Tory London mayor candidate liked tweets praising Enoch Powell

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The leading Conservatives in the Shadow Cabinet were outraged by the speech. Iain Macleod, Edward Boyle, Quintin Hogg and Robert Carr all threatened to resign from the front bench unless Powell was sacked. Margaret Thatcher, who was then the Shadow Cabinet's Fuel and Power Spokesman, thought that some of Powell's speech was "strong meat",[16] and said to the Conservative leader, Edward Heath when he telephoned her to inform her Powell was to be sacked: "I really thought that it was better to let things cool down for the present rather than heighten the crisis". Heath sacked Powell from his post as Shadow Defence Secretary, telling him on the telephone that Sunday evening (it was the last conversation they would have). Heath said of the speech in public that it was "racialist in tone and liable to exacerbate racial tensions"

The Times declared it "an evil speech", stating "This is the first time that a serious British politician has appealed to racial hatred in this direct way in our postwar history."[19] The Times went on to record incidents of racial attacks in the immediate aftermath of Powell's speech. One such incident, reported under the headline "Coloured family attacked", took place on 30 April 1968 in Wolverhampton itself: it involved a slashing incident with 14 white youths chanting "Powell" and "Why don't you go back to your own country?" at patrons of a West Indian christening party. One of the West Indian victims, Wade Crooks of Lower Villiers Street, was the child's grandfather. He had to have eight stitches over his left eye. He was reported as saying, "I have been here since 1955 and nothing like this has happened before. I am shattered.

Dr Crippen

Powell was a great man.


Care to explain what made Powell a great man?

Powell wasn't a racist, he used the speech to
try to engineer himself to be leader of the tories.

It failed as heath acted, Thatcher seemed happy
enough with it and became leader.

Powell cleared her path

https://twitter.com/i/status/1702795484895515042

AI ?

Care to explain what made Powell a great man?

I'd better answer the pigs.

Read his entry in Wkipedia. Here's a tribute from Tony Blair.

Other politicians, including his rivals, also paid tribute to him, including former Labour party leader Tony Blair who said, "However controversial his views, he was one of the great figures of 20th-century British politics, gifted with a brilliant mind. However much we disagreed with many of his views, there was no doubting the strength of his convictions or their sincerity, or his tenacity in pursuing them, regardless of his own political self-interest."[258] He was survived by his widow and two daughters.

So if the ignoramuses and drunks on here call people racists for respecting Powell, then surely in their view Blair is a racist?
And all those who ever voted for Blair are racists?

Including themselves.

No wonder crippens loved Bliar

LOL Now we quote Tony Blair, the man who led the UK into a disastrous war in Iraq, as a character reference for Powell

Too ridiculous for words.

You're behaving like a cornered rat, Noblet.

Jeremy Corbyn had plenty of form in that regard.

Yet you voted for him.

That's two racists (by your reckoning) that you've voted for.

What does that make you, (by your reckoning?)

Dr C

Jeremy Corbyn had plenty of form in that regard.

Yet you voted for him.


I haven't voted since 1983 so you're wrong yet again.

BTW hard luck trying to get me banned. Better luck next time.

Oh and should you ever succeed in getting me banned don't imagine for one second I will be bothered.

Oh and should you ever succeed in getting me banned don't imagine for one second I will be bothered.

So if the ignoramuses and drunks

Crippen, you seem to admire and revere this 'Enoch'

Have a google at 'villagemagazine.ie/the mentor of jeffery donaldson was a racist and a paedophile'

You better as well Lfc.

Codswallop because you have been caught yet again?

Don't take my word for it, take the Bishops word,look up 'Operation Fernbridge' .

pa i really dont understand why you engage with him or the even more tedious edy. just ignore them

How about you mind your own business
that would be a good start in your case ..

Lapsy the bishop , really ?

Enoch Powell was someone with many ememies ..
If he had been guilty of even the slightest misdemeanour then it
would have been sure it would have been made known and prosecuted

Now enemies .. is it a Republican , nationalist rag ?

It was also covered in part in 2015 in the daily mail,independent,telegraph.

and you are doffing your cap to the likes of that?

That’s a lot to read … what was covered -precisely ?
paraphrase it if you would ..

If two of your heros are Enoch Powell and Adolf Hitler then I'm sorry but you're a racist. End of.

No need for me to do that Lfc,it is up to yourself.

Just trying to give you a very probably truer picture of the man rather than your own misconception.

That would be fine and good if that was what you were doing but you’re not giving a truer picture
of the man .. you are giving a false picture ..

It was also covered in part in 2015 in the daily mail,independent,telegraph.

and you are doffing your cap to the likes of that?

In 2015 most UK media were taken in by the 'nick' nonsense, Dolphin Square, Elm Guest House etc

Crippen, you seem to admire and revere this 'Enoch'

lapsy pa, read Blair's tribute.

If you hate people who recognise the brilliance of Powell, then why did you vote for Blair?

@ Tobermory, call it for what it was 'alleged', Westminster paedo ring, satanic child abuse, Kincora house, up to you to make what you want of it.

The Village.ie named names re Powell.

I didn't vote for Blair though what he did for peace in Ireland was mighty.

Sorry to piss on your Powell parade.

I didn't vote for Blair though what he did for peace in Ireland was mighty.


Oh! There you go.

Where am i going?

You getting a clearer picture of your idol Enoch yet?

Sep 17, 2023 -- 10:52AM, Dr Crippen wrote:

Crippen, you seem to admire and revere this 'Enoch'lapsy pa, read Blair's tribute.If you hate people who recognise the brilliance of Powell, then why did you vote for Blair?

Blair came to power before Powell died.

I'd say ya wrote a load of letters to 'jim will fix it' Lfc.

LFC got fecked twice
he wrote to jim'll fix it to go
on ITS A KNOCKOUT with Stewart Hall

^ qed -There you go that’s why they can’t be trusted -

he had swimming lessons off rolf harris

It’s a mentality that will throw about any vile accusation
with zero basis in rationality or reality it’s a form of madness
driven by bigotry and anger

Doff yer cap to caught you again tomorrow, look up the testimony at Kincora,listen to the Bishops, Mountbatten was there too,another one of your icons.

I won’t be reading anything you post in the future lapsy
or irishone or nineteen … so the conversations over , cheers

Run in shame that you looked up to Enoch Lfc,i don't blame you.

Lenny Fairclough the swimming tutor
rolf more an arty type

The 'case' that Enoch was a paedo seems to rely entirely upon allegations from Richard Kerr, who appears to have zero credibility.

Kerr tried to get onboard the Dolphin Square/Elm Street Guest House bandwagon in 2015.

Obviously making claims about those places shows him to be a liar and a fantasist, so why should he be believed about anything else?

As for a bishop saying Enoch was involved in 'satanic abuse', I can't believe anyone takes such things seriously, after multiple cases all shown to be nonsense.

It’s a mentality that will throw about any vile accusation
with zero basis in rationality or reality it’s a form of madness
driven by bigotry and anger

lfc’s picture perfect self portrait.

Spot on

cot au contraire you will find my aim is rational and true and very very accurate

unlike your mad bigoted and hate filled posts , cheers

Your support for Hitler and Putin is fully recorded and is neither rational or true. Nor accurate.

Ie you are as ever talking complete drivel.

Enoch Powell Knew , he predicted the mass  Migrant Problem , Did he mention the Whole of Europe I wonder ?

Look at the state of that Italian Island,  incredible ,The folks who Live there must be Terrified   


these swarms have nothing to do with Refugee Status ,NOTHING

Blair

I didn't vote for Blair though what he did for peace in Ireland was mighty.

A foookin war Criminal  ,has more blood on his hands than any European  Since Hitler

Enoch was a pedo  , PMSFL u cannot make you Lefties up

Mind you Pa and the Lads would know one, their so called Church was infested by them ..WORLDWIDE , Still is ...

Read up on it CM, you heard of Kincora house?

That first came to light as army intelligence officer Colin Wallace leaked it to the press,he was forced out of the army and wrongly imprisoned for manslaughter.

Have a read of Joachim Hagopians ,

'Satan,sodomy and the deep state'.chapter 29,Northern Irelands Kincora scandal, you won't be 'pissin yourself laughin'

Ive read up on enough on Your Mob PA ,which is proven World wide ,can't get away from it  Tbh  , Not one ounce of Proof Powell was a Pedo

Glasshouses come to mind ..

What has gone on over there and in the States and Canada ,Never mind the rest of the World,  Beggars belief ,Quicker all these Filthy religions are

Finished off the Better ,Generation or Two most will be Gone , the world will be a far better place for it IMVHO

case anyone who believes Powell was involved in
anything like that is either a fool or deliberately wanting to believe it - for the obvious politics reasons

Newcastle Milan now … enjoy

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/lyra-mckee-and-her-investigation-into-the-mysterious-murder-of-a-unionist-mp-in-1981-1.3975444

Worth a Read , Where Powell was highly suspicious of the IRA being said to have killed The  Unionist MP Bradford ,who had concerns about Kincora ,Strange that Mckee herself

was Randomly Shot ,While also investigating it

If Enoch was involved why would he say he found the MPs death suspicious ?

A few Newcastle shirts and one Milan shirt
in my local . Looking forward to this something different ..

Well aware of the Catholic church and other churches etc CM, this is not a thread for that.

Have a read of 'villagemagazine.ie/suffer little children'

Do that and come back to me then.

Newcastle letting Milan dominate ,
could be 2 down

case is very shrewd .. unionists would never in any universe be part of this and Bradford
was saintlike an almost perfect human being If such a thing exists .. murdered by the IRA

Prominent orange order member william mc grath was the 'housemaster' of Kincora involved in the abuse of at least 29.

Let me say this again please - many will not know this
Roy Bradford was an almost perfect human being , if such a thing exists ..  fact

Mc grath was known as 'the beast'.

'villagemagazine.ie/suffer little children'

Have a read of 'villagemagazine.ie/suffer little children'

Do that and come back to me then.

If you don't bother with the link....

The 'evidence' against Powell consists of the testimony of a man named Richard Kerr, who claims he was abused by Powell, but also by the non existent Elm Guest House paedos.

So how credible is he.

The other thing was an anonymous person naming Powell as a participant in 'satanic ritual abuse', so clearly we are in loony territory with this stuff.

many of those that are ready to convict powell on hearsay are equally able to acquit casement, as it suits

im sure of neither but others are certain when it conforms to their narrative

As you are seemingly struggling to be able to find it Tobermory,

https://villagemagazine.ie/suffer-little-children/

I do hope you have read it Casemoney.

It is a credible publication.

My narrative Mitolo? Not much, i saw a few heads waxing lyrical re Powell earlier in the thread and 1 same lad also threatening bans.I sincerely believe there is no smoke without fire and while i tend to agree he wasn't wrong re immigration albeit almost 60 years ago he is now being used as a figurehead with many who backed the torys but after the pish poor job they are doing are looking elsewhere.

Well worth a read and all can draw their own conclusions.

Was the Kincora Boys Home in West Yorkshire?

No mention from the lefties about that fat odious slob Cyril Smith.

lefties

More kwality debate from the imbecile end of things!

Enoch and climate change denial

The tory policy to keed the nutter vote.

Not a word of thanks from all those who were looking up to Enoch and possibly given the truth about him.


I am disappointed,but tbf you lot aren't the brightest.

One of Tories’ biggest ever donors profited from £135m of NHS contracts

Frank Hester, who gave Rishi Sunak’s party £5m this summer, is thought to have made
huge sums from DHSC deals

13 years, ah, we made huge profits for ourselves and our donors
all from taxpayer funding.

Said Richy

And certain people moan when we use “sleaze and corruption” as adjectives before the word “Tories”.

Now just in case anyone can doubt it.

The current Tory Party is riddled with sleaze and corruption.

The greed they demonstrate is beyond evil and cynical.

The disgusting and revoltingly wicked sleazy and corrupt Tories should be jailed. But getting them kicked out of power would certainly be a start.

not really pa

i was trying to highlight the readiness of folk to believe what confirms their prejudice when it comes to their enemies but sceptical when applied to those they approve of. eg, many on the left revered castro, despite him being the most long-lived dictator of them all. casement was another example that entered my tiny brain after 1m bottles. amazed i typed anything as i have little memory of it

im no eunech fan but hes a hate figure and everything bad, with even flimsy evidence is taken on board without question

as usual crybaby is full of condemnation. tories are wicked. thats a lorra people in the uk. i know many and they are simply not. they will be kicked out and they deserve no better but this infantile

I know nothing about Casement except he got caught with a load of guns in the Aud of a beach in Kerry. To tell the truth i looked at him as a heroic figure,feck, i may be wrong there?

Cryoftruth has been consistent for the last few years,he is right in that the torys have done untold damage to the UK.

My point is some of the posters earlier in the thread were 'staunch' conservatives,they are starting to realise the damage,won't admit it but changing tack and want 'change' in the guise of something Enochy,well that piece in the village publication imo says enough,says a lot about the North of Ireland at the time as well, it was sickening.

Nothing wrong with wanting away from the tories and Westminster.

You might ask yourself why.

Nothing wrong with wanting that just don’t pretend he’s been consistent for the last few years when he’s bigging up sleaze, lies and corruption and alleged criminally from another party.

he might have been pa, i suspect you were fed the hero narrative and accepted it because he worked for the right side but when he was suspected of being a padeo it was denounced by those who wouldnt have it, though the evidence is persuasive. not that im bothered by that and its not proven-its just the reluctance of folk to realise they were wrong and its a british plot to blacken his name and thier hero ight have feet of clay-thats all. its dishonest

and there were no shortage of villains of both sides, btw.

crybaby is forver denouncing people as evil and rotten and corrupt but when challenged for evidence he doesnt see the need to provide any-denunciation is enough for him. eg he says im a racist for asking why a celebration of caribbean culture always turns to violence. thats not racist-its entirely a legitimate question but if you even mention it you are a 'hitlerite' as he suggested. as i said earlier, its infantile

the tories are a disaster no doubt but you dont have to be alan einstein to work that out

the north of ireland is a genteel description. the occupied zone is one my mate uses, and hes a serious student of republican history. it was him that made me think of casesment because he had to have a re-think and because he is an honest witness, changed his mind, and a good mind he has, believe me. hes a non-academic expert on irish history, despite being born and bred in the uk.

but thats not uncommon on murkeyside

@ Shrewd Duke,an element of that is fair,if the SNP are the only party that can bring independence and you want that,you are with them even though your sole wish is independence.

Also very fair Mitolo, it is 'sides', one thinks they are right and so does the other, it would take some man to convince me re the North and the undeniable right it is Ireland,accept it was 'dirty' by both.

the whole business is a tragedy for all and its an idictment of us all we let it get to how bad it was-now weve had a few years of them not killing each other it s incredible that we let it get so bad

just think about what went on for 30 years-its indefensible, and im not taking 'sides' either

we became used to it but now youd rear up if it started again

you wnot be surprised my mate reveres parnell and to a lesser extent, gladstone

what an opportunity missed. but its easy to be clear after the event. those were difficult and turbulent times

despite that i dont things have turned out so bad. the cross-over is seamless nowadays, despite brexit but it makes me laff that the only time i witnessed anti-british racism(kerry) it was directed at my mate the revolutionary who luvs ernie o'malley and was called an 'english c**t' because he is well-spoken i wasnt cos im not-he went bananas and i had to restrain him

funny ol world

Tweets liking Powell .. ohhhhh
It makes my mind think how glorious  luring me on in my mind
Higher and higher

As you are seemingly struggling to be able to find it Tobermory,

I already posted twice.

I read the Powell article before posting and it is accusations by a man named Richard Kerr, who has zero credibility.

The other accuser was an anonymous person who had a tale about 'satanic rituals'

What exactly did I miss, as the links you post are just that article.

Zero credibility? you saying he wasn't in Kincora and wasn't abused?

The whistle blower Colin got thrown out of the army and falsely imprisioned on a trumped up manslaughter charge.Why? zero credibility?

What has Kincora got to do with Powell?

Kerr says he was abused in the Elm Guest House too.... Obviously he wasn't as it was all a fairytale.

So why should he be believed about anything else

Why shouldn't he?

To quote the article;

Kerr recalls that 'David' and his accomplice came to take him away to be abused by Powell on a Summers day in 73/74.

Do you want to read that chapter again? This is when Kerr was in Kincora, Powell was a UUP member of parliament

Why shouldn't he?

Beacuse he lied that he was abused at Elm Guest House.

He made that up. What sort of person does that. A liar and a fantasist.

Probably thought he as on safe ground in 2015, as much of the media was believing in the fairytale.

I'm not understanding what Powell has to do with Kincora (outside of what the liar had to say)

Other than that the paedo who ran the place was a Unioninst, and therefore every prominent Unionist must have been involved somehow.

Did he lie? He was abused at Williamson house a near certainty.

You are skirting Colin Wallace,why? he was strung up by the estbalishment? have we ever seen that before?

Seems according to that article Paisley Senior was aware of Kincora.

Well he certainly lied about the Elm Guest House as the whole thing was a fantasy.

I am looking up Wallace, seems another dodgy character.

Found an - Irish - newspaper article from 1990 describing him as 'a Walter Mitty'.

If so he is well in keeping with the people that site uses as sources

A walter mitty that blew the whistle,is that the telegraph (Belfast)?

How in the name of God was he forced out of the army and on top of that imprisioned for years on a trumped up manslaughter charge?

MI5? ah surely never.

You still looking it up? hard to do as it is a taboo UK subject, go the author i gave earlier in the thread

Was it a trumped up charge though?

He had a motive - affair with the victim's wife - and a meeting arranged with him on the night he was killed.

Seems he won his appeal on a technicality........

The doctor testified at the trial that Lewis (the victim) had his skull fractured by a 'karate blow'.

And this may have caused the jury more likely to think Wallace was the culprit as they would associate such fighting skills with an elite military man (which Wallace falsely purported to be).

It turned out that there was no such 'karate blow' that could have fractured Lewis's skull in that way.

But his skull was fractured nonetheless, and Wallace was the prime and only suspect.

The Irish article I found was The Irish Independent, from 1990

But he was described as a Walter Mitty in various articles.

In any case, Wallace doesn't appear to have made allegations against Powell?

No,he made allegations against Kincora house.

Anyway Tobermory you believe one thing,i am on the other side,a nasty and taboo subject which i am personally uneasy with,village magazine is creditable,Vincent Browne started it off afaik,no smoke without fire but respect your argument

Fair enough Lapsy.

The Kincora case was despicable, but IMO the author overreaches with very tenuous allegations from dodgy sources to ismear well known people who were not involved.

Kincora was more than that Tobermory, another piece which gives an insight of what went on(thanks, Shiny new shoes)

https://villagemagazine.ie/her-majestys-hatchetman-the-murder-of-pat-finucane/

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1708532931076006363?s=19

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Freudian slip...

September 26, 2023 5:56
Oh what a tangled web they weave/When first they practice to deceive
I see you like the village
villagemagazine.ie/trumps-mentor-and-the-abuse-of-a-teenage-boy-from-kincora-by-joseph-de-burca/
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Tip of the iceberg

Shocked, saddened bug nog surprised. I think  there are links to MP’s, Lords, Judges, military tol brass and high ranking Police Officers. I believe things went on in Dolphin House and MI5 covered it up. The people who protected these beasts are as bad as the perps.

I also think there was some strange going’s on between Acosta and Epstein that should be investigated

Shocked, saddened bug nog surprised. I think  there are links to MP’s, Lords, Judges, military tol brass and high ranking Police Officers. I believe things went on in Dolphin House and MI5 covered it up.

You still believe in 'Nick'

No inquiry(proper one unlike the usual sham ones) into Kincora nor Pat Finucane for that matter,a big rush to get changes in the legacy bill.

Any connection between the 3 above?

Very possible there is,the British Gov 'might' be even implicated, won't that look bad?

British Government Collusion has nothing to do with Nick.

What happens to the files on Leon Britten?