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peckerdunne
16 Aug 23 18:37
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If he was black there would be a thread.

What a shambles the whole thing is.

British justice, yet again, unfortunately, fooked.
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Report peckerdunne August 16, 2023 6:38 PM BST
And no, my point is not anti black.
Report peckerdunne August 16, 2023 6:38 PM BST
Might be anti some forumites.
Report Whisperingdeath August 16, 2023 9:22 PM BST
If he was black he would still be in jail!

You have heard of the Guildford 4 Pecker? or the Maguires?

Your OP is an unfortunate dog whistle for the usual suspects and in poor taste.

Have you heard of the Oval 4 or countless others?

Yes this case is a disgusting miscarriage of justice and heads and pensions should roll imho. There should be a Judicial Enquiry.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 9:47 PM BST
I read that Starmer was the DPP at the time they ruled that a retrial would be too expensive. I'm not that familiar with the case, but they were involved after the other man's DNA sample was established.

GMP oversight is with Labour party, I believe.

This happened when Labour were in gvnt.

So not much they can pin on the Tories. But, we can be sure that the guardian will try to find something.
Report SirNorbertClarke August 16, 2023 10:48 PM BST
There needs to be a Judge led inquiry and the findings need to be fully acting on. Those guilty of incompetence, neglect or corruption need punishing.
Report peckerdunne August 16, 2023 10:51 PM BST
You have heard of the Guildford 4 Pecker? or the Maguires?

Are you taking the pissh WD.
Report peckerdunne August 16, 2023 10:51 PM BST
467
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 16, 2023 11:09 PM BST
The evidence of the evidence finding and witness
selection needs to be looked at. So much corrupt
practice about.

It's actually amazing police are ever trusted there
is so much evidence of bent cops.

But a truth finding exercise would help, but
police will lie and cover up, too much gravy at stake.
Report Whisperingdeath August 17, 2023 12:31 AM BST
Pecker,

Diane Abbott covered it!
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 17, 2023 9:42 AM BST
Why didnt whoever got raped identify him. ??
Report impossible123 August 17, 2023 10:36 AM BST
The cops, the CPS and the CCRC were professionally inept, morally weak and corrupt. They had the evidence to acquit him but were too weak to admit their mistake and release Malkinson.

Then the state charged him for bed and breakfast for 17 years at HMP.
Report saddo August 17, 2023 12:47 PM BST
I never understand why coppers are glad to get anybody rather than the right body. Lack of pride in their work is
what gets me.
Report casemoney August 17, 2023 12:58 PM BST
17 Years ? Does not seem to be the Term offenders are getting these Days ,Did he have Previous ?
Report saddo August 17, 2023 1:15 PM BST
He got life with a minimum 6 1/2 years case. You can't get parole unless you admit you dunnit.
Report casemoney August 17, 2023 1:17 PM BST
Half the Groomers of Recent years have not done 6 years most back out on the streets
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 1:31 PM BST
Why didnt whoever got raped identify him. ??



Malkinson was identified by the victim in a identity parade line-up, despite several key details not matching with the description of the perpetrator. For example, she described the attacker as being 3 inches shorter than Malkinson, with a hairless chest and no tattoos. Malkinson had chest hair and prominent tattoos on his forearms. She also said the attacker would have a "deep scratch" to his face, since she'd scratched him so hard she had broken one of her fingernails. Malkinson was seen at work the next day with no scratch to his face. He also didn't have the Bolton accent the victim said the attacker had.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 1:50 PM BST
In 2020, the CCRC turned down another application from Mr Malkinson, again failing to make any forensic enquiries.

After APPEAL commissioned DNA testing which revealed the presence of male DNA which could not have come from Mr Malkinson in several other samples from the victim and her clothing, the CCRC in 2022 finally arranged a search of the National DNA Database.

This linked the DNA from the vest top to a new suspect, ‘Mr B’, who was subsequently arrested by police. However, Mr B’s DNA profile had been sitting on the database from 2012 – meaning the CCRC could have identified him as a suspect years earlier.

Despite having the legal powers to do so, the CCRC did not obtain and review the police’s case files – meaning it failed to uncover the disclosure failings which the Court has ruled renders Mr Malkinson’s conviction unsafe.

If the CCRC had uncovered the disclosure failings and referred Mr Malkinson’s case to the Court of Appeal in 2009, when he first applied to the body, he would have been spared a decade of wrongful imprisonment.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 1:52 PM BST
They knew (or would have known) who the true rapist was, and he was still roaming around free as a bird!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 2:01 PM BST
It's hard to believe a decent barrister could not
highlite the obvious absurdity of the identification
of malkinson given the fairly clear evidence given
by witness in initial statement.

It's like West yorks police going down a rabbit hole
looking for the mackem hoaxer instead of the ripper.


It does rather beg the question.. Why did they fit
him up!
Report Cider August 17, 2023 2:02 PM BST
Interesting link, with the original e fit. Before any arrest, they basically had no idea who it was (publicly, anyway)

.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3106445.stm

Hairless chest

The man is olive-skinned, in his early to mid-30s, and of medium build.

He has a flat stomach and defined chest muscles. He had a shiny hairless chest, was clean-shaven and spoke with a Bolton accent.

He was wearing dark trousers and a white shirt with a collar, which he wore unbuttoned.

Witnesses or those with information about the attacker should contact Salford CID or ring Crimestoppers.
Report Whisperingdeath August 17, 2023 2:03 PM BST
17 Years ? Does not seem to be the Term offenders are getting these Days ,Did he have Previous ?


This man stayed in jail for 10 extra years because he would not admit he was the rapist just so he could get out quicker.

I really believe that people should be jailed, lose their pension or at the very least lose their jobs over this.

What sort of person does not care if the wrong man goes to jail?
Report Cider August 17, 2023 2:07 PM BST
Very very strange altogether. Even with the numerous failings.

Detective Inspector Steve Bell said the e-fit is a very good likeness to the attacker, according to the victim.

I want to ensure [this man] is not able to commit any similar attacks
Detective Inspector Steve Bell
He said: "Since the start of this investigation we have had very little information put forward by members of the public. I am hoping someone may recognise this man.

"This man would have come home in the early hours of Saturday morning with a scratch on the right side of his face and neck.



The victim was apparently able to provide extremely detailed descriptions, but picked out someone else in a video line up. Obviously it sounds like a horrendous and traumatic experience.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 2:15 PM BST
The CCRC has now reviewed the evidence and allowed the case to be referred to the Court of Appeal, where judges will decide whether to allow an appeal against the conviction. In a statement issued by legal charity Appeal, Mr Malkinson said: “I am innocent. Finally, I have the chance to prove it thanks to the perseverance of my legal team at appeal.

“I only have one life and so far 20 years of it has been stolen from me. Yesterday I turned 57 years old. How much longer will it take?”

Advancements in scientific techniques have uncovered traces of DNA on the victims clothing which allegedly match the 48-year-old from Exeter. The charity said that the new analysis of the DNA was only possible because samples had been kept by the government-owned company Forensic Archive Limited, and accused Greater Manchester Police of having destroyed or lost exhibits.

The CCRC has passed the DNA evidence to Greater Manchester Police for investigators to consider.

CCRC chairwoman Helen Pitcher said: “The new results raise concerns about the safety of these serious convictions. It is now for the Court of Appeal to decide whether they should be quashed.”


It was only through the persistence of this charity. Everywhere you look, you find more stink. Who will pay, likely nobody, aside from the taxpayer.
Report saddo August 17, 2023 2:16 PM BST
'I want to ensure [this man] is not able to commit any similar attacks'

They don't tho, they left him to do more if he wanted.
Report Whisperingdeath August 17, 2023 2:17 PM BST
Glad we are all agreed on something for a change.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 2:24 PM BST
I'm extremely sceptical of big charities generally, nice to see this one doing some invaluable, intellectual, tangibly positive work.
Report jollyswagman August 17, 2023 4:25 PM BST
gmp and the ccrc have repeatedly shown themselves to be clowns in this particular miscarriage of justice.

witness identification evidence is notoriously unreliable, as this case highlights.

the court of appeal judgment is well worth reading - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Malkinson-v-the-King-070...
Report jollyswagman August 17, 2023 4:29 PM BST
https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/andrew-malkinson-v-the-king/
Report tobermory August 17, 2023 4:34 PM BST
shocking case.

Read about this a few weeks ago.

What I couldn't figure was why the police had him as a suspect in the first place, in order to put him in the line up.

Baffling how she picked him out.

Very difficult to get any part of the system to admit an error, even when it is clear.
Report saddo August 17, 2023 4:40 PM BST
If, as it seems, the coppers were after anybody they could easily steer someone in a line up.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:48 PM BST
It smacks of the post office postmaster style cover up (on a smaller scale). Rather than admitting errors, allow innocent people to rot in jail.

You would think that this should trigger a review/search for any similar cases.
Report Emitdeb August 17, 2023 4:56 PM BST
rip..
Report Whisperingdeath August 17, 2023 5:09 PM BST
I think a girl got jailed for stealing a bottle of water once in this country.
Report jollyswagman August 17, 2023 5:52 PM BST
tobermory, from the court of appeal judgment it looks like these two police officers thought it could be him

7. Two police officers, who had spoken to the appellant in relation to a traffic stop some
weeks earlier and recalled his appearance, visited him at his place of work on 20th
July 2003, only hours after the offences were committed. He had no visible injury to
his face. He was arrested on 2nd August 2003. From the outset, and when
interviewed under caution, he denied the allegations. He agreed to take part in
identification procedures and to give DNA samples, saying that scientific evidence
would show his innocence
Report tobermory August 17, 2023 6:03 PM BST
thanks Jolly,

sounds like they had it in for him from the traffic incident, if he didn't match the description
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 6:07 PM BST
He may have facially matched the description.

But a lack of a scratch on his face. And the obvious
tattoos and overnight growth of chest hair suggest
strongly it's not him.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 6:08 PM BST
Oh the height difference too although
3 inches is not a game changer.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 6:09 PM BST
And his accent was wrong.


How could a jury convict?
Report jollyswagman August 17, 2023 6:10 PM BST
one witness was a junkie who only identified him six months later, another one changed her mind at the id parade. they both had plenty of form which wasnt disclosed to the defence.

the victim scratched the attacker in the face yet malkinson had no injuries on his face.

photographic evidence was withheld.

it is a litany of c0ck ups.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 6:25 PM BST
It is surely more likely a fit up than **** ups.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 17, 2023 6:26 PM BST
Cock ups

Ffs betfair
Report saddo August 17, 2023 6:26 PM BST
It is.
Report casemoney August 17, 2023 9:02 PM BST
What sort of person does not care if the wrong man goes to jail?

More to the Point is the Evil Basterd who carried out the Attack was still roaming the Streets 

The Cardiff business takes some beating the Bloke who carried out the Attack Murder  was reported to have been sitting outside the Building
Covered in Blood , A white Man

The Old bill rounded up 5 black Blokes ,Who all had Alibis Beyond belief TBH
Report casemoney August 17, 2023 9:07 PM BST
One of the Cardiff lads was at work on the Docks,  Clocked in and Witnesses said he was there, NEE GOOD ur nicked
Report peckerdunne August 17, 2023 9:27 PM BST
WD, it's not meant in bad taste, however you feel, I think you missed the switch up.
Report lfc1971 August 17, 2023 9:28 PM BST
Regarding the identification, a couple of years ago in America
a best selling author Alice Sebold  apologised for her part in the wrongful conviction
of a man who was cleared after spending 16 years in prison
Her first book described how she saw a black man in the street who she believed
was her attacker . Anthony Broadwater was arrested and convicted . Her first book lucky
described the events and sold a million copies , her most recent The Lovely Bones was
turned into an Oscar nominated film
When she was attacked she was an 18 year old university student in New York
After his arrest Ms Sebold failed to pick him out in a police line up selecting another man
But he was tried anyway
Report lfc1971 August 17, 2023 9:38 PM BST
She genuinely believed he was the attacker
I think when she saw him on the street he might have asked her
something , totally innocuous , and then they walked away
But she did genuinely believe she had run into her attacker
Report LoyalHoncho August 18, 2023 11:44 PM BST
The Luke Mitchell case is the one which should currently be filling the void created by Malkinson's release.
A shocking and quite orchestrated frame up by the Dalkeith and L and B police , aided and abetted by Newspaper brainwashing of the general public,  of an innocent youth who happened to fit their bill.  With no concrete evidence whatsoever. And that is no disrespect at all to the poor girl who was brutally murdered.  May she rest in peace.
Report jollyswagman August 21, 2023 9:03 PM BST
terms of reference for the review of the ccrc handling of the case, report to be in by 24/10. hopefully not a whitewash.

https://cloud-platform-e218f50a4812967ba1215eaecede923f.s3.amazonaws.com/upl...
Report lapsy pa June 6, 2024 9:31 PM BST
On BBC2 atm, no doubt will be on the player as well.

Fair play to the man, he never buckled.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 6, 2024 11:01 PM BST
So sad to see him struggling.

Brilliant people who helped him, and still do.
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