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18 Sep 23
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Keir Starmer has committed to pursuing a major rewrite of the Brexit deal with the EU if Labour is elected, citing his responsibility to his children and future generations.
As the Labour leader begins to unveil his blueprint for power if the party wins the next general election, he told the Financial Times he would seek a closer trading relationship with Brussels when the agreement negotiated by then-prime minister Boris Johnson comes up for review in 2025.
“Almost everyone recognises the deal Johnson struck is not a good deal – it’s far too thin,” Starmer said. “As we go into 2025 we will attempt to get a much better deal for the UK.”
Starmer made the comments in Canada at a conference of centre-left leaders, the Global Progress Action Summit, in Montreal, where he had a bilateral meeting with the country’s prime minister, Justin Trudeau. The trip is part of a wider tour of the international stage: Starmer visited The Hague last week and will arrive in Paris to see the French president, Emmanuel Macron, on Tuesday.
As the Labour leader begins to unveil his blueprint for power if the party wins the next general election, he told the Financial Times he would seek a closer trading relationship with Brussels when the agreement negotiated by then-prime minister Boris Johnson comes up for review in 2025.
“Almost everyone recognises the deal Johnson struck is not a good deal – it’s far too thin,” Starmer said. “As we go into 2025 we will attempt to get a much better deal for the UK.”
Starmer made the comments in Canada at a conference of centre-left leaders, the Global Progress Action Summit, in Montreal, where he had a bilateral meeting with the country’s prime minister, Justin Trudeau. The trip is part of a wider tour of the international stage: Starmer visited The Hague last week and will arrive in Paris to see the French president, Emmanuel Macron, on Tuesday.
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Let's face it, the deal Boris signed was a pile of sh!t so thums up to Keir Starmer
Don't get the kleenex out yet you two ,EU negotiations ,even from the simpering socialist kneeler ,usually take decades and amount to fa
You will both be dead before we rejoin.
You will both be dead before we rejoin.
Why would the UK rejoin the EU?
The UK just needs a balance agreement. Boris signed the first piece of paper put under his nose. What a wamker
The UK just needs a balance agreement. Boris signed the first piece of paper put under his nose. What a wamker
It was heading towards No Deal - don't forget that - Boris had to get the deal done. The UK needed to leave. We had sat in the departure lounge for years whilst Remainers did their utmost to stymie the whole process. They were quite prepared to risk No Deal against the non-existent chance of a second referendum or similar. The perpetual limbo was damaging the UK creating uncertainty and reducing investment.
The Remainers gave the EU the excuse they needed prolong the process - after all they didn't want us to leave.
If Remainers had accepted the democratic vote and we had presented a united front immediately after the referendum we would have certainly ended up with a better deal.
We can now tweak the deal, in fact that process has already started - the EU want to do business with us , and we want to do business with them. Win-win for everybody moving forward.
The Remainers gave the EU the excuse they needed prolong the process - after all they didn't want us to leave.
If Remainers had accepted the democratic vote and we had presented a united front immediately after the referendum we would have certainly ended up with a better deal.
We can now tweak the deal, in fact that process has already started - the EU want to do business with us , and we want to do business with them. Win-win for everybody moving forward.
the review is technical, it is about implementation of the current deal. and it is in 26 not 25.
uk/eu/tca
ARTICLE 776
Review
The Parties shall jointly review the implementation of this Agreement and supplementing
agreements and any matters related thereto five years after the entry into force of this Agreement
and every five years thereafter.
Maros Sefcovic (3 months ago) : "the review will be in 2026 and it will be on IMPLEMENTATION of the TCA (article 776 of the TCA). "this article (776) doesn't constitute a commitment to reopen the TCA or renegotiate supplementary agreements."
if he wants a renegotiation it will likely happen elsewhere.
he seems to be suffering from the same cakeism and complete lack of knowledge of what he is doing as the tories.
uk/eu/tca
ARTICLE 776
Review
The Parties shall jointly review the implementation of this Agreement and supplementing
agreements and any matters related thereto five years after the entry into force of this Agreement
and every five years thereafter.
Maros Sefcovic (3 months ago) : "the review will be in 2026 and it will be on IMPLEMENTATION of the TCA (article 776 of the TCA). "this article (776) doesn't constitute a commitment to reopen the TCA or renegotiate supplementary agreements."
if he wants a renegotiation it will likely happen elsewhere.
he seems to be suffering from the same cakeism and complete lack of knowledge of what he is doing as the tories.
First of all Labour will need to win the next GE. But if they did any new deal will mean giving up more concessions, and this where things are going to get tricky because it will be the Uk doing the asking and the EU doing the deciding.
It has started, we rejoined Horizon.
Doubtless erasmus is another simple next step.
Doubtless erasmus is another simple next step.
Regardless of your position on Brexit, and regardless of whether it is a Labour or Conservative (or some other mash-up) government, surely nobody is stupid enough to think that the EU will make any concessions? Unless the concessions require the UK to make enormous concessions of their own which would far outweigh any benefit we might get.
If anybody on here thinks that the EU would enter into honourable negotiations ....... (I can't be bothered to finish that sentence, because it ain't ever going to happen).
If anybody on here thinks that the EU would enter into honourable negotiations ....... (I can't be bothered to finish that sentence, because it ain't ever going to happen).
Yeah, cos Frost admitting they negotiated the Brexit deal with the explicit purpose of breaking it later makes us the honourable ones!
As before though, whatever agreement we come up with will suit the EU, cos they're the dominant partner in the negotiation. They've sat back and watched the tories eat themselves trying to deal with immigration so we're the ones desperate to try and fix it. They can just threaten to walk away and keep it as is.
That's simply the position we're now in.
As before though, whatever agreement we come up with will suit the EU, cos they're the dominant partner in the negotiation. They've sat back and watched the tories eat themselves trying to deal with immigration so we're the ones desperate to try and fix it. They can just threaten to walk away and keep it as is.
That's simply the position we're now in.
When the EU deals with their migrant troubles
let us know , Britain is in a very good place comparably
A few dinghies are not a problem for Britain
let us know , Britain is in a very good place comparably
A few dinghies are not a problem for Britain
"EU the dominant partner" - that's where your argument crumbles....Oh and the EU's problem with immigration dwarfs ours.
We are in a far stronger negotiating position now we have left - if we don't like what's on the table , we just shrug and walk away.
For heavens sake get real the EU is a total crumbling shambles
Walk away in a huff from a deal we tried to reach.
Lol
Lol
Look at it this way if Britain was doing badly
( which we aren’t despite the cry babies )
then the EU wouldn’t want us to rejoin to add to their very
considerable problems
And if we are doing well or even fairly well , which we are
Why should we then join just to help them out ?
Certainly not makes no sense
( which we aren’t despite the cry babies )
then the EU wouldn’t want us to rejoin to add to their very
considerable problems
And if we are doing well or even fairly well , which we are
Why should we then join just to help them out ?
Certainly not makes no sense
The EU just spent years negotiating the Brexit deal with U.K.
What exactly would the EU get out of spending a few more years renegotiating it just because U.K. has a change of government.
Kier even claims he will get a better deal for the U.K. what exactly is preventing EU telling him to jog on & don’t come back unless you want to rejoin?
If Kier wants to rejoin then stick that in his manifesto & the the country vote.
The lad wants to be in the EU but won’t even admit that to the voters.
What exactly would the EU get out of spending a few more years renegotiating it just because U.K. has a change of government.
Kier even claims he will get a better deal for the U.K. what exactly is preventing EU telling him to jog on & don’t come back unless you want to rejoin?
If Kier wants to rejoin then stick that in his manifesto & the the country vote.
The lad wants to be in the EU but won’t even admit that to the voters.
Looking at it from that perspective
there is no reason why we should or could join under any circumstances
Either they want our help , or they don’t want us to make things worse
It matters not from either perspective
there is no reason why we should or could join under any circumstances
Either they want our help , or they don’t want us to make things worse
It matters not from either perspective
The horizon programme lol
The best thing they should do is scrap that
and start building walls
The best thing they should do is scrap that
and start building walls
lfc has to be the most transparent troll on the internet.
Sep 18, 2023 -- 3:42PM, Mexico wrote:
The EU just spent years negotiating the Brexit deal with U.K.What exactly would the EU get out of spending a few more years renegotiating it just because U.K. has a change of government.Kier even claims he will get a better deal for the U.K. what exactly is preventing EU telling him to jog on & don’t come back unless you want to rejoin?If Kier wants to rejoin then stick that in his manifesto & the the country vote. The lad wants to be in the EU but won’t even admit that to the voters.
If the British government has ideas for a fine-tuned deal that is a win-win for both sides, the EU would not stand in the way of that. While some in this thread seem to think of the EU as this heinous monster, the EU as a trading partner is primarily someone you can do reliable business with.
You appear to have missed the Saffa Thread NOB , are those folks not Racist , I stuck it up for you to get your teeth into , Or is it only White Racists you are interested in ? Which of course would then Make you Racist 
crawling back on your hands and kneees with a begging bowl
MUG BRITAIN
MUG BRITAIN
Some of you have no idea. The leaving agreement isn't rewritten - it is tweaked in a way to benefit both the UK and the EU. There's no compulsion , if either party feels they aren't benefiting then they just say no and walk away.
It's not complicated.
It's not complicated.
get some of those paper cups and a blanket lads
then ones you see the beggars using on the streets over there in gb
then ones you see the beggars using on the streets over there in gb
SirNorbertClarke18 Sep 23 19:50Joined: 11 Aug 21 | Topic/replies: 7,014 | Blogger: SirNorbertClarke's blog
lfc has to be the most transparent troll on the internet.
he cant troll you ...hes blocked you
Honest !
lfc has to be the most transparent troll on the internet.
he cant troll you ...hes blocked you
Honest !
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