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The net zero energy bill that is heading to the house of lords, will have the ability to fine of £15,000 or prison you if your does not comply with the new energy efficient rules ( no one knows what they as yet). Basically this will be mechanism that future governments can set standards without the normal consent or legal process (they can change the goal posts at any time). Most homes built over 20 years ago are going to expensive if not impossible to improve their energy rating. Meaning that the owner will receive a fine/prison but will still be required to meet the new standards. The main problem comes when your local authority decides they want either your home or the land it is built on, they already have the law on their side with a compulsory purchase order and if you owe as little as £1000 and can't pay they can force you to sell your house.
https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/09/03/uk-homeowners-face-jail-or-15k-fine-in-energy-bill-crackdown/
https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/09/03/uk-homeowners-face-jail-or-15k-fine-in-energy-bill-crackdown/
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I heard that there has been more parliamentary chicanery with this bill. It was apparently put forward from the HoL, so there is limited opportunity for the HoC to amend it now. Not that they want to amend it much, there is practically zero opposition.
Meanwhile, over in ' 2 coal plants' a week China...
they have already took your car ( most people just haven't realized it yet), from next year 22% of all cars sold by any manufacturer will have to be EVs, a fine of £15,00 for cars and £18,000 for every van they sell that goes over the limit. The percentage is set to rise each year until 2030
VW stopped EV production for the summer, can't shift em.
Sep 14, 2023 -- 1:58PM, saddo wrote:
VW stopped EV production for the summer, can't shift em.
Source?
Has VW stopped making electric vehicles?
Volkswagen is cutting shifts and production on its electric vehicle lines at its Emden plant in Germany despite surging June EV sales figures in Europe. The company says the production cuts are due to “strong customer reluctance” to buy their EVs.
Volkswagen is cutting shifts and production on its electric vehicle lines at its Emden plant in Germany despite surging June EV sales figures in Europe. The company says the production cuts are due to “strong customer reluctance” to buy their EVs.
Thanks!
And you don't really need to copy and paste text. I can work with links.
And you don't really need to copy and paste text. I can work with links.
Well, what you claimed had happened, didn't actually happen, so wasn't there to be found.
How do you expect me to magically make sources for your fabrications appear on the internet for me to find them?
https://www.thedailyblag.co.uk/motors/germanev/2543685/tell-edy-you-can-make...
I guess I could have actually asked ChatGPT to generate the content for me, but to then also make a believable website out of it sounds like....work and costs and me making up news items just so I can find ones that fit fabrications isn't really the goal to begin with.
ChatGPT's fake news item:
BREAKING NEWS: Volkswagen Faces Setback in Electric Vehicle Production
Berlin, September 15, 2023 - In an unexpected turn of events, Volkswagen (VW), one of the leading automotive giants, has reportedly ceased production of its electric vehicles (EVs) due to unforeseen challenges in market adoption.
Sources within the company suggest that despite considerable investments in research and development, as well as extensive marketing efforts, VW has been struggling to achieve the desired sales figures for its EV lineup. This decision marks a significant setback for the company's ambitious plans to transition towards a more sustainable future.
Industry experts speculate that a combination of factors may have contributed to this unexpected turn of events. The global economic downturn and increasing supply chain disruptions have presented considerable hurdles for VW, as well as other automakers, in their pursuit of electric mobility.
Additionally, intense competition in the electric vehicle market, with new players entering the arena, has put pressure on established manufacturers like VW. The company's models faced stiff competition from other well-received EVs, which may have impacted their market penetration.
VW's spokesperson, Mark Thompson, stated, "We remain committed to sustainable mobility, and this decision is a temporary measure to reassess our strategy and adapt to the rapidly evolving market dynamics. We are confident that with the right adjustments, we will continue to play a pivotal role in the electric vehicle revolution."
This development comes at a critical juncture when governments around the world are implementing stringent emission regulations and offering incentives to accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles. Many had looked to companies like VW to lead the charge in this transition.
The temporary halt in production has led to discussions among industry analysts about the broader implications for the electric vehicle market. Some are questioning whether this could signal a broader trend or is merely a unique challenge faced by VW.
VW's stock prices have experienced a noticeable dip in the wake of this announcement. Investors are keenly monitoring the situation as the company's leadership works on a revised strategy to re-enter the electric vehicle market with renewed vigor.
As the automotive industry grapples with these unexpected developments, one thing remains certain: the transition towards electric mobility remains a critical goal for a sustainable future, and companies like Volkswagen will play a vital role in shaping this landscape, even if they encounter temporary setbacks along the way.
ChatGPT's fake news item:
BREAKING NEWS: Volkswagen Faces Setback in Electric Vehicle Production
Berlin, September 15, 2023 - In an unexpected turn of events, Volkswagen (VW), one of the leading automotive giants, has reportedly ceased production of its electric vehicles (EVs) due to unforeseen challenges in market adoption.
Sources within the company suggest that despite considerable investments in research and development, as well as extensive marketing efforts, VW has been struggling to achieve the desired sales figures for its EV lineup. This decision marks a significant setback for the company's ambitious plans to transition towards a more sustainable future.
Industry experts speculate that a combination of factors may have contributed to this unexpected turn of events. The global economic downturn and increasing supply chain disruptions have presented considerable hurdles for VW, as well as other automakers, in their pursuit of electric mobility.
Additionally, intense competition in the electric vehicle market, with new players entering the arena, has put pressure on established manufacturers like VW. The company's models faced stiff competition from other well-received EVs, which may have impacted their market penetration.
VW's spokesperson, Mark Thompson, stated, "We remain committed to sustainable mobility, and this decision is a temporary measure to reassess our strategy and adapt to the rapidly evolving market dynamics. We are confident that with the right adjustments, we will continue to play a pivotal role in the electric vehicle revolution."
This development comes at a critical juncture when governments around the world are implementing stringent emission regulations and offering incentives to accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles. Many had looked to companies like VW to lead the charge in this transition.
The temporary halt in production has led to discussions among industry analysts about the broader implications for the electric vehicle market. Some are questioning whether this could signal a broader trend or is merely a unique challenge faced by VW.
VW's stock prices have experienced a noticeable dip in the wake of this announcement. Investors are keenly monitoring the situation as the company's leadership works on a revised strategy to re-enter the electric vehicle market with renewed vigor.
As the automotive industry grapples with these unexpected developments, one thing remains certain: the transition towards electric mobility remains a critical goal for a sustainable future, and companies like Volkswagen will play a vital role in shaping this landscape, even if they encounter temporary setbacks along the way.
We recently bought a new car.
Most manufacturers had electric models available and we did ask in
the dealers.
But the salesmen seemed totally disinterested and only wanted to
sell petrol vehicles, we had said we were most likely to buy petrol.
We did however end up buying automatic, which we had also said was unlikely.
Maybe VW issue is linked to sales forces not trying to sell the product.
We didn't buy a VW either.
I know I'm extrapolating from a very low survey, but if they want
to sell electric cars they have to make them more attractive to
customers, and get the sales force to push them a bit harder.
I expect fuel duty to get ramped up around time of ending new petrol
car sales or shortly afterwards.
Most manufacturers had electric models available and we did ask in
the dealers.
But the salesmen seemed totally disinterested and only wanted to
sell petrol vehicles, we had said we were most likely to buy petrol.
We did however end up buying automatic, which we had also said was unlikely.
Maybe VW issue is linked to sales forces not trying to sell the product.
We didn't buy a VW either.
I know I'm extrapolating from a very low survey, but if they want
to sell electric cars they have to make them more attractive to
customers, and get the sales force to push them a bit harder.
I expect fuel duty to get ramped up around time of ending new petrol
car sales or shortly afterwards.
The transition towards electric mobility remains a critical goal for a sustainable future, and companies like Volkswagen will play a vital role in shaping this landscape, even if they encounter temporary setbacks along the way.
Don't you love this bullshine.
The job of a manufacturer is to produce what the market wants, not to shape it. Maybe that is why you are facing 'temporary setbacks', you utter dip sh1t.
Don't you love this bullshine.
The job of a manufacturer is to produce what the market wants, not to shape it. Maybe that is why you are facing 'temporary setbacks', you utter dip sh1t.
lol if that is fake, I have been suckered on that one 
satire is far too close to reality, I guess!
satire is far too close to reality, I guess!
We recently bought a new car.
Most manufacturers had electric models available and we did ask in
the dealers.
But the salesmen seemed totally disinterested and only wanted to
sell petrol vehicles, we had said we were most likely to buy petrol.
We did however end up buying automatic, which we had also said was unlikely.
Maybe VW issue is linked to sales forces not trying to sell the product.
We didn't buy a VW either.
I know I'm extrapolating from a very low survey, but if they want
to sell electric cars they have to make them more attractive to
customers, and get the sales force to push them a bit harder.
I expect fuel duty to get ramped up around time of ending new petrol
car sales or shortly afterwards.
You have bought a new car at the right time because from next year 22% of all new cars have to be EVs, or the manufacturer will face a £15,000 fine for every ice sold over the 78%. What this will mean in real terms is companies will throttle the sale of ice cars to match the correct ratio of EVs sold, in other words a shortage of ice cars available.
Most manufacturers had electric models available and we did ask in
the dealers.
But the salesmen seemed totally disinterested and only wanted to
sell petrol vehicles, we had said we were most likely to buy petrol.
We did however end up buying automatic, which we had also said was unlikely.
Maybe VW issue is linked to sales forces not trying to sell the product.
We didn't buy a VW either.
I know I'm extrapolating from a very low survey, but if they want
to sell electric cars they have to make them more attractive to
customers, and get the sales force to push them a bit harder.
I expect fuel duty to get ramped up around time of ending new petrol
car sales or shortly afterwards.
You have bought a new car at the right time because from next year 22% of all new cars have to be EVs, or the manufacturer will face a £15,000 fine for every ice sold over the 78%. What this will mean in real terms is companies will throttle the sale of ice cars to match the correct ratio of EVs sold, in other words a shortage of ice cars available.
It's quite a dilemma, you could easily see a scenario where normal cars are squeezed off the road, due to crazy legislation. My current car is fine right now, but it will be 10 years old next year.
Do you spend £30/40/50K on a new one that could become worthless in a few years.
Many people feel that the government will inevitably have to u turn on the 2030 deadline. I'm not so sure they will.
Do you spend £30/40/50K on a new one that could become worthless in a few years.
Many people feel that the government will inevitably have to u turn on the 2030 deadline. I'm not so sure they will.
There plenty of clean fuels already out there that are being ignored by the government
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/petrol-alternative-offers-better-performance-and-can-be-used-with-no-modifications/ar-AA1gILyg?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=685d54defbe14110a0781c854a6e3f1f&ei=29
https://sebastianvettel.de/en/sustainability/
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/petrol-alternative-offers-better-performance-and-can-be-used-with-no-modifications/ar-AA1gILyg?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=685d54defbe14110a0781c854a6e3f1f&ei=29
https://sebastianvettel.de/en/sustainability/
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