The EU trying to kill off the puffins

If there is a contract dispute, you have to establish whether the contract has indeed been breached along with finding a solution regarding e.g. a compensation. Don't let lawless loonie leftie scoundrels convince you otherwise.

Yes that seems to be the way that capitalism and greed prevails over life.

Life can of course prevail, but if you signed a contract, then in a rule based environment there needs to be some form of resolution regarding a possible breach of said contract. Otherwise a contract is not worth the paper it was printed on.

Edy

The lawyers really get a fantastic pay day (year/decade) when there are more than 1 “contract” which contradict each other.

The EU has an obligation to protect wildlife.
The EU has decided for decades that it has an obligation to do whatever farmers and fishermen want.

So time for the lawyers to put in an 8 figure legal bill to the taxpayers in EU and U.K. Thankfully we can all help those deprived partners at law firms get by on their million pound salary.

Katie-jo Luxton, the RSPB’s director of conservation, described the EU’s legal challenge as “outrageous” and accused it of kicking “the future of beautiful birds like our much-loved Puffins around like a political football.”

She noted that 62 percent of seabird species were in decline across the U.K., adding: “While some EU countries seem hell-bent on hoovering up sand-eels on an industrial scale to feed to livestock, we believe they should be restoring marine ecosystems and nourishing baby Pufflings.”

Contracts with commercial organisations can be enforced. Ones with Governments seldom are.

They need to cull the seagulls mugging
the puffins and eating the pufflets.

They banned locals from fishing too, but they
kicked up a fuss so no ban in farne isles for
locals...

pufflets 

https://x.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1534613083020218377

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was expecting a nature specialist rather than Tim from The Charlatans...but fair play...both spot on having double checked..

clip on the news showed the black headed gulls just robbin' the parent puffins of fish on return...

can see an argument for the fishing restriction as more to go around  but lazy b****** gulls will still rob you..

maybe just not the fourth time..

Yeah, nature can be cruel to watch.

Easy to wait for puffins arriving if you are a big gull.

Stuff going out fishing for them.

just thinking about it..

almost might not matter what you do with fishing restrctions...as more robbin' equals more gull population...equals even more robbin'..

having joined the thread late had missed your ref to gull culling...don't know enough to say if that's reasonable or not but mght be the only realistic option if the footage was normal rather than unusual..

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The UK and the EU have until Thursday to find a compromise or risk escalation, something that could eventually lead to sanctions against Britain.

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The UK and the EU have until Thursday to find a compromise or risk escalation, something that could eventually lead to sanctions against Britain.

irishone reported for repeated racism.

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Please explain your point Nobby ?????

The quote is from the BBC .....

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles
22 hours ago — The UK and the EU have until Thursday to find a compromise or risk escalation, something that could eventually lead to sanctions against Britain

You'd need to be pretty dumb to think that SNC was referring to your BBC quote. But then again it is you.

Everyone should report Irishone for his repeated racism. Maybe then he'd get banned.

Ah , but it’s not racism - get your facts right that’s best

You’re a pretty individual aren’t you noblet ?

Making false accusations to try and get people banned ..

You’re a pretty individual aren’t you noblet

Sorry lfc, you aren't my type.

It wasn’t a compliment ,, quite the opposite

Now stop making false allegations ,, if you don’t like Irishones posts or your ears are too sensitive to criticism that’s your defect
They aren’t racist , so stop trying to get people banned under false pretences   that’s another defect

I have to put up with Racism every day Nobby

Build yerself a bridge and get over it

More nonsense from Irish one

I can assure you he has never faced racism at any time in his long life .. not once

People are attracted to certain things , certain people

That’s how it is , it’s natural

If someone isn’t attracted to you , or you to them

That’s life , get over it

What you don’t do is make up false allegations , like noblet ,and try and get others to get someone banned
That’s bullying , and that deserves nothing but contempt

The idea of a seagull cull has been debated a few times
but they don't think the problem is severe enough
to warrant it.

Surely the fishing ban will help the puffins and pufflets
if it goes ahead. Then monitoring their numbers
will show if the ban helps enough or if limited gull
culls might be required.

Bird flu has impacted numbers recently so its
likely a bad time to test theories anyway.

I'm totally in favour of restricting fishing off
our coast in selected areas, but uk fleet needs
to be banned from the areas too, else it's just
not going to work.

North East Coast has had some mixed fortunes of late
with north of Tyne seeing some recovery, wearside
doing some great work, and sadly teesside seeing
mass die off for unknown reasons, but hopefully
that's now getting fixed too.

Lovely to see the dolphins.. But don't go swimming
with them until the water companies get sorted.

puffins are adorable little birds , and the books also

anyone recall the Puffin Book Club from their childhood ?

Probably not with the leftist plebs on here ..

Puffineers!

THis is the worst Racist on here Noblet....  time after time




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By lfc1971 on 1 Feb 21 14:38
Do you know in Africa they didn’t even have underpants before the British arrived ?

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Some things would have remained impossible in some parts of the world there were no underpants in Africa until the British arrived


Racist pryck on Ryanair flight from Barcelona
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They didn’t even have underpants in Africa until the British arrived


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The natives in Africa didn’t have any underpants until the British Christians arrived

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They didnt even have underpants before the British arrived


Katie Hopkins sacked from LBC
By lfc1971 on 5 Feb 18 13:14
^ that's a leftist liberal right therewhat kind of attitude is that to take? well they can only be what they aredo you know I don't think they even had underpants in Africa before the British arrived

Not to mention his RACIST pal

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Yes they don’t call the Irish thick for nothing

fishermen and for Danish fishermen to come in to use our money, our land and our traditional fisheries to destroy the basis of our fish stocks along our coasts. That is most reprehensible. I hope that the Government will see what damage is being done not only to the fish stocks themselves but to the confidence of all those connected with fisheries in this country.

As to the drift net fishery off the north east coast of England, I would have preferred it if the noble Earl had worded his Question slightly differently and not asked the Government to reconsider their decision but rather to reinforce their decision to phase out the fishery as soon as possible. I should like to see it reinforced, not reconsidered. That might be done by using the means which I have already suggested in your Lordships' House by persuading some of those who want to continue fishing—perhaps the younger fishermen—to fish inshore by one of the methods which is acceptable. As the noble Lord, Lord Mason, has already drawn to our attention, the nets which they use are in themselves a menace and a danger not only to fish but to other forms of life in the sea.

I hope that the Government will take note of the Question which the noble Earl asked, will give us a helpful answer and will understand that in their hands lies the protection of the basis of all our fisheries, whether they be migratory fish or white fish. I hope that the Government will seriously reconsider—if they can reconsider anything—giving a subsidy for the building of the processing factory in Scotland. I hope that they will also reconsider their position with regard to the possible cessation of the fishery for what is known as commercial fish, particularly sand eels, capelin and pout.

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1994/nov/01/sand-eels-and-drift-net-fishing#column_817


1994, we ignored the warnings, did not act and the sand eel fishery collapsed, but still we kept letting the Danes take huge amounts, of course the lies about what they are used for and the effects of that industry on Scottish waters is a national disgrace.
Greed knows no bounds.

That link was only partially posted

Viscount Thurso My Lords, the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley, has brought a most interesting Question to your Lordships' House tonight. It is interesting because not only does it ask about salmon; your Lordships might think when you see me appearing on these Benches that salmon is all I ever talk about, but it is a big subject and requires a great deal of input. But on this occasion, the Question which the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley, has brought before your Lordships is about the very ecology of our coastline and the threat to the food chain which supports all the major fish species round our coasts. That is not only the salmon; it is also other forms of fish such as white fish—cod, for instance.
Why do we not see the great catches of cod that we used to see when I was a boy and when the noble Earl was a boy? The answer is that, apart from fishing them out, we have starved them out by destroying their food supplies. We have destroyed their food supplies in a number of ways. But the most sure way of doing so is by attacking the very fishes which are at the base of the food chain, which are the sand eel, the pout and the capelin. Those fishes which never appear on our tables and which we never fished for in the old days as a food for man, but which have now become a source of supply for food for farmed trout in Denmark, for farmed salmon in various parts of the European Union, for pet food, for 817cosmetics—for lipstick and things like that —and for oil for firing power stations. There are power stations in Denmark which are being run on squashed sand eels.

Do we think it right that this important ingredient, which used to be available as the basis for the whole food chain of the North Sea and all round our coasts, should be used not to provide food for the fishes which we have traditionally fished over the years but as a form of industrial raw material, which is what it is now becoming? It is insulting to the beleaguered fishing industry. Coastal netsmen in Scotland are beleaguered people. I would happily support them as genuine fishermen who have employed their methods over the years and have done no harm to the fishes which they catch for our table. To produce and subsidise with government money—money which has come out of our pockets —a large factory to destroy the ecology of the North Sea and the ecology of our coastline is insulting to those fishermen.

The noble Earl has given us lots of figures which show the very large quantities of fish which are being taken, and sand eels in particular. Last year, off the coast of Fife alone, some 90,000 tonnes of these little fish were landed. They are tiny fish. A whole lot together would not amount to more than the fingers of my hand, the little ones smaller than my little finger and big ones like my middle finger, and not much bigger. If one can imagine the number of these little fish, which are not very long, which make up a pound, a tonne, or 90,000 tonnes. How many thousands and thousands of fish have been destroyed as a result of this fishery?

The fish are very easy to catch because their defence mechanism—to give an example with which your Lordships are probably familiar—is similar to that of the starling. The starling flies around in a large flock so as to be able to confuse its predators when they attack because of the mass of birds there are to choose from. These fish swim about in shoals to protect themselves in the same way. Methods are now being used which exploit their very defence mechanism to catch them more efficiently. They are literally being hoovered out of the sea in some instances. It is rather like taking a machine gun to the plains of the Serengeti and attacking the wildebeest and zebras with the machine gun and saying that that is sport. The method of fishing which is being employed is not a reasonable one. It is destructive.

The figures which have already been given to us show how from 1982 Shetland, which used to yield 50,000 tonnes of sand eels, declined by 1988 to a mere 5,000 tonnes. That is the kind of destruction that can be imposed upon a stock of fish in six years.

In my view the greatest danger to the salmon is the destruction of their food supplies. They survive, if at all, because of their opportunistic methods of feeding. They do not eat only one species of fish. But the trouble is that in this case the people who are catching so-called commercial fish do not catch only one type of fish, either. They go for anything that they can catch to put through their factories. That is a very grave danger, not only to the salmon but also to the seabirds—the puffins and guillemots. There is evidence that such damage is taking place. The Scottish Office itself admits that deaths of seabirds such as guillemots were as high as 81850,000 early this year. If the Scottish Office admits to having discovered 50,000 dead birds lying around, how many more have sunk to the bottom and been eaten by lobsters, and so forth?

We also know that in Shetland, where the fish on which they feed have been destroyed, puffins, guillemots and other birds which rely on sand eels have begun to fail to breed and to produce young at all. From 1984 to 1987 puffins and terns failed to produce any young in the Shetlands. Therefore, it is a serious matter for the whole ecology. It is destroying our bird life; it is denying us the quality of fish which we used to have around our coasts; it is threatening the stocks of migratory fish such as salmon and sea trout. It is most harmful.

It is thoroughly reprehensible that our money should be being used to encourage this fishery by foreign fishermen and for Danish fishermen to come in to use our money, our land and our traditional fisheries to destroy the basis of our fish stocks along our coasts. That is most reprehensible. I hope that the Government will see what damage is being done not only to the fish stocks themselves but to the confidence of all those connected with fisheries in this country.

As to the drift net fishery off the north east coast of England, I would have preferred it if the noble Earl had worded his Question slightly differently and not asked the Government to reconsider their decision but rather to reinforce their decision to phase out the fishery as soon as possible. I should like to see it reinforced, not reconsidered. That might be done by using the means which I have already suggested in your Lordships' House by persuading some of those who want to continue fishing—perhaps the younger fishermen—to fish inshore by one of the methods which is acceptable. As the noble Lord, Lord Mason, has already drawn to our attention, the nets which they use are in themselves a menace and a danger not only to fish but to other forms of life in the sea.

I hope that the Government will take note of the Question which the noble Earl asked, will give us a helpful answer and will understand that in their hands lies the protection of the basis of all our fisheries, whether they be migratory fish or white fish. I hope that the Government will seriously reconsider—if they can reconsider anything—giving a subsidy for the building of the processing factory in Scotland. I hope that they will also reconsider their position with regard to the possible cessation of the fishery for what is known as commercial fish, particularly sand eels, capelin and pout.

https://x.com/bwmphotoUK/status/1803091902448676951?s=19

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https://x.com/bwmphotoUK/status/1809907917023281168?s=19

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I thought the title meant they were going against homosexuals until I read it again!

Sir Keir Starmer has signalled he is ready to fight EU demands to lift tough post-Brexit environment rules in the UK even if it risks his “reset” with Brussels.

The Prime Minister said the Government would be “keeping to our commitments” after the EU announced it would take the UK to court over the ban on the fishing of sand eels in the North Sea.

Introduced by the Conservatives, the ban is backed by the RSPB to ensure endangered puffins’ major food source is not overfished in a way that would threaten the bird’s survival even further.

The EU on Friday said it would request effective court judgment on the ban after loud complaints from the French and Danish fishing industries, which previously caught hundreds of thousands of tonnes of the fish in UK waters every year.

Good to see Starmer showing a backbone for once and standing up to the puffin killers.