Irish Horse Scandal

Any News on the Cow Craic over there ?


In what would normally be dismissed as little more than the frenzied imagination of a cranky conspiracy theorist who thinks the government really is out to get them, the Irish department of agriculture has come up with a plan to spend €600 million over the next three years, killing 200,000 dairy cattle

I had three horses snd a couple of stables and can confirm the orish agricultural dept had not a clue. A fellahkmocked pn my door one day and asked to see them, they were licensed registered , chipped and fit. When he was out in the field he says to me "im looking for two connemara ponies apparently been left in a waterlogged field have you any idea who's they might be. ?" As I lived at the top of a hill I suggested it might be a good idea to have a look around the lake down the road, oh he said, "i just looked there". Everyone in the town knew whose ponies they were and exactly where the dodgepot of an owner  kept them by the edge of the lake. This fecking goon was training for a job in t v license detection.

The Irish will be eating them no doubt.

Exported 2 the Uk
Sad but you ] it
Exploitation is a English thing

Not these ones Shiny, Serious animal welfare abuses and cruelty have been uncovered in the treatment of horses that are being sent for slaughter at Ireland's only licensed equine abattoir.

In 2023, around 2,000 horses were slaughtered at Shannonside Foods Ltd. Two-thirds of these horses had been bred for the racing industry.

ya accept horror
Sad but
Look.around
That's life

I think you mean that's Irish life.

probably the same over here , racing industry worried about the size of the national fences , chopping orses to bits behind closed doors

greyhounds over here another one needs looking at it ,would not believe a word the GBGB is saying

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But
No Charles Frank Sinatra That's Lifey

Not sure of the full story here,love horses but a lot bred for racing,if they are slow/useless hard to justify 20k per annum training them, sheer numbers probably means there is little alternative.

Act on it and police it.

Exactly jail time

Any system is open to abuse but to race in the UK ,you have to put some money as a bond ,to guarantee your dog has a good retirement.
I always raced black male dogs ,as they were the hardest to re home ,no matter to me ,as they always came home ,when they finished racing.
Full body scans were common ,heat treatment for pulls and aches and a good diet ,all keeps them happy and ready to run fast.
When they come home ,the biggest enemy is upstairs windows ,stairs and full pane doors........otherwise they are a total joy.

Stop the Abuse
No1 wants it
Job done

Trainers with 40 retired Dogs in Kennels Flat , cant carry on ,I believe Paul Young taking care of Forty Plus

Have a look at the owners on cards Flat , Half are showing as Trainer Owned , I had Two , My Bitch came to home me

Dog went to the Brother in law , Insane Amount of racing these days ,Pointless Racing in Empty Stadiums, all For the Paymaster


Bookies , it cant go on TBH

Guarentee you are right case
Prisons, mental homes, football clubs  and racing stables
High walls . Big gates. High fences.

They obviously dont want you to see something

Irishone living the good life in Spain, posts on here 03:00 in the morning 15:00 in the afternoon and 20:00 in the evening. What a clown.

Fair play, horrible 'story' and rather than attack, Flat with owners and Casemoney with bookmakers putting sensible points to answer/solve what no one wants. Totally agree with you.

I wish i was a vegetarian,i have cut down and won't eat lamb,rabbit,duck ,venison, but all animals have their beauty and should any be killed? I feel a bollix sometimes having a rasher.

Hate to say this, but this is not a big revelation to people in the game here in Ireland. Been a common practice for many years, even decades. When there was several facilities who would take such horses back in recession times there was queues to get in. Each horse slaughtered was worth about 700 euro.

You would know^,hope you're keeping well.

That's the sort of posts I like with people discussing things sensibly and accurately. Unfortunately then comes Irishone slagging off the UK. He is a disgrace to Ireland.

Yes, keeping well Pa.

I had the misfortune (on many levels) to be involved in a complete slowboat here in the early 2010s. We all knew after 3 runs that the mare in question was not up to the mark. The other 2 in the syndicate suggested sending her to the abattoir but I was having none of it. Found a lady to take the mare, and happy to say it is still going strong. I say all this while coming from a farming background, so totally understand the system. But even though the mare was useless ability wise, and cost me a small fortune, I wasn't going to send it to the knackers yard.

Good man,bang in the middle of the age of austerity an all, a clear conscience which is priceless. Feel for the other 2 lads who had the disappointment and while i know it is all taking a chance the end question maybe should be answered at the start? The earlier 'solution' of a fund paid for in part by owners, bookmakers,trainers even lottery probably could be done.

Get a lot of Syndicate Owned dogs, still no fooker will take the Dog at the end , unbelievable TBH

All you need is a Sofa 2 walks a day 20 mins ,still its too much trouble For Some ,A horse is Obviously a Different story

was in a Pub years back with Some Mates , Irish Pub used to go there for Cheltenham

fella Came up to me mate  said Charlie ive got a Horse for yer (tip) As quick as a Flash Me mate Replied I don't want it Me gardens too small



Was think of getting a retiree But the Mother law comes and stays Her Dog is Crackers , does not Like dogs, Only one , TBH not many People he likes either

we got him from a Home ..

Yeah, once my 2 fellow syndicate members thought about it, what use was a couple of hundred quid each in comparison to knowing that the mare would live a happy life. I, and they, have made some bad decisions in life but this was not one of them.

I'd concur with your idea of a fund. Would include a levy on each sale through the ring as well.

There are many good racing greyhound owners and obviously some slime balls ,not sure how you filter them out.
On a animal welfare note ,if one slipped his collar and ran off ,the easiest way to get them back ,was go to the van that took them racing and nosily open the doors ,invariably the escapee would turn up and jump in the van ,hoping to go racing ,most loved it.

Worked with a fellah who trained greyhounds in galway
One got away from me and I chased it for a mile
No chance
Went back to report it missing
Trainer says dont worry i know where he will be
Takes van out , country roads, get to bridge over stream
Starts yelling out , no fecking sign of it
This is an A2 dog won at Shelbourne
Spent a couple of hours looking driving and looking
Went back to kennels,there it was outside
I got sacked the next day

The pack instinct and sausages works wonders.
When you first bring them home ,they are disorientated ,lonely and vulnerable ,in those first few hours a bit of kindness and discipline and you have a trusted friend for life.
You can definitely teach an "old dog new tricks".
NB a young A2 winner @ shelbourne be worth 5k+ ,so plenty in the tank for a forever home.

Not 49 years ago mate

There is that.............greyhounds was one of the reasons I fell in love with Ireland before you became the sanctimonious woke "conscience of the world" ,now Ireland has changed with more verrucas than a school pool .

Spot on ,best to realise what a c0ck up the British made of it and ferk off like meself

The weird thing is ,in England the rural people are against all this modern nonsense for sure but the same applies to Scotland ,the rural people hated the SNP and similarly in Ireland (or certainly my many Irish friends).
So the old divides don't apply ,north/south (England) ,rich/poor.....all gone just urban and rural ,poles apart.
Spain is too damn hot for me ,just need a Irish greyhound ,Birmingham rifle and a trout stream and I am happy...............enjoy

You too
Happiness is what it's all about

Interesting you saying "the rural people"
They can be more survival in their way of life
No doubt about that
City people tend to be more escapee in their thoughts
The difference is stark
Anywhere in the world

anyone watch the Show ?

I had three horses snd a couple of stables

Lol.

The only three horses O'Thick ever had was in a patent.

I seen some of it case, pretty bad, although not a major shock, they appeared to be going after one particular horse trader, the racehorse industry wasn't complete focus so it was a bit different to the full scale attack on greyhound racing by RTE, which subsequently led to not covering derby
Not good viewing, but if it improves animal welfare then fair enough.

It wasn't pretty bad it was shocking and not the first time. Ban Irish racing is the only cure.

If you ban Irish horse racing ,where do you think the horses will go ,hotels with the benefit seekers ?
Horse meat is eat all over your beloved EU.

No racing equals no horses in Ireland.

Ouch ........

Racist bigot can feck off now

^ another apologist for the scummy south Irish behaviour

Not good ..

Racist count

The UK is the 8th largest exporter of horse meat in Europe.

^ typical south Irish .. they’re ears are too sensitive
Tell them a few truths.. can’t take it
Now feck off Irish one sectarian racist bigot
back to the sodden boglands of south Ireland , cheers

Lapsy ,, are you living in England ?
Have you done so for many years ..more respect and gratitude  please , thankyou

its ok Lfc nursey will be along in a minute

she is just sorting out another British citizen

I’m sorry i don’t want anyone from south Ireland living or has lived in England
not taking the side of England over and above every country in the world

Understand ? I shouldn’t have to explain south Irish people ..

I'm no cap doffer Lfc, i hope that nerve i touched wasn't that bad,but ye seem to be at it too.

Totally agree with the OP and it shouldn't be happening anywhere.

Because if I do . And  vermin like Irish bigot may not understand

That’s your failure not mine

Had to check what the op was

If you listen to casemoney you won’t go far wrong

On any topic ..

get to bed tiny , singer in tomorrow at the nursing home

folded quicker than a teenagers lap top

Remember the arabs got caught drugging horses in Newmarket, one guy took the fall, Aye very good he done that himself on billion pound empire, you need serious vets, labs, biochemists to to that job. English racing turned a blind eye. "Give us a patsy and it's grand"

didnt nicky henderson aka Poison Nicky
dope one ofthe queen s harses ?

Hmmm , I’m starting to hate the south Irish

quite right

lfc a criminal now .....

Very apt, looks like lfc caught a good few.

Still blocked youCharlie but hope you are mentally well

Blocked, unblocked, blocked make your mind up. My mental health is better than yours has ever been. --

scum like south irush don’t care

Tiptown is toooo easy

Time for bed lfc

All this happening in the EU!

As i said in the UK as well,horses are slaughtered for export. Only pointing that out as there really shouldn't be any of this in these Isles.

Big protest outside Shannonside factory by the 'My Lovely Horse' crowd today.

The Spanish adore caballo (horse) in many of their tapas ,similarly French and The Belgium and much of the EU but not the UK and Ireland laps missing your logic..........is it that we should only eat things that aren't cute ,only eradicate vermin that isn't pretty ,your on dangerous "countryfile" and wokery ground my friend.
Or simply turning into Cris Packham

Evening Flat.

Simple if we don't eat horse why slaughter it and sell it to countries that do?

If you want to call it woke fair enough, i think it is immoral.

I do not see how your differentiating ,help me out:
Deer ,pigeons ,corvids ,otter,mink ,grey squirrels ,canadian signal crayfish ,ring parakeets ,all good keepers ?
All bad and  to be shot or trapped ?
Or some good some bad.
Every ones list will and should be different, can't just be your choices or the perceived cuteness factor chap.
Does the landowner have a say in this or just your conscience.

It isn't illegal to eat horsemeat Ire/UK so technically you are right, horses are a bit different to others on your list, intelligent creatures.

I hope this factory is stopped from this, other countries who consume horsemeat should source it themselves and a moral stance taken instead of relatively little coin.

Ponies......ugly ,lame ,unwanted ,fail to reach breed criteria etc have been exported for slaughter since time began.
Cute and tasty what a dilemma and are you sure pigs/beef/sheep aren't intelligent.
No pesticides ,no herbicides ,no pest control........no food.
I will keep my rifle ,you can keep that conscience and best we don't swop.

Pigs and cows are intelligent enough, i have cut down,i won't eat lamb as it is killed at the start of its life. I get the vegetarians and fair play to them.
As i said early in the thread some horses have to be euthanised as not 'good enough' i see that point,to be making money and selling on to other countries to consume is a bit  immoral, my opinion only.

Lambs are going for £220 for 40kg beast ,record highs in a buoyant market ,so you are in the minority but I respect your decision not to buy/consume .
Places like the new forest would be overrun with diseased ,lame ,mank ,crossbred mutant ponies if they were not controlled "farmed" by people ,I am struggling to see how they should suffer from urban consciences.

The examples you give are either wild animals or specifically bred for slaughter. Race horses aren't either of those, hence the outcry.

More conflicted thought ,do we judge it ,kill or pet:
If they are cute.
If they are intelligent.
If they race.
So racehorses are sacrosanct but other horses or ponies are toast.........or the filling in.
Knock your king over boyz your talking emotional b+++sh+t.

I didn't say any of that, perhaps we start eating cats and dogs. Why not?

Many horses ,bred for horse racing ,are either slow ,unsound ,badly behaved.........yet these horses must be kept, for 20+ years maybe ,so a couple of townies can sleep well.

Cats and dogs, especially if young, must be ok. Do you eat them?

Twisted ethics and morals:
So we can eat pulled pork roll at Fontwell ,as although pigs are smarter than horses ,they are "not bred to race".
We can eat roast beef at Chelts as cows are not as cute as race horses.
All the while knowing our beloved race horses are "safe" as they are actually pets like cats and dogs.