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CLYDEBANK29
14 Mar 24 13:33
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Where is the money now?
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Report Escapee March 14, 2024 12:44 PM GMT
Tax havens
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 14, 2024 12:44 PM GMT
Sailing around the Med.
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 12:45 PM GMT
I certainly don't expect to get the answer on here, but I suspect the answer is the vast majority in the hands of the super rich in places like the gated communities of Cobham and Oxshott, or in the hands of wealthy and corrupt foreign businessmen in places like Turkey, China and Malaysia.

And what is it going to mean for the future of this country?  The single biggest event in modern history of increasing inequality between rich and poor.
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 12:47 PM GMT
Things are only going to get worse
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 12:54 PM GMT
The media, government and public have fooked everyone for generations.  No one with the balls, foresight or brains was given a platform to spell out the damage it would do.
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 1:05 PM GMT
Bloody food banks everywhere, house prices astronomical, rent exorbitant, national and local government potless, tax at record recent highs, can't get an NHS dentist unless you already have one, inequality at record levels.  And only logical conclusion is all will get worse, regardless of who is in power.
Report Cider March 14, 2024 1:06 PM GMT
Plenty of people were calling it out. I was calling it out before lockdown was called! When all the 'smart' people were demanding we copied the ccp.

Too many vested interests. Too many people sniffed the opportunity of getting a super extended holiday. Plus of course, the idiots who thought it was a lethal infection.

If you count all the useful idiots, the people enriching themselves, those who wanted to cause political and economic damage, those who got a net benefit out of lockdown, doesn't leave a lot out, does it.
Report thegiggilo March 14, 2024 1:08 PM GMT
They got the lot,time to blame migrants and the disabled who are claiming benefits...hopefully long term it will end these two scumbag parties ..
Report Cider March 14, 2024 1:11 PM GMT
You're mixing a lot up there CB. A lot of that was set in place before lockdown.

How are you defining inequality ?
Report peckerdunne March 14, 2024 1:11 PM GMT
The donors have it obviously, that's how it works.
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 1:16 PM GMT
Cider, I'm not defining it, I can see it for my own eyes.  It's bloody obvious
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 1:21 PM GMT
I was always against lockdown, except at the very start (earlier than we actually did) to give us time to prepare and get the knowledge how bad the disease was going to be.  Because the bottom line always was that more people will end up dieing long term.  But the media prevented that narrative and individuals lacked the courage to fly against the narrative.
Report Cider March 14, 2024 1:27 PM GMT
One of my arguments was obvious, if you do it, you're never get out of it. As the politicians will be blamed for any subsequent deaths, esp with the incessant need to obtain political capital against Tories.

You need to definite otherwise the phrase is meaningless. You said you've won a million plus gambling, right. That's considerably unequal. Many people graft physically hard to earn a fraction of that. Are you advocating giving up your capital to them?
Report DancingBraveTheBest March 14, 2024 1:50 PM GMT
Charlie Chaplain and Co will be along soon to tell us it was all done in our best interests......their heads STILL in the sand ffsSad
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 14, 2024 2:21 PM GMT
Your regular reminder that not having a lockdown and furlough scheme would have seen thousands of businesses going bankrupt within weeks, millions on the dole and the economy crashing through the inner core.
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 2:45 PM GMT
It's a bizarre concept that shutting down business would have less economic impact than keeping them running
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 2:50 PM GMT
Cider, I don't think I or anyone similar to me, have any of the £40bn.  I only have the one house.  I have been lucky enough to be in a position to give my eldest son £150k to get him on the property ladder and he's still in a worse position than I was in 1990 when I bought my first property imo.  That's a fecked up economy.
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 14, 2024 3:12 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2024 -- 3:45PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


It's a bizarre concept that shutting down business would have less economic impact than keeping them running


It's really not that bizarre.

Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 3:14 PM GMT
We'll disagree.  At least you are allowed to disagree in this country.  That puts as way ahead of many other countries.
Report Cider March 14, 2024 3:27 PM GMT
Cider, I don't think I or anyone similar to me, have any of the £40bn.  I only have the one house.  I have been lucky enough to be in a position to give my eldest son £150k to get him on the property ladder and he's still in a worse position than I was in 1990 when I bought my first property imo.  That's a fecked up economy.


That's why you need to define what you mean by inequality. You being able to give your son the cost of a new house, tax free, would be considered grossly unequal by many many people. There's no form of economy that allows for all people to get free houses.
Report Cider March 14, 2024 3:29 PM GMT
I'm picking you up on it as you're generally sensible, so trotting out these socialist fantasies is very odd.
Report casemoney March 14, 2024 3:52 PM GMT
Plenty of Businesses Received Payments , think there was 15 Running out of one Office Laugh

5 k a month to couples to sit round on their rsoles Pay off their Car Loans and Credit cards

All fully supported by both Sides of the HOC ,They could not give enough away
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- March 14, 2024 4:26 PM GMT
Prime ministers wife got loans, then went bust, nothing to repay

Kerching, makes up for non dom status...
Report Whisperingdeath March 14, 2024 5:46 PM GMT
There were no parties at Number 10

Doris did not lie to Parliament

and it all went wrong when they got rid of Doris, isn’t that right cider?
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 6:12 PM GMT
Cider I didn't buy my son a house, I bought him half a £300k house.  The 2 bed flat I bought for £60k (current equivalent £140k) is now worth £500k.  So just on the numbers despite me buying half his house, he is still worse off than I was.  I had the equivalent of a £140k debt on a property worth 67% more than the £150k debt he has on his house.  And he's lucky
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 6:22 PM GMT
It seems extortionate, but without my help he'd never be able to buy what is a small property, until I kicked the bucket.  (what a goal Bowen) Crazy as it seems, I think house prices in most areas are set to rise further.  Forgot to mention, he also has about £40ks worth of student debt.  Socialist clap trap, not imo.  An economy that has gone backwards for 30 years, unless you are very wealthy.  I'd say so.
Report Whisperingdeath March 14, 2024 6:26 PM GMT
Socialist Fantasy?

Wanting your children to own their own home?
Report metro john March 14, 2024 6:28 PM GMT
A lease whisperingdeath!
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 14, 2024 6:53 PM GMT
Actually, I take that back a little bit.  What I should have said is an economy that has gone backwards for 30 years unless you are very wealthy, the progeny of wealthy parents or late middle aged and elderly.
Report Kriskin March 14, 2024 7:10 PM GMT
It was the biggest Scamdemic in history.  Transfer of wealth to the rich.  The so called middle class getting whacked with paying it back
Report Cider March 14, 2024 7:17 PM GMT
Cider I didn't buy my son a house, I bought him half a £300k house.  The 2 bed flat I bought for £60k (current equivalent £140k) is now worth £500k.  So just on the numbers despite me buying half his house, he is still worse off than I was.  I had the equivalent of a £140k debt on a property worth 67% more than the £150k debt he has on his house.  And he's lucky


I didn't say you bought him a house I said you gifted him enough to buy a house. Using 'house' term loosely, it's enough to buy a place to live for a single person in most normal areas. Anyway that's a deflection. I'd say most parents can't drop their kids £150K, so that is iniquity that has benefited your family. Would you rather that wasn't possible?

As for property prices, this is a phenomenon reflected around the developed West due to mass migration and effective zero cost borrowing. ie globalisation. Young people might well find it harder to get on the property ladder for sure, overall they lead hugely pampered and luxury lifestyles compared to their predecessors.
Report Johnny The Guesser March 14, 2024 10:42 PM GMT
The Government pump £400bn into the economy.
That wealth when spent will always move towards the people and businesses that add value.
That's how capitalism works.
Report Whisperingdeath March 15, 2024 12:09 AM GMT
Yeah

Like Michell Mone and her children. £29 million of Tax Payer money into an Offshore Trust. Another £29 million to Dougie all from a contract worth £203 million and they were doing the NHS a favour.

But tge real villains are the taxi drivers who do not declare their cash takings.
Report thegiggilo March 15, 2024 12:17 AM GMT
Where's the 37 billion for track and trace...apparenty there's no money lol,when there's actually piles of it..
Report peckerdunne March 15, 2024 12:30 AM GMT
Johnny says it's out there in the community doing good work
Report mitolo March 15, 2024 12:45 AM GMT
it was a disaster for some a goldmine for others and has left a legacy of unemployment for some who got rather used to it

pecker-i was amazed to hear how generous the payments were in direland. from a girl who spent lockdown on her family farm in mayo and got 300 euro a week for doing nothing. she saved it up and is now here again

and the real mitolo copped for 800k. thats right. 800. and he was legit. incredible. i didnt get a nana
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 15, 2024 11:15 AM GMT
A huge problem with PPE was government couldn't be seen to use backhanders needed to secure the contracts.  That's where the likes of Michelle Mone stepped in.  They had the corrupt contracts
Report Shrewd_dude March 15, 2024 12:05 PM GMT
Where's the 37 billion for track and trace...

It was spent on forcing young healthy people to get the vaccine so the fearties didn't have panick attacks at the thought of being in the supermarket with someone that was unvaccinated.

Do you think all these vaccines fell off the back of a lorry and we never paid for them?
Report lfc1971 March 15, 2024 12:05 PM GMT
Was 400bn more or less than other countries such as Germany or France ?
Report lfc1971 March 15, 2024 12:18 PM GMT
The German cabinet on Wednesday approved a draft budget
with a new debt of 100bn euros to finance more covid 19 measures
pushing up total pandemic related borrowing in the period 2020-2022
to 470 billion euros
Report shiny new shoes please March 15, 2024 1:40 PM GMT
The tyrannical showed there face
Corruption hit new highs
You secured pharma for a while + + dividends
Report Whisperingdeath March 15, 2024 2:10 PM GMT
Sackler family bought their freedom in the US
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