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casemoney
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A police officer who was stabbed during an attack at a far-right rally in Germany has died.(sky news)

The far right were holding a demo , Some Afghan lunatics attacked them and Murdered a Police office

Another fine nation of Europe

Edy will be on to give us some Spin

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Report casemoney June 3, 2024 3:51 AM BST
Was the attacker Shot ? If not why Not ?
Report irishone June 3, 2024 6:19 AM BST
Germany is just as fecked up as the U K
They love to run the show with high moral standards and beliefs but thats gone to pot over there too
Report sageform June 3, 2024 7:42 AM BST
I was chatting with an old friend who travelled to France regularly for holidays. He told me he has ever seen the French so angry about "life" and politics there. It will be interesting to see how they cope with the Olympics. I still enjoy Portugal but there is nowhere else in EU that I want to go right now.
Report dustybin June 3, 2024 7:53 AM BST
RIP copper
But this case sums up the logic in a nutshell.
This ‘far right’ group were to hold an ‘anti islamist’ event, they had got the permission to do so and were registered to go ahead.
Well they didn’t even get underway before their very point was made for them.

But the real tragedy is actually the fact the perceptions of all those who ignored what the group stood for and instead saw them as ‘far right’ and seemed intent on them being the ‘bad guys’.
So when an extremist started stabbing people and got challenged by one of them, I’m assuming the copper sees a member of this group fighting an ethnic guy and jumps to the ethnic guys aid, and apparently tackles the guy from the group….leaving the extremist open to murder the copper by stabbing him in the neck.
Report Dr Crippen June 3, 2024 10:54 AM BST
It looks like the German police are as dim and as useless as our lot.
What a mess their kind have created for themselves and us who fund their wages.
Report edy June 3, 2024 1:05 PM BST
Him possibly having misjudged a very hectic situation is not sufficient reason to defame the deceased police man you otherwise know absolutely nothing about at all as dim and useless, even when you see it as a welcome chance to express a personal anti-police stance.
Report casemoney June 3, 2024 1:44 PM BST
Was the attacker shot ?
Report casemoney June 3, 2024 1:47 PM BST
The alleged attacker, believed to be a 25-year-old Afghan who arrived in Germany in 2014, was shot and injured at the scene.

His alleged motive remains unclear, according to police.
Report dustybin June 3, 2024 11:20 PM BST
Whichever way you look at this, the German authorities have had their pants pulled down good and proper.
All the automatic ‘far right’ stereotypes getting people;s backs up, when it looks like they had both a green light to have the event and a legitimate cause- no doubt the very problem they would have been emphasising is the very thing that happened.
And I don’t think it’s too far fetched to assume things turned out the way they did because of the way the authorities treat two differing ethnicities- the very point Tommy had been highlighting.
Report edy June 3, 2024 11:23 PM BST
There is no such thing as an automatic far right stereotype in Germany.
Report mad mad moon June 3, 2024 11:42 PM BST
Did I hear this right?
Sweden will have a white minority at some time in the 2040s???
Report edy June 4, 2024 12:07 AM BST

Jun 3, 2024 -- 11:20PM, dustybin wrote:


Whichever way you look at this, the German authorities have had their pants pulled down good and proper.All the automatic ‘far right’ stereotypes getting people;s backs up, when it looks like they had both a green light to have the event and a legitimate cause- no doubt the very problem they would have been emphasising is the very thing that happened.And I don’t think it’s too far fetched to assume things turned out the way they did because of the way the authorities treat two differing ethnicities- the very point Tommy had been highlighting.


I realise you, and other anti-police folk, are very desperate to have your anti-police agenda and defamation of them, which is why you all are so eager to spread this version of events of the dead police man being a brainwashed racist two-tour policer, but allow me to educate you:

What happened is that the dude in the blue jacket came over from the public transport. He does wear a blue jacket like them, but does not belong to the the initially attacked Stürzenberger and his team. They also said they do not even know him. Guy in the blue jacket wanted to help, but made a mistake and ended up attacking one of those people that tried to fight the guy with the knife. The police man tried to help and protect those people.

This is the account given directly by Stürzenberger as e.g. told by him here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgDWDEbADek

There is also a video of latter stage of the attack from another angle, which the anti-police fraction seems a whole lot less eager to spread to their extraordinarily dumb disciples because it works against their anti-police agenda.

https://x.com/ReimondHoffmann/status/1796704283557052669/video/1

You can see that the elderly man in the blue jacket started punching one of the men who was fighting the knifeman on the ground. I think starting at second 18 is the man was being punched by the man in the blue jacket while he fought the knifeman:

https://x.com/_nasir_ahmad_/status/1797695117274529997/video/1

Report casemoney June 4, 2024 12:38 AM BST
Europe being over Run Moon , the old Lefty  stains seem happy enough about it , Maybe when their family Members are being slaughtered on the Street ,they may have a change of heart

I wonder if and when it will  be advisable for white folks to stay at home as much as possible in areas of some countries ,Probably nearing it as is

World in 50 Years time will be a very very dangerous place , and it will have foook all to do with NUT ZERO
Report irishone June 4, 2024 6:06 AM BST
I used to be a pessimist sadly
Report Dr Crippen June 4, 2024 11:31 AM BST
The Germans make excellent workers, they build good cars.
They’re great at doing many things, except managing their own interests in the long term.

They have this build in mechanism to self-destruct. And here we’ve seen it again with their lunatic immigration policy they inflicted on the EU.

This makes three times they’ve wrecked Europe in just over a hundred years.
Report impossible123 June 4, 2024 6:44 PM BST
What a sad episode. My heart goes to the family of the murdered police officer. As for the Afghan refugees I hope their elders will have a stern talking to the youngsters and hot-heads. Otherwise, these refugees could be expelled with the minimum of law transgression in the country and from the far-right in Germany and Europe.
Report saddo June 4, 2024 6:57 PM BST
Merkel has done more damage to Europe than Adolf did Laugh
Report edy June 4, 2024 7:08 PM BST
Not sure. Can you please prepare a list of the respective damage done by them?
Report saddo June 4, 2024 7:09 PM BST
I suspect you are sure, history will show it.
Report edy June 4, 2024 7:10 PM BST
Still not sure. Can you please prepare a list with their major respective done damages?
Report edy June 4, 2024 7:13 PM BST
Is it true that Hitler is, at the end of the day, responsible for the death of about six million European jews?
Report edy June 4, 2024 7:13 PM BST
I say he is. Do you have doubts?
Report impossible123 June 4, 2024 8:01 PM BST
'saddo', it's disingenuous and wrong to compare Mrs Merkel to Mr Hitler. Has anyone seen the latest about that slimebag Mr Tusk of Poland? He's "playing up" Poland and Europe could be next on mad Putin's aggression list. The eyes of Mr Tusk convey coldness, emptiness and affection-less.

I think Mr Tusk's has forgotten the handouts Poland received from the EU which has invigorated the Polish economy and living standard and prosperity of the Polish people; the hospitality and generosity his Polish people received from Western EU member states.
Report edy June 4, 2024 8:03 PM BST
Sorry impossible123, but why exactly is Tusk seemingly not allowed to worry about Russian aggression because they have received EU funds in the past? Why does it matter that Tusk "has forgotten" about EU funds in regards to him "playing up" Russian aggression?
Report edy June 4, 2024 8:05 PM BST
And boy are you holding long lasting grudges over Tusk having a bit of fun with with cakes and non-existing cherries. Laugh
Report edy June 4, 2024 8:14 PM BST

Jun 4, 2024 -- 7:13PM, edy wrote:


I say he is. Do you have doubts?


We can go with something closer to home if you can't decide on jewish holocaust victims yet.

Was Hitler, at the end of the day, responsible for well over a decade of rationing in the UK?

Report edy June 4, 2024 8:14 PM BST
@saddo
Report impossible123 June 4, 2024 8:36 PM BST
May I suggest authorities send the refugees to China or any countries in East and Far East Asia. Even South Asians would rather remain in their countries rather than chance it in these countries; there is no welfare, housing or benefit system in these countries. Also, competition for jobs is intense, and productivity is 2nd to none there.

The UK is too soft and encourages illegal economic refugees (not war refugees).
Report edy June 4, 2024 8:40 PM BST
China, Japan and South Korea all rank below Germany in GDP per working hour.
Report saddo June 4, 2024 8:51 PM BST
impossible123, I believe Tusk was part of the EU cabal who opened the gates.
Now he's back running one of the countries brave enough to say they want no migrants
he's changed his tune.
Report breadnbutter June 4, 2024 9:24 PM BST
Well Poland is special, it's allowed to do as it pleases but this looks bad so needs polished up a bit.

Under the EU’s new rules, EU countries can either participate in the migration system by taking in asylum seekers or providing financial or operational support to host countries. According to Tusk’s earlier statement, Poland will be forced to do neither.

Of course the pols have mostly migrated elsewhere so cake and eating it while larfing at the stupids.
Report saddo June 4, 2024 9:31 PM BST
If you never believe a politician you won't go far wrong.
Report casemoney June 5, 2024 1:06 PM BST
Another Stab Up

A local politician has been attacked in the German city of Mannheim, five days after the fatal stabbing of a police officer in its market square.

The man, described as a local election candidate for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, was left with cuts in the attack, German press agency DPA reported.

Police in the south-western state of Baden-Württemberg said they arrested a 25-year-old suspect, who was then taken to a psychiatric hospital after showing clear signs of mental illness.

Righty Oh
Report casemoney June 5, 2024 1:08 PM BST
I wonder if he was suffering from religious Delusions

Fella stabbed lucky , was taken to hospital but should be OK
Report saddo June 5, 2024 1:38 PM BST
We may need many more psychiatric hospitals building across Europe if this becomes the norm.
Report flat16 June 5, 2024 1:45 PM BST
Was this not a brexit problem yesterday ,or did the Germans come out when we escaped.
Sincere condolences to the Policeman's' family.
Report edy June 5, 2024 1:46 PM BST

Jun 5, 2024 -- 1:08PM, casemoney wrote:


I wonder if he was suffering from religious Delusions Fella stabbed lucky , was taken to hospital but should be OK


You can find a video of the attack on X if you look for the name of politician - Heinrich Koch. Will much more likely have been politically motivated.

Report edy June 5, 2024 1:48 PM BST
E.g. here directly from the chief of the AfD

https://x.com/Alice_Weidel/status/1798297636958593323
Report edy June 5, 2024 1:54 PM BST
That young man in the black shirt had apparently stolen AfD campaign posters from the street, Koch saw him, ran after him to confront him, but was then stabbed somewhere before the robber fled.
Report casemoney June 5, 2024 1:55 PM BST
Yes looks like a far Left extremist who doesn't like Koch ,Not many of them about these days
Report edy June 5, 2024 1:58 PM BST
Should have really called the police on the guy and followed him sneakily at a distance to update the police on the whereabouts.

Never one-on-one confront much younger men in the middle of the night that are visibly holding knives in one of their hands imo. Bit reckless.
Report edy June 5, 2024 2:04 PM BST
Even if it's "just" one of those utility knives with retractable/replaceable blades that the robber will have had with him for the theft and vandalism of the posters.
Report Shrewd_dude June 5, 2024 9:22 PM BST
Edy what is the situation with everywhere in Germany charging you to go to the toilet?

Even in a pub you have had a pint in or a meal you go down to the toilet and some wee wifey who looks ex Stasi asks you for a Euro for the privilege.
Report edy June 5, 2024 9:40 PM BST
Germany is not a socialist country, so the users have to pay for the toilets' latter cleaning.

Though pubs and restaurants don't generally make their visitors pay if you are a guest that consumes there. From what I know they mostly aren't even allowed to, although with legislation in this regard being a matter of the states, it might be allowed in some states. What they mostly are allowed to charge are people that only want to pee without consuming anything.

If you do not want to pay for a public toilet, nor want to accompany your toilet visit with a beverage of your choice, then looking for university buildings might be a good emergency plan. If your conscience can live with you using a toilet you had no real right to use. If you can live with cheating your way to a pee.

They are often scattered throughout towns in Germany instead of the campus being basically a mini city of its own like you find in some countries or universities. In most of them, excluding maybe the smallest buildings, people are unlikely to take note of an adult of almost any age strolling to the toilet section there, unless maybe you look very touristy.
Report Shrewd_dude June 5, 2024 9:49 PM BST
Plain
Report Foinavon June 5, 2024 10:11 PM BST
What about libraries, edy, do they generally have free facilities?
Report edy June 5, 2024 11:04 PM BST
What exactly did I receive the plain face for there, Shrewd_dude? Did you recently get ripped off by being made to pay extra for your pee at a restaurant you also consumed at?

Library toilets should generally be free to use if you are a member, Foinavon. To what extend that's really enforced I can't really say. At the one library I have visited in recent years it isn't enforced and you can just wander in and to the toilet, but google suggests that there are libraries that have started using measures like electronic locks for the toilets that only open with a membership card. Because there were reportedly too many tourists that were not in the mood to order a beer with their pee.
Report lfc1971 June 6, 2024 8:58 AM BST
Germany wanting to make people suffer again !
Report edy June 6, 2024 11:52 AM BST
Motivating people to be the best version of themselves, through increased bladder resolve.
Report paulo47 June 6, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Just to mention that these days in the uk , staffed hours in libraries are hugely reduced compared to what they were . All library members have a card and passcode which allows them in to an unstaffed library at most times of every day , even just to use the loo . It is actually progress .
Report flat16 June 6, 2024 5:17 PM BST
Our library has been transformed as a place to finesse your lies on your asylum application ,neatly segregated, the Sunnis from the Shiites and the Asians (as they all detest each other) ,with the push chairs herded up in splendid unity.
Don't know about the books and the loos tho ,think all that been cancelled.
Report Shrewd_dude June 11, 2024 11:40 PM BST
Did you recently get ripped off by being made to pay extra for your pee at a restaurant you also consumed at?

It seems to be standard over your way. That is why I asked. Even buying a burger in Mcdonalds will have somebody harrasing you for 50 cents when trying to go in to the toilets.
Report Escapee June 12, 2024 12:18 AM BST
Not just Germany, The toilet grandma/grandpa is a thing in various night clubs and casinos in London. They hand you a clean towel, offer you some cologne, make sure the toilets are clean etc.

I've also encountered them in various countries, In some it's a compulsory fee (which is often a shock and outrage to fellow brits), others it's an optional tip.

When in Rome etc....
Report Shrewd_dude June 12, 2024 12:22 AM BST
The toilet grandma/grandpa is a thing in various night clubs and casinos in London.

That's a different thing I think.

In nighclubs it's a bloke hoping you give him a quid for a hand towel whilst trying to give you a scoosh of aftershave with the line "no Armani, no punani".
Report irishone June 12, 2024 3:55 AM BST
they are taking the pi55
Report Ronaldmcdonald June 12, 2024 5:00 PM BST
Their Energiewende scheme must be part of their self-destruct mechanism. They sealed up the coal mines and then they had to go into the forests to chop wood in the snow in the middle of winter.
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 6:12 PM BST
Irish Correct , it sound like a Sh1t carry on to me
Report casemoney June 26, 2024 2:41 PM BST
African attacker dies in botched bombing of Arab-owned restaurant in Germany
https://rmx.news/article/african-attacker-dies-in-botched-bombing-of-arab-owned-restaurant-in-germany/
Report edy June 26, 2024 2:48 PM BST
One for a Darwin Award.
Report casemoney June 26, 2024 2:51 PM BST
Just as well it went off before he got inside
Report Foinavon June 26, 2024 2:58 PM BST
Some people nearby were injured unfortunately. Sad
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