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12 Sep 23 16:34
Date Joined: 12 Apr 02
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Tories are corrupt and liars,
Labour hate Britain and its values.
I'd love to see a party come to the fore who represents common sense,
and puts Britain first. I think Reform come the closest
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Report Pokermonster September 12, 2023 4:44 PM BST
The circumstances would suggest that, Mr D, but it would need somebody of very high profile, like Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson, to garner enough support for any new party to make a difference.
Report Dr Crippen September 12, 2023 4:59 PM BST
I'll give reform a go. Labour would sell us all down the river in exchange for votes and the Tories would too.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 12, 2023 5:01 PM BST
Can't wait for the election and for Reform to actually stand.

Some people will actually discover how much they're stuck in a bubble and removed from the views of the wider population when they're one of the couple of hundred voting for their preferred candidate.
Report Pokermonster September 12, 2023 5:01 PM BST
I’m not sure if Reform will even run a candidate in my constituency.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 12, 2023 5:07 PM BST
Reform accepts donations but not members, lol.

Democracy at work, lol

The ukippers who joined the forum say they are all
the same but will all vote for refuk.

Poor old lozza fix has missed the bateau
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 12, 2023 5:11 PM BST
Yep. Nige will know the situation as well as anyone and my hunch is he'll either walk from the party or only stand in a couple of choice seats. He knows he's got a few hundred people on the hook who have their standing orders in place but he won't want to risk looking so small time in such a public way.
Report casemoney September 12, 2023 5:23 PM BST
BOJO is not an Option IMO ,and Farage would win foook all

Its an open Goal for Sir Knee the gob and Team woke , God Help us all
Report Charlie September 12, 2023 5:56 PM BST
Labour don't hate Britain and it's values. BOJO and Farage hate Britain and it's values.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 12, 2023 6:45 PM BST
It's funny that people mention Johnson.

Theyve have numerous goes to elect the it hero farrage
when they were all in ukips together.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 12, 2023 6:46 PM BST
Their hero farrage
Report Knight Commander September 12, 2023 7:15 PM BST
If voting actually made any real difference they'd ban it!!
Report irishone September 12, 2023 7:20 PM BST
put a cross in a box ....and feck your lives up

Report .Marksman. September 13, 2023 3:00 PM BST
Labour don't hate Britain and it's values.   LaughLaughLaugh

Now its Charlie talking "bollocks"!
Report clouded leopard September 13, 2023 3:34 PM BST
There is no real choice when it comes down to it

Spoil yer ballot to make a point ?

It won't

unless it was in the many millions

Make a plan to move far away and never look back
Report DancingBraveTheBest September 13, 2023 3:52 PM BST
Most major governments in the pocket of the WEF.....makes diddly squat who you vote forSad
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 13, 2023 3:59 PM BST
What are Britain's values and in what way is modern Labour against them?
Report edy September 13, 2023 4:07 PM BST
Tories, Labour, Greens, LibDems, Reform, UKIP all love Britain imo. They might think differently about the extend various aspects of past and present Britain should be loved and celebrated, they will also have different ideas on what will be best for their future beloved Britain, but love it they all do.
Report edy September 13, 2023 4:09 PM BST
The entire "They hate the country" is generally complete and utter gobblewash imo, almost irregardless of who the sentence is thrown at. It's a very lazy and transparent attempt to very cheaply defame an "enemy".
Report edy September 13, 2023 4:17 PM BST
Of course there can be hate, or dislike, towards specific aspects in a country and the values its population currently majorily accepts and represents. Some might hate the country not being a Christian fundamentalist theocracy preparing for the rapture. Others might be unimpressed with the country not doing enough for homeless people. Yet others hate Britain being socialist cultural marxist through and through and they'd like a libertarian market and rich people dictatorship. You can have groups that are unimpressed with the way aspects of history are taught, that they maybe feel the Empire is unjustly romanticised. Others that feel the Empire is unjustly demonised.

Doesn't mean they are disgusted by and hate the country itself.
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 4:30 PM BST
I don’t hate the country ..however I despise some
living in England .. such as anyone who doesn’t love the English flag
I’m like that
Report Whisperingdeath September 13, 2023 4:40 PM BST
What do they know of England that England only know?
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 4:43 PM BST
Well , that lovely things like England exist..
is a lively thought … times almost up
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 4:44 PM BST
Is a LOVELY thought *
Report TheBetterBettor September 14, 2023 1:30 PM BST
Referenda are the only real vote for change...

Scottish independence
and maybe the up and coming border poll in northern ireland
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