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Sentencing of Enrique Tarrio caps one of the most significant prosecutions in the investigation into the January 6 attack
The former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison on Tuesday for his part in the failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the 2020 election.
Prosecutors sought a 33-year-term. The judge did not agree but nonetheless handed down the longest sentence yet in a case relating to 2020 and the January 6 Capitol attack. The longest sentence previously handed down in such cases was 18 years, to both Ethan Nordean, a member of the Proud Boys, and Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers militia.
Tarrio was a top target in one of the most important cases prosecuted by the US justice department over the deadly attack on Congress on 6 January 2021.
In May, he and three lieutenants were convicted of charges including seditious conspiracy, a civil war-era offense previously rarely brought but now levied against members of far-right groups which took part in the January 6 attack.
In remarks to the court in Washington, Tarrio said he was sorry for the events of January 6, and credited police officers for their bravery in resisting the attack.
“What happened on January 6 was a national embarrassment,” Tarrio said, adding that he both now knew Trump lost to Joe Biden and blamed himself for actions that led to losing his freedom.
Becoming emotional, Tarrio said: “I do not think what happened that day was acceptable.”
The judge, Timothy Kelly, emphasised the damage done.
“That day broke our previously unbroken tradition of peacefully transferring power,” he said. “That previously unbroken tradition is broken now, and it’s going to take time and effort to fix it.”
Before handing down the sentence, the judge said he did not see any indication that Tarrio was remorseful for what he was convicted for, adding that there was a strong need to send a signal to others.
“It can’t happen again,” Kelly said.
The case was one of the most significant prosecutions in the federal investigation of the attack on Congress, which saw supporters of Trump shock the world with their attempt to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.
The Proud Boys are a so-called “western chauvinist” group, often involved in street fighting with leftwing activists. Tarrio was involved in the run-up to the January 6 insurrection but did not take part in the violence. Before members of the Proud Boys joined thousands in storming the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Biden’s victory, Tarrio was arrested and ordered to leave Washington. But prosecutors showed he organised and led from afar.
“Using his powerful platform, Tarrio has repeatedly and publicly indicated that he has no regrets about what he helped make happen on January 6,” prosecutors said.
Tarrio’s lawyers denied the Proud Boys had any plan to attack the Capitol, arguing that prosecutors used Tarrio as a scapegoat for Trump, who spoke at a “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House on January 6, urging supporters to “fight like hell”.
The justice department has charged Trump with conspiring to subvert American democracy. But the Tarrio case and hundreds of others stand as vivid reminders of the chaos fueled by Trump’s lies, including the storming of the Capitol in an attempt to thwart the peaceful transfer of power, a riot now linked to nine deaths including suicides among law enforcement.
Urging a lenient sentence, Tarrio’s lawyers noted that he has a history of cooperating with law enforcement. Court records uncovered in 2021 showed that Tarrio worked undercover and cooperated with investigators after he was accused of fraud in 2012.
During the riot, however, Tarrio posted encouraging messages on social media, expressing pride and urging followers to stay at the Capitol. He posted a picture of rioters in the Senate chamber with the caption “1776”, the year of the Declaration of Independence.
Several days before the riot, a girlfriend sent Tarrio a document entitled “1776 Returns”. It called for storming and occupying government buildings, “for the purpose of getting the government to overturn the election results”, prosecutors said.
More than 1,100 people have been charged in relation to the Capitol attack. More than 600 have been sentenced, more than half receiving prison terms.
The former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison on Tuesday for his part in the failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the 2020 election.
Prosecutors sought a 33-year-term. The judge did not agree but nonetheless handed down the longest sentence yet in a case relating to 2020 and the January 6 Capitol attack. The longest sentence previously handed down in such cases was 18 years, to both Ethan Nordean, a member of the Proud Boys, and Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers militia.
Tarrio was a top target in one of the most important cases prosecuted by the US justice department over the deadly attack on Congress on 6 January 2021.
In May, he and three lieutenants were convicted of charges including seditious conspiracy, a civil war-era offense previously rarely brought but now levied against members of far-right groups which took part in the January 6 attack.
In remarks to the court in Washington, Tarrio said he was sorry for the events of January 6, and credited police officers for their bravery in resisting the attack.
“What happened on January 6 was a national embarrassment,” Tarrio said, adding that he both now knew Trump lost to Joe Biden and blamed himself for actions that led to losing his freedom.
Becoming emotional, Tarrio said: “I do not think what happened that day was acceptable.”
The judge, Timothy Kelly, emphasised the damage done.
“That day broke our previously unbroken tradition of peacefully transferring power,” he said. “That previously unbroken tradition is broken now, and it’s going to take time and effort to fix it.”
Before handing down the sentence, the judge said he did not see any indication that Tarrio was remorseful for what he was convicted for, adding that there was a strong need to send a signal to others.
“It can’t happen again,” Kelly said.
The case was one of the most significant prosecutions in the federal investigation of the attack on Congress, which saw supporters of Trump shock the world with their attempt to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.
The Proud Boys are a so-called “western chauvinist” group, often involved in street fighting with leftwing activists. Tarrio was involved in the run-up to the January 6 insurrection but did not take part in the violence. Before members of the Proud Boys joined thousands in storming the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Biden’s victory, Tarrio was arrested and ordered to leave Washington. But prosecutors showed he organised and led from afar.
“Using his powerful platform, Tarrio has repeatedly and publicly indicated that he has no regrets about what he helped make happen on January 6,” prosecutors said.
Tarrio’s lawyers denied the Proud Boys had any plan to attack the Capitol, arguing that prosecutors used Tarrio as a scapegoat for Trump, who spoke at a “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House on January 6, urging supporters to “fight like hell”.
The justice department has charged Trump with conspiring to subvert American democracy. But the Tarrio case and hundreds of others stand as vivid reminders of the chaos fueled by Trump’s lies, including the storming of the Capitol in an attempt to thwart the peaceful transfer of power, a riot now linked to nine deaths including suicides among law enforcement.
Urging a lenient sentence, Tarrio’s lawyers noted that he has a history of cooperating with law enforcement. Court records uncovered in 2021 showed that Tarrio worked undercover and cooperated with investigators after he was accused of fraud in 2012.
During the riot, however, Tarrio posted encouraging messages on social media, expressing pride and urging followers to stay at the Capitol. He posted a picture of rioters in the Senate chamber with the caption “1776”, the year of the Declaration of Independence.
Several days before the riot, a girlfriend sent Tarrio a document entitled “1776 Returns”. It called for storming and occupying government buildings, “for the purpose of getting the government to overturn the election results”, prosecutors said.
More than 1,100 people have been charged in relation to the Capitol attack. More than 600 have been sentenced, more than half receiving prison terms.
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That’s the truth .. whether you want to hear it or not
Read it again, for this is how you will be known forever more
you will post a thousand times a day, opining your drivel on a hundred topics in a desperate attempt to erase our memories of your nazi ideals, but we British, we don't forget you.
so in denial of your own putrefaction, so oblivious to the sensibilities of the British and their understated and yet undefeatable will to overcome nazis like yourself, you think us like the 'mericans that can be distracted from your vileness by your obfuscation and misdirection.
We are British, through and through , and we are not misled or turned away from truthby you and your nazi friends.
go feck you and your ilk, We are British, you are scum.
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you will post a thousand times a day, opining your drivel on a hundred topics in a desperate attempt to erase our memories of your nazi ideals, but we British, we don't forget you.
so in denial of your own putrefaction, so oblivious to the sensibilities of the British and their understated and yet undefeatable will to overcome nazis like yourself, you think us like the 'mericans that can be distracted from your vileness by your obfuscation and misdirection.
We are British, through and through , and we are not misled or turned away from truthby you and your nazi friends.
go feck you and your ilk, We are British, you are scum.
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don't praise the murderer of my grand parents and great-grand parents and expect me not to want to physically sh1t down your throat.
apologies to the forum moderator, this post should probably be deleted.
apologies to the forum moderator, this post should probably be deleted.
Am I the only British person on this forum?
where are you alun, case, voltage, cider, foin, crippen, flat116, pokermonster, tibucteeth, et al?
you all seem very quiet and absent of opinion about this display of love for the murderer of our grand parents.
where are you alun, case, voltage, cider, foin, crippen, flat116, pokermonster, tibucteeth, et al?
you all seem very quiet and absent of opinion about this display of love for the murderer of our grand parents.
sorry to hear that escapee very sad
Who said you were not British? , disgraceful
name and shame them ….
Who said you were not British? , disgraceful
name and shame them ….
the fact he is nazi sympathiser is hardly shocking to most on this forum
LFC lies by saying he has blocked you when he hasn't
LFC tells you what a great country Britain is, that he is not English, and then that Britain is bad
he is over 70 and is simply not worth the time
a sad individual in god's Eastbourne nursing home waiting room...good luck to him , an idiot with not long to go
LFC lies by saying he has blocked you when he hasn't
LFC tells you what a great country Britain is, that he is not English, and then that Britain is bad
he is over 70 and is simply not worth the time
a sad individual in god's Eastbourne nursing home waiting room...good luck to him , an idiot with not long to go
^ deviant stalker Iris still stalking
Blocked ages ago .. be nice
Blocked ages ago .. be nice
Amazon books U.K. :
Hitlers Charisma
Leading millions into the abyss
Laurence Rees
Perhaps escapee will want to see this book banned
or even burnt …
Hitlers Charisma
Leading millions into the abyss
Laurence Rees
Perhaps escapee will want to see this book banned
or even burnt …
keep reading my posts muppet liar
your charisma gave you away
your charisma gave you away
You need to let this go escapee
Many of these fools are just attention seeking idiots who probably live with their mothers.
The Roll Call of Shame of these Bigots on Betfair is appalling. You will not get any sense from this fool and Betfair seem to think it is ok.
He embarrasses himself, you don’t need to say anything
We fought his hero in uniforms and we will fight his like on the streets to save this country and I for one am looking forward to that!
Many of these fools are just attention seeking idiots who probably live with their mothers.
The Roll Call of Shame of these Bigots on Betfair is appalling. You will not get any sense from this fool and Betfair seem to think it is ok.
He embarrasses himself, you don’t need to say anything
We fought his hero in uniforms and we will fight his like on the streets to save this country and I for one am looking forward to that!
I should correct that
He us not embarrassing himself of the Betfair Moderator
But he is embarrassing any true Englishman
He us not embarrassing himself of the Betfair Moderator
But he is embarrassing any true Englishman
You'd have to be a bit simple to find Hitler, a man who murdered millions of innocent people, charismatic.
What next for lfc? The bin Laden Appreciation Society? The Official Rose West Fan Club?
What next for lfc? The bin Laden Appreciation Society? The Official Rose West Fan Club?
Peter Sutcliffe a better truck driver than the queen? ^^^
When the Beatles first started out
they were astonished at the reaction of the crowds -
It was such a shock and the power that the Beatles themselves compared it
to being like … Hitler
they were astonished at the reaction of the crowds -
It was such a shock and the power that the Beatles themselves compared it
to being like … Hitler
The Beatles and Adolf Hitler :
Von George Broderick and Nicole Jama
08, 01, 2019
Von George Broderick and Nicole Jama
08, 01, 2019
Over the years the Beatles have earned the
reputation of promoting peace , love and non violence in their music
and deeds and therefore it will likely come as an unexpected surprise
to many that behind all of this the phenomenon of apparent association
of later Beatles personnel with Adolf Hitler has been lurking in the background
even before the Beatles as a music group came into existence …
reputation of promoting peace , love and non violence in their music
and deeds and therefore it will likely come as an unexpected surprise
to many that behind all of this the phenomenon of apparent association
of later Beatles personnel with Adolf Hitler has been lurking in the background
even before the Beatles as a music group came into existence …
Now you can be as abusive and foul mouthed
and agressive or hostile and violent as you like
Hitler had charisma ..
and agressive or hostile and violent as you like
Hitler had charisma ..
Doesn’t impress me .. but I’m English - we produced the Beatles
It did impress German people .. you would be best to ask yourself why
It did impress German people .. you would be best to ask yourself why
Germans more loved the genocidal vibes towards jews and other minorities rather than being impressed by Hitler's way of speaking imo.
Is that so .hmm best to keep that quiet it doesn’t do you any favours
I can understand Hitlers charisma .. but not that
I can understand Hitlers charisma .. but not that
It doesn't help anyone if you deny own atrocities in history and heavily romanticise things about it all having been down to Hitler's "charms", him seducing the innocent population, instead of acknowledging that a large part of the NSDAP's appeal of course having been their genocidal and supremacist ambitions.
There are a lot of countries out there that still struggle with coming to grips with their own history and the atrocities performed by their ancestors. There is a weird and very cowardly false patriotism to it. This applies to Germany as well in some aspects of its history, but on the Nazi times we are somewhat truthful to ourselves.
There are a lot of countries out there that still struggle with coming to grips with their own history and the atrocities performed by their ancestors. There is a weird and very cowardly false patriotism to it. This applies to Germany as well in some aspects of its history, but on the Nazi times we are somewhat truthful to ourselves.
They’re censoring some of my perfectly good and pure and innocuous posts 
Here’s one they have censored -
He had the amazing ability to sway and ‘ electrify “ his crowds
from beerhalls to the Reichstag . .. charisma played an important role
in his rise to power .
He had the amazing ability to sway and ‘ electrify “ his crowds
from beerhalls to the Reichstag . .. charisma played an important role
in his rise to power .
THE NAZI MENTALITY ......LIES LIES AND MORE LIES
lfc1971 • May 3, 2022 12:42 PM BST
If we could get rid of about 50 million people in England it would be a good start
lfc1971 Date Joined: 06 Nov 11 03 Jan 13 23:10 "by the way I am not english"
lfc1971 • September 13, 2023 2:53 PM BST Doesn’t impress me .. but I’m English
lfc1971 • May 3, 2022 12:42 PM BST
If we could get rid of about 50 million people in England it would be a good start
lfc1971 Date Joined: 06 Nov 11 03 Jan 13 23:10 "by the way I am not english"
lfc1971 • September 13, 2023 2:53 PM BST Doesn’t impress me .. but I’m English
By lfc1971 on 31 Jan 23 22:36 " History doesn’t bother me"
lfc1971 15 Jun 22 12:07 Joined: 06 Nov 11 "If you weren’t so stupid you would know that I knew the history of music"
lfc1971 15 Jun 22 12:07 Joined: 06 Nov 11 "If you weren’t so stupid you would know that I knew the history of music"
Lol pervert Iris stalker still stalking
You know when I go to the barbers they can’t shut up
And sometimes they ask am I Swedish , or Norwegian or German or even Russian
I treat all such nationalistic questions .. with a steely silence
You know when I go to the barbers they can’t shut up
And sometimes they ask am I Swedish , or Norwegian or German or even Russian
I treat all such nationalistic questions .. with a steely silence
Deary me , imagine anyone from Germany ..
or even worse south Ireland ( such as scummy Irish one )
having the audacity to preach about Adolf Hitler beyond I
My gosh It makes you want to puke .. especially in south Irelands and the Iris deviant stalkers case
or even worse south Ireland ( such as scummy Irish one )
having the audacity to preach about Adolf Hitler beyond I
My gosh It makes you want to puke .. especially in south Irelands and the Iris deviant stalkers case
The nazi liar , struggling to get his story straight ......
Buckingham Palace aide resigns over remarks to black charity boss
By lfc1971 on 1 Dec 22 12:14
Sometimes if I am at the barbers or somewhere I have been asked if I am Swedish , or American ?no not that either , then well what are you ? Its fine and I’m happy to answer such nationalistic questions Sometimes I tell lies and say I am Danish
lfc197106 Jan 23 19:45
You know once I was in a barbers
and he asked was I an American, or Swedish , or Russian ,or German or Danish !
I like to leave such people who ask me about my patriotic feelings in the dark
Thats because he is English, he's not English, he is now Danish ? Still he does actually admit he tells lies
Buckingham Palace aide resigns over remarks to black charity boss
By lfc1971 on 1 Dec 22 12:14
Sometimes if I am at the barbers or somewhere I have been asked if I am Swedish , or American ?no not that either , then well what are you ? Its fine and I’m happy to answer such nationalistic questions Sometimes I tell lies and say I am Danish
lfc197106 Jan 23 19:45
You know once I was in a barbers
and he asked was I an American, or Swedish , or Russian ,or German or Danish !
I like to leave such people who ask me about my patriotic feelings in the dark
Thats because he is English, he's not English, he is now Danish ? Still he does actually admit he tells lies
^!pretends he doesn’t read my posts … but still triggered 
I can assure you he will still be triggered at the years end , and this time next year
He’s from south Ireland… and I know
I can assure you he will still be triggered at the years end , and this time next year
He’s from south Ireland… and I know
Let me give you a little insight to those who don’t know
If you have any dealings with an Irish nationalist / Republican
you have to set a gun on the table … to protect yourself
If you have any dealings with an Irish nationalist / Republican
you have to set a gun on the table … to protect yourself
Deviant stalker Iris bigot by the way
is an archetypal example of this …watch him
is an archetypal example of this …watch him
One post
Three seething replies.....
Heel boy........Heel
Three seething replies.....
Heel boy........Heel
^ lol , creepy little rodent still stalking and triggered 
^ hmm more abuse from the likes of whispering death
the working classes are like that … and then often become aggressive and even violent
We have only to read his posts on this thread ..
the working classes are like that … and then often become aggressive and even violent
We have only to read his posts on this thread ..
So a guy who wan't there and made some social media posts gets 22 years.
Ray Epps, who was there, and repeatedly encouraged people to go into the Capitol, and was in the vanguard of those who knocked down the barrier and got it all started...
serves 0 days
Ray Epps, who was there, and repeatedly encouraged people to go into the Capitol, and was in the vanguard of those who knocked down the barrier and got it all started...
serves 0 days
Last month, Epps sued Fox News for defamation, accusing former host Tucker Carlson of promoting a reckless conspiracy theory. Carlson was fired by Fox News the day after this report first aired.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-epps-jan-6-capitol-protest-60-minutes-transcript-2023-08-20/
Foinirony been drinking the koolaid, again,
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-epps-jan-6-capitol-protest-60-minutes-transcript-2023-08-20/
Foinirony been drinking the koolaid, again,
Oh apologies it's not foinirony, it's tobermorirony
I am shocked, lfc, shocked! What is all that "i am not english" and "I'm English" thing all about? I need to know for my continued belief in the good of humanity. Please have a good explanation. I am begging you!
It’s the obligation of any gop president to pardon
these individuals
If there is no prospect of a Republican president within the next ten years
Then it is time to split up the states
There is no reason why the American mid west eg should be governed by democrats
There’s nothing aligned and they don’t have the same principles or vision - in fact they are enemies
these individuals
If there is no prospect of a Republican president within the next ten years
Then it is time to split up the states
There is no reason why the American mid west eg should be governed by democrats
There’s nothing aligned and they don’t have the same principles or vision - in fact they are enemies
edy it’s like this it’s not difficult to understand
I am an anti Londoner , and I like Scotland ( not the scotch Irish celtic snp types )
I am an anti Londoner , and I like Scotland ( not the scotch Irish celtic snp types )
I might go and live there .. if England goes to pot
And they can’t stop me , same as Ireland
And they can’t stop me , same as Ireland
edy • September 13, 2023 10:23 PM BST
I am shocked, lfc, shocked! What is all that "i am not english" and "I'm English" thing all about? I need to know for my continued belief in the good of humanity. Please have a good explanation. I am begging you!
The explanation is simple Edy, he is a proven liar
I am shocked, lfc, shocked! What is all that "i am not english" and "I'm English" thing all about? I need to know for my continued belief in the good of humanity. Please have a good explanation. I am begging you!
The explanation is simple Edy, he is a proven liar
^ lol blocked
Doubtless he’s still slithering around reading all my posts
Doubtless he’s still slithering around reading all my posts
Ha, and the MAGAs say they ain't sheep. One Fed agent using an utterly fake name like Ray Epps is all that's needed to get them all to insurrect.
So easy for the deep state.
So easy for the deep state.
By the way I have more land and property in Ireland
than anyone on this forum … and it will never be Irish !
than anyone on this forum … and it will never be Irish !
And now it only needs like 30 Tucker shows to get all of MAGA riled up about Ray Epps in shows of sympathy for the white supremacists that got imprisoned for much longer.
Oh and I have relatives in Scotland
That land and property may come my way , I don’t know
Anyway that will always forever be British also
That land and property may come my way , I don’t know
Anyway that will always forever be British also
And I don’t care how the scotch or Irish nationalists vote
The land and property is mine .. end of
The land and property is mine .. end of
Edy
He is a proven liar , apart from the above ....... all these forumites cant be wrong
This deal with Rwanda By ----you-have-to-laugh--- on 23 Apr 22 10:53Lfc is making it up
Sweden’s Covid death rate among lowest in EuropeBy Charlie on 7 May 22 18:17Are you talking to me lfc? You said you blocked me or was that a lie?
POLICE open door to full investigation into Starmers Covid PartyBy Whisperingdeath on 8 May 22 09:50
lfcAre you on crack?Seriously do you think anybody believes your lies
Nortern Ireland to get direct rule from DublinBy peckerdunne on 2 Nov 22 13:30
Now that is crossing the line lfc, and it's lies
Trolls on the Politics forum, let's ignore them completely. By A_T on 29 Nov 22 11:06
lfc doesn't believe half of what he posts - he's said himself he posts lies.
He is a proven liar , apart from the above ....... all these forumites cant be wrong
This deal with Rwanda By ----you-have-to-laugh--- on 23 Apr 22 10:53Lfc is making it up
Sweden’s Covid death rate among lowest in EuropeBy Charlie on 7 May 22 18:17Are you talking to me lfc? You said you blocked me or was that a lie?
POLICE open door to full investigation into Starmers Covid PartyBy Whisperingdeath on 8 May 22 09:50
lfcAre you on crack?Seriously do you think anybody believes your lies
Nortern Ireland to get direct rule from DublinBy peckerdunne on 2 Nov 22 13:30
Now that is crossing the line lfc, and it's lies
Trolls on the Politics forum, let's ignore them completely. By A_T on 29 Nov 22 11:06
lfc doesn't believe half of what he posts - he's said himself he posts lies.
Oh, but we all lie on the internet in front of our potential future soulmates, don't we?
U.K. - EU - N Ireland Protocol deal imminent ..
By lapsy pa on 2 Feb 23 20:28
More lies and misinformation yet again from you Lfc,
By lapsy pa on 2 Feb 23 20:28
More lies and misinformation yet again from you Lfc,
Let’s get this clear
No one and I mean no one on this forum or anywhere else
Has more moral justification to Scotland or Ireland .. than I
And that includes any deviant stalker like the Iris Republican bigot
I doubt he’s built these counties like I have or at least my forefathers
No one and I mean no one on this forum or anywhere else
Has more moral justification to Scotland or Ireland .. than I
And that includes any deviant stalker like the Iris Republican bigot
I doubt he’s built these counties like I have or at least my forefathers
Fox News pays $787 million to Dominion for election lies
By Escapee on 19 Apr 23 16:44
lfc is a clear demonstration of how effective media misinformation and lies are at controlling the thoughts of the feeble minded
By Escapee on 19 Apr 23 16:44
lfc is a clear demonstration of how effective media misinformation and lies are at controlling the thoughts of the feeble minded
Gaelic lessons for some in the North of Ireland.
By lfc1971 on 26 Mar 23 20:57
I don’t like it when Germans talk to me in English When they do that I sometimes lie and say I’m not English
By lfc1971 on 26 Mar 23 20:57
I don’t like it when Germans talk to me in English When they do that I sometimes lie and say I’m not English
Sorry any south Irish catholic nationalist Republican
I have more claim to Ireland and Scotland than any of you .. fact
I have more claim to Ireland and Scotland than any of you .. fact
The LAND ( substantial ) and PROPERTY is mine - end of
By lfc1971 on 26 Mar 23 20:57
I don’t like it when Germans talk to me in English When they do that I sometimes lie and say I’m not English
Oh Es tut mir wirklich sehr Leid, dass ich Ihnen wahrscheinlich sehr viel **** und schlechte Laune bereitet habe. Es war keineswegs meine Absicht in Ihnen negative Gefühle auszulösen, sondern schlicht Unwissenheit in dieser Hinsicht.
I don’t like it when Germans talk to me in English When they do that I sometimes lie and say I’m not English
Oh
Es tut mir wirklich sehr Leid, dass ich Ihnen wahrscheinlich sehr viel **** und schlechte Laune bereitet habe. Es war keineswegs meine Absicht in Ihnen negative Gefühle auszulösen, sondern schlicht Unwissenheit in dieser Hinsicht.
Epps is gonna need another Democrat jury to win that case
As in jury that is super soft on super criminals like Democrats are known to be?
A jury drawn from a district which the Democrats win with 85% of the vote
You said "another". Did it help him the first time around? Because they are super soft on criminals I assume?
But in the other case they'd be super tough on crime?
But in the other case they'd be super tough on crime?
Another jury like for the loony woman who said Trump raped her
Oh.
So for his own case it was a Republican jury that got him off so very lightly because they are all unhinged and soft on crime?
So for his own case it was a Republican jury that got him off so very lightly because they are all unhinged and soft on crime?
Was just watching a programme about WW2
And the final words quotes Churchill addressing parliament in the darkest days of the war
These were his words :
“ If this long Island story of ours is to end at last ,
let it end only when each of us lies choking in his own blood
upon the ground “
These words struck deep -
true purity is possible
And the final words quotes Churchill addressing parliament in the darkest days of the war
These were his words :
“ If this long Island story of ours is to end at last ,
let it end only when each of us lies choking in his own blood
upon the ground “
These words struck deep -
true purity is possible
Ray Epps didn't have a case, as apparently his inciting of people to go into the Capitol was not a problem when he did it.
Oh, when you voiced disappointment that all those extremists are to serve longer than Ray Epps, it sounded to me like there was a sentence of
"tobermory • September 13, 2023 10:08 PM BST
serves 0 days"
handed down on him. Sorry, my bad. Will he not have a case at all?
"tobermory • September 13, 2023 10:08 PM BST
serves 0 days"
handed down on him. Sorry, my bad. Will he not have a case at all?
Shame. They should really at least do show trials even for FBI people to keep it all more belieable. Do the show trial and sentence him. Nobody is going to really know if he really actually serves. Or sentence him to probation like quite a few other people that were there that day that did get off with probation and will never actually have to serve a day in prison if they behave for a while.
I'm seeing different things btw.
So...did Epps tell folk to chillax (majorily) or did he majorily incite folk that day?
So...did Epps tell folk to chillax (majorily) or did he majorily incite folk that day?
Like, that "60 Minutes" video that you-have-to-laugh linked to has audio (manipulated?) that has him telling people to chillax and step down and not be violent and stuff.
lol even the CBS interviewer is very sceptical of him
Well, you know how sceptical these loony radical leftists are towards Trump supporters.
Who they sniff out to be Trump supporters with their unhinged noses and lacking knowledge of human nature.
Isn't the scepticism actually a sign Epps is not FBI. We know the media all work together with the deep woke state. If Epps was FBI, then the interviewer would be all over not showing any scepticism.
UNLESS (!!) of course the scepticism is deliberately played/acted in a truly f upped attempt of a mindf.
UNLESS (!!) of course the scepticism is deliberately played/acted in a truly f upped attempt of a mindf.
Sep 13, 2023 -- 5:01PM, tobermory wrote:
A jury drawn from a district which the Democrats win with 85% of the vote
Btw., would this be because the Democratic jury would not care about the massive amounts of evidence that Epps indeed is/was a federal agent (or someone working for the FBI informally) or because a jury consisting of more Republicans would not care if no substantial and hard evidence was presented?
*or because a jury consisting of more Republicans would not care if no substantial and hard evidence was presented because they all go on their feels and beliefs?
A jury from a small town in a Red State would throw out Epps case against Fox in 2 minutes.
A Democrat jury would award him $200 million damages.
The evidence would hardly matter.
Politicians have always appointed judges in the USA, but until fairly recently people assumed good faith and cases would be considered on their merits.
That's all out the window now.
A Democrat jury would award him $200 million damages.
The evidence would hardly matter.
Politicians have always appointed judges in the USA, but until fairly recently people assumed good faith and cases would be considered on their merits.
That's all out the window now.
The main thing is that the stupid followers of Trump, the orange bigoted perv, tried to reverse the democratic wishes of the American
voters by invading the Capital, and the ring leaders are rightly being banged up in prison for a long time. Quite right.
Of course the real ring leader who told them to do it and refused for ages to ask them to stop, that same orange bigoted perv, is yet to stand trial.
But he will.
Jail beckons and not before time.
voters by invading the Capital, and the ring leaders are rightly being banged up in prison for a long time. Quite right.
Of course the real ring leader who told them to do it and refused for ages to ask them to stop, that same orange bigoted perv, is yet to stand trial.
But he will.
Jail beckons and not before time.
Ray Epps has been charged. He plans to plead guilty and enter into plea deal.
https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-capitol-riot-jan-6-fox-38748c79cd7b6916584a5db7ca87af7a
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ray-epps-subject-tucker-carlsons-jan-6-conspiracy-theories-charged-doj-rcna99836
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/19/ray-epps-jan6-conspiracy-theory-charged/
https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-capitol-riot-jan-6-fox-38748c79cd7b6916584a5db7ca87af7a
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ray-epps-subject-tucker-carlsons-jan-6-conspiracy-theories-charged-doj-rcna99836
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/19/ray-epps-jan6-conspiracy-theory-charged/
Gotta give your own people like Epps at least a show trial for being real mean and trapping that day to all the white supremacists and general extremists we all look up to.
how the autocrats must hug themselves with joy seeing this. they just kill em. simples
judicial process indeed
those that sneer might contemplate the alternative
its a savage sentence and would be condemned as such if those sentenced were not beyond the pale. if they were within it, the howls would be be loud
judicial process indeed
those that sneer might contemplate the alternative
its a savage sentence and would be condemned as such if those sentenced were not beyond the pale. if they were within it, the howls would be be loud
Great to see traitors going to jail although they are getting off lightly. I would prefer them to receive the treatment meted oug to Gug Fawkes
Federal: Disorderly or Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds
Epps pleaded Guilty to the charge. Sentencing set for 12/20/2023
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories
Going by other FBI instigators listed with the same charge on that page, Epps will get off very lightly for trespassing here.
Epps pleaded Guilty to the charge. Sentencing set for 12/20/2023
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories
Going by other FBI instigators listed with the same charge on that page, Epps will get off very lightly for trespassing here.
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