaughter at Ireland's only licensed equine abattoir.
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 7:25 PM BST
In 2023, around 2,000 horses were slaughtered at Shannonside Foods Ltd. Two-thirds of these horses had been bred for the racing industry.Sad
Report shiny new shoes please June 12, 2024 7:26 PM BST
ya accept horror
Sad but
Look.around
That's life
Report Charlie June 12, 2024 7:29 PM BST
I think you mean that's Irish life.
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 7:31 PM BST
probably the same over here , racing industry worried about the size of the national fences , chopping orses to bits behind closed doors

greyhounds over here another one needs looking at it ,would not believe a word the GBGB is saying
Report shiny new shoes please June 12, 2024 7:39 PM BST
Y/\_worse
But
No Charles Frank Sinatra That's Lifey
Report lapsy pa June 12, 2024 7:42 PM BST
Not sure of the full story here,love horses but a lot bred for racing,if they are slow/useless hard to justify 20k per annum training them, sheer numbers probably means there is little alternative.

Act on it and police it.
Report shiny new shoes please June 12, 2024 7:44 PM BST
Exactly jail time
Report flat16 June 12, 2024 7:45 PM BST
Any system is open to abuse but to race in the UK ,you have to put some money as a bond ,to guarantee your dog has a good retirement.
I always raced black male dogs ,as they were the hardest to re home ,no matter to me ,as they always came home ,when they finished racing.
Full body scans were common ,heat treatment for pulls and aches and a good diet ,all keeps them happy and ready to run fast.
When they come home ,the biggest enemy is upstairs windows ,stairs and full pane doors........otherwise they are a total joy.
Report shiny new shoes please June 12, 2024 7:49 PM BST
Stop the Abuse
No1 wants it
Job done
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 8:12 PM BST
Trainers with 40 retired Dogs in Kennels Flat , cant carry on ,I believe Paul Young taking care of Forty Plus

Have a look at the owners on cards Flat , Half are showing as Trainer Owned , I had Two , My Bitch came to home me

Dog went to the Brother in law , Insane Amount of racing these days ,Pointless Racing in Empty Stadiums, all For the Paymaster


Bookies , it cant go on TBH
Report irishone June 12, 2024 8:12 PM BST
Guarentee you are right case
Prisons, mental homes, football clubs  and racing stables
High walls . Big gates. High fences.

They obviously dont want you to see something
Report Charlie June 12, 2024 8:36 PM BST
Irishone living the good life in Spain, posts on here 03:00 in the morning 15:00 in the afternoon and 20:00 in the evening. What a clown.
Report lapsy pa June 12, 2024 8:37 PM BST
Fair play, horrible 'story' and rather than attack, Flat with owners and Casemoney with bookmakers putting sensible points to answer/solve what no one wants. Totally agree with you.

I wish i was a vegetarian,i have cut down and won't eat lamb,rabbit,duck ,venison, but all animals have their beauty and should any be killed? I feel a bollix sometimes having a rasher.
Report monarch June 12, 2024 8:44 PM BST
Hate to say this, but this is not a big revelation to people in the game here in Ireland. Been a common practice for many years, even decades. When there was several facilities who would take such horses back in recession times there was queues to get in. Each horse slaughtered was worth about 700 euro.
Report lapsy pa June 12, 2024 8:50 PM BST
You would know^,hope you're keeping well.
Report Charlie June 12, 2024 9:08 PM BST
That's the sort of posts I like with people discussing things sensibly and accurately. Unfortunately then comes Irishone slagging off the UK. He is a disgrace to Ireland.
Report monarch June 12, 2024 9:16 PM BST
Yes, keeping well Pa.

I had the misfortune (on many levels) to be involved in a complete slowboat here in the early 2010s. We all knew after 3 runs that the mare in question was not up to the mark. The other 2 in the syndicate suggested sending her to the abattoir but I was having none of it. Found a lady to take the mare, and happy to say it is still going strong. I say all this while coming from a farming background, so totally understand the system. But even though the mare was useless ability wise, and cost me a small fortune, I wasn't going to send it to the knackers yard.
Report lapsy pa June 12, 2024 9:39 PM BST
Good man,bang in the middle of the age of austerity an all, a clear conscience which is priceless. Feel for the other 2 lads who had the disappointment and while i know it is all taking a chance the end question maybe should be answered at the start? The earlier 'solution' of a fund paid for in part by owners, bookmakers,trainers even lottery probably could be done.
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 10:06 PM BST
Get a lot of Syndicate Owned dogs, still no fooker will take the Dog at the end , unbelievable TBH

All you need is a Sofa 2 walks a day 20 mins ,still its too much trouble For Some ,A horse is Obviously a Different story

was in a Pub years back with Some Mates , Irish Pub used to go there for Cheltenham

fella Came up to me mate  said Charlie ive got a Horse for yer (tip) As quick as a Flash Me mate Replied I don't want it Me gardens too small Laugh



Was think of getting a retiree But the Mother law comes and stays Her Dog is Crackers , does not Like dogs, Only one , TBH not many People he likes eitherGrin

we got him from a Home ..
Report monarch June 12, 2024 10:07 PM BST
Yeah, once my 2 fellow syndicate members thought about it, what use was a couple of hundred quid each in comparison to knowing that the mare would live a happy life. I, and they, have made some bad decisions in life but this was not one of them.

I'd concur with your idea of a fund. Would include a levy on each sale through the ring as well.
Report flat16 June 12, 2024 10:25 PM BST
There are many good racing greyhound owners and obviously some slime balls ,not sure how you filter them out.
On a animal welfare note ,if one slipped his collar and ran off ,the easiest way to get them back ,was go to the van that took them racing and nosily open the doors ,invariably the escapee would turn up and jump in the van ,hoping to go racing ,most loved it.
Report irishone June 13, 2024 5:53 AM BST
Worked with a fellah who trained greyhounds in galway
One got away from me and I chased it for a mile
No chance
Went back to report it missing
Trainer says dont worry i know where he will be
Takes van out , country roads, get to bridge over stream
Starts yelling out , no fecking sign of it
This is an A2 dog won at Shelbourne
Spent a couple of hours looking driving and looking
Went back to kennels,there it was outside
I got sacked the next day
Report flat16 June 13, 2024 6:03 AM BST
The pack instinct and sausages works wonders.
When you first bring them home ,they are disorientated ,lonely and vulnerable ,in those first few hours a bit of kindness and discipline and you have a trusted friend for life.
You can definitely teach an "old dog new tricks".
NB a young A2 winner @ shelbourne be worth 5k+ ,so plenty in the tank for a forever home.
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:07 AM BST
Not 49 years ago mate
Report flat16 June 13, 2024 6:23 AM BST
There is that.............greyhounds was one of the reasons I fell in love with Ireland before you became the sanctimonious woke "conscience of the world" ,now Ireland has changed with more verrucas than a school pool .
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:29 AM BST
Spot on ,best to realise what a c0ck up the British made of it and ferk off like meself
Report flat16 June 13, 2024 6:41 AM BST
The weird thing is ,in England the rural people are against all this modern nonsense for sure but the same applies to Scotland ,the rural people hated the SNP and similarly in Ireland (or certainly my many Irish friends).
So the old divides don't apply ,north/south (England) ,rich/poor.....all gone just urban and rural ,poles apart.
Spain is too damn hot for me ,just need a Irish greyhound ,Birmingham rifle and a trout stream and I am happy...............enjoy
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:44 AM BST
You too
Happiness is what it's all about
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:47 AM BST
Interesting you saying "the rural people"
They can be more survival in their way of life
No doubt about that
City people tend to be more escapee in their thoughts
The difference is stark
Anywhere in the world
Report casemoney June 13, 2024 2:32 PM BST
anyone watch the Show ?
Report Dr Crippen June 13, 2024 2:40 PM BST
I had three horses snd a couple of stables

Lol.

The only three horses O'Thick ever had was in a patent.
Report MALAY June 13, 2024 5:49 PM BST
I seen some of it case, pretty bad, although not a major shock, they appeared to be going after one particular horse trader, the racehorse industry wasn't complete focus so it was a bit different to the full scale attack on greyhound racing by RTE, which subsequently led to not covering derby
Not good viewing, but if it improves animal welfare then fair enough.
Report Charlie June 13, 2024 6:26 PM BST
It wasn't pretty bad it was shocking and not the first time. Ban Irish racing is the only cure.
Report flat16 June 13, 2024 6:31 PM BST
If you ban Irish horse racing ,where do you think the horses will go ,hotels with the benefit seekers ?
Horse meat is eat all over your beloved EU.
Report Charlie June 13, 2024 6:33 PM BST
No racing equals no horses in Ireland.
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:50 PM BST
Ouch ........
Report irishone June 13, 2024 6:54 PM BST
Racist bigot can feck off now
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:03 PM BST
^ another apologist for the scummy south Irish behaviour

Not good ..
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:06 PM BST
Racist count
Report lapsy pa June 13, 2024 7:11 PM BST
The UK is the 8th largest exporter of horse meat in Europe.
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:13 PM BST
^ typical south Irish .. they’re ears are too sensitive
Tell them a few truths.. can’t take it
Now feck off Irish one sectarian racist bigot
back to the sodden boglands of south Ireland , cheers
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:15 PM BST
Lapsy ,, are you living in England ?
Have you done so for many years ..more respect and gratitude  please , thankyou
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:17 PM BST
its ok Lfc nursey will be along in a minute

she is just sorting out another British citizen
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:18 PM BST
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:18 PM BST
I’m sorry i don’t want anyone from south Ireland living or has lived in England
not taking the side of England over and above every country in the world

Understand ? I shouldn’t have to explain south Irish people ..
Report lapsy pa June 13, 2024 7:20 PM BST
I'm no cap doffer Lfc, i hope that nerve i touched wasn't that bad,but ye seem to be at it too.

Totally agree with the OP and it shouldn't be happening anywhere.
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:20 PM BST
Because if I do . And  vermin like Irish bigot may not understand

That’s your failure not mine
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:22 PM BST
Had to check what the op was

If you listen to casemoney you won’t go far wrong

On any topic ..
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:22 PM BST
get to bed tiny , singer in tomorrow at the nursing home

Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:25 PM BST
folded quicker than a teenagers lap top
Report MALAY June 13, 2024 7:28 PM BST
Remember the arabs got caught drugging horses in Newmarket, one guy took the fall, Aye very good he done that himself on billion pound empire, you need serious vets, labs, biochemists to to that job. English racing turned a blind eye. "Give us a patsy and it's grand"
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:30 PM BST
didnt nicky henderson aka Poison Nicky
dope one ofthe queen s harses ?
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 7:31 PM BST
Hmmm , I’m starting to hate the south Irish

quite right
Report irishone June 13, 2024 7:32 PM BST
lfc a criminal now .....


Report Charlie June 13, 2024 7:34 PM BST
Very apt, looks like lfc caught a good few.
Report irishone June 13, 2024 8:10 PM BST
Still blocked youCharlie but hope you are mentally well
Report Charlie June 13, 2024 8:14 PM BST
Blocked, unblocked, blocked make your mind up. My mental health is better than yours has ever been. --
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 8:15 PM BST
scum like south irush don’t care
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 8:22 PM BST
Tiptown is toooo easy Cool
Report irishone June 13, 2024 9:39 PM BST
Time for bed lfc

Report SirNorbertClarke June 14, 2024 3:55 PM BST
All this happening in the EU!
Report lapsy pa June 15, 2024 4:49 PM BST
As i said in the UK as well,horses are slaughtered for export. Only pointing that out as there really shouldn't be any of this in these Isles.

Big protest outside Shannonside factory by the 'My Lovely Horse' crowd today.
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 6:15 PM BST
The Spanish adore caballo (horse) in many of their tapas ,similarly French and The Belgium and much of the EU but not the UK and Ireland laps missing your logic..........is it that we should only eat things that aren't cute ,only eradicate vermin that isn't pretty ,your on dangerous "countryfile" and wokery ground my friend.
Or simply turning into Cris Packham
Report lapsy pa June 15, 2024 6:23 PM BST
Evening Flat.

Simple if we don't eat horse why slaughter it and sell it to countries that do?

If you want to call it woke fair enough, i think it is immoral.
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 6:34 PM BST
I do not see how your differentiating ,help me out:
Deer ,pigeons ,corvids ,otter,mink ,grey squirrels ,canadian signal crayfish ,ring parakeets ,all good keepers ?
All bad and  to be shot or trapped ?
Or some good some bad.
Every ones list will and should be different, can't just be your choices or the perceived cuteness factor chap.
Does the landowner have a say in this or just your conscience.
Report lapsy pa June 15, 2024 6:44 PM BST
It isn't illegal to eat horsemeat Ire/UK so technically you are right, horses are a bit different to others on your list, intelligent creatures.

I hope this factory is stopped from this, other countries who consume horsemeat should source it themselves and a moral stance taken instead of relatively little coin.
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 6:54 PM BST
Ponies......ugly ,lame ,unwanted ,fail to reach breed criteria etc have been exported for slaughter since time began.
Cute and tasty what a dilemma and are you sure pigs/beef/sheep aren't intelligent.
No pesticides ,no herbicides ,no pest control........no food.
I will keep my rifle ,you can keep that conscience and best we don't swop.
Report lapsy pa June 15, 2024 7:02 PM BST
Pigs and cows are intelligent enough, i have cut down,i won't eat lamb as it is killed at the start of its life. I get the vegetarians and fair play to them.
As i said early in the thread some horses have to be euthanised as not 'good enough' i see that point,to be making money and selling on to other countries to consume is a bit  immoral, my opinion only.
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 7:17 PM BST
Lambs are going for £220 for 40kg beast ,record highs in a buoyant market ,so you are in the minority but I respect your decision not to buy/consume .
Places like the new forest would be overrun with diseased ,lame ,mank ,crossbred mutant ponies if they were not controlled "farmed" by people ,I am struggling to see how they should suffer from urban consciences.
Report Charlie June 15, 2024 7:31 PM BST
The examples you give are either wild animals or specifically bred for slaughter. Race horses aren't either of those, hence the outcry.
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 7:40 PM BST
More conflicted thought ,do we judge it ,kill or pet:
If they are cute.
If they are intelligent.
If they race.
So racehorses are sacrosanct but other horses or ponies are toast.........or the filling in.
Knock your king over boyz your talking emotional b+++sh+t.
Report Charlie June 15, 2024 7:43 PM BST
I didn't say any of that, perhaps we start eating cats and dogs. Why not?
Report flat16 June 15, 2024 7:52 PM BST
Many horses ,bred for horse racing ,are either slow ,unsound ,badly behaved.........yet these horses must be kept, for 20+ years maybe ,so a couple of townies can sleep well.
Report Charlie June 15, 2024 8:02 PM BST
Cats and dogs, especially if young, must be ok. Do you eat them?
Report flat16 June 16, 2024 6:36 AM BST
Twisted ethics and morals:
So we can eat pulled pork roll at Fontwell ,as although pigs are smarter than horses ,they are "not bred to race".
We can eat roast beef at Chelts as cows are not as cute as race horses.
All the while knowing our beloved race horses are "safe" as they are actually pets like cats and dogs.
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