Sir Lindsay Hoyle, not as impartial as he makes out.

Hes taking all the heat. Starmer needs to be questioned on this.

Starmer is a total disgrace who used dead children as a political football.

He is a Tory ffs. Posters of that disease Thatcher in his bedroom.

He behaved utmost dishonourably. He was "bending" the rule and abused his duty and responsibility as Speaker Of The House.

Shame on him. His reputation has been tarnished beyond repair. Time to resign, and move on. Otherwise, the damage can only get worse.

Bye, bye Mr Hoyle's!

At least they've now got the wedge issue they've been desperate to find. Listening to Mordaunt speaking just now, sounds like she thinks that thinking all her birthdays have come at once

....that she thinks that....^^

I think he made a terrible mistake.

I think he has an honourable man. What he did was wrong and he has to go but so do all the current MP’s who are more concerned with Thd Gravy Train Express.

Tories no better than the Republicans in the Senate. Oh and yes Starmer is a Tory

I think he has an honourable man.

He is not honourable. This is horse5hit these morons in the HOC are spouting.

He knowingly took the decision with the clerk of the HOC going so far as to put in a written letter and then release it.

If you knowingly do something you know is wrong, you are not honourable. You are self serving.

I don’t think it was self serving

How did it serve him….. go on explain

SIR Kier Starmer trying to wriggle out of the rumours that say he threatened Sir LH with the sack if he didn't do what he said.
I really despise Starmer. he looks like a smarmy B45tard

you despise everyone, particularly yourself.

It makes you happy being miserable!

You have to get really personal WD don't you, i find that quite sad.
I despise Starmer, Sunak, and many self serving politicians.
along with Illegal immigrants who break the law to get into our country to p0nce and commit crime.
But i have admiration for a lot more people , whether they be on the left or right of politics.
and as for being miserable, if you knew the life i have, which is all of my own making, and the wonderful family i have,
then miserable i am not, the only thing making me miserable is this weather.

If the rumours regarding Starmer and what was said at his meeting with the Speaker
are true Starmer should resign or be sacked .. if true

There are a few on here Dam who like to give out personal insults.....best pity them and ignore them...thats what i do.....they know who they are

Feb 22, 2024 -- 2:08PM, DancingBraveTheBest wrote:

There are a few on here Dam who like to give out personal insults.....best pity them and ignore them...thats what i do.....they know who they are

Thats what i'll do DBTB .

That’s right!

Dish out abuse to people you don’t even know and get offended when someone gives it back. Pathetic stuff

But it’s likely it was something that escalated out of hand and the total chaos surprised
both Hoyle and Starmer,, they don’ t understand the nature of those within the commons or their own parties
and how things can go now - that’s most likely

This episode rather puts a different slant on ‘according to Hoyle’.

Whispering ....we all know politicians are systematically ruining Britain and like Dam says they are all self serving as far as I can tell. We the public should be sticking together against them instead of insulting each other.

wd is far from being the worst on this forum ,, and takes quite a bit of flak himself
He’s insults rarely are personal and usually quite mild - unlike many others

Most mps are trying to do a difficult job to their best ability . There have been major crisis we have had to face here and elsewhere Perhaps it’s not the politicians that are to blame but the people

I’ve never seen a more genuine, heartfelt apology in Parliament than Hoyle’s, yet plenty still want his head.
A sad reflection on today’s world inside and outside the house.
I dare say if the SNP took a different approach Hoyle might look more kindly upon them.

Btw I don’t know what lfc1971 is writing as I blocked him previously for being abusive as I recall.

I don’t profess to be nice , especially to those who are abusive and hypocrites ,,, block away

Thank you lfc!

I try not to be mean to people but there are some rude insulting twerps on here who dish out their invective, lies and propaganda who generally cannot even think for themselves or forward an argument but repeat what they have heard on Gammon Brexit News, Talk Trash TV, Tommy " El Tomaso " Yaxley-Lennon, That idiot woman ( Hopkins ) who also lied and lost everything like El Tomaso and Ginger Fox. Ignorant bigoted Taliban types.

I think Hoyle's apology was honest. What he did was terribly wrong and I think he must go now, unfortunately.

The Tories are just aping the behaviour of Republicans in the Senate.

Who do they want as speaker? They are the ones bringing down Parliamentary standards.

Tickets on The Gravy Train are up for grabs. Don't vote for any of the mainstream parties. Shake it up, they do not deserve our support

You’re welcome wd

Starmer and Labour little better btw

IPA day tomorrow

of course , but after playing golf in the morning ,, been injured for 6 weeks
so looking forward to it

Its not good if you fall after a few drinks and hurt yourself

Well you should not be able to feel the pain till the next day!

Hoyles desperate grovelling apology was to save his own arse. After he ran away and left the deputy to deal with the sh1t his collusion with Starmer had created.

Look at the power that the minority muslims and the gullible goons wield, and the party is not even in power yet. 

Hoyle's justification for what he did was absurd in the extreme. Apparently protecting MPs from having to make a choice that some people don't like. Well boo hoo.

I like WD too lfc. We first started conversing on the Cricket forum, a common interest and continued here. We are from different ends of the political spectrum but who cares.

well said foin , sensible and wise and indeed good as usual

The SNP sense of entitlement along with their scotch followers  knows no bounds
They are not the opposition the Labour Party is -and should not be allowed to introduce this vote in Westminster  -  They are a party whose aim ( along with their membership )is to undermine Britain at every opportunity,,, have as many votes as you like in holyrood but not Westminster ,,, and stay there

They would sort out the UK in a few days , thing is, Westminster M P 's are untrustworthy , never could be trusted for years, and I mean years

I've just seen this on the news. The question I have is does Michael Fabricant wear a wig?

Is the Pope Catholic?

Hoyle should not have apologised but he did so he has to go. The SNP are a discredited rabble whose only purpose is to try to save their seats from Labour,

The Baldy Flynn is a piece of work

Dave Lammy seems to have the best Idea along with others

Temp/Humanitarian Ceasefire
Hand the Hostages over
Then sort a Ceasefire

Of course there maybe an Issue if there a very few if Any hostages still alive

Other than that I cannot see why this is not acceptable to all Parties

At the end of the day Mr Netanyahu needs to be brought to The Hague and charged with genocide. And, no Western politician can dispute that.

Its not the End of the Day far from it , and what Mr Lammy suggests makes Sense  to me 

As for war crimes that can be dealt with once this dreadful situation is sorted out

Ends the killings in Gaza immediately. Then bring Mr Netanyahu to The Hague and answer for war crime against humanity.

What about the Hostages I wonder if they are still being Killed ?

I believe there are even Brits among them , Seems plenty dont care about them

Hostages from both camps irrespective of origin must be released from captivity too immediately. They are the pawns in this war, and innocent.

And, Speaker of The House Sir Hoyle has to resign for being weak to allow manipulation by some Labour Islamic MPs to amend that proposed by The SNP. He's dishonoured himself and the working of Parliament.

You seem to be in a muddle , hamas and their fellow travellers mps or not
would be perfectly happy with the snp

manipulation by some Labour Islamic MPs


You seem to have quite a bit more detail on this than some outlets. Can you please share your evidence that it was Labour Islamic MP's behind the decision.

Ta

Imppossible seems to be the thickest person ive ever seen,it was Starmer to enable the racist zionists idiot,the cpmplete opposite of what you said..

Here’s how it is impossible
Hamas terrorists - happy with the snp , less happy with labour , and less happy again with conservatives

Who's been speaking out against Israel and the Jewish people in the UK? Who's been suspended from The Labour Party for anti-Semitic comments? Who's been disobeying Keir Starmer and the Labour Party for not calling for a ceasefire?

Hamas is a terrorist group. Hamas only cares about themselves; Hamas does not care about his "own" who they will use as human shield. As such, I've no time for them. They'd disappear from the face of the earth as far as I'm concerned.

The innocent Gazan are the victims.

Well lots of people have been speaking about Israel. Isn't it about 80% of the public now who want a ceasefire?

Talking about Jewish people in the UK? Literally no idea. Is it the Labour Islamic MP's?

Suspended from Labour? Yeah, that one guy. Not an MP. And not Labour.

Who has been suspended? Is it these Labour Islamic MP's?

80%? I suppose if you ask the question on the street most would say yes, it's how
people are. Still no one has mentioned this war to me since the first week, no one. And I
was working with a Jewish lad all day last week.

bit racist to assume the jewish lad would be more inclined to mention it but never mind

Someone who dislikes Jews but daren't say so calling me racist, I can live with that.

Never see PorcupineorPineapple throw disproportionate and baseless junk about George Soros and globalist conspiracies out there.

To be fair, if saddo couldn't live with being called a racist he'd have ended it all many, many years ago.

TOTP on bbc4 now. Must be very early 1981. Shaddap you face still number one. Is it racist to point out my wife doesn't find this song as charming as I do?

Then again the fault wouldn’t be his but yours
And it’s you that should be ashamed

BREAKING: Speaker Lindsay Hoyle has denied the SNP a second debate on a ceasefire in Gaza despite previously offering one.

The revelation came after Stephen Flynn raised a point of order in the House of Commons

im hearing snp going to boycott westminster until they get debate

What a surprise,bought and paid for..

Boycott good riddance don’t come back

It’s a shocking state of affairs that Hoyle is allowed to insinuate his actions were due to threats, then go on and imply white extremism by naming them exclusively.

I doubt that very much that the excuse the preferred wording of Labour was chosen over SNP because there’s evidence that ‘white extremism’ is threatening those willing to back a ceasefire, rather than those supporting a ceasefire vociferously and attacking surgeries and chanting racist songs on the multiple Hamas supporting rallies on the streets being the ones who would have been treating those that don’t back one.