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moisok
06 Jun 24 12:48
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The  last few getting their 'LEGION' getting their medals from Macron.
A very moving ceremony.
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Report moisok June 6, 2024 12:50 PM BST
I do hope they have been well looked after in their final years.
Report dustybin June 6, 2024 1:16 PM BST
The story of the cafe owner’s daughter always puts a lump in my throat recollecting encountering the British for the first time following the invasion.

‘ Monsieur, we are British….we are here now’
Report alun2005 June 6, 2024 3:46 PM BST
Profoundly moving scenes at the ceremony this morning. I recommend the broadcast to anyone who didn't manage to see it. I would imagine it will be available on BBC IPlayer today.

It won't of course be suitable viewing for the Progressive Left as they've told us so often that they can't possibly be proud of the persons who gave their lives for Britain and the liberation of Europe. Their mystifying excuse is that it all happened long before the Progressives were born.

Curiously though, such people will never forgive Britain for our historical role in matters such as slavery, which they still pretend to be vexed about, although they don't give a fig about slavery that is a daily feature of life in other parts of the world.
Report edy June 6, 2024 4:09 PM BST
Useralun2005 • June 6, 2024 3:46 PM BST
Profoundly moving scenes at the ceremony this morning. I recommend the broadcast to anyone who didn't manage to see it. I would imagine it will be available on BBC IPlayer today.

It won't of course be suitable viewing for the Progressive Left as they've told us so often that they can't possibly be proud of the persons who gave their lives for Britain and the liberation of Europe. Their mystifying excuse is that it all happened long before the Progressives were born.

Curiously though, such people will never forgive Britain for our historical role in matters such as slavery, which they still pretend to be vexed about, although they don't give a fig about slavery that is a daily feature of life in other parts of the world.


Citations please!
Report Pilsudski June 6, 2024 4:54 PM BST
Wonderful stuff.Never forget.
Report lfc1971 June 6, 2024 6:24 PM BST
This day 80 years ago was the most noble
and most important day in the worlds history

(BBC coverage was a pleasure , deeply moving )
Report edy June 6, 2024 6:26 PM BST
Thank you for the liberation of Europe overall and Germany in particular, guys!
Report edy June 6, 2024 6:35 PM BST
And thank you for landing on mainland European shores instead of letting the Soviets march further west to suppress and enslave yet more people.
Report lfc1971 June 6, 2024 6:54 PM BST
Thankyou for your kind words edy
Report irishone June 7, 2024 7:47 AM BST
Lfc exposed again for the LIAR that he is

By lfc1971 on 12 Apr 24 16:44
History ? That’s when eg Germany was Englands enemy It doesn’t bother me


lfc197106 Jun 24 18:24Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 78,882 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
This day 80 years ago was the most noble
and most important day in the worlds history
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2024 8:24 AM BST
They may have done lots wrong since, but we need to be eternally thankful to FDR and the yanks for stepping in when they did.

140,000 young American men died on a continent that's 5,000 miles from home against an enemy that wasn't a threat to their land. Unbelievable sacrifice really.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2024 9:05 AM BST
Sunak's just apologised for getting off from the ceremony early so he could record an ITV interview.


Nice of him.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2024 9:09 AM BST
Reform should be jumping all over this btw.


Any old patriot clinging on to the tories might have just realised what he really thinks of them with this action. Unbelievable stuff.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 9:24 AM BST
It's a staggering blunder.

Terrible judgement, might as well resign.
Report spyker June 7, 2024 9:27 AM BST
If this wasn't an election campaign then Sunak would have to resign - simple. His people arranged the time for the interview so it is something fundamentally wrong with the whole organisation behind the Cons. Imagine if Starmer or, god forbid, Corbyn had done even vaguely similar - the right wing media and this lace would have gone mental. No excuses

And thank you for landing on mainland European shores instead of letting the Soviets march further west to suppress and enslave yet more people.


Can i suggest you google 'US WW2 rape' you might learn something!
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 12:11 PM BST
A monumental mistake by Sunak and his handlers. TBH I'm past caring what the Cons do or don't do, sick to death of them for their betrayals and duplicity.
Report Cider June 7, 2024 12:16 PM BST
It's just a manifestation of what we know already. Their sole concern is pacifying the mainstream liberalist broadcast media. The very people who hate them and want to bury them. These idiots think that helping shift Johnson made them sympathetic to Sunak Crazy
Report DIE LINKE June 7, 2024 12:16 PM BST
A bad day for Uncle Tom's cabinet.
Report Cider June 7, 2024 12:20 PM BST
The party at the start of this parliament had natural allies in other media outlets, but Tories completely snubbed them in the favour of the likes of labour loving itv. A trap they walked right into, can't wait for them to be eviscerated. Hopefully earning me a bit of cash !
Report dustybin June 7, 2024 12:20 PM BST
I’ve mentioned it in the past, but a really good book on the subject of the realities of losing a war was translated from German into the title:
‘Promise me you will kill yourself’

A fascinating insight into mass suicide and the killing of one’s own family to save them from rape.
Rivers with bodies running downstream and trees with hanged corpses were common. Mothers who drown their own kids and then couldn’t kill themselves or took poison only to wake up again.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 12:21 PM BST
Since the D-Day snub has gone so well. what have Sunak’s genius advisers got planned next to test how low they can drive their poll numbers? Have him push David Attenborough down the stairs? Ban fish and chips? Put Paddington Bear on a flight to Rwanda?

Twitter
Report Cider June 7, 2024 12:24 PM BST
He's having a car crash on sky right now


Great timing !
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 12:26 PM BST
shoot not kill dusty. Putting what you wrote into google alerts big brother offering help Crazy
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 12:31 PM BST
It sounds like a depressing book and I think I will give it a miss although it is something that has always happened in war.
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 12:56 PM BST
A search through Amazon reveals that Huber has written many books but only the one you mentioned seems to have been translated into other languages. Has anyone read the one about the neighbour with the big wotsit?
Report dustybin June 7, 2024 1:22 PM BST
I did wonder after posting if it was shoot
It’s on tone of the shelves but I wasn’t interested enough to find it.
Report edy June 7, 2024 1:39 PM BST
In German it's kind of a mix of the two. "Kind, versprich mir, dass du dich erschießt. Der Untergang der kleinen Leute", which would literally translate to "Child, promise me you'll shoot yourself dead. The downfall of the ordinary people". The word "erschießen" (only for Foinavon case-ified to "erschießt") is the word for specifically shooting someone dead, not just the act of shooting.
Report edy June 7, 2024 1:44 PM BST
https://x.com/Otto_English/status/1798720246611898380/photo/1

Lest we forget
Report Whisperingdeath June 7, 2024 2:00 PM BST
God bless the BBC

The voice of the Nation!
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 2:38 PM BST
Thanks edy but used reflexively (dich) so no confusion in the title. Is that gay book of his worth reading?
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 2:42 PM BST
That looks like Dunkirk edy.
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 2:46 PM BST
It can't be though as they are Americans not British WW2.
Report edy June 7, 2024 2:49 PM BST

Jun 7, 2024 -- 2:38PM, Foinavon wrote:


Thanks edy but used reflexively (dich) so no confusion in the title. Is that gay book of his worth reading?


?

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 2:50 PM BST
Tommy's men are Sunaks, running away
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 3:12 PM BST
I saw it listed under his name (Florian Huber) but I now see he wasn't the author.
Obviously you don't know of it so you won't have any information.
https://www.amazon.de/Mein-Nachbar-mit-gro%C3%9Fen-Latte/dp/B07VGNSHFR
Report edy June 7, 2024 3:23 PM BST
Have fun explaining your upcoming Amazon recommendations to your carer.

I'm glad I choose to open that link with the TOR browser.
Report Foinavon June 7, 2024 3:29 PM BST
Laugh I delete all the junk in my inboxes unread. My nurse doesn't have access (and doesn't read German).
Report lfc1971 June 7, 2024 10:55 PM BST
This story shall the good man teach his son
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’re go by,
from this day until the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered - we few,
we happy few, we band of brothers; for he
today that sheds his blood with me shall be
my brother; be he ne’re so vile, this day shall
gentle his condition, and gentlemen in England
now abed will think themselves accursed they
were not here and hold their manhoods cheap
whiles any speaks they - Fought with us upon
St Crispins Day.
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2024 8:23 AM BST
dustybinLaughCry



Anyway, "Next Conservative Leader" race: Note Penny Pugwash didn't miss the starting gun! 8.2
Report impossible123 June 8, 2024 9:39 AM BST
PM Sunak was a plonker to dash off early to resume husting. How'd he be so insensitive and lacking judgment? Maybe his parents had not told him to respect the military veterans who stood up to oppression, tyranny, fascism and communism.
Report irishone June 8, 2024 9:50 AM BST
Not as big as the bigoted racist liar LFC
Report Cider June 8, 2024 6:43 PM BST
Was anyone from the EU there? Ireland? They love the nut zero stuff
Report Charlie June 8, 2024 7:24 PM BST
I don't think the Irish landed on D-Day (but they may have done). Macron and Scholz was there unless you didn't watch it.
Report edy June 8, 2024 7:36 PM BST
All the most important EU people went to the Normandy event.

Rutte, Frieden (awesome name), Scholz, Frederiksen, various kings and queens and dukes...and many others.
Report edy June 8, 2024 7:40 PM BST
And Cider, a gradual move towards reducing emissions is not about people not being able to commemorate one of the most important events in European history in style. Very lame strawman.
Report Cider June 8, 2024 7:48 PM BST
The actual EU I was talking about, not the states (and Ireland)
Report edy June 8, 2024 8:01 PM BST
Charles Michel was there.
Report Charlie June 8, 2024 8:02 PM BST
It seems common sense that the countries most likely to celebrate D-Day would be those with troops who were there, so from the EU France and Germany, there may be others.
Report Charlie June 8, 2024 8:03 PM BST
Perhaps celebrate is the wrong word and commemorate is a better choice.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 8, 2024 8:59 PM BST
I'm not really a fan, but I though Farage commiserating with Scholz was a nice touch.
Report Whisperingdeath June 9, 2024 10:29 AM BST
Didn’t Farage have a Foreign bird, German as it happens?

Of the irony!
Report Foinavon June 9, 2024 11:40 AM BST
Why is it ironic? If you love someone you don't have to like the political system of their homeland.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 11:46 AM BST
the quality of Wd's analysis cannot possibly distinguish between membership of a deeply authoritarian political union, and diplomacy with continental neighbours.
Report edy June 9, 2024 12:06 PM BST
Can I get a quality analysis of the deeply authoritarian political union please?
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 12:17 PM BST
The President of the USA calls France "our first friend" and enduring ally, as the Élysée pulls out all the stops for Biden's state visit.

But don't fret, the special relationship is as strong as ever. USA/Israel.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 12:21 PM BST
Biden's handlers hate the UK. Tell us something we don't know. They didn't even wake the old duffer up to attend the Coronation.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 12:23 PM BST
No individual is bigger than the office they hold in a democracy. Fortunately for us, and US right now.
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 12:33 PM BST
Where did it all go wrong for the UK? Voting to leave the EU, probably.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 12:48 PM BST
You will definitely find that the vast majority of the west faces similar issues to that which England faces. What a coincidence one might say. And we have a Labour political gvnt to look forward too. Joy! I stated many times that I feel super fortunate to have experienced my development/younger years in the 80s and 90s. Some people might argue the 70s was great too, but whilst I only have vague memories of it as I was so young, the Labour gvnt of the time gave us the winter of discontent, three working day weeks, blackouts et al. So it couldn't have been that great, culturally perhaps it was.
Report edy June 9, 2024 1:00 PM BST

Jun 9, 2024 -- 12:06PM, edy wrote:


Can I get a quality analysis of the deeply authoritarian political union please?


If quality analysis is unavaiable, maybe some quality bullet points on the most important things making it a deeply authoritarian political union?

Report Whisperingdeath June 9, 2024 1:05 PM BST
Cider

You forgot

Wot about Dianne Abbott!
Report Cider June 9, 2024 1:06 PM BST
I believe you're mistaking me for Keith Starmer (god forbid)
Report edy June 9, 2024 2:40 PM BST
If some quality bullets points are unavailable, maybe some moderately good bullets points on the most important things making it a deeply authoritarian political union?
Report edy June 9, 2024 2:41 PM BST
...Only if it wasn't just a phrase muttered without a critical thought in sight of course.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 2:44 PM BST
I do not need a scientist to tell me it's beyond dumb to disinfect my post. I do not need a scientist to tell me it's been fukking so cold that my heating has booted up several times in May (for the first time ever in this property)
Report Cider June 9, 2024 2:46 PM BST
Oh yes, I do not need a scientist to tell me that if you need to take the same vaccine three times a year, it probably doesn't work very well. Common sense (and not being a sheep) goes a pretty long way in life.
Report edy June 9, 2024 2:50 PM BST
Were those meant for this thread?
Report Cider June 9, 2024 2:52 PM BST
No.
Report edy June 9, 2024 3:10 PM BST
Oh ok.

If some moderately good bullet points are unavailable, maybe at least 1 or 2 moderately good bullets points on the most important things making it a deeply authoritarian political union?

Again....only if it wasn't an empty phrase muttered without a thought in sight of course. Happy
Report edy June 9, 2024 5:02 PM BST
One or two really bad bullet points?
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 6:21 PM BST
You will definitely find that the vast majority of the west faces similar issues to that which England faces. - Sure, Cider. I was making a more specific point:- the diminishing status of the UK in the eyes of the wider world. You would imagine a country that took back control would have its reputation enhanced but quite the opposite. Remember those high hopes of eight years ago. It makes the D day fuss much more poignant, as if former glories are all this country has left now to cherish.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 6:31 PM BST
Biden's handlers hate the UK. Brexit has fukk all to do with that.
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 6:37 PM BST
It has everything to do with it because we wouldn't be at the mercy of Biden's handlers if we hadn't turned our backs on the EU for nothing.
Report Cider June 9, 2024 6:40 PM BST
Nonsense, it's completely ideologically driven. It's the type of deep seated loathing being replicated that still festers in some genuinely Irish people. If Trump is not taken out by lawfare, let's see how the relationship goes.
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Remember the expectations of 8 years ago: - Leavers really believed they "held all the cards"Laugh. They thought the EU would collapse by the end of 2018 as member states followed Britain like rats out of Hamelin. Where are they tonight? Ah yes BBC1 8pm Darkest Hour, enjoying two hours of nostalgia.
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 6:53 PM BST
What darkest hr ,  must have missed it lol
Report Cider June 9, 2024 6:53 PM BST
You're making little sense. So whether Biden 'likes' us or not is dependent on our membership of a political union Grin
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 6:56 PM BST
It’s 24 June, 2025, and Britain is marking its annual Independence Day celebration. As the fireworks stream through the summer sky, still not quite dark, we wonder why it took us so long to leave. The years that followed the 2016 referendum didn’t just reinvigorate our economy, our democracy and our liberty. They improved relations with our neighbours.

The United Kingdom is now the region’s foremost knowledge-based economy. We lead the world in biotech, law, education, the audio-visual sector, financial services and software.
-Daniel Hannan, the "brains of Brexit." C and P the quote in google to read the whole firago.Laugh
Report Cider June 9, 2024 6:56 PM BST
Biden's lot hate half of america anyway, it's not just reserved for us.
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 6:58 PM BST
BBC1 8pm lfc1971. You like Kirsten Scott Thomas, don't you?
Report Cider June 9, 2024 7:01 PM BST
What does Ireland lead the world in. Used to be cows, that's now looking a little tricky. Virtue signalling ?
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 7:04 PM BST
You're making little sense. So whether Biden 'likes' us or not is dependent on our membership of a political union - Americans celebrate success. Brexit looks like failure.
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 7:21 PM BST
Biscuits neediness is not a good look

America , France , Germany , Russia ,, ?

I feel how little the world concerns me , sorry
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 7:23 PM BST
Edmund Munch ,, good painting
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 7:32 PM BST
It's Dan Hannan
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 7:48 PM BST
Never heard of him, sorry
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 7:54 PM BST
Daniel Hannan, the so-called "brains of Brexit." Actually, he wrote an earlier version of his Brexit vision, in 2015.

It’s 2020, and the UK is flourishing outside of the EU. The rump Union, now a united bloc, continues its genteel decline, but Britain has become the most successful and competitive knowledge-based economy in the region. Our universities attract the world’s brightest students. We lead the way in software, biotech, law, finance and the audio-visual sector. We have forged a distinctive foreign policy, allied to Europe, but giving due weight to the US, India and other common-law, Anglophone democracies.
More intangibly but no less significantly, we have recovered our self-belief. As Nicolas Sarkozy, President of the European Federation, crossly put it: “Britain has become Hong Kong to Europe’s China.”

Part of our success rests on bilateral free-trade agreements with the rest of the world. The EU has to weigh the interests of Italian textile manufacturers, French filmmakers, Polish farmers. Even Germany likes to defend its analogue-era giants against American internet challengers such as Google, Amazon, Facebook and Uber.

Once outside the Common External Tariff, the UK swiftly signed a slew of free-trade agreements, including with the US, India and Australia. Our policy is like Switzerland’s: we match EU trade negotiators when convenient, but go further when Brussels is reluctant to liberalise, as with China. Following Switzerland, we forged overseas relationships while remaining full members of the EU’s common market – covered by free movement of goods, services and capital.
Non-EU trade matters more than ever. Since 2010, every region in the world has experienced significant economic growth – except Europe. The prosperity of distant continents has spilled over into Britain. Our Atlantic ports, above all Glasgow and Liverpool, which were on the wrong side of the country when the EU’s customs duties were imposed in the Seventies, are entering a second golden age.

London, too, is booming. Eurocrats never had much sympathy for financial services. As their regulations took effect – a financial transactions tax, a ban on short-selling, restrictions on clearing, a bonus cap, windfall levies, micro-regulation of funds – waves of young financiers brought their talents from Frankfurt, Paris and Milan to the City.

Other EU regulations, often little known, had caused enormous damage. The Reach Directive, limiting chemical products, imposed huge costs on manufacturers. The bans on vitamin supplements and herbal remedies had closed down many health shops. London’s art market had been brutalised by EU rules on VAT and retrospective taxation. All these sectors have revived. So have older industries. Our farmers, freed from the CAP, are world-beating. Our fisheries are once again a great renewable resource. Disapplying the EU’s rules on data management made Hoxton the global capital for software design. Scrapping EU rules on clinical trials allowed Britain to recover its place as a world leader in medical research.

Universities no longer waste their time on Kafkaesque EU grant applications. Now, they compete on quality, attracting talent from every continent and charging accordingly.

Immigration is keenly debated. Every year, Parliament votes on how many permits to make available for students, medical workers and refugees. Every would-be migrant can compete on an equal basis: the rules that privileged Europeans over Commonwealth citizens, often with family links to Britain, were dropped immediately after independence.
Unsurprisingly, several other European states opted for a similar deal. Some (Norway, Switzerland) came from the old European Free Trade Association; others (Sweden, Denmark) from the EU; yet others (Turkey, Georgia) from further afield. The United Kingdom leads a 21-state bloc that forms a common market with the EU 25, but remains outside their political structures. The EU 25, meanwhile, have pushed ahead with full integration, including a European army and police force and harmonised taxes, prompting Ireland and the Netherlands to announce referendums on whether to follow Britain.

Best of all, we have cast off the pessimism that infected us during our EU years, the sense that we were too small to make a difference. As we left, we shook our heads, looked about, and realised that we were the fifth largest economy on Earth, the fourth military power, a leading member of the G8, a permanent seat-holder on the UN Security Council, and home to the world’s greatest city and most widely spoken language. We knew that we had plenty more to give.

Daniel Hannan is Conservative MEP for South-East England
Report unitedbiscuits June 9, 2024 8:00 PM BST
I couldn't really choose from the best bits in there -  "Hoxton the global capital for software design" is a contender, so I copied the whole article.
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 8:09 PM BST
Lol that’s a novel I have no time or interest in reading

stop the cut and paste nonsense , give two or three relevant points
that you might think interesting

Just to let you know we didn’t vote Brexit to become bigger - but smaller
Large and difficult tasks we can no longer do ,, we’re fine we’ve done that
Report irishone June 9, 2024 8:26 PM BST
^^^^ pig ignorant Racist Bigot ^^^^^^
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 8:35 PM BST
^ he’s south Irish
Report irishone June 9, 2024 8:57 PM BST
dont bite sh1thead
Report lfc1971 June 9, 2024 9:11 PM BST
Tiptown bigot

Too easy Cool
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