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Cider
21 Sep 23 16:00
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“Most of the conflict with the UK being outside of the [EU] arises inso far as the UK wants to diverge and do different things to the rest of our EU partners. Obviously the more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict. Actually different ways of solving problems become available… we don’t want to diverge, we don’t want to lower standards, we don’t want to rip up environmental standards…



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Report peckerdunne September 21, 2023 4:07 PM BST
Tick tock
Report lfc1971 September 21, 2023 4:25 PM BST
This is no surprise .. we always knew what
the slippery little toe rag was like
Report Foinavon September 21, 2023 4:43 PM BST
He is being teleguided by the Bliar monster, therein lies evil and real danger.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 21, 2023 4:56 PM BST
Why would the UK want to lower any standards be they environmental, safety or security?

We either want to be a great country with high standards or we want to join the USA in a race to the bottom.
Report Foinavon September 21, 2023 4:59 PM BST
No standards are being lowered apart from the level of virtue signalling. If 2035 is good enough for Germany it's good enough for us.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2023 5:00 PM BST
So Starmer was correct, cheers
Report Cider September 21, 2023 5:05 PM BST
It's just the nonsense bs we've all heard before.

We have control of our own standards, that suit this country. How weird would that be, setting rules bespoke for our own country Crazy
Report Foinavon September 21, 2023 5:06 PM BST
No he wasn't we do what makes sense for us, not take blanket rules. It makes sense to move the ICE ban out to 2035 so we should do it. Remoaner Nobby claiming that it's lowering standards, what does that say about his beloved Reich?
Report Cider September 21, 2023 5:08 PM BST
That PEP nonsense is all down to ridiculous EU rules. One of many many examples.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2023 5:14 PM BST
He said we didn't want to diverge

Your argument was we are not diverging from germany

But Starmer is wrong and you are right, lol
Report lfc1971 September 21, 2023 5:18 PM BST
Starmer doesn’t want to diverge and will not diverge
Even if it is harmful to Britain and the British people
Report Foinavon September 21, 2023 5:29 PM BST
My argument was that we are aligning with Germany on the sales of ICE cars, nothing more.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2023 6:19 PM BST
Ah so seven bins Sunak the unelected prime minister
acting as a fuhrer whilst parliament is closed
against the democratic wishes of the people
is what you are comparing to Starmer and the EU.

With you now, why not just say that
Report Cider September 21, 2023 6:46 PM BST
against the democratic wishes of the people


Did you actually type that out Laugh
Report Cider September 21, 2023 6:50 PM BST
Starmer was one of the chief parliamentary conspirators against implementing the outcome of the largest public vote in the country, ever.

Even 7 years later, the losers are still crying about it.

Deary me.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 21, 2023 8:44 PM BST
We'll be back in the EU sooner rather than later. Just inevitable.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 21, 2023 8:48 PM BST
The whole point of sovereignty is that we elect our own government. If Labour say they will seek closer relationships with the EU and the public decide that's what it wants then that's sovereignty in action.


Sovereignty doesn't only mean the ability to move away.
Report comingupthehill September 21, 2023 9:35 PM BST
If  26 countries can agree on certain rules,standards and quality.

Why does Britain believe it’s better to opt out of these rules,surely the only reason is to lower the standards
Report Shrewd_dude September 21, 2023 9:55 PM BST
Surely in a democratic country a government might want to improve standards as well.

I mean if the Greens came in would you expect them to be restricted by what the EU does?
Report Dr Crippen September 21, 2023 10:01 PM BST
the only reason is to lower the standards

What standards?
Report Dr Crippen September 21, 2023 10:05 PM BST
Poland and Hungary have refused to accept immigrants.

Are they lowering their standards by going against the rulings of the EU, and acting in the best interests of their people?
Report comingupthehill September 21, 2023 10:24 PM BST
the only reason is to lower the standards

What standards?



Every standard on goods and services.from grades of metal,to bendy bananas.
All those EU protocols,directives,were issued to protect the consumer,you.but we voted to opt out of that.

To compete,grow and develope business,lowering these basic standards is the only way to win extra trade.

Like Rees mogg said,the benefits will take 50 years to kick in.
Has the EU sticks to certain quality,we can become the primary of Europe.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2023 11:16 PM BST
Farrage stayed brexit has failed.

We could have scrapped hundreds of eu laws but did not
They remain laws of the UK.

You can still avoid uk by investing in Rees muggs
eu fund he set up as being based in uk was detrimental
to his wealth.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2023 11:17 PM BST
Farrage sayed
Report lfc1971 September 22, 2023 6:58 AM BST
Farage is saying if you are incapable of changing
Don’t expect things to improve
Report Facts September 22, 2023 9:07 AM BST
Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster.
Report nineteen points September 22, 2023 9:22 AM BST
i will second that!
Report Dr Crippen September 22, 2023 10:30 AM BST
Brexit a disaster, in what way?

Britain isn't doing any worse than many EU countries since we left.
Report lfc1971 September 22, 2023 7:43 PM BST
Dr c … ok I thought some university did the forensics
and dr crippen was innocent
Nevertheless he may have killed only one person , possibly none
Report SirNorbertClarke September 23, 2023 8:26 AM BST

Britain isn't doing any worse than many EU countries since we left.


We used to compete with France, post Brexit we compete with Italy.
Report Dr Crippen September 23, 2023 12:16 PM BST
Post Brexit, the UK competes with the rest of the world while the EU crumbles.

What is it with these lefties that they think Britain is incapable of governing itself?
When did it happen that lefties decided that the EU knows best?

We fought two world wars to save them from themselves.

We should should be running them, not them running us.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 23, 2023 12:40 PM BST
Fought fascists in last war now the gobby 5%
that make up uk fascists are lefties this leftie
that whilst waiting to be kicked back into the wilderness.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 10, 2023 8:11 PM BST
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