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Report casemoney August 22, 2023 3:51 PM BST
Have you any idea what happened in Dolphin Square?

As far as I am aware fook all happened there , Some pedo geezer got a nice few quid to buy a Mustang for making Stories up , all fully Backed by a Labour MP

Named WATSON .
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 3:52 PM BST
You know nothing then!
Report casemoney August 22, 2023 3:53 PM BST
Wasn't hard either he Just made up another Email Address  ,Managed to destroy a lot of Peoples Lives while he was at it
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 3:53 PM BST
Police Officer jailed today for multiple rapes. 16 years + 8 on licence!

Try and find out what mosque he went to case!
Report casemoney August 22, 2023 3:54 PM BST
Such as ?  It was a scam WD ,the geezer is in prison , Or was
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 3:55 PM BST
Wasn't hard either he Just made up another Email Address  ,Managed to destroy a lot of Peoples Lives while he was at it


You know nothing! There was a child sex ring with Judges, Military and MP's. They took boys from Children's Homes raped them and killed them!
Report saddo August 22, 2023 3:59 PM BST
Whisperingdeath 22 Aug 23 15:48

We are a great country with great people. We will defeat religion...theirs!

....................

Not in my lifetime or yours, I've been hearing that 'they'll integrate' line for over 50 years, in reality they've never been further apart.
Report casemoney August 22, 2023 4:01 PM BST
Well they didn't do it at Dolphin Square CARL BEECH  was talking a load of Shyte as in IT DID NOT HAPPEN  , Proved beyond Doubt .I actually believed Watson at the Time
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 4:08 PM BST
Nothing to do with Carl Beech! Look it up!
Report moisok August 22, 2023 4:30 PM BST
One thing we do know is they won't be integrating. The cult won't allow it-  if they try it is the old iron bar trick.
Clearly WD has never met one.
Report moisok August 22, 2023 4:31 PM BST
All wd wants to do is talk about anything but this atrocity and the conduct of the cult.  I wonder why?
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 4:37 PM BST
and all moisok wants to do is protect child molesters!

What a despicable human being!

You are so bitter and twisted you don't care that your " betters " molest children!

What sort of a man are you?

Divide and rule. tug and doff! You will have to face up to your crimes and I hope I am there when you get justice!
Report saddo August 22, 2023 4:44 PM BST
British-Pakistani researchers say 84% of grooming gang members are Asian: 'It's very important we talk about it'

An article from the Independent, hardly a racist publication. Considering the are only 6% of the population
the numbers are horrifying.
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 4:46 PM BST
I don't disagree saddo and also 1st cousin marriages are wrong!
Report saddo August 22, 2023 5:03 PM BST
But you do keep on repeating that they are no worse than other groups when it comes to child sex abuse. Statistically they are, by a mile.
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 5:05 PM BST
7 Apr 2015
Kincora historic VIP paedophile ring – shock revelations
A Kincora abuse victim from Northern Ireland has told Channel 4 News how he was also abused at London’s Elm Guest House and Dolphin Square at the hands of “very powerful people”.


Richard Kerr’s harrowing account of what happened to him as a boy links three of the most important alleged VIP paedophile ring locations for the first time – Dolphin Square, a luxury complex, popular with MPs and civil servants; Kincora Boy’s Home in Belfast, where boys were systematically abused and Elm Guest House, a former gay brothel where young children are also said to have been molested.

Last month Channel 4 News brought Mr Kerr to England from America, with his counsellor, to revisit his past. On being back in London for the first time, he tells reporter Cordelia Lynch he feels “very emotional, very painful. I’m scared.”

He was introduced to the world of Westminster as a teenager and has suffered for nearly 30 years in silence. His memories are vivid and distressing.

In an interview with Channel 4 News to be broadcast tonight at 7pm, Kerr insists a VIP paedophile ring did exist.

Kerr: "They were men who had control and power over others."

Reporter: "They were politicians you believe?"

Kerr: "Some, some I do."

Reporter: "Would you describe the activity as a paedophile ring?"

Kerr: "Oh, no question about that. Oh yes, definitely."

Reporter: "Why are you so convinced?"

Kerr: "Because of the people I was involved with. The boys were in groups. Even though we were spread across the tables and the way they set it up, the clients and locations."
Kerr was abused at the notorious Kincora boys’ home in Belfast in the 1970s. There he claims he and two other boys were hand-picked to be trafficked to London in 1977 and sexually abused by men.

Both of them he says have since taken their own lives.

Elm Guest House
At Elm Guest House in South London, Kerr describes to Channel 4 News how he faced his most violent experience.

Kerr: “I was tied up here. I do remember that. I don’t know why I was tied up but I was tied up. With my hands behind my back. I do remember that. They took photographs. Other men were here. Other men came into the room. It wasn’t just this one man. There were other men here.”

The guest house was raided by police in 1982 and it was reported officers found whips, chains and ropes.

Standing outside Elm Guest House, a visibly distraught Kerr tells Channel 4 News: “I don’t mean to be this way. It happened. I just don’t mean to be. It’s just holding on this sometimes. I can’t believe this happened. God help me.”

Dolphin Square
Kerr claims he was also taken by taxi to Dolphin Square in the heart of Westminster. It is now at the nexus of the Met Police’s Operation Midland which is also looking into alleged murders.

Kerr: “I could have been 16, 15, 17 … I remember going in with this guy. He told me to sit down and relax and explained about his glasses. He had Waterford Crystal and he wanted me to have a brandy and we had a small one. And then we had a sexual encounter in here.”

‘Some kind of cover-up’
“I’m still in some fear,” he says. “Even though I’m willing to take the courage.”

“I need to know that I can have faith in our government but right now, when they’re not willing to bring Kincora into Westminster, the message that sends to me, is that there’s some kind of cover-up and there has been.”

Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 5:06 PM BST
Why do you just go on about Pakistani's?

Who are you trying to protect saddo?

Is it only a crime when Pakistani's do it?

Do you think it is ok for English people to abuse children?
Report saddo August 22, 2023 5:14 PM BST
Deflect away. The numbers are undeniable. Who am I trying to protect? Well 1200 victims in Rotherham alone might have been protected had people in power not thought it more important to protect the image of Islam.
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 5:21 PM BST
Deflect?

Wtf ard you on about?

Do you think it is ok for English people to abuse children?
Report saddo August 22, 2023 5:30 PM BST
I don't think it is ok for anyone to abuse children. But if 6% of the population carry out 84% of a crime I don't pretend not to notice and bang on interminably about the other 94% of the population being as bad, they are not.
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 5:49 PM BST
6% of the population?

State your facts! And sources!
Report jollyswagman August 22, 2023 6:13 PM BST
saddo what proportion of child sexual abuse is of the grooming/gang variety?
Report saddo August 22, 2023 6:20 PM BST
6% of the population?

State your facts! And sources!

....................

According to the 2021 United Kingdom census, Muslims in England and Wales enumerated 3,868,133, or 6.5% of the population. According to recent projections the Muslim population in the UK in the year 2050 is likely to number around 13 million.
Report nineteen points August 22, 2023 6:28 PM BST
what are the figures if you reverse the countries and folk involved?
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2023 8:29 PM BST
6% of the population carry out 84% of a crime

That is what you said!

What let vantage of that 3,868,133 committed a crime Einstein?

Are you now saying all Muslims are criminals or just making it up as you go on?
Report casemoney August 22, 2023 9:01 PM BST
Det Supt Mark Chapman said Sara Sharif's family were known to Surrey Police officers for "some years".

May have been a child protection order in place, or a safeguarding concern madePlain.
Report casemoney August 23, 2023 2:15 PM BST
Uncle rounded up in Pakistan , says she fell down the Stairs and Broke her Neck

He forgot to add 6 times
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2023 2:21 PM BST
Filthy scum. They should hand them to the  Taliban and let the mothers family seek justice of child killers the Taliban way!
Report saddo August 23, 2023 2:34 PM BST
MailOnline reported that another of Sharif’s brothers, Imran, had been detained by police, with authorities “convinced” he knows of the family’s whereabouts. He is being interrogated by Pakistan’s Federal Investigation Agency.

“We spoke to Imran and some of the family members last week and they insisted that they did not know where Urfan and his family are,” a police source said. “But we don’t believe them; there’s absolutely no way that they can’t know where eight of their relatives who have come from England are. They are telling us a pack of lies.

“We managed to get hold of Imran, but the rest of his family have gone missing. They clearly have something to hide. We have got hold of one of them and will be interrogating him until he tells us the truth.”


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They don't mess about over there. Oddly enough Mirpur is mentioned as a hiding place, that is where a large majority of the UK groomers hail from.
Report nineteen points August 23, 2023 2:35 PM BST
is there many white british groomers over there?
Report saddo August 23, 2023 2:56 PM BST
I doubt it, UK paedos used to favour Sri Lanka a long time ago, who knows where they hang out now.
Report casemoney August 23, 2023 3:14 PM BST
Hopefully the Pakistani Law enforcement Have dealt with the Uncle in the Correct matter Grin
Report casemoney August 23, 2023 3:14 PM BST
Manner ,sorry
Report saddo August 23, 2023 3:17 PM BST
It's a different uncle, case. They're raiding the homes of extended family, most of em have scarpered.
Report casemoney August 23, 2023 3:30 PM BST
Ok sorry,didn't realise that .Would imagine there will be Batons and Skulls meeting each other During the Raids
Report impossible123 August 23, 2023 5:29 PM BST
Have the 3 coward bastards been located? Or have the managed to vanished into thin air in that 3rd world country?
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2023 5:37 PM BST
You think out 1st World Police Force is better than theirs?

How many Police Officers if OURS have been jailed for rape just this year?

Did any of them come from Mirpur?

Are we a country of Rapists?
Report impossible123 August 23, 2023 5:40 PM BST
South Asians integrate? That's akin to pro and anti abortionists attending the same party to celebrate the life of God. Just look what happened in Uganda, Kenya and soon to be Fiji. The Asians have been kicked-out for monopolising the wealth, security and political power of the country.

Anyone remember the Asian political turd in East London? The bloke was kicked-out of the Labour Party for financial corruption and political fraud ie he **** the votes.
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2023 5:42 PM BST
So is that a yes?

We are a country of rapists?
Report impossible123 August 23, 2023 5:45 PM BST
Is **** a forbidden word here? God helps us, if so.
Report impossible123 August 23, 2023 5:46 PM BST
Is ****........a forbidden word?
Report impossible123 August 23, 2023 5:47 PM BST
The bloke was found guilty of massaging votes to suit himself.
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2023 5:51 PM BST
Maybe we are Third World now impossible123?

Maybe we should not be giving our hard earned tax to single mothers with loose elastic?
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2023 5:52 PM BST
Maybe put those single mothers and their bastardised in a cruise ship so they don’t get knocked up again?
Report casemoney August 23, 2023 10:47 PM BST
Kid attended School with Bruises and Cuts , was then Withdrawn from the School .What wakes these people up in the Morning because it cannot be alarm clock
Report nineteen points August 24, 2023 12:07 PM BST
maybe some folk were frightened to say anything about abuse because of the father being pakistani?
Report impossible123 August 24, 2023 5:10 PM BST
When they are caught (they will be otherwise Pakistan could be a pariah state) I'd like to see them hang or flog till death for the murder of the young girl. Until then I'd like them to pay for their "lodging" at HMPs.

These are animals (not humans) hiding behind a culture when it suits. These people will never be batting for their host country the UK, or any Western country; they are like chameleons changing their tune for personal gain.
Report Whisperingdeath August 24, 2023 5:11 PM BST
So do you agree with me Impossible and they should be handed over to the Taliban and the Mothers family can dispense justice?
Report Whisperingdeath August 24, 2023 5:13 PM BST
Whips, sticks, crane, flatbed, football stadium, crowd, machine gun, victims family.

That is civilised and what should happen to child killers imho!
Report saddo August 24, 2023 5:53 PM BST
Some rather visceral fantasies going on here. I'm sure our Gov would like to leave em to the Pakistanis for 'the sake of social cohesion'. Unfortunately they'll be sent back here and our media can have a field day with em.
Report Whisperingdeath August 24, 2023 5:56 PM BST
Like I said hand them to the Taliban to dispense justice. Problem solved! Money saved!
Report impossible123 August 24, 2023 8:51 PM BST
I'd issue the absconders eg the father of the dead child with an ultimatum eg seize their Surrey home (council or private) if not back within a month; if it's a private property sell it and the proceed use to pay for the murder enquiry.

If Bin Laden could hide for 7 years "undetected" in Pakistan these 3 absconders would have a good chance of lasting as long given the corruption, state of their judicial system and culture there.

The 3 absconders left a child that died in suspicious circumstance do not deserve any mercy or respect from the law.
Report saddo August 24, 2023 8:58 PM BST
I doubt they'll come running back and face murder charges to save a council house tbh.
Report Whisperingdeath August 24, 2023 9:15 PM BST
Laugh

That’s the “ logic “ we are dealing with here

We have untold Police Officers in our jails for rape and impossible wants to Chuck an insult at Pakistan’s Judicial System and culture!

Our culture of course is far superior with the likes of

Beverley Allitt

Harold Shipman

and

Lucy Letby
Report impossible123 August 24, 2023 10:31 PM BST
I'd not think so either. At least a scarce commodity could be used by another family, if so. I hope if he's not born here he'll be deported post the serving of his sentence. He'll be sentenced in with or without him; he'd merely be postponing his sentence.
Report impossible123 September 1, 2023 1:34 PM BST
The barstewards are still not found despite over 3 weeks since the body of the little girl was found. And, the uncle (or family) of her barsteward father instead of persuading his brother to give himself up and report to the police this uncle has been bleating about being detained unlawfully by the Pakistani police.

Of course, this uncle (or family member) knows where his fugitive brother is. This family/breed has no shame or responsibility or understanding and respecting the rule of law concerning a murder enquiry of a little girl. Their no 1 priority is self-preservation regardless.
Report Whisperingdeath September 1, 2023 1:49 PM BST
I have more faith in the Pakistani Police than our Rapist Police.

They will find the scumbag. They probably have him already and are just waiting for payment
Report impossible123 September 6, 2023 2:52 PM BST
Has anyone seen the video posted by the absconding fugitives in Pakistan today on BBC News? The murdered young girl name was only mentioned once in its entirety. The rest was about how the absconding murder suspects feared for their "own" lives at the hands of the Pakistani police; the murdered girl's father sat expressionless and motionless.

The biological mum of the dead girl spoke for the 1st time to BBC News. She said she'd barely recognise her own daughter with the bruises on her tiny face, and body.
Report saddo September 6, 2023 3:21 PM BST
Giving airtime to killers so they can claim their family are being victimised, only the BBC.
Report peckerdunne September 6, 2023 3:25 PM BST
Has it been asked before, I'm asking why a child so young is on telly in a photo that has her so sexualised, or done up like a tart if you prefer.

I know young girls play make up etc, this is not that.
Report Whisperingdeath September 6, 2023 3:58 PM BST
I think the best justice for Sara would be to ensure her parents lived out the rest of their natural lives in Pakistan!

Pskistan time must be harder than jail time

No 3 square

No warm bed and central heating

No sky sports

No gym

No library

No waste of tax payer money

Although personally I would rather them handed over to the Taliban and the real fathers family for real justice
Report impossible123 September 11, 2023 9:43 PM BST
They are still not found yet. The Pakistani police must be doing one helluva job; only 3 adults plus 4 kids. I'd have thought they'd stand out like a sore thumb in a village in Pakistan.
Report impossible123 September 11, 2023 10:07 PM BST
Latest Update (1hr ago).

The 5 children who travelled from England with their fugitive father had been with their grandfather all along since they arrived from England. The grandfather complained about harassment and unlawful detention on his other sons by Pakistan police, but did not choose to tell the police his grandchildren were with him. He said "no one asked him about the children".

How absurd was that? Did it not occur to him to tell the Pakistani police the children were with him?

A typical Asian version of the truth.
Report Whisperingdeath September 12, 2023 12:32 AM BST
Yep maybe they learnt how to lie from Perfidious Albion.

Perhaps we should have sent some of our honest Policemen over to hell with enquiries
Report irishone September 12, 2023 8:45 AM BST
they wont be able to touch them

if they claim asylum in pakistan

having escaped religious persecution in the uk
Report impossible123 September 12, 2023 9:44 AM BST
They absconded to Pakistan leaving a dead child behind. And, during the height of the Covid pandemic Pakistan was a country of choice too to "evade" Covid. When Pakistan was gripped with Covid the same ones complained the British government did not do their utmost to "repatriate" them (British citizens) from Pakistan. They even accused the British government of discrimination and irresponsibility.

What a charming lot!
Report saddo September 12, 2023 9:49 AM BST
WD manages to blame this country and our Police for the behaviour of these vermin. Grin
Report Whisperingdeath September 12, 2023 10:29 AM BST
Wrong as usual saddo

I am blaming our Police for being corrupt, useless and for having a large amount of Nonces in their ranks!

As impossible123 might say a typical version of the British reality we have to deal with.

What would yoh do with the murdering scumbags saddo? I have made my position clear. Try reading rather than shouting.

Would yoh have them extradited and put in a cushy jail with Sky TV, a library, a gym and a mental elf coach? All at our tax payer expense?

At least their Police are giving their family a hard time! What would ours do?
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 10:39 AM BST
A woman who was raped in Pakistan has
accused a police officer of raping her in a further attack
when she went to report the crime
Pakistans police have been under further scrutiny this year
after a wave of deadly shootings of suspects
Report Whisperingdeath September 12, 2023 10:43 AM BST
Wow are they like our Police then lfc?

Was she raped in a Police Station line the girl over here
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 10:54 AM BST
Protests spread across Pakistan in response to the
shooting of 14 year old Malala Yousafzai by a Taliban assassin
which left her fighting for her life
The 14 year old is widely known and respected for her work
promoting school for girls and denouncing the atrocities
committed by the taliban
Report Whisperingdeath September 12, 2023 10:56 AM BST
Do they strip search children in Pakistan like our Nonce Police do lfc?
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 11:34 AM BST
The Taliban have been going door to door killing and beheading people
and forcing girls as young as twelve into slavery and forced marriage
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 11:42 AM BST
You an admirer of the Taliban justice system wd?
Report Whisperingdeath September 12, 2023 12:55 PM BST
When it comes to child murderers lfc, YES!

Are you in favour of the way we treat child killers lfc?
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 1:23 PM BST
In Pakistan school attack Taliban kill 145,
mostly children

Yes I prefer our justice system to the Taliban
Vermin like that shouldn’t be trusted to decide anything

And yes  afraid wd we can’t necessarily trust even you to serve on a jury
given you are an admirer of the Taliban justice system ..
Report lfc1971 September 12, 2023 1:28 PM BST
Now America would be a better country to admire
If you are in favour of capital punishment for murder
That’s fine

Although we would still have the problem of someone
on the jury , maybe you making a mistake and hanging the wrong person ..just saying
Report casemoney September 12, 2023 3:10 PM BST
Very surprised they have not been Caught  , But looking for a couple with 5 children might Explain that

Lets hope the Grandfather was given a good kicking for not telling them he had the Kids
Report impossible123 September 12, 2023 4:21 PM BST
I'm not an ardent traveller. However, countries in the Far East eg China/Japan/S Korea/Taiwan/Hong Kong known for their economic might have very few Asians, why?  Similarly, the new EU member states eg Poland/Bulgaria/Ukraine/Estonia/Lithuania/etc. Even Australia and New Zealand, and most of the countries in Africa have minimal Asians compare to the UK.

Can anyone enlighten? Is it because of the language/custom/tradition or something else?
Report Whisperingdeath September 13, 2023 4:49 PM BST
Have you ever left your town impossible?

Is your dad, grandad and the scoutmaster the same person?

On the plus side or maybe not the scumbags are on their way back to Blighty. They know where their bread is buttered. I would rather leave them in Pakistan never to return.
Report saddo September 13, 2023 4:59 PM BST
'Sara's mother Olga Sharif and her husband separated in 2015 - and Sara, along with her older brother, lived with her until 2019, when a family court determined they should reside with their father.'


Oh dear. Sad
Report Whisperingdeath September 13, 2023 5:36 PM BST
Send the judge to Pakistan too!
Report impossible123 September 13, 2023 6:16 PM BST
Her Mother is Polish, correct? If so, I wonder why her children went to live with their dad.
Report Whisperingdeath September 13, 2023 7:19 PM BST
There are just some terrible people around. There is no sense in it.
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 9:00 PM BST
Hmmm , apologists for Pakistan and the taliban , and and other barbaric regimes
having the impudence to comment on England ..
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 9:02 PM BST
Poland or any other EU country ?
Have as little to do as possible with them … they cannot be trusted
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 9:04 PM BST
Britain obeys the law including eu and international law
On all these matters … others including Poland do not
Report lfc1971 September 13, 2023 9:10 PM BST
Now I can assure you .. you will not get any other
country in Europe or the world to obey the law or the international
convention on human rights , if you are British and citing the law ..and they
are from some other foreign **** hole .. ( every other country including Europe ) … fact
Report casemoney September 13, 2023 10:05 PM BST
Back in UK arrested ?
Report Whisperingdeath September 14, 2023 12:24 AM BST
Yes, 3 of them!

Jail here obviously better than living in Pakistan!
Report impossible123 September 14, 2023 11:04 PM BST
Finally! I think they had no where else to go in Pakistan. Even their families and relatives did not want them. Pakistan did not want them (bring shame to the country) esp the Pakistani police. How dare these child murder suspects alleged brutality against them by the Pakistani police?

I hope these child murder suspects are all locked-up in prison pending any hearing or investigation. I also hope no legal aid is accorded to any of them.

If found guilty for murder/manslaughter/child abuse/cruelty I hope they are all deported back to Pakistan post sentence.
Report casemoney September 15, 2023 1:13 PM BST
The father, stepmother and uncle of Sara Sharif have been charged with the murder of the 10-year-old girl, Surrey Police has said.

Filthy animals
Report impossible123 September 15, 2023 8:25 PM BST
Now, taxpayers have to pay for the trial. I hope none of them gets bail, not even the woman; leaving a dead young child and absconding is complicit to murder at least = custodial sentence in my book.
Report casemoney September 19, 2023 1:49 PM BST
Prob Refused to marry the Uncle ,Filth up in court this morning
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 19, 2023 7:03 PM BST
Charming Mother called the death of her daughter " An incident " !!

... No mention of the historical abuse and torture then, no worries  if the 3 get life, don't suppose Pakistan will want the skum back.
Report saddo September 19, 2023 7:18 PM BST
She's the stepmother glasgae, and I'm guessing she meant accident, she's not English.
Interesting theory case, why was he there and why was the young victim painted up in the photo.
Report impossible123 September 19, 2023 8:03 PM BST
The dead girl's stepmother spoke perfect English in that video when claiming to be afraid of the Pakistan Police whilst her "father" did not even utter a word. I believe that scumbag "father" speak English, and very possibly was born in the UK too.

If found guilty, I believe they ought to receive the death penalty by stoning.
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 20, 2023 12:25 AM BST
Yes OK, I mistook her for being the mother, but whether she meant accident or incident doesn't really matter as both are wrong imo.
Report impossible123 September 20, 2023 12:14 PM BST
A kiddo does not sustain bruises on the face and body accidentally for long periods unless from a sporting event or cycle fall; the kiddo was also known to social services.

I hope these 3 scumbags rot in jail. I also hope the remaining children will go to a foster home to ensure the same fate as their elder sister does not happen to them; a parent child abuser or murderer is like a leopard that does not change its spots.
Report Whisperingdeath September 20, 2023 12:21 PM BST
Yep J thinnn I’m they should be sent back to Pakistan for justice
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