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impossible123
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...still believes it's not illegal or unlawful to lie or not own up when she was questioned in public to protect his family. Ms Mone denied she was "involved" to procuring PPE. Her family made over £60m (about 1/3 of £202m contract).

This woman has the gall to say the above; she said she acted on the advice of her then advisors.
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Report northanlite December 18, 2023 7:55 AM GMT
feck me. what sort of morally bankrupt loser would try and justify that sort of egregious behaviour.
A: ^ that guy
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 8:32 AM GMT
Yes the chaos was there alright. At this point the Tories saw a big opportunity. The odious grasping Hooray Henries with their sense of entitlement, used foresight. They did not reflect on their greed sleaze and corruption, they grabbed their chance to nick billions, yes billions of tax payers’ pounds and enrich their chums.

Even Handcock’s former barman got a nice fat wad, for hee haw.

I hope some of the sleaze merchants get the jail. Serve them right.

It’s not right to say that a Tory peer getting. £60 million pound bung at our expense was “anti woke”. It’s silly.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 8:50 AM GMT
oh dear god no, they did not use "foresight" they used inside info
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 8:51 AM GMT
we all hate corruption we are not part of Cool
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 9:05 AM GMT
Just bizarre to defend profiteering at time
of national crisis.

Sad little people happy to pay more tax to replace
stolen money, and have less services as cuts hit home.

None of the stolen £60,000,000 ends up in the
apologist's pocket, but they continue to defend the theft
like dutiful halfwits.
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 9:08 AM GMT
Yes but the Tories have still a few “useful idiots” trying to defend their sleaze greed and corruption even when it’s so plain it’s bleeding’ obvious.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 9:16 AM GMT
when will torry dafties stop listening to what they say and start looking at what they actually do???
probably never, suckers for the promise delivered with a posh accent.
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 9:52 AM GMT
Yes it’s amazing that they keep falling for the Tory lies and seem happy to put up with the Hooray Henries with their sense of entitlement to rule over us, fleecing us all rotten.

Why do they put up with the Tory toffs stressing over which shade of aquamarine to paint their latest yacht whilst telling those queueing a food banks to shut up and tighten their belts?
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 9:56 AM GMT
the best thing that could ever happen to this country is a bulldozer through the networking sites that are eaton & harrow & charterhouse.
we have regressed so far as an egalitarian society, not that we ever really were.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 10:07 AM GMT
Panic buying at inflated prices is not the same as premeditated fraud and corruption - a situation compounded by having to go on live tv every night to explain what you are doing about the lack of PPE.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 10:18 AM GMT
It's fraud, she was profiteering

Don't you understand Johnny.

Why would you procure substandard goods and seek
to make a huge profit from it in time of national
crisis

We are all in it together, lol.

Then try to hide it for 3 years

Fair enough if people were doing it for a small
profit or at cost,... But the pound signs were whirling
in tory eyes

More utter mugs defending them.
Report flat16 December 18, 2023 10:31 AM GMT
In every country calm rational and common sense ,went out the window..........media driven hysteria was the state of play ,every night the roll call of death ,ppe shortages ,stories of plight, people "stranded" in far flung places ,that we must send jets to ,bring them back put coach loads in quarantine.
What were they threatened with, cannibals and human sacrifice ,no ffs they were in India and NZ ,utter stupidity + madness everywhere.
Human nature dictated ,panic ,hoarding and yes profiteering........the only place you could get ppe was ebay........the stuff nicked from the hospitals.
People make billions in wars/disasters/famines etc....fact.
Now you smug ,smart asses can think of a system that works fairly and sensibly with your sanctimonious hindsight for next time because no one else has yet.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 10:32 AM GMT
Making a profit is not fraud for starters.

You have no idea whether it was fraud or not - neither do I. We have not seen the contracts.

Maybe the PPE was  sold "as seen" ? - Is that fraud ?
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 10:41 AM GMT
and that is why they get away with it. the cap doffers just don't care as long as the fraudsters seem like decent sorts
who they might have a g&t with. woe betide you if you fiddle yer brew money tho.
it's so depressing that they just don't care.
Report flat16 December 18, 2023 10:46 AM GMT
The furlough scheme was another rank stupid set up ,that human nature would blatantly rape and abuse.
Millions of construction workers were essential workers and never missed a shift and along with hotels/pubs/small businesses were asked how much money they would like.......repeatedly.
Many took the maximimum ,knowing when the time to pay back they could simply "wind up" ,asset strip and start again with a clean slate.
A rushed ,ill conceived plan that we all are paying for now and for many years.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 10:50 AM GMT
amongst the highlights of the feeble defence these crooks put up which amounted to "we are sorry we got caught"
was " i lied, i regret it but i wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes???" extraordinary!!!

THE ORIGIN OF ‘TO PULL THE WOOL OVER SOMEONE’S EYES’?
Pascal Trégueretymology, public affairs, USA & Canadaanimals, human body, newspapers & magazines, phrases, USALeave a comment

Of American-English origin, the phrase to pull the wool over someone’s eyes means to deceive someone by telling untruths.


My other fav was her claiming she would only benefit if her old man died??????????? he must be a right tight wad then.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 10:55 AM GMT
I dare say it won't be long before the story of ms Mone and a certain ex Celtic footballer
come into view.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 10:55 AM GMT
Mone didn't overpay for ppe, she bought it cheap

There was no world shortage, there was a lack of ppe in uk
due to tory austerity

There was a scramble by tory donors to buy cheap
ppe from China and sell it to UK government at vasyly
inflated prices

A VIP fraud lane was set up... They denied it, but
had to reveal it when challenged in court.

Great to see the half wits that got nowt from
it defending them by not understanding what happened.

Useful idiots
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 10:58 AM GMT
i believe her & hubby are being investigated by the NCA but nothing will come of it 'cos they could take too many down with them.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 10:58 AM GMT
You are many others are confused between :-

- the legality or otherwise of the contract for the PPE purchased.

- MM lying about whether she would benefit from the contract - which she has admitted, and leaves her looking morally bereft, but I don't believe is a criminal offence.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:00 AM GMT
just pack it in man. she lied and lied then got caught and still lied then admitted it
when the evidence was overwhelming.
why are you defending this?
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:00 AM GMT
If nothing comes of it , it will be because the CPS doesn't believe there is enough evidence to justify charges.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:00 AM GMT
aye cos that is how the justice system works Plain
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:01 AM GMT
I'm not defending her lying - where have I done this ?
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:02 AM GMT
all the conspiracy theorists bang on about sh!t like this going on behind
the scenes all clandestine like but when it's stark & obvious, not interested.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:03 AM GMT
Aaah - so it all boils down to a corrupt judicial system as well .....Bless
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:03 AM GMT
well i think we know it is a **** game.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:04 AM GMT
why is r i g g e d not allowed???
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:05 AM GMT
Maybe we should let the Betfair Kangaroo Court decide ? ...that would be a better system.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:06 AM GMT
all angry enough about nippy nicola's camper van but 60 million in ppe, ahh no biggie
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:07 AM GMT
there is no court to convene, she has admitted it ffs!
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:07 AM GMT
Your anger should be directed at the people who bought it , not those who sold it - unless they acted fraudulently of course.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:09 AM GMT
i have the ability to direct my anger in several directions.
you seem to have picked a side and will defend whatever sh!t
they throw at us.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 11:14 AM GMT
So you've decided she is guilty of fraud before any legal process and, even if she is not found guilty of any offence , she is still guilty your eyes  because the court system is corrupt and biased towards Tory supporters.

Nice open minded approach.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:21 AM GMT
wow, no wonder they get away with this crap with @rse lickers like you around
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 11:51 AM GMT
Panic buying at inflated prices is not the same as premeditated fraud and corruption - a situation compounded by having to go on live tv every night to explain what you are doing about the lack of PPE.

That is the Tory line Johnny.

They never “meant” to do it, just tried to get as much PPE as quickly as possible and made a few commercial errors.

I don’t believe that line.

There is a long record of the Tories in the PPEgate scandal. They tried again and again to cover the VIP lane up, then tried to deny public access to the companies that benefitted. They fought every attempt made by the Good Law company to get to the truth.if they had nothing to hide, why did they go to extraordinary lengths to cover it all up?

There is a long long list of companies who fleeced us, all linked to the Tories like Michelle Mone, all making ludicrous profits at our expense.

Now if there had been a VIP lane that had not included so many Tory chums as beneficiaries, then I might agree that the Tories panicked because of their uselessness in keeping enough PPE in stock and bought at inflated prices. But the VIP lane contained loads of them, loads. Now it’s way beyond a coincidence. It’s more than incompetence and negligence. It’s corruption and sleaze.

There is the Moorov doctrine. If you get one or two things that stink the place out it can be a coincidence. When there are loads and there are billions of pounds of public money lining the pockets of loads and loads of Tory chums, you would have to be very very stupid, or naive in the extreme to think the pillaging of public money by the Tories to give loads of their chums nice fat bungs was anything other than the plan.
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 11:53 AM GMT
Labour’s plan to appoint a COVID PPE investigator is an excellent plan. Hopefully we’ll see some of the criminality laid out nice and simply before a court and see some Tories getting nice fat bungs from a judge.

Bungs of prison sentences rather than bungs of tax payers money.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 11:55 AM GMT
if you are going to make a "commercial error" then that is a good one
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 11:56 AM GMT
And just as a reminder
Read this

A list of the 47 companies referred to the government’s VIP fast-track lane for contracts to supply PPE has been revealed. These are five of the significant political figures whose referrals ended up with the companies winning contracts.

Michael Gove
According to a leaked document, Gove referred two firms that were listed in the so-called VIP lane during the pandemic. One was co-owned by a businessman, David Meller, who donated £3,250 to support Gove’s unsuccessful bid to become Conservative party leader in 2016. The company, Meller Designs, normally manufactured fashion and beauty products.

When Gove was education secretary, he appointed Meller to be a non-executive board member of the education department in 2013. Meller has been involved in running schools. A source close to Gove said his office merely passed on the offer from Meller Designs to supply PPE and he and other ministers were not involved in decisions about which companies should get contracts.

Gove’s office also referred a little-known Chinese firm, Liaoning Zhongqiao Overseas Exchange Co Ltd, which received a $15m contract for PPE.

A spokesperson Meller Designs said it was “extremely proud” of the role it played in supplying “more than 100million items of PPE”. A spokesperson for Gove denied that that the referral had involved any impropriety, saying he passed on offers to supply PPE.

Matt Hancock
The former health secretary made four referrals of companies that were fast-tracked and successfully won contracts. He has said he considered them credible offers. One of them was Excalibur Healthcare, which won £135.4m in contracts. He also referred Nine United, which won a £80.7m contract, and Monarch Acoustics, which won a £28.8m contract. He made a fourth referral of JD.com, China’s biggest retailer, chaired by the billionaire Richard Liu. This related to a free donation of PPE rather than a contract.

Hancock was approached for comment.

Andrew Feldman
The Tory peer and former chair of the party was drafted in by the Department of Health to consider offers of PPE supplies. He made three referrals that ended up in the fast-track: SG Recruitment, which won a £79.6m of contracts, Skinnydip Ltd, which won a £12.8m contract, and Maxima Markets, which won a £1.85m contract. He said he had no previous knowledge of the companies or commercial relationship with their owners, and his unpaid job was to pass credible offers on to officials. The companies were referred to him by third parties, and he had no knowledge they had ended up in the fast-track lane, Lord Feldman added.

Lord Agnew

Three firms were referred by Agnew, a relatively low-profile minister who holds posts in both the Cabinet Office and the Treasury. One was Uniserve, a British logistics company that was one of the largest recipients of pandemic deals handed out by the Department of Health and Social Care without an open tender. It received eight contracts valued at £876m. The others were Worldlink Resource, which received two contracts totalling £258m, and Euthenia Investments, which was given a contract worth £880,000. Agnew was first revealed to have made referrals in a legal challenge brought by the Good Law Project in April. The Cabinet Office said Agnew had been referring companies that approached his office. Uniserve said the Department of Health and Social Care had approached it directly and that it had no connections with Agnew.

Michelle Mone
The Conservative peer and lingerie businesswoman is listed as being the source of a referral of a company called PPE Medpro, which was awarded two contracts worth £202.8m.

Mone last year denied to the Guardian via her lawyers that she had “any role or function in PPE Medpro, nor in the process by which contracts were awarded to PPE Medpro”. A lawyer for Mone has confirmed that she stands by that statement.
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 11:59 AM GMT
It is really clear..

They were at it.

They have this dreadful sense of entitlement to our money and to rule at our expense.

The response to the Owen Patterson corruption shows you that. When he used his position as an MP to feather his nest by acting for a private company in breach of the rules, the initial reaction from the corrupt Tories was to try and change the rules.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 12:02 PM GMT
I'm all for an investigation to establish the facts , then reach a conclusion based on the facts and the law  - that seems a reasonable approach to me.

You can't  surely believe that reaching the conclusion without knowing the facts is the way to go ? - that's what you are doing here.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:02 PM GMT
rip off the public for millions = probably a misunderstanding
fiddle the lecky = string the cheating ****** up
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 12:05 PM GMT
Facts are so far she's a liar

Tories had VIP fraud lane

Mone benefitted from it

Tories like Johnny seeking to lessen damage
by keeping argument going so even more people find out
about it.
Report unitedbiscuits December 18, 2023 12:08 PM GMT
Excellent work by The Guardian leading up to yesterday's cringefest.

Toaday's edition features a brief résumé

Who is Michelle Mone and what PPE deals was she involved in?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/17/who-is-michelle-mone-and-what-ppe-deals-was-she-involved-in
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:09 PM GMT
Johnny The Guesser • December 18, 2023 12:02 PM GMT
I'm all for an investigation to establish the facts

the facts are already reasonably clear, like an admission they did it, the admission they lied, numerous times.
what proof is it that you are waiting for?
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 12:09 PM GMT
I'm all for an investigation to establish the facts , then reach a conclusion based on the facts and the law  - that seems a reasonable approach to me.

You can't  surely believe that reaching the conclusion without knowing the facts is the way to go ? - that's what you are doing here.


The facts are quite well known already.

Loads of Tory chums got very very rich at our expense and the Tories like Mone and others set about covering it up as much as they could.

These are facts.

Now you can believe that the facts don’t prove intent and it’s all a bit of a mystery why the Tories were in charge, they set up a VIP lane for PPE that enriched their chums at our expense. But I think there was no mystery. It was not an accident.

They were at it and will go to jail, if there is any justice.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:14 PM GMT
so called "white collar crime" never gets the punishment it deserves. the fact the phrase even exists
is proof positive. sneak in and nick 10k and you are doing a 5 stretch at best, embezzle 10k & you are
probably doing 18 months, if that.
Report lfc1971 December 18, 2023 12:21 PM GMT
Her company made money by supplying much needed ppe at a time of worry and concern at the height of the pandemic
Good , well done if they hadn’t done so then it would have been someone else perhaps someone not an English Tory but someone eg who votes labour / liberal etc or foreign … not good
Report impossible123 December 18, 2023 12:21 PM GMT
Ms Mone used her privileged position (as a Tory peer) to fast-track her application using the VIP lane to procure and supply PPE in a national crisis; she procured and supplied a very large quantity totalling £202m. She (or her newly set-up company profited £m) from it.

Ms Mone had no experience in procurement and supply of PPE; her partner is a businessman.

It's clear using Ms Mone's privileged position as a Tory peer to fast-track her application to VIP lane, and her partner's business experience/acumen this combination resulted in a profit of £202m for all concerned.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:24 PM GMT
if she didn't do anything wrong it is a head scrather as to why she then lied and lied and lied again about it.
now she says she regrets it but obviously she didn't do anything wrong.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 12:28 PM GMT
Odd too that she is being persued to
repay money fraudulently obtained.

Doubtless a sweetheart deal will be negotiated
before next election..
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 12:29 PM GMT
Lying about whether she benefited from the contracts and the contacts being fraudulently obtained are not the same thing , no matter how many times you repeat it.
Report lfc1971 December 18, 2023 12:30 PM GMT
She didn’t do anything wrong - she did good and possibly saved thousands of lives
( if you believe in the efficacy of ppe )

Which is more than her many detractors ( including on this forum )  have done
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 12:30 PM GMT
Old news.. But..

The company awarded large government personal protective equipment (PPE) contracts after an introduction by the Conservative peer Michelle Mone has declined to say how it would repay millions of pounds of public money for unused equipment if ordered to do so following a dispute with the government.

The Guardian reported this week that leaked documents indicated that Mone and her children secretly received £29m originating from the profits on these contracts after her support helped the company, PPE Medpro, secure a place in the “VIP lane” that the government used during the Covid pandemic to prioritise firms with political connections.

After Mone’s approach, PPE Medpro secured government contracts worth £203m to supply face masks and sterile surgical gowns.

The leaked documents, which were compiled by HSBC, show PPE Medpro paid at least £65m in profits to Mone’s husband, the Isle of Man-based financier Douglas Barrowman, just months after securing the contracts. Barrowman then made a series of distributions from those profits, including a secret £29m payment to a trust that benefits Mone and her children, the documents indicate.

However, the gowns that PPE Medpro supplied under the second contract, for which the government paid £122m, were rejected by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) after a technical inspection carried out by officials, and have never been used in the NHS.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:30 PM GMT
shaggin a celtic footballer incoming, they may supress that story but it's true and very shady. she's a stalker lady
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 12:31 PM GMT
Tories really think this is worth defending

Ha ha ha, no wonder they are flying in the polls
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:34 PM GMT
the party of family values dontcha know
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:35 PM GMT
the only question is which family..... the addams family?
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 12:35 PM GMT
We really need a system where one side appoint lawyers to present evidence that the contacts were fraudulently obtained  and the other side appoint lawyers to argue that no fraud was involved , and then we  get a panel to decide on the evidence presented.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:37 PM GMT
what, like an inquiry based thing. why didn't anyone else think of that?
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:38 PM GMT
maybe the police should investigate as well??????????
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 12:39 PM GMT
i'm away to watch the ponies. johnny, have a serious word with yourself.
Report impossible123 December 18, 2023 12:44 PM GMT
Key points:-
1) using her peerage position to get on vip lane despite without experience
2) deliberately denied participation;
3) made £m(s)
4) HSBS denied her account opening

The £64k questions:-
1) would they have been able to procure without Ms Mone's privileged position?
2) the repeated denials in the Press
1) Ans: Absolutely not! No experience or track record to be accorded preferential treatment
2) Ans: Bonkers! A behaviour only used by guilty ones (as defence) hoping the accusation will go away be forgotten with time.

If I'd the same privileged position as Ms Mone ie Tory peer I'd easily have done the same bringing in an accomplice. And, I'd not deny in the Press, if questioned. Simple!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 12:52 PM GMT
We really need a system where one side appoint lawyers to present evidence that the contacts were fraudulently obtained  and the other side appoint lawyers to argue that no fraud was involved , and then we  get a panel to decide on the evidence presented.

Great idea, and having to force government to realease
details of the cover up is a good start.

People are on it but lying cheating sleazy scum tories
are doing their best to avoid it

Time running out if they lose power and can't shread
the evidence and lose more whatsapps...
Report flat16 December 18, 2023 1:06 PM GMT
Sorry to disappoint you lefty conspiracy theorists but in the real world ,nobody keeps stock (storage charges and dead money) we all rely on real time deliveries ,inventory management systems ,so there was a worldwide shortage of ppe caused by worldwide epidemic.
Greedy people made a lot of money by purchasing a commodity in a rising market and selling to the highest bidder and bears do **** in the woods.
Yhtl hiding a few dozen pencils from his 7-y-o reading class in the school storeroom is not the same logistical problem as obtaining 700 million pieces of ppe that people are hoarding as fast as the world can make them.
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 1:09 PM GMT
what's the conspiracy?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 1:24 PM GMT
Flat iq16 still trying to prove his stupidity

Please please forum let me be as thick as Johnny and lfc, says flatty

Ha ha, flat iq16 doesn't even have to try, always guaranteed to be thick.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 2:18 PM GMT
Constantly replying "you're thick " to anybody that poses an alternative view to yourself doesn't strengthen your argument - on the contrary,  it makes it appear that you have nothing solid to offer up to support your rants.
Report Johnny The Guesser December 18, 2023 2:22 PM GMT
impossible 123 - those questions can only be answered by what we call due legal process.

For starters , when and how  did she first deny involvement and to whom ?  - Can you even answer that basic question ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 2:54 PM GMT
I don't constantly call folk thick, just the thick ones.

Takes a special kind of thick to battle to be thickest
defender of sleazy Mone.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 2:56 PM GMT
For starters , when and how  did she first deny involvement and to whom ?  - Can you even answer that basic question ?


An insider frog type question, ha ha ha

Does it really matter when she first lied and who she first lied to

She's admitted she's a liar....
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 2:58 PM GMT
Even the tories are ditching her and don't want her
in parliament...

Meanwhile the betfair thickies battle to defend her...
Report cryoftruth December 18, 2023 4:08 PM GMT
Yes they will never accept that the Tories are at it even when they are locked up.

It was like the Boris Johnson fan club.

He is clearly the biggest liar in history and they loved the idiot in spite of his disgusting lies and odious sleaze and corruption.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 4:24 PM GMT
“It’s not my yacht… it’s not my money,” Mone protested passionately to Kuenssberg.

It’s at the heart of their defence – murky semantics about whether money and items owned by Barrowman are in any sense also owned by his wife. We took the view that what was the property of a husband was also the property of his wife, and we believed any libel judge in the land would agree.

Since Mone, in her threats to us, had stated unequivocally that the Lady M – bought in the summer of 2021 after PPE Medpro won contracts for PPE to the tune of more than £200m – was “demonstrably” not her property, the New European insisted on documentation to prove this.

We made clear that until we had received that evidence, we would no longer engage with Mone’s complaint.

On September 27 we were emailed, by John Hardman of HC Legal Consulting, a letter from LM Yachts Limited, a company based in Douglas, Isle of Man. It stated that the Lady M was wholly owned by them and that “Baroness Mone has no proprietary interest whether direct or indirect in the said yacht or the Company.”

In his email, Hardman was at pains to point out “I am not in professional practice and therefore do not and will not provide Baroness Mone with legal representation.”

This was an important clarification, since John Gregory Hardman was struck off as a solicitor in January 2011 and prohibited by the Solicitors Regulation Authority from practising as a solicitor. When questioned about why he had been struck off, Hardman declined to tell us. He was more forthcoming, however, about the true nature of the ownership of the Lady M, confirming that LM Yachts is indeed connected to… you guessed it… Doug Barrowman.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 4:25 PM GMT
When PPE Medpro was incorporated hurriedly in May 2020, in time to construct an opportunistic supply chain to win enormous government contracts for PPE, its 100% owner was declared to Companies House as Anthony Page, an accountant (later dismissed for gross misconduct, which he contests) employed by Doug Barrowman. Page was also a director of LM Yachts Limited, owner of the Lady M. The New European is confident that LM Yachts’ ultimate beneficial owner is Barrowman.

Mone’s claim that she has no interest in a yacht bought by her husband and named the Lady M, a photograph of which she posted on Instagram with the caption “business is rewarding”, is in the eyes of any reasonable person absolutely absurd.

The claim they didn’t specifically use profits to buy the yacht and refit it to the tune of several millions is equally spurious. Arguing the toss over what pool of their money was used to buy a £5m yacht months after profiting to the tune of £60m from PPE Medpro is moot.

The truth is, Barrowman and Mone lied about their involvement in PPE Medpro. She continues to be evasive about the ownership of the yacht. After months of denying she had any ownership, “direct or indirect” of the yacht, her husband appeared on the PPE Medpro “documentary” admitting the boat was, after all, bought by him. They both dissemble about who benefits from the more than £60m they took in profit from the government while “doing their bit” for the country.

In the BBC interview, Barrowman admitted being the ultimate beneficial owner of PPE Medpro. That should have been disclosed in the company’s official filings. As lawyer Dan Neidle points out, knowingly failing to disclose the true owner of a company is a criminal offence under the Companies Act. Barrowman claimed his ownership was hidden to protect his privacy – there is no such exemption in the Companies Act.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 4:27 PM GMT
Mone now fingering Sunak over vaccines
and profits on twitter

The tory idiots won't know which way to turn...


Ha ha ha
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 4:29 PM GMT
Lady Michelle Mone on twitter



Does @RishiSunak stand to profit from the Moderna Covid vaccine during the pandemic?

I suggest that he might want to take that ‘incredibly seriously’ before pointing fingers to save his own skin!


And links to guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/rishi-sunak-refuses-to-say-if-he-will-profit-from-moderna-covid-vaccine

..



Popcorn...
Report northanlite December 18, 2023 4:40 PM GMT
^ exactly why i suggested earlier the police investigation may not be as thorough
as is warranted. she could take a few down with her.
Report Whisperingdeath December 18, 2023 4:42 PM GMT
Battles lines drawn

What is Rishi Sunak going on about she just posted on twatter!

Tories will try to make this go away but will they be drawn into a fight?

Did  Rishi Sunak profit from the Moderna Covid vaccine she asks….. if is going to get dirty now!
Report Dr Crippen December 18, 2023 4:43 PM GMT
The trouble we've got in this country with nothing working, and all the MPs and the plebs want to talk about is who said what. Or who made a profit out of that. While the country goes down the pan because the politicians are more interested in how they’re viewed by the media.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 18, 2023 6:24 PM GMT
Lord Bethell joins the debate on
twitter screenshot ting stuff from Mone...

But wait,...


Dear Lord Bethell,

According to you, you lost your phone "in early 2021" and, as a result, you were unable to access WhatsApp messages from 2020 or earlier.

The screenshot above looks very much like a WhatsApp message (in dark mode) and is dated "4 Oct 2020".

In which case, it looks like you do have access to your WhatsApp messages from 2020 and therefore there can indeed now be inquiry into "£85m of deals that are subject to a legal challenge."



More popcorn...
Report unitedbiscuits December 18, 2023 7:14 PM GMT
Did Michael Gove get a cut of that £60 million?
Report unitedbiscuits December 18, 2023 7:23 PM GMT
One of the reasons I love America:

The conviction was a victory for the U.S. Justice Department and Damian Williams, the top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, who made rooting out corruption in financial markets one of his top priorities.

"The crypto industry might be new, the players like Sam Bankman-Fried may be new, but this kind of fraud is as old as time and we have no patience for it," Williams told reporters outside the courthouse.


If this was the USA, Barrowman and Mone would be in prison tonight.
Report cryoftruth December 20, 2023 6:17 AM GMT
Yes and maybe after that car crash interview they will get jailed here.

Hope so.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 20, 2023 12:00 PM GMT
Her lawyer appears to be saying she lied to them

Chucked under the bus...
Report unitedbiscuits December 20, 2023 3:18 PM GMT
Never mind MM rejecting the Tory Party! The Conservatives could do their prospects for re-election a favour by stripping her of her ridiculous title. All politicians lie, but a Parliamentarian exposed for such obvious deceit should have no hand in shaping the laws of this country.

Hopefully, Rishi and the So Squalid Crew stick by her going into next year's GE.
Report Dr Crippen December 20, 2023 3:24 PM GMT
She told the press a little white lie - so what?

The press are the biggest bunch of liars next to politicians.

This forum is full of liars.

Since when was lying an offence in itself?
Report unitedbiscuits December 20, 2023 4:03 PM GMT
That is very gallant of you, Dr Crippen, but the fact is that if Michelle Mone hadn't had Michael Gove on speed-dial, the couple would not have been gifted £200 million in contracts. Even then, they could have got away with it except for compromising on the quality of their offering to maximise their profit. And I believe the leaked bank statements show that our money was moved into their trusts the same day Govt paid them.

So that is the position. Can we get our money back? Unlikely. Should she still be allowed to moist the benches of the House of Lords? I don't think so.
Report nineteen points December 20, 2023 4:05 PM GMT
gove will back her to the hilt
Report Whisperingdeath December 20, 2023 4:37 PM GMT
Crippen defending the party of Business and the smaller state

A fine advocate for squandering tax payer money!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 20, 2023 5:06 PM GMT
Michelle back on twitter


A senior civil servant offered to make the NCA investigation into us go away if we paid the government a sum of money.

We have a recording of this on tape.

Shall we name the senior civil servant involved? @DHSCgovuk






Tick tock...
Report nineteen points December 20, 2023 6:19 PM GMT
yes please
Report Whisperingdeath December 21, 2023 1:34 PM GMT
The NCA should investigate her claim or see if she is lying again
Report LoyalHoncho December 21, 2023 1:37 PM GMT
We know when this woman lies - her lips move.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 22, 2023 2:40 PM GMT
Michelle still singing

What was Lord Chadlington’s relationship with SG Recruitment and its holding company? They were awarded £50,000,000 in PPE contracts!
Report cryoftruth December 27, 2023 9:24 PM GMT
What is bothering Mone so much is that she has copped the blame for what was clearly general Tory sleaze greed and corruption.

It does not seem like the odious Mone is happy to take the blame alone and is going to implicate some nasty Hooray Henries with their revolting sense of entitlement to tax payers money by dint of having been to Eton, or Harrow.

Hope we get some of the evil greedy Tory sleaze merchants sent to jail.
Report leif June 12, 2024 8:18 PM BST
Man arrested in probe into Mone-linked PPE firm

Book 'em Dano - Mischief

A 46-year-old man has been arrested as part of the National Crime Agency (NCA) investigation into PPE Medpro, the company led by Doug Barrowman, husband of Baroness Michelle Mone.

The NCA opened an investigation into the company in May 2021 into suspected criminal offences committed in the procurement of PPE (personal protective equipment).

The company was awarded government contracts worth more than £200m after Baroness Mone recommended the firm to ministers during the Covid pandemic.

Baroness Mone, 52 and Mr Barrowman, 59 have denied wrongdoing.

In addition to the NCA investigation, the company is being sued by the Department for Health for £122m plus costs for "breach of contract and unjust enrichment".

The NCA said the suspect, from Barnet, north London, was held at his home on Wednesday morning.

The agency said he had been "arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit fraud and of attempting to pervert the course of justice".

Baroness Mone, born in Glasgow, founded the lingerie company Ultimo.

In 2015, the Conservative government appointed her to carry out a review into how best to encourage start-ups in areas of high unemployment.

She was given a peerage in the same year and sat in the House of Lords until 2022 when she opted to take a leave of absence from the parliamentary chamber.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nnq8q5depo
Report clouded leopard June 12, 2024 9:39 PM BST
Can't stand this greedy fker

Hope she hangs by the **** lips
Report clouded leopard June 12, 2024 9:41 PM BST
Last thing you do when caught with nose in trough is start grassing
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2024 8:23 AM BST
There was a pandemic and the country urgently
needed ppe ,, rules on tendering were relaxed -
as they should have been - and ppe was manufactured
which the government bought . Good work .
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