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Some reports of the evil of Hamas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67629181

Hamas fighters gang rape a woman and mutilate her, before the last of her attackers shot her in the head as he continued to rape her.

Hardly a surprise. Who would have thought that Palestinian males would have so little respect for Jewish females, wonder what their religious leaders would think of their behaviour?


Obviously best to refer to pro Hamas supporters as “peace marches “ .
Hopefully the IDF are successful in their heroic aim of removing these Hamas terrorists from power.
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Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 8:28 PM GMT
When they makes things up like in this link who knows what to believe.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-772894

BTW Mexico what site are you looking at to see such horrendous images?
Report PorcupineorPineapple December 5, 2023 8:29 PM GMT
How many Palestinian children is it ok to murder before we can say it's even stevens?
Report Mexico December 5, 2023 8:33 PM GMT
Steve

I posted a link to the story

It is a bbc report

Are you capable of reading and understanding it?
Report peckerdunne December 5, 2023 8:34 PM GMT
Straight to the insults, what a plum.

I shall not bother.
Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 8:55 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 8:33PM, Mexico wrote:


SteveI posted a link to the story It is a bbc report Are you capable of reading and understanding it?


No I am not Happy I don't pay the Tv licence I have absolutely zilch to do with anything the BBC is involved with.

Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 8:58 PM GMT
Who knows maybe the corpses were interfered with to create a story? Too good a chance of a PR coup?

A man like Isaac Herzog is capable of anything in my onion and I mean ANYTHING.
Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 9:00 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 8:10PM, Mexico wrote:


SontWTF are you on about regarding your comment about it is all about one woman?Are you able to read?Explain this part of the story.Multiple photographs from the sites after the attack show the bodies of women naked from the waist down, or with their underwear ripped to one side, legs splayed, with signs of trauma to their genitals and legs.Does that suggest it is about ONE woman?


Mexico • December 5, 2023 8:10 PM GMT

Multiple photographs from the sites after the attack show the bodies of women naked from the waist down, or with their underwear ripped to one side, legs splayed, with signs of trauma to their genitals and legs.


Which sites?

Report PorcupineorPineapple December 5, 2023 9:01 PM GMT
I'd say it's almost certainly true. I've been reading up on wars (American Civil War right now) and rather dreadfully raping and torturing women is a pretty common occurence.


So almost certainly true, but I'd still always doubt anything said by Israel. They just lie and lie and lie.
Report tobermory December 5, 2023 9:15 PM GMT
Which sites?

He means the actual sites of the atrocities, the places where they happened.

They are not posting this stuff on the internet.
Report tobermory December 5, 2023 9:16 PM GMT
I'd still always doubt anything said by Israel. They just lie and lie and lie.

But you think the 'Gaza Health Minsitry' (Hamas) are totally to be believed?
Report lfc1971 December 5, 2023 9:17 PM GMT
Well well we see the usual suspects here
Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 9:19 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 9:15PM, tobermory wrote:


Which sites? He means the actual sites of the atrocities, the places where they happened. They are not posting this stuff on the internet.


Oh yeah Laugh

Still need links though.

Report lfc1971 December 5, 2023 9:19 PM GMT
What the Hamas terrorists did was nothing short of satanic
Report tobermory December 5, 2023 9:20 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 8:19PM, lapsy pa wrote:


Why is this being reported now,2 months after the attack they bring out 'multiple photos' all of a sudden?May well have happened but i won't trust a single word from the Israeli mob.


Isn't it that these reports were made (not in such detail) at the time, but they are showing this stuff to jourbalists - like Owen Jones - because of the constant doubting and excusing by the likes of Jones, which, unbelievably, continued even after he'd seen all these images.

Report tobermory December 5, 2023 9:21 PM GMT
If she's dead who told that story, which has been denied

denied by Hamas Crazy
Report Steve Voltage December 5, 2023 9:23 PM GMT
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-772894

The more you read what he said the more you cry....

Israeli troops found an Arabic translation of Hitler’s Mein Kampf on the body of a terrorist in a children’s living room in a private home in northern Gaza turned into a military base, President Isaac Herzog revealed in an interview with the BBC Sunday.

Inside the well-thumbed copy of Mein Kampf were margin notes, highlighted sections, and annotated Post-it notes.

Relating to the interviewer’s questions about the loss of civilian life, including babies in incubators, Herzog said there was a lot of “spin” by Hamas

Herzog told the BBC “This is the book that led to the Holocaust and to World War Two.”

Report Mexico December 5, 2023 9:30 PM GMT
SV

Wtf has that got to do about the BBC report regarding evidence of Hamas terrorists murdering and raping Jewish women?
Report moisok December 5, 2023 10:32 PM GMT
Just remember this is a hamas controlled gaza - and one which the population voted for.
Report PorcupineorPineapple December 5, 2023 10:38 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 9:16PM, tobermory wrote:


I'd still always doubt anything said by Israel. They just lie and lie and lie. But you think the 'Gaza Health Minsitry' (Hamas) are totally to be believed?


Where did I say that?

Report casemoney December 5, 2023 10:48 PM GMT


Here is the main info for them  ,this is what they are Supporting ,But then many know that already
Report casemoney December 5, 2023 11:24 PM GMT
Hamas Spokesman said there was no Women attacked , Their religion does not allow for Treating women Badly ,I have heard some Bollix in my Lifetime , But that statement is high up the List
Report peckerdunne December 5, 2023 11:39 PM GMT
Steve, tell him to foook himself
Report Dotchinite December 6, 2023 12:08 AM GMT
Hamas supporters find these sort of stories an inconvenience and pretend they didnt happen.
Report Escapee December 6, 2023 12:11 AM GMT
Both sides have, and are currently perpetrating atrocities
It's undisputable, irrefutable. Only an imbecile can claim otherwise.
Report peckerdunne December 6, 2023 1:40 AM GMT
Israel are a lying propaganda machine they have been called out several times in liveTV.

I'm still waiting for the Al Shiffa HQ.

No sign of it, total bollox.

I'm still waiting to see the Food banks the tents, the built shelter in the safety zone of Muasa.

More lies on live TV, its a desert, a dump , there is nothing there.

If Israel opens its gob,it's to lie, they are brutal lying murdering g filth.
Report Steve Voltage December 6, 2023 10:52 AM GMT

Dec 5, 2023 -- 9:30PM, Mexico wrote:


SVWtf has that got to do about the BBC report regarding evidence of Hamas terrorists murdering and raping Jewish women?


I'm just trying to broaden your horizons as you seem not to be able to see the bigger picture. I think you seem to suffer from what is known as tunnel vision.

If they are capable of forming a story about a 'well-thumbed copy of Mein Kampf found in a Childs room' then I believe they are capable of any story. If it was suggested that some of the victims were interfered with to increase their propaganda it would come as no surprise to some.   

I've now watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview with Isaac Herzog and at the end even an experienced professional like Laura seems aghast and horrified by Mr Herzog. In-fact she seems to apologise for his behavior.

Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 10:56 AM GMT
You can pretend all you like that the barbaric atrocities committed by Hamas
didn’t happen .. That evil organisation is not going to be allowed to continue
Report Mexico December 6, 2023 10:57 AM GMT
SV

I posted a link to the story

You claim you are not intelligent enough to understand it …”which sites” - lol

Now you want to post some random garbage which has f&&all to do with the evil Hamas terrorist raping and murdering Jewish women.
Wonder what their religious leaders think of these actions?


Meanwhile thousands are allowed to clog up the streets showing their support for these rapists and murders.
Report Mexico December 6, 2023 11:01 AM GMT
SV

Did you post….
I have absolutely zilch to do with anything the BBC is involved with.


Which Laura Kurnssberg are you referring to?
Report Steve Voltage December 6, 2023 11:04 AM GMT

Dec 6, 2023 -- 11:01AM, Mexico wrote:


SVDid you post….I have absolutely zilch to do with anything the BBC is involved with.Which Laura Kurnssberg are you referring to?


It's on YouTube innit

Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:04 AM GMT
Don’t worry he’ll slither out of that
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:04 AM GMT
There we go Laugh
Report rothko December 6, 2023 11:31 AM GMT
Its depressing reading threads like this when apologists for each side are trying to blame the other on who has committed the worst atrocities

Both sides are spinning the news

Its a sh88te show with no apparent solution as there seems to be no political will from the major players (that doesnt include the UK btw)

Whats the point calling for a ceasefire which both sides at war don't want and has no chance of holding.
This would lead to many more civilian casualties in the long run
Report Mexico December 6, 2023 11:36 AM GMT
SV

You didn’t provide a link to the BBC interview on YouTube.

Perhaps you are getting your information from BBC after all.


So this Laura you refer to, is she the centre forward for Chelsea or is she a journalist/presenter working for BBC?
Report Steve Voltage December 6, 2023 11:37 AM GMT
Mexico do you believe that a 'well-thumbed copy of Mein Kampf found in a Childs room' ever existed?
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:38 AM GMT
It’s depressing reading posts like yours

Hamas committed those atrocities on Oct 7

Hamas are going to be removed from power
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:44 AM GMT
Now you spend your time trying to be an apologist
for the terrorist organisation that committed those savage acts -
It’s  a matter for you.. Israel are going to destroy that organisation
Report rothko December 6, 2023 11:45 AM GMT
LFC you are very niave and wet behind the ears if you think there is going to be a military solution to this
for every Hamas killed there are more being recruited and Iran will back these with arms and funding
The political wing of Hama is in Qatar ffs - are Israel going top take these out
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:49 AM GMT
One step at a time .. those responsible and the organisation responsible
for those satanic acts on Oct 7 will be brought to account
Report rothko December 6, 2023 11:54 AM GMT
when do you think step 1 (the elimination of Hamas) will be achieved LFC?
Report Mexico December 6, 2023 11:55 AM GMT
SV

You seem to support a racist terrorist group.

Do you hate all women or just  Jewish women?

WTF has a report about one book got to do with a bbc report about gang rapes & murder of Jewish women.


You claimed you have nothing to do with bbc then refer to an interview by one of their leading news presenters.
Why lie?

You have not presented one shred of evidence to suggest that the BBC story is inaccurate.
Why support evil racist terrorist.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:56 AM GMT
Well they’ve effectively been eliminated from
power in Gaza already .. so far so good
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 11:58 AM GMT
That’s objective 1 of the war accomplished
Report rothko December 6, 2023 11:59 AM GMT
Thats strange LFC as I thought the negotiation for the temporary ceasefire was done between the Israelis and Hamas
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:02 PM GMT
Those are terrorists holding Israelis hostage
Those terrorists are not running the country
They’re hiding in tunnels like rats
Report rothko December 6, 2023 12:03 PM GMT
but why would Israel negotiate with Hamas if they had no power - so stage 1 not completed

so whats stage 2 btw
Report peckerdunne December 6, 2023 12:04 PM GMT
You can't kill an ideology lfc, you need to cop on to that fact.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:06 PM GMT
Ah , I think you will find when criminal acts take place such as kidnapping
Negotiations often take place to try and ensure the safe release of the hostages - that’s
common practice ..
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:08 PM GMT
Of course you can kill an ideology - it was accomplished in Nazi Germany eg
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:10 PM GMT
And Islamic state is as evil and dangerous an ideology as that
Report rothko December 6, 2023 12:15 PM GMT
i think you will find LFC that Hamas is not holding all the hostages as there are other groups

Hamas was seen as holding enough power to both negotiate a ceasefire with Israel and keep the other groups in line
There is no military solution to this - even if Israel degrades Hamas to the point it cant operate what will it look like in a couple of years
Report saddo December 6, 2023 12:15 PM GMT
The Nazis did not total a quarter of the World population, and live in almost every country.
This ideology is huge.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:16 PM GMT
So it’s not a Jewish or Israeli problem

It’s a problem for the world
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:19 PM GMT
Rothko Some hostages have been brought safely back to Israel

Hamas have effectively been removed from power in Gaza - so far so good
Report saddo December 6, 2023 12:25 PM GMT
lfc1971 06 Dec 23 12:16 
So it’s not a Jewish or Israeli problem

It’s a problem for the world

...............

The fact that a vast majority of terrorist attacks are committed by practitioners
of this ideology would appear to suggest so. Could be an absolute coincidence of course.
Report rothko December 6, 2023 12:30 PM GMT
Anyway lets agree to disagree - any further negotiations will be done through Qatar where the political leadership of Hamas is based so they will retain some political control

Although Id still be interested to hear what stages 2 and 3 are ?
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:32 PM GMT
Yes let’s , Thanks for that little bit of information Rothko .. that’s Qatar , not Gaza
Report peckerdunne December 6, 2023 12:37 PM GMT
Netanyahu will be gone and still won't have the hostages back, alive or dead.

Not that he cares.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:38 PM GMT
He cares
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:40 PM GMT
As did Yoni Netanyahu
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 12:41 PM GMT
We could do with a few more like him in the west who cared
Report peckerdunne December 6, 2023 12:45 PM GMT
You've got the wrong medication again Lfc


They are murderers with no consciousness
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 1:18 PM GMT
upside down thinking from you pecker
No amount of medication can help you there
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 1:34 PM GMT
On a general point on the future of Gaza

No Islamic state or government is the ideal

The world has too many of these evil regimes as it is
Report PorcupineorPineapple December 6, 2023 1:57 PM GMT
A few nights ago, the school in Khirbet Zanuta, a small Palestinian village in the hills south of Hebron, was destroyed along with most of the houses, by a bulldozer.

Its tracks lay fresh and undisturbed in the sand when we arrived. The village was empty as its population of about 200 Palestinians left around a month ago, after sustained pressure and threats from armed and aggressive Jewish settlers who live in nearby outposts that are illegal under both Israeli and international law.

A twisted metal sign lies in the rubble of the school in Khirbet Zanuta. In bold black letters it reads "Humanitarian Support to Palestinians at risk of forcible transfer in the West Bank". The sign records the donors who gave money to the project. The European Union was the lead donor and, among a panel of European development agencies, is also the coat of arms of the British royal family over the words British Consulate-General Jerusalem.

Nadav Weiman came with the BBC to the village. He is a former Israeli special forces soldier who is now an activist with Breaking the Silence, a group of former combatants who campaign against Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories. Nadav believes that Jewish settlers, the most militant of whom are known by name to local Palestinians, were once again flouting the law with the police and army.

"They're demolishing Palestinian villages, beating up Palestinian farmers, stealing their olives, trying to open a third front, an eastern front against the Palestinians in the West Bank. Why? Because they want the land without Palestinians."

Two Israeli soldiers came to investigate what we were doing. One of them told an Israeli member of the BBC team that he was a traitor for visiting Palestinians. They filmed us but took much less interest in what had happened in Khirbet Zanuta, a few miles down the road.

When I asked the police if they were investigating the flattening of the school and the village, they emailed back that they were waiting for a complaint. In fact, lawyers for Zanuta's Palestinians had petitioned Israel's Supreme Court.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 2:08 PM GMT
Twenty years ago approx Israel and Jews
Withdrew from the Gaza Strip as part of a peace accord
It wasn’t safe for Jews to live there

A million and a half Palestinians live in Israel
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 2:10 PM GMT
No preaching to Israel about being safe and free from persecution
It won’t wash
Report peckerdunne December 6, 2023 3:08 PM GMT
Syria Egypt everyone hates the Israelis
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 4:45 PM GMT
Syria, Egypt .. my god we’ve heard it all now !

They would be better looking at their own countries
Report Dotchinite December 6, 2023 4:49 PM GMT
Indeed all the Arab countries hate the Israelis but then they hate everyone. They arent even that keen on each other.
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 4:50 PM GMT
And such a shame that Israel IDF turned back within 60 miles of Cairo
and at the Suez Canal in 73

Don’t push your luck again
Report lfc1971 December 6, 2023 4:56 PM GMT
Nasser alert the Egyptian Air Force

Head of Air Force .. ah , we have no planes sir - Israeli Air Force
have destroyed them before they took off , lol
Report cryoftruth December 6, 2023 5:19 PM GMT
And such a shame that Israel IDF turned back within 60 miles of Cairo
and at the Suez Canal in 73

Don’t push your luck again


Incredibly dense bilge even by the standards of the forums pet bigoted idiot.
Report lapsy pa December 7, 2023 5:49 PM GMT
Bit odd the Israelis won't give the proof of all these rapes despite being asked to.
Report Dotchinite December 7, 2023 6:10 PM GMT
What sort of evidence would you like. Victims on video talking about it perhaps?
Report saddo December 7, 2023 6:12 PM GMT
Proof of rapes!!! wtf?
Report lapsy pa December 7, 2023 6:12 PM GMT
No,not saying it didn't happen either.Could it possibly be exaggerated? of course, why can't it be independently verified?
Report saddo December 7, 2023 6:13 PM GMT
No,not saying it didn't happen either.


Oh, of course not.
Report lapsy pa December 7, 2023 6:15 PM GMT
Yes of course not, over 7000 children dead and not hamas either saddo, is it justified?
Report saddo December 7, 2023 6:20 PM GMT
Shame on you.
Report lapsy pa December 7, 2023 6:28 PM GMT
It isn't me asking for the evidence but the UN
Report Dotchinite December 7, 2023 6:29 PM GMT
I do think that was a misjudged post lapsy. Numbers may be exaggerated but that will be the same with claims on both sides of every conflict and nobody should be in any doubt about what sort of criminals Hamas are and what sort of atrocities they have committed.
Report lapsy pa December 7, 2023 6:37 PM GMT
Yes Dotchinite,fair enough, there are victims in this,agree re oct 7th.

Reuters did publish that article with the UN looking for evidence.
Report peckerdunne December 7, 2023 8:31 PM GMT
Funny that, when you go to court for a rape case of a war criminal it's standard procedure to

have doctors evidence, medical examinations and absolute clarity.

Especially skeptic when you are dealing with proven repeated liars and without due care the

murdering of thousands of kids, yes I'd ask the fooking questions, too bloody right.

No doubt some animal raped a woman, does not mean it policy.


Oh look at me , bollox
Report Whisperingdeath December 7, 2023 8:41 PM GMT
Yes of course not, over 7000 children dead and not hamas either saddo, is it justified?


No answer from the terrorist supporter and Islamaphobe!
Report irishone December 7, 2023 9:10 PM GMT
Criticisms of Israeli policies come from several groups: primarily from activists, within Israel and worldwide, the United Nations and other non-governmental organizations including European churches, and mass media. Media bias is often claimed by both sides of the debate. Since 2003, the UN has issued 232 resolutions with respect to Israel, 40% of all resolutions issued by the UN over the period and more than six times that of the second placed country, Sudan.[15]

Counter-criticisms include the assertion that some critics and their criticisms are aimed at delegitimizing Israel's right to exist,[16][17][18] which has led some to debate over the point at which criticism of Israel crosses the line into antisemitism. The term "new antisemitism" refers to criticisms deemed to have crossed this threshold.
Report dukeofpuke December 8, 2023 1:19 AM GMT
IDKAF
Report casemoney December 8, 2023 2:00 AM GMT
"No answer from the terrorist supporter"

Plenty of life long Terrorist supporters on here

Saddo is not one of them
Report dustybin December 8, 2023 6:43 AM GMT
Tbh the IDF really going to town now.
Stripping and immobilising males ready for interrogation and a spokesman outright declaring Gaza as Israel land.

Amazing how those supporting Palestinians seem to think they arn’t making their way through Hamas.
Where is this resistance?
They are getting battered. In for a penny I suppose.
Report rothko December 8, 2023 10:13 AM GMT
lapsy pa • December 7, 2023 6:15 PM GMT
Yes of course not, over 7000 children dead and not hamas either saddo, is it justified?


where did this figure come from and who verified it?
Report lapsy pa December 8, 2023 10:26 AM GMT
Google 'reuters,how many palestinians have died in Gaza,death toll explained' (7th dec)

Given 70% are women and children of the 17k+ and bodies still unaccounted for under the rubble it is in that ballpark.
Report rothko December 8, 2023 10:33 AM GMT
cheers lapsy
Report peckerdunne December 8, 2023 11:14 AM GMT
You only have to look at population demography and it's blatantly obvious that thousands of women and kids would be brutally murdered by these Nazi swine.
Report dustybin December 8, 2023 11:26 AM GMT
Makes me think of that Costa Concordia disaster where the Captain Calamity sank the cruise liner after showing off….then was one of the first to abandon ship leaving passengers to deal with the result.

Hamas were supposedly going to defeat the IDF
The captains arn’t even on this ship they ran off
The showing off has resulted in Gaza getting flattened.
Report Dr Crippen December 8, 2023 11:39 AM GMT
I don't pay the Tv licence I have absolutely zilch to do with anything the BBC is involved with.

Good man.
Report Dotchinite December 9, 2023 10:10 PM GMT
I see tonight people are giving evidence to show what Hamas did to Israelis women.  Appalling stuff as you would expect from such animals.
Report peckerdunne December 9, 2023 10:21 PM GMT
How so Dotch, I'm not watching.
Report Dotchinite December 9, 2023 10:23 PM GMT
Well witnesses including the organiser of that festival and survivors statements.
Report peckerdunne December 9, 2023 10:26 PM GMT
Well I won't insult the victims, but I want the killing of children to stop.
Report Dotchinite December 9, 2023 10:45 PM GMT
That should be everyones position. Its how we reach that place is where people differ. Hamas have to be dealt with and ive yet to see the UN or anyone else offer Israel an alternative to achieve that aim.
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