BBC apologises for calling far right Reform ‘far-Right’

Sounds like the Beebs lawyers knocked some sense in to their journalists.

Nah, just the right wing nutters running bbc swapping
horses whilst the tory ship sinks

BBC will sink also, Newsnight budget halved. Their incessant use of 'far right' to describe
anyone without Guardian tendencies will be one reason many ordinary people have switched off.

Oh yeah, that old shtick "We oppose the Conservatives as much as Labour." But really they are only interested in taking votes away from Labour. That is their purpose, as it was in the last GE when they called themselves something else.

My barber is a Cypriot, nice guy. Never voted in the UK. But his son is standing for Reform in a very safe Conservative seat. He is 20.

I suspect the BBC are intentionally causing outrage in the hope that when most people stop paying the TV licence fee, the government will step in and fund them.
Which will suit the corporation's overpaid leaders immensely.

That won't suit the government of the day, because it blows their cover. And the BBC will be seen for what is always has been, which is a tool of the government.
And the government will have to take the flack for the rubbish programmes and the spiralling waste.

Man starts off with Labour Goes to the Tories , now to the FAR RIGHT Reform Party

Is he far right or does he just thing the Other two parties are full of Woke shyte is the Question , and Because a Party are anti Globalist and Woke Shyte

Why are they Deemed far right ?

Only and Idiot would think that , Or a BBC associate

But really they are only interested in taking votes away from Labour.

I would not be too worried about Reform Doing that UB , George and his Amazing Workers (Who Don't Work) will be Labours Worry

reform will not be Targeting  Labour and Amazing Workers areas

BBC are a bunch of headless chickens

BBC are a bunch of headless chickens

Richard The Fourth explains all

https://youtu.be/MZqU0NlTSGc?si=sEjVCz9OYVsDV6SV

Of course it's far right.

The BBC of course is far left and should not be tax payer funded

Do Reform have any strategy to get a voice in parliament other than relying on the occasional defector who's been booted out of the duopoly?

There's been a few 'new' parties over the years, some of them occasionally gaining substantial voter support, none of them (with the exception of SNP) have overcome the first past the post Labour/Tory stranglehold.

Is the Reform party happy to be "also rans" like the greens, just collecting ££££ donations, or do they have a plan to get into parliament other than the tried and tested route to nowhere?

The aim of the Reform Party at this election
is to bring about the end of the Conservative Party

It will also appeal to the more intelligent Labour voters
Although Labour will retain its usual block vote of leftist
middle and upper classes and ethnics

Saw some social media yesterday of a few of their candidates. No surprises to find the usual rabble calling for anyone with a tan to be deported. Campaign should be fun when they're constantly forced to either defend those viewpoints or be on the back foot apologising.

The aim of the Reform Party at this election
is to bring about the end of the Conservative Party

That sounds like a dream, and fair enough, nothing wrong with dreams.

I'd say to achieve that, they will absolutely need murdoch to back them instead of the conservatives.
So do they have any plans to get murdoch on their side, or is it just airy fairy dreaming?

It will also appeal to the more intelligent Labour voters
Although Labour will retain its usual block vote of leftist
middle and upper classes and ethnics

Ah yes, the well trodden, tried and tested path to nowhere.

Well we will see how well the Tory party does won’t we ?

People will vote for Reform because they're neither Tory nor Labour.

The idea of voting for Reform in the first instance, is to show the Tories that they'll never win another GE while they mimic New Labour.

While the Muslim situation will increasingly damage the Labour  vote.

If Reform get a few MPs good for them. Who knows where that might lead?

If Labour do get elected, I don't expect them to complete a full term.
Or to continue with Starmer as leader.
There are too many divisions in the party for them to operate as an effective government.

And if you're going to vote Labour, you might as well leave the Tories in power.

Their policies are the same, and the Tories haven’t got any left-wing lunatics.

a minute's silence please for doc at this most difficult time

Well we will see how well the Tory party does won’t we ?

Great idea, lets see how well the the Tory party did a month ago, that might give a very rough guide to what is likely in 6-8 months.
(I'll leave out rochdale because Reform were never going to out galloway galloway.)

Kingswood 2019 Tory seat with 27,700 votes
2024 Tory lose to labour with 8,600 votes, reform get 2,500 votes

Tories lose 19,000 and Reform manage to pick up just 13% of those tory voters.

Wellingborough 2019 Tory seat with 32,000 votes
2024 Tory lose to labour with 7,400 votes, reform get 3,900 votes

Tories lose 25,000 and Reform manage to pick up just 15% of those tory voters.



So far, looking like Reform are on the road to nowhere, "Plan working well, send more money".
Politicians need dreams to engage the public, but with out plans they're staying in dreamland.

I dont understand the logic of complaining that the same two parties fight out every election but voting for anyone else is a wasted vote. Seats swing between parties and sometimes its a gradual process.

If you follow the myths of ‘cant win here’ and ‘a vote for x is a vote for y’ then you are voting for the two party status quo.

This election is easy to vote for reform. The tories are far enough behind to let labour have this one and give the tories the punishment they deserve. Starmer isnt much different to tories so whatever. Reform may be the future if the culture war is moving away from traditional left/right arguments. And if if doesnt they may be a good tool to orce the tories into reforms direction.

I'm not complaining, just looking at reality.

Lib/dems had a plan, focus on Devon & Cornwall, and when they achieved actual seats in councils and parliament, roll it out eastwards across the country. This plan actually worked and they made the biggest inroads into usurping the duopoly for a hundred years, they got powerful voice in 2010 and then fluffed it badly in the corridors of power.

Greens, don't have a plan, regularly get 20% of the vote in some regions, but are happy to sit back, let the donations keep rolling in and stay in dreamland.


Are reform aspiring to the greens model or the lib dems model?

do they have a plan is all I'm asking?

A vote for the tories at this election is a wasted vote

Every single vote for Reform is super valuable

Crippens has after timed voting for every government since 1979.

His forum persona relies on supporting those in power

Ha ha ha, Wtf is he going to do next

Its a fair question but i dont think its that important. I dont think lib dems success came about that way but arguably the seats led to their peak when cleggy got a seat on a three way debate.

I dont believe that reform getting 1 or 2  or zero seats is a huge disaster for them, as long as they can show that they are close in lots of constituencies.
It means next time around, many people who think their constituency is impossible to swing may have another look

Hilarity from Reform today when they claimed that one nation conservatives are destroying the Tory party

Mrs T was a one nation conservative and a big fan of the Single Market.

That was the EU of many decades ago. Nothing wrong with the single market.
It's the stuff that came with it since that swayed the Brexit vote to come out.

I don’t think Thatcher would associate herself with the policies of today’s Conservative party.

If there is nothing wrong with the single market why did sh!t for brains David Front and the Fat Liar yank the UK out of it?

Don't Agree with spending Billions on Nut Green Schemes in the UK , that will make no difference to World Climate
Don't want a Country flooded with unknown  Immigrants ,That cant Be Housed and will put more Pressure on already struggling Services
Sick of Listening to Bleeding heart luvvies , who actually do not Give a fook
Don't want men  in wigs Entering toilets for Females
Sick to death of constant WOKE BOLLIX

FAR RIGHT

Count me in

why did sh!t for brains David Front and the Fat Liar yank the UK out of it?

I've already said ''the stuff that came with it.''

Think all Religion is Practiced by Lunatics suffering from Delusions or Brain Washing Or pretending to Follow a Religion to Enhance their political Agenda

Proud of the Country you live in and worried about its Future


FAR RIGHT

Another two boxes ticked

''the stuff that came with it.''


What like the mechanism for returning illegal immigrants to France?

2 million Empty houses over there ,you Said Nob

Why are they leaving France , There are no houses Here , What is the Problem with them living in France ?
In fact why do they want to come here instead of staying in France is the main question ?

Makes no sense to me

Quite a lot of empty houses are in areas were there isnt
regular employment.

Folks heading to big cities.

If we had two million Empty houses I could even understand Let more People in , We do not

We do not have affordable Housing for Folks living here

This mob of unknown People strolling up our Beaches have no right what so ever to be here

Its a house where ever it is Donnie ,Better than a Tent , This mob of Unknowns will not be doing too Much work anyway

Youngsters in this Country have little or No chance of ever Owning a House ,Enough problems renting one

The more the Population Increases the Worse the Problem will become

Billions upon Billions wasted on Covid and Nut Green ,Cheap affordable Housing should be being Built , Not fooking windmills

Oh yeah, you are right mid to long term but short term
it doesn't work.

That's why there continues to be cheap
housing available in France. But in wrong
parts of France for vast majority.

What like the mechanism for returning illegal immigrants to France?


Pure fantasy.

Since when did France ever accept the return of illegal immigrants from the UK?

Why don't the French stop them leaving France? That's what we pay them for.

So how many arrived in the UK from France yesterday. Over 500 was it?

Yet the French agreed to stop them coming.

What France agree to and what they do are very different.

Twice as many as we can send to Rwanda at £2,000,000
a pop.

Could send them on a world cruise, first class
and then house them in Frances cheap houses
for less than idiot tories are spending on their
election gimmick

There is no Far Right in this country, it's just an establishment sanctioned term (proximal to Fascist, Gammon, Nazi et al) used to pathologize a straightforwardly nativist, self determinative, existential concern that has been the normative, default position, throughout all history.


You either condemn, unequivocally the ongoing dissolution and demographic replacement of European people, or you are racist, bigoted filth.

Genuine diversity, necessarily, is seated on distinction, the preservation of difference, completely distinct from the version of "diversity"  imposed across Europe, top down, without consent, by an elite - a "diversity" that in reality is just a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along, in which each minority forms a vanguard to pursue its own slice of the pie.

Name one, multicult in history that has not, necessarily, required a relatively authoritarian stewardship to keep the entire thing from falling apart?

It's BS all of it, in its absolute entirety. Anybody using such a term should be absolutely ashamed.

There is no Far Right in this country

That's an absurd proposition.

There are a spectrum of political opinions in this country from left to right or right to left, and by definition every spectrum has its far ends, ergo there is a Far Right in this country.

I think what you're trying to say is the Far Right in this country are decent correct thinking people.

In any reasonable historical sense, if a position has been normative and default throughout most of human history, outside the last 80 years or so, then it is not Far anything, it does not exist on that tightly confined, post WW11, contemporary neo liberal axiality.

Were the BNP far right lux?

If we wanna be precise then absolutism is far right. Certainly not cuddly Nick Griffin.

St Georges Day March London , The old Wokey Remainers will be Seething , A day of Roaring about the Far Right

His lynch mob stitch up on Question Time is an absolute classic, I have to concede.

Another Tory has Joined Reform

Dan Barker was selected only three months ago as the Tory candidate to challenge the incumbent mayor, Labour’s Andy Burnham, in May’s elections.

so BNP isn't far right for you?

watched it the other week, hilarious

A people rejecting its colonisation is not far right, nope. sorry. Happy to be convinced otherwise.

So can I suggest you're opinion of what is and isn't far right in modern politics is your own if you don't even consider the BNP as far right enough. You're welcome to your own opinions and political preference of course, but if you think the BNP isn't far right then you're not remotely representative of the vast majority of this country.

PP ...

I'm quite happy to concede that most people (80% or so) are dead from the neck up conventionalists, happy to go along with the dominant hegemony.

That doesn't really engage with the substance of what I previously posted though.

I'll ask one last time, how can it reasonably be considered Far right, Fascist, insert whatever state sanctioned pejorative, for a people to reject its dissolution and demographic replacement?

A straightforward question i've asked on here multiple times previously, I'm yet to receive a response. Just disengagement.



will look in tomorrow, have a good evening.

Even if a coalition of Hitler, Mussolini, Fred West, & Priti Patel were running the country there'd always be nutters saying what we need is a proper right-wing government!

Because the people aren't being dissolved you whimpering melon.

Similar:
cessation
conclusion
end
ending
finish
termination


What about being replaced?

So tell me how people are being ended or finished please.

They are no longer the majority in London
so they have been replaced there - and sooner than you think
they will be the minority in England

History shows us all  great countries and civilisations commit suicide - and England was the greatest
And that is what it is doing right before your eyes

They are no longer the majority in London
so they have been replaced there - and sooner than you think
they will be the minority in England

London is still a great place to live if you want to live in a city.

Of course there are some scuzzy places and scuzzy people like any conurbation in the UK. but overall we Londoners get on fine with each other.

I think non-Londoners have been affected by tory immigration much more than Londoners as the percentage increase is relatively huge in some of the tory immigration dumping areas outside London.

tory immigration dumping areas outside London

History shows us all great countries and civilisations commit suicide – and England was the greatest
And that is what it is doing right before your eyes

And has been since New Labour took charge in 1997.

Cameron won in 2010 and decided Blair's way was the way to win elections. And look at the state the country is in now as a result of mass immigration, liberalism, high taxation and borrowing, which Blair started.
No wonder the Tories are on the rocks.
So now in a desperate attempt to thwart any revival of conservative values in politics, the dirty left refer to them as far-right.

Which idiots voted for Bliar, and defended him on forum?

Ha ha, gb news cartoon doctored to bbc...