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Taoiseach wants to reduce arrivals through Northern Ireland amid concern that Sunak’s Rwanda plan is driving people to Ireland

Ireland and Britain are on a collision course over asylum seekers, with Dublin vowing to send arrivals to Ireland back to the UK and London insisting it will not accept any.

A diplomatic row erupted on Sunday after the taoiseach, Simon Harris, asked the justice minister, Helen McEntee, to bring proposals to cabinet next week to allow the return of inadmissible international protection applicants to the UK, amid concern that Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda plan was rerouting asylum seekers from Britain.

“This country will not in any way, shape or form provide a loophole for anybody else’s migration challenges,” Harris said on Sunday. “Other countries can decide how they wish to advance migration. From an Irish perspective, we intend to have a firm rules-based system where rules are in place, where rules are in force, where rules are seen to be enforced.”

The planned legislation follows a claim by Sunak that the Conservative party’s deterrence was working, and after it emerged that 80% of recent asylum seekers to Ireland came via the land border with Northern Ireland.

A UK government source said it would not accept any asylum seekers from Ireland without a wider deal with Brussels. “We won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU via Ireland until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France. We are fully focused on operationalising our Rwanda scheme and will continue working with the French to stop the boats from crossing the channel.”

Ireland had previously designated the UK a “safe third country” to which asylum seekers could be returned but last month the Irish high court ruled that this breached EU law, impeding further returns.

McEntee said she would shore up Ireland’s controls and discuss the return of refugees with James Cleverly and other British officials during a visit to London on Monday.

“That’s why I’m introducing fast processing, that’s why I’ll have emergency legislation at cabinet this week to make sure that we can effectively return people to the UK and that’s why I’ll be meeting with the home secretary to raise these issues on Monday,” she told RTÉ.

In an interview with Sky News on Sunday, Sunak said the Rwanda legislation signed into law last week was already having an impact because people were worried about coming to the UK.

“Illegal migration is a global challenge, which is why you’re seeing multiple countries talk about doing third-country partnerships, looking at novel ways to solve this problem, and I believe will follow where the UK has led.”

Last week, a protest in County Wicklow over proposed refugee accommodation led to violent clashes with police who used shields and sprays and arrested six people. Police said rocks and other missiles were thrown and they recovered an axe.
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Report breadnbutter April 28, 2024 6:39 PM BST
Southern Ireland gunna end up with top notch cricket team imvho.
Report SirNorbertClarke April 28, 2024 6:40 PM BST
UK officials can not enter French coastal waters
Report SirNorbertClarke April 28, 2024 6:41 PM BST
Southern Ireland gunna end up with top notch cricket team imvho.

Do Albanians and Vietnamese play cricket?
Report breadnbutter April 28, 2024 6:42 PM BST
^ RACIST
Report impossible123 April 28, 2024 6:45 PM BST
Pass a death sentence on anyone living anywhere in the world convicted of people smuggling esp those responsible for the deaths of the Channel crossers. If this is not a major deterrent I do not know what is. As it is I think some powerful people in many countries are behind this modern-day people smuggling.
Report Whisperingdeath April 28, 2024 11:11 PM BST
Priceless we will not accept them back from Ireland yet want to send them back to France

Our Monsieur, another £500 million!
Report SirNorbertClarke April 29, 2024 7:12 AM BST
'If France won't take them back, neither will we': UK slaps down Irish government plan to return asylum seekers who cross the border

An Irish government plan to send asylum seekers back to Britain was met with a point-blank refusal last night.

Ministers in the republic have pledged to unveil emergency legislation this week which would allow them to return migrants to Northern Ireland following concern over an up-tick in numbers.

But UK Government sources said there would be no deal unless Brussels also agreed to take back migrants who cross the Channel in small boats.
Report TheBetterBettor April 29, 2024 8:41 AM BST

Report lfc1971 April 29, 2024 8:47 AM BST
Now they’re whining , the migrants came from the EU and have returned
to the EU .. don’t call the U.K. south Ireland
Have a word with your EU friends
Report lfc1971 April 29, 2024 8:52 AM BST
Rishi tell the Irish Taoiseach you would love to talk …

but are too busy
Report irishone April 29, 2024 9:25 AM BST
south ireland doesnt exist you t0ssp0t
Report lfc1971 April 29, 2024 10:06 AM BST
We won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU
via south Ireland until the EU accepts that we can
send them back to France …

This Tory government is transpiring to be one of the very greatest
Report xaar April 29, 2024 11:59 AM BST
hello, lfc1971 i see you're still looking for that slap whats the problem?
Report metro john April 29, 2024 12:10 PM BST
Do the Irish pay tax?
Report metro john April 29, 2024 12:13 PM BST
Not got a clue what goes through their small minds in Ireland, they have always come across as psychopaths a bit like the jocks, up their own asses if you know what i mean.
Report metro john April 29, 2024 12:17 PM BST
We should repatriate a few Irish in my opinion, what gives them w a nkers the right to take our jobs?
Report metro john April 29, 2024 12:20 PM BST
Birmingham bombings some of us will never forgive you c u nts!
Report metro john April 29, 2024 12:23 PM BST
Nor your US paymasters, scum of the world!
Report Mexico April 29, 2024 12:36 PM BST
Ireland and France can solve this problem between them.

These people are desperate to flee the problems of being in the EU that they pay criminals thousands and get on a crowded boat only to then walk across an open border to get into the EU.

Ireland were desperate for that border to remain open now is upset that the border is open.


Meanwhile EU external borders are open .
There wouldn’t be anybody fleeing France if everybody was returned to France within 48 hours of arriving at Dover. Would take EU about an hour to solve this problem.
Report SirNorbertClarke April 29, 2024 12:41 PM BST
Once given Irish citizenship they can walk back over the border and claim UK benefits.

That's a perk for Irish people that needs removing
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 12:46 PM BST
We already have our immigration policy decided by the people smugglers and the liberal Lords ,are we to add some guy called "teasock" to the list wtf.
Report lfc1971 April 29, 2024 1:04 PM BST
some good posts here,  and my god they need it said
Report irishone April 29, 2024 1:08 PM BST
"Great" Britain now MUG BRITAIN
Report lfc1971 April 29, 2024 1:13 PM BST
Send the Taoiseach away with a flea in his ear Rishi , cheers
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 1:15 PM BST
The irony ,the ECHR amongst others has contributed to the fact that we have illegal entry economic migrants ,doing as they like ,wandering our streets ,searching for gazelles ,smoking khat or whatever else they do ,yet when a couple wander over to Ireland all hell breaks loose.
We can't control them ,they go where they please ,suck it up.
Report shiny new shoes please April 29, 2024 6:14 PM BST
Watch & learn
Jeffery
Pearl Jam - Daughter CryCry
Report metro john April 29, 2024 6:24 PM BST
I think we should stop tourism to Ireland they have never given us anything.
Report xaar April 29, 2024 6:35 PM BST
https://gfmag.com/data/richest-countries-in-the-world/
Report xaar April 29, 2024 6:36 PM BST
think were doing alright over here metro, you're just a hater in some of the comments guess you're looking for a thump too LaughLaughLaugh
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 6:44 PM BST
"hypocritical Ireland is now facing the consequences of its woke virtue signalling".....the Telegraph.
Couldn't have put it better myself but I would have certainly mentioned sanctimonious Veruca.
Report xaar April 29, 2024 6:46 PM BST
dont see a problem with this policy, if you can send them to Africa we can send them to you Laugh
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 6:50 PM BST
Is it Flat? The UK took them in as such and won't let them back in? The hypocrisy is in that.
Report metro john April 29, 2024 6:54 PM BST
What are conditions like in Africa, the warm weather would tempt many on this island.
Report metro john April 29, 2024 6:55 PM BST
Are they still gonna build that big city they were talking about around 20 years ago? paid for by u know who.
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 6:56 PM BST
Will Ireland accept their feeble ,I am under 18 ,charades and other fairy stories.
Will Ireland home single male African illegal entry economic migrants before indigenous families.
Will Ireland medically treat people with zero documents so excellently that they use it as grounds to stay in the UK before the 8 million documented waiting list.
We did.
Report saddo April 29, 2024 6:57 PM BST
We don't take them in lapsy, the French send them over and we're stuck with em, now it's your turn.
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 7:01 PM BST
The French don't take them back you mean? They want to go to UK.

Well now you don't want them, so the French were correct given your attitude.
Report metro john April 29, 2024 7:02 PM BST

Apr 29, 2024 -- 6:56PM, flat16 wrote:


Will Ireland accept their feeble ,I am under 18 ,charades and other fairy stories.Will Ireland home single male African illegal entry economic migrants before indigenous families.Will Ireland medically treat people with zero documents so excellently that they use it as grounds to stay in the UK before the 8 million documented waiting list.We did.


You mean our leadership did over the last 90 years, you me us them never have choices in Politics.

Report flat16 April 29, 2024 7:05 PM BST
We cannot stop them coming back ,they are like the sacred cows of India ,the chosen ones ,they wander where they like ,no documents ,no responsibility ,no tags ,no accountability.......a symptom of the wokery and a broken system ,single men in gangs and groups everywhere.
Report Dotchinite April 29, 2024 7:10 PM BST
We never wanted them in the first place. Good that they are now Irelands problem.
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 7:12 PM BST
Ha Dotch, i hope you get a 150,000 over the Summer with your attitude. Calm waters.
Report saddo April 29, 2024 7:19 PM BST
lapsy pa 29 Apr 24 19:01 
The French don't take them back you mean? They want to go to UK.


............

We need to make them not want to go to the UK, it's the only thing guaranteed to work.
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 7:22 PM BST
Correct Saddo ,instead of treating them as exalted honoured guests ,treat them for what they are, lieing criminals.
Report Dotchinite April 29, 2024 7:29 PM BST
Thanks lapsy. Perhaps you could explain why we cant send ours back to France but Ireland can send them back to us. Love to hear the logic.
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 7:32 PM BST
Yes Saddo,i agree with that in the main.

What Dotch? Keep up, Mr Sunak says Ireland can't send anyone back to the UK.
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 7:34 PM BST
Another favourite @ Naas ,great place Ireland but asking for logic wtf ,don't hold your breath.
Report Dotchinite April 29, 2024 7:34 PM BST
OH OK so you accept thats fine. My mistake.
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 7:38 PM BST
Flat with respect, The hole is tore off the argument from the UK re sending them back to France when they are themselves saying 'non' in re Ireland, that Telegraph piece skirting around a lot of things especially for its readership.
Report Cider April 29, 2024 7:38 PM BST
One of the most amusing turn of events in politics. And it's a high bar ! Right up there with krankie having her back garden turned over.
Report lapsy pa April 29, 2024 7:43 PM BST
It is a big wake up call for Irish politics, on a few levels,worst one should have seen it coming.
Report Dotchinite April 29, 2024 7:46 PM BST
Europe needs to unite and just send them all back off the entire continent. Theres no other solution as no individual country wants them.
Report Charlie April 29, 2024 7:49 PM BST
Ireland is sparsely populated so could do with a lot of immigration. As xaar said it's very wealthy so can obviously afford to care for a few million immigrants. Forget Rwanda just ship UK immigrants to Northern ireland where they can walk across the border. Everybody's happy.
Report flat16 April 29, 2024 7:49 PM BST
Laps ,France never ever had any intent to take back anybody ,it would be political suicide for the "little napolean".
Only the despised by many ,unelected Cameron spouts such rubbish ,looking back on a idyllic EU membership that never was.
NB ,the Dublin accord for EU members allowed you to return somebody to the country ,they FIRST claimed asylum in.
99.9% do not claim asylum anywhere bar the UK as they arrive here after probably being fast tracked thru the EU.
Anyway your the compassionate one ,whats wrong with a few Nigerians and their dozens and dozens of dependants.
Report saddo April 29, 2024 7:57 PM BST
Dotchinite 29 Apr 24 19:46 
Europe needs to unite and just send them all back off the entire continent. Theres no other solution as no individual country wants them.

..............


I believe that is coming, they'll need some public pressure to allow them to bow to it.
Report Charlie April 29, 2024 7:57 PM BST

Apr 29, 2024 -- 7:49PM, Charlie wrote:


Ireland is sparsely populated so could do with a lot of immigration. As xaar said it's very wealthy so can obviously afford to care for a few million immigrants. Forget Rwanda just ship UK immigrants to Northern ireland where they can walk across the border. Everybody's happy.


Or send a ferry service to France to collect immigrants and their boats. Feed them well, wait for a few hundred to be onboard and then carefully place them back in the their boats close to Dublin. Again everyone's happy. All it needs is a bit of clear thinking.

Report Foinavon April 29, 2024 8:18 PM BST
Even Joseph Heller couldn't have imagined this one. Grin
Report SirNorbertClarke April 29, 2024 8:26 PM BST
If Ireland just granted them citizenship then they can simply return to the UK to live and claim benefits
Report SirNorbertClarke April 29, 2024 8:32 PM BST
For those with Irish Citizenship, whether you are Irish born or naturalised as an Irish citizen, you will not need a visa to emigrate to the UK. The Common Travel Area (CTA) is a designated travel zone between the Republic of Ireland, the UK, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.
Report Foinavon April 29, 2024 8:32 PM BST
Such a cynical act by the Republic could prompt the UK government to revise this historical agreement to the detriment of Irish citizens living here or others thinking of migrating to the UK.
Report Charlie April 29, 2024 8:32 PM BST
It's not that easy to become a citezen of Ireland. They could could change their laws of course but so could we.
Report Cider April 29, 2024 8:33 PM BST
EU obviously not going to sanction that.
Report Charlie April 29, 2024 8:36 PM BST
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to-become-a-citizen/become-an-irish-citizen-by-naturalisation/
.
Report impossible123 April 29, 2024 8:55 PM BST
If Ireland can do that to the UK I can only assume the UK can do the same to the EU. Nice one...game on!

No more passing the buck by the EU. Rwanda is ace!
Report lapsy pa May 14, 2024 12:43 PM BST
Haha,some on here must be sick!

How un-united the UK is, all Rwandan dodgers on the ferry!

No need to go to Ireland for a tent now.
Report shiny new shoes please May 17, 2024 10:46 AM BST
Whoops rishi

Last Train To Trancentral
Laugh
Report lapsy pa May 17, 2024 4:12 PM BST
Jog on and read the Denton report for yourself.^
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:20 PM BST
Don’t look to us for support ,,surely the EU will help you out …
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:23 PM BST
And we don’t want weasel face Michaél Martin asking for any help
Oh by the way these wire fences along the Dublin canal are a sight
Report lapsy pa May 17, 2024 4:28 PM BST
No bite, all Rwandan dodgers on the way to Belfast, planes not applicable in that part of the UK as against the law.
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:30 PM BST
Sure ,, keep that border secure Cool
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:31 PM BST
What’s the Garda going to do ,, shoot them ?
Report lapsy pa May 17, 2024 4:32 PM BST
And that new sea border too Cool
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:34 PM BST
Of course , open borders .. love it Happy
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:37 PM BST
We have a few thousand , actually hundreds of thousands probably millions of  illegals in England
The more they want to leave - anywhere the better .. should be the government policy to light the way point them to south Ireland , good
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:40 PM BST
The flights to Africa will be enough to give them the jitters
Who can blame them ? ..
Report lapsy pa May 17, 2024 4:41 PM BST
You have something in your head,it isn't cognitive reasoning though or the ability to read other peoples posts,they are getting a tent( tent,leave that sink in) in Ireland now.
Report lfc1971 May 17, 2024 4:46 PM BST
ok , if it makes you feel better
Report shiny new shoes please May 17, 2024 4:52 PM BST
Told ya-2 Laugh
Watch  & learn
Good man rishi
Report shiny new shoes please May 17, 2024 6:10 PM BST
Get your house in orderGrin
man-who-was-ruled-a-russian-spy-says-he-worked-with-uk-s-mi6-intelligence
Report irishone May 18, 2024 8:33 PM BST
50 sent back already
Report flat16 May 19, 2024 2:42 PM BST
7,000 sent over this year ,mainly Somalians and Nigerians.
Many of them will have regional UK accents as we have had the pleasure of their company for a while ,lied to get a visa ,them simply refused to go back.
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 3:09 PM BST
thetimes.co.uk/article/why-falling-fertility-spells-a-growing-debt-problem-r...
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 3:46 PM BST
Predictable
euronews.com/health/2024/05/14/europes-fertility-crisis-which-european-country-is-having-the-fewest-babies
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 3:49 PM BST
ExcitedGrin
2024/05/10/pope-tells-italians-they-need-to-have-more-babies-amid-record-low...
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 3:52 PM BST
Penny dropping yet - last 1 endless thou
theconversation.com/women-in-rich-countries-are-having-fewer-kids-or-none-at...
Report flat16 May 19, 2024 4:27 PM BST
From a purely economic point of view ,maybe we should all breed like ++++.
On an environmental standpoint and of course quality of life issue ,decreasing the population ,or hopefully stabilising the population is vastly preferable.
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 6:35 PM BST
It's collapse Laugh
yyoutube.com/watch?v=tk5KoWUwz6Q

youtube.com/watch?v=wPwKYQLs_QI
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 6:40 PM BST
Follow the scienceExcitedLaugh or don't
Drastic
livescience.com/worlds-population-could-plummet-to-six-billion-by-the-end-of-the-century-new-study-suggests
Report saddo May 19, 2024 6:47 PM BST
The planet would be better for it, mankind makes it's own problems.
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 7:48 PM BST
Possible \ yes
I like chaos - do you ?
we understand English racism but we have a different outlook - normally we wouldn't care ExcitedLaugh
Humans aint the  problem thou as explained
Recent shenanigans ExcitedCrazy
The Conspiracy fact-checkers
Agree
Open your mind ExcitedCrazyLaugh

Fix predictive text if your clever l:laugh:]
Useless
Report shiny new shoes please May 19, 2024 8:33 PM BST
Thinks all these imbeciles care about you lol - bless
The grand scheme - how else will ya implement dracion ideology
It's a bit club
& You failed
Again
Report flat16 May 20, 2024 5:29 AM BST
Continue to set yourselves up as the woke conscience of the EU and you will be rewarded with a worsening housing crisis ,huge welfare bill ,rising crime and a completely new culture.
All the time the countries that are copping on and stand firm ,like Hungary and Poland ,you will have their share.
Oh apparently it is very good for the GDP figures though. Allahu Akbar.
Report shiny new shoes please May 20, 2024 10:06 AM BST
Was never a fan but hey history sure does rhyme
timesofisrael.com/britains-near-brush-with-fascism-the-politician-who-rooted-for-hitler/

We could blame covid for pouring fuel on the fire seems trust in politics is near an all time low
or many other events
Bailouts
war
poverty
CollusionGrin.
Coercion
Corruption
Colonialism

youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ
Whoops
Report shiny new shoes please May 20, 2024 6:08 PM BST
Devil
youtube.com/watch?v=qByb85ugAww
Report shiny new shoes please May 21, 2024 8:16 AM BST
Seems 2 be a "tread"
youtube.com/watch?v=TRMIb02za_4.
It's only just begun Cry
Report irishone May 21, 2024 8:27 AM BST
40 + ukrainians dropped into community housing in north galway 18 months ago

6 left there now

the rain finds them out
Report Charlie May 21, 2024 8:35 AM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report shiny new shoes please May 21, 2024 9:03 AM BST
Well done

the UK  used migration to boost their population and compensate for falling fertility rates.
More lots more
bbc.com/news/health-53409521
Report irishone May 21, 2024 8:24 PM BST
can only agree with that
Report Charlie May 21, 2024 8:25 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
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