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Report PorcupineorPineapple July 26, 2023 7:21 PM BST
Has he already got another bank account then?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 26, 2023 7:22 PM BST
Nat West shares down. We are all poorer.

Any disaster funds short them?
Report Cider July 26, 2023 8:00 PM BST

It has now been established beyond any reasonable doubt that Natwest Bank closed Nigel Farage’s bank accounts solely and entirely because some people working inside that organisation disagreed with Mr. Farage’s political views.

It is, of course, not a crime to disagree with Nigel Farage. It is a cinch that across the upper tiers of British and Irish society, the people who matter disagree with him on almost everything. But nor should his views be dismissed as they so often are: Across electoral tests ranging from the Brexit referendum to various EU elections, large swathes of the British public have spoken with their votes and said something that the upper tiers of Irish and British society are repelled by: We agree with Nigel.

What is democracy, at its very heart, if not the right to disagree fundamentally with those who hold the power in the society in which you live? The right to hold, and advocate for, unpopular and unfashionable things is absolutely fundamental to living in a country where you can choose your own rulers. And in Farage’s case, the things he has advocated for have proven stubbornly popular over the years.

Which is why, I’m nearly certain, he had to go from Natwest.

When he kicked up a stink about it initially, the reaction from most of the chattering classes on both sides of the Irish sea was a mixture of amusement and schadenfreude. Amusement, at the jumped up little fellow who thought he could bank with Coutts and probably didn’t have the money for it. Who did he think he was, Royalty?

And Schadenfreude, at the symbolic exclusion from polite society of a man they detest with every fibre of their being. It was heads we win, tails you lose: If Farage had been “debanked” for not having enough money, then what had he to complain about? And if he had been “debanked” for having the wrong sort of views well, proper order. The only proper attitude to Nigel Farage, as far as so-called polite society is concerned, is contempt.

Which is why we owe him a debt of gratitude. For the entirety of his career, he has worn that contempt as a badge of honour, and embraced it. And unlike many who share his views, he has been unwilling to make any compromises in order to be liked by the sort of people who despise the things he believes in. In this case, for example, the easier thing would undoubtedly have been to say nothing and find a new bank – but by refusing to go quietly, it has ended up being the Natwest CEO, Dame Allison Rose, who needs to find herself a new bank.

And the Farage row has won a victory not only for himself, but for others: Because if they can’t do it to Nigel Farage, the architect of Brexit and just about everything else that people like Fintan O’Toole consider to be pestilent, then it has become much harder to do it to any of the rest of us.

There is no doubt in my mind, for example, that had they gotten away with doing what they did to Nigel Farage, then just about anyone prominent who stubbornly hangs onto the view that men and women are born, not assigned, would have found themselves without a bank in short order. The same would be true of anyone in Ireland prominently associated with protests about immigration.

That, after all, is how society works now: The ruling liberal order is maintained through a strict regime of incentives and punishments. If you want to keep your job and your nice life, keep your mouth shut.

We owe Farage for challenging that, and preserving the very essence of what it is supposed to be to live in a free society: The right to say loudly and proudly, without fear of punishment, that the people who are ruling your country are buffoons.

And that goes right to the heart of the problem: Modern liberalism can withstand just about anything but mockery. It relies for survival on the notion that its adherents are very serious people who’ve thought about everything more deeply than you have: Hence that abundant phrase, when you dare disagree with one of them on a topic: Educate yourself.

The entire construct of modern western liberalism is that you are ruled by an educated, intelligent elite that simply knows more than you do: About the climate. About immigration. About sex education. About how many genders there are. When these things are debated seriously, the argument from authority is deployed early and often: The science says; experts agree; nobody serious believes.

Farage has always been hated precisely because he punctures that and appeals to something more enduring: The common wisdom of the ordinary person who knows that what they are hearing is nonsense, but lacks the confidence to argue with “experts agree”. That, above all, is why they hate him, and why they try to shut him up at every opportunity.

It is also why, as in this case, he keeps winning. Lest this sound like an homage, there are many things this writer differs from Farage on – Brexit being just one. But in Farage versus Natwest, as in so many things before, he has once again shown that his existence is something for which every true democrat should be thankful.

If they’d gotten away with doing this to him, the rest of us were next in line.
Report lux July 26, 2023 8:40 PM BST
Institutions as political enforcers. Classic fascism.
Report lux July 26, 2023 8:44 PM BST
The unwitting establishment megaphones butthurt at the ever so creeping realisation that the worldview that they espouse is the same as every Bank and every corporation.

Give em 20 years or so and they might even have caught up.
Report timbuctooth July 26, 2023 8:50 PM BST
Cider 26 Jul 23 19:00 
The origin of money is a very interest topic and concept. It facilitates the transfer of value, essentially. Very few of us own anything tangible that holds significant value, aside from property and cars. Any they are coming for the cars.

And your house!


This is how big Corps destroy the American dream! Blackrock is buying up US homes like there is no tomorrow

Homeownership has long been considered an important tool for building financial security and wealth, but it’s becoming more difficult for Americans to achieve. Younger generations are less likely to own a home than those from older generations, with millennials’ homeownership rate 8% lower than that of generation X and baby boomers at the same age.

If the rate had remained steady, about 3.4 million more people would own homes in the U.S. today but, instead, younger adults are increasingly choosing to either rent or live with their parents. There are a number of reasons why homeownership has become less attainable than it was decades ago, from rising debt in younger generations to increased cost of living.

A report by the Urban Institute found half those aged 18 to 34 were spending upward of 30% of their income on rent, making them “rent-burdened.” Meanwhile, median housing prices increased 28% in the last two years, pricing some out of the market. However, the shift is not all happenstance.

In the first quarter of 2021, 15% of U.S. homes sold were purchased by corporate investors — not families looking to achieve their American dream. While they’re competing with middle-class Americans for the homes, the average American has virtually no chance of winning a home over an investment firm, which may pay 20% to 50% over asking price, in cash, sometimes scooping up entire neighborhoods at once so they can turn them into rentals.

BlackRock is one of a number of companies mentioned by The Wall Street Journal in a recent exposé. “Yield-chasing investors are snapping up single-family homes, competing with ordinary Americans and driving up prices,” they warned. The question is, why would institutional investors and BlackRock, which manages assets worth $5.7 trillion, be interested in overpaying for modest, single family homes?

To understand the answer, you must look at BlackRock’s partners, which include the World Economic Forum (WEF), and their extreme political and financial clout. In a Twitter thread posted by user Culturalhusbandry, it’s noted:

If the average American is pushed out of the housing market, and most of the available housing is owned by investment groups and corporations, you become beholden to them as your landlord. This fulfills part of the Great Reset’s “new normal” dictum — the part where you will own nothing and be happy. This isn’t a conspiracy theory; it’s part of WEF’s 2030 agenda.

The unstated implication is that the world’s resources will be owned and controlled by the technocratic elite, and you’ll have to pay for the temporary use of absolutely everything. Nothing will actually belong to you, including your home. All items and resources are to be used by the collective, while actual ownership is restricted to an upper stratum of social class. The wealth transfer has already begun.

The New York Times and a majority of other legacy media are largely owned by BlackRock and the Vanguard Group, the two largest asset management firms in the world, which also control Big Pharma. And it doesn’t end there.

BlackRock and Vanguard are at the top of a pyramid that controls basically everything, but you don’t hear about their terrifying monopoly because they also own the media. You can watch all the details about BlackRock’s monopoly in this video, but Humans Are Free summed it up this way:

“The power of these two companies is beyond your imagination. Not only do they own a large part of the stocks of nearly all big companies but also the stocks of the investors in those companies. This gives them a complete monopoly. A Bloomberg report states that both these companies in the year 2028, together will have investments in the amount of 20 trillion dollars. That means that they will own almost everything.

Bloomberg calls BlackRock ‘The fourth branch of government,’ because it’s the only private agency that closely works with the central banks. BlackRock lends money to the central bank but it’s also the advisor. It also develops the software the central bank uses.

… BlackRock, itself is also owned by shareholders … The biggest shareholder is Vanguard … The elite who own Vanguard apparently do not like being in the spotlight but of course they cannot hide from who is willing to dig. Reports from Oxfam and Bloomberg say that 1% of the world, together owns more money than the other 99%.

Even worse, Oxfam says that 82% of all earned money in 2017 went to this 1%. In other words, these two investment companies, Vanguard and BlackRock hold a monopoly in all industries in the world and they, in turn are owned by the richest families in the world, some of whom are royalty and who have been very rich since before the Industrial Revolution.”

BlackRock may control the World’s Economic Future
To put this into perspective, BlackRock, an investment firm, has more power than most governments on Earth, and it also controls the Federal Reserve, Wall Street mega-banks like Goldman Sachs and the WEF’s Great Reset, according to F. William Engdahl, a strategic risk consultant and lecturer who holds a degree in politics from Princeton University.

Engdahl believes that, left unchecked, BlackRock will soon control the economic future of the world, and states, “BlackRock is the epitome of what Mussolini called Corporatism, where an unelected corporate elite dictates top down to the population.” For instance, three influential economic appointees of the current administration come from BlackRock.

“There is a definite pattern and suggests that the role of BlackRock in Washington is far larger than we are being told,” Engdahl says. The Campaign for Accountability also released a report in 2019 detailing how BlackRock “implemented a strategy of lobbying, campaign contributions, and revolving door hires to fight off government regulation and establish itself as one of the most powerful financial companies in the world.”

BlackRock founder and CEO Larry Fink also has close ties to WEF’s head Klaus Schwab, and joined WEF’s board in 2019. According to Engdahl:
“Fink … now stands positioned to use the huge weight of BlackRock to create what is potentially, if it doesn’t collapse before, the world’s largest Ponzi scam, ESG
[Environment, Social values and Governance] corporate investing. Fink with $9 trillion to leverage is pushing the greatest shift of capital in history into a scam known as ESG Investing.

The UN ‘sustainable economy’ agenda is being realized quietly by the very same global banks which created the financial crises in 2008. This time they are preparing the Klaus Schwab WEF Great Reset by steering hundreds of billions and soon trillions in investment to their hand-picked ‘woke’ companies, and away from the ‘not woke’ such as oil and gas companies or coal.

… Oil companies like ExxonMobil or coal companies, no matter how clean, are doomed as Fink and friends now promote their financial Great Reset or Green New Deal … And we can expect that the New York Times will cheer BlackRock on as it destroys the world financial structures.

Another giant private equity firm, Blackstone, is also deeply entrenched in U.S. real estate. Blackstone is the largest landlord in the U.S. as well as the largest real estate company worldwide, with a portfolio worth $325 billion. In June 2021, Blackstone agreed to buy Home Partners of America, a company that rents single-family houses, and its 17,000 houses, for $6 billion.

Blackstone and BlackRock sound alike for a reason. Blackstone’s co-founder, billionaire Steve Schwarzman, said during an interview on Squawk Box that he and Fink “started in business together. We put up the initial capital.” BlackRock used to be called Blackstone Financial, but Fink went off on his own. Schwarzman said, “Larry and I were sitting down and he said, ‘What do you think sort of about having a family name with ‘black’ in it,’” and BlackRock was born.

Blackstone became notorious for swooping in after the housing bubble burst and buying tens of thousands of homes at deeply discounted prices. They then turned them into single-family rentals, taking advantage of the recession.

In 2017, Bloomberg reported: “Blackstone built its rental-home business with an advantage few if any other buyers could match: billions of dollars in credit from large banks. Its Invitation Homes subsidiary quickly became the largest single-family home landlord in the U.S., with 50,000 properties. Altogether, hedge funds, private-equity firms and real estate investment trusts have raised about $20 billion to purchase as many as 200,000 homes to rent.”

Now, with many struggling due to yearlong business shutdowns and lockdowns, and home prices rising, many Americans are having difficulty finding affordable single-family homes to buy.

BlackRock owns your house, Gates owns your farmland
Both BlackRock CEO Fink and Bill Gates are pushing for “net zero” carbon emissions. But as BlackRock is busy buying up houses, Gates is hard at work amassing farmland and is now the largest owner of farmland in the U.S.

By 2030, Gates is pushing for drastic, fundamental changes, including widespread consumption of fake meat, adoption of next generation nuclear energy and growth of a fungus as a new type of nutritional protein. The deadline Gates has given to reach net zero emissions is 2050, likely because he wants to realize his global vision during his lifetime.

But according to Vandana Shiva, in order to force the world to accept this new food and agricultural system, new conditionalities are being created through net zero “nature-based” solutions.

Navdanya’s report, “Earth Democracy: Connecting Rights of Mother Earth to Human Rights and Well-Being of All,” explains: “If ‘feeding the world’ through chemicals and dwarf varieties bred for chemicals was the false narrative created to impose the Green Revolution, the new false narrative is ‘sustainability’ and ‘saving the planet.’ In the new ‘net zero’ world, farmers will not be respected and rewarded as custodians of the land and caregivers, as Annadatas, the providers of our food and health.

… ‘Net Zero’ is a new strategy to get rid of small farmers in first through ‘digital farming’ and ‘farming without farmers’ and then through the burden of fake carbon accounting.

Carbon offsets and the new accounting trick of ‘net zero’ does not mean zero emissions. It means the rich polluters will continue to pollute and also grab the land and resources of those who have not polluted — indigenous people and small farmers — for carbon offsets.”

Ultimately, we’re heading for a new wave of colonization in the name of sustainability and net zero carbon emissions. The solutions are complex. Some have suggested that one solution is to make building homes less expensive, so that new construction homes become less expensive. This, in turn, would drive down the cost of existing homes.

The video at the top of this article goes into detail about another solution: ending the Federal Reserve, to stop the central planning of our money supply and interest rates, which are artificially suppressed in a way that is most taken advantage of by the top 1%, contributing to growing wealth inequality.

This engineered pandemic has catalyzed the transfer of wealth to the rich and, while the major players pushing for the Great Reset are still emerging, BlackRock and Blackstone are names to keep your eye on.

The media-fueled dividing lines of race, religion, past-colonization, gender and sexual orientation are meant to divide and distract the average person from the real sources of oppression and inequality in our world today – namely companies like Blackrock and Vanguard – who are seeking to eventually bring about a new form of feudalism where they own everything and the average person owns nothing.

Report PorcupineorPineapple July 26, 2023 9:19 PM BST
Reckon when we look back on this era and talk about gaslighting this story will be exhibit #1.

Quite extraordinary lengths gone to just to misrepresent the truth and play the victim.
Report irishone July 26, 2023 10:11 PM BST
lux • July 26, 2023 8:40 PM BST
Institutions as political enforcers. Classic fascism.

spot on
Report alun2005 July 27, 2023 9:33 AM BST
Ye Gods, the Labour Shadow Chancellor supported the disgraced Dame Rose before the Exit door was belatedly opened. 

Hang your head in shame Reeves.


Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 10:42 AM BST
What did she say that you find so shameful?
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 10:49 AM BST
Just read something that got me thinking.

So the Farage fanboys keep sticking to the line that he was relegated due to his views rather than his balance. They're wrong but that's their line.

But as the dossier presents, the bank's opinion is that he is very firmly a racist and an antisemite. There are literally pages and pages of evidence of these traits.

So why should the bank let him be a customer?

If someone's a racist at the footy they're kicked out and banned from coming back. Same if you're in a pub being racist. Why is it so important that some places ban racism but some others are forced to accept it against their will?
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 11:01 AM BST
Meanwhile, in "the real stuff going on while the useful idiots do their masters' bidding":

- GB News owner takes out short position on NatWest stock

- Uses his news channel to whip up outrage over the bank's handling of one of its presenters

- Stock falls by £850 million

- Exits the trade.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 11:24 AM BST
Exits because he's been told by sunak
no more will be sacked?
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:24 AM BST
Has Farage ever behaved like a racist in the bank ?
( not that he is one )

I’m beginning to think pp is not very intelligent
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 11:26 AM BST
40 page dossier suggests bank are
well aware of his behaviour.

Farrage published it himself, how silly
is that.
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:32 AM BST
The dossier was full of lies and smeers and foul abusive language
about Farage .. that’s what we do know
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 11:34 AM BST
Ok then. Point out a lie in it please. Which bit of evidence was fabricated?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 11:36 AM BST
Why would he publish it as the reasons
he was shut down?

He seemed happy it was all true.

No claim any of it was false, he seems quite
proud of it.
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:36 AM BST
All those involved in that whole debacle have
revealed themselves to be pretty disreputable  and sordid people
Report flat16 July 27, 2023 11:38 AM BST
PP: for all Mr Farages' obvious faults...........antisemite is the most unlikely and ridiculous.
The left and especially the far left ,near communist left ,has proved time and time again  that they are exclusively the antisemites ,remember that sweet little cartoon in your beloved Guardian.
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:38 AM BST
yhtl it can be untrue , and they use it to close his account …and he can publish it
Basic logic
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:41 AM BST
There’s not one of the board or those involved
in drawing up this dossier who is a fit and proper person
to work in a bank .. at any level from the most humble cashier up
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 11:42 AM BST
He would have said if it was untrue

He did not.
Report lfc1971 July 27, 2023 11:44 AM BST
They’re not fit to clean the offices - and I mean that
They could not be trusted
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 11:53 AM BST
What makes you say that?

Farrage seems to think it's all true
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 12:04 PM BST
Antisemite flat.

Not my words. The words of Coutts. They don't feel they should be going out of their way to do business with an antisemite when his finances drop and he might cost them money each year.

Do you think businesses should be forced to carry on doing business with known antisemites flat?
Report flat16 July 27, 2023 2:22 PM BST
I never owned or controlled a large organisation and in my relatively small ventures I was able to and would refuse to provide services or do business with..........right or left wing extremists ,religious zealots and of course lawyers.
I would certainly not entertain the antisemites found typically among Corbinites/Guardianistas/Socialist workers party etc
Report casemoney July 27, 2023 2:36 PM BST
Another golden handshake to be made

The boss of Coutts, the prestigious private bank for the wealthy, has stepped down over the handling of Nigel Farage's bank account closure.

Peter Flavel will leave as chief executive of Coutts by mutual consent with immediate effect.

He said the handling of Mr Farage's case had "fallen below the bank's high standards of personal service".
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 2:40 PM BST
Ok, so you're in the minority on the right of agreeing that the bank would be within its rights to refuse his business based on his unsavoury and very public opinions.

Report casemoney July 27, 2023 2:44 PM BST
The only thing a bank should be Interested in , Is your Credit score and that you are not Money laundering IMVHO
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 2:50 PM BST
I agree mostly.

But those are the banks for you and me. Not the ones for the elites and establishment which expect a certain type of clientele and have strict rules upon how rich someone must be to bank with them.

I'd personally legislate that all regulated banks must abandon those rules and the establishment should rub shoulder with the Chads, Ians and Nigels of the world. Same way I'd break the distance between public and private schools. Make a it a fair playing field.

I know some people are against that and want to protect their private schools and establishment banks, but I'm sure you'd agree they're out of step with most of the British public and are more interested in themselves and their polo-playing pals rather than the good of the working man and woman.
Report alun2005 July 27, 2023 2:52 PM BST
The completely non-existent threat to the bank's "reputation" posed by having Mr F as a customer (and making ludicrous allegations about him in a catastrophic "dossier" for good measure), doesn't appear to be going too well.

Two CEOs gone and share price tumbled.

What a price for trying to look "woke".   

You can bet your last dollar though that the Woke Progressive Left will even now be defending the utter stupidity of the bankers.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 27, 2023 3:16 PM BST
They weren't trying to look woke. They were trying to look elite.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2023 3:18 PM BST
Heaven forbid the bank got accussed of money
laundering and shut down.

Should the public own such a large share in
this elitist bank?

Why don't we sell it off to somebody that can
assett strip it?
Report Cider July 27, 2023 4:18 PM BST
NatWest fined £264.8 million for anti-money laundering failures

Press Releases First published: 13/12/2021 Last updated: 13/12/2021

National Westminster Bank Plc (NatWest) was today fined £264,772,619.95 following convictions for three offences of failing to comply with money laundering regulations.

Mrs Justice Cockerill, the sentencing judge at Southwark Crown Court, today said: '….it must be borne in mind that although in no way complicit in the money laundering which took place, the Bank was functionally vital. Without the Bank – and without the Bank’s failures - the money could not be effectively laundered.'

NatWest pleaded guilty at Westminster Magistrates Court on 7 October. This is the first time the FCA has pursued criminal charges for money laundering failings.

The charges covered NatWest’s failure to properly monitor the activity of a commercial customer, Fowler Oldfield, a jewellery business based in Bradford, between 8 November 2012 to 23 June 2016. When taking on the customer, NatWest initially understood it would not handle cash from the Fowler Oldfield business. However, over the course of the customer relationship approximately £365m was deposited with the bank, of which around £264m was in cash.

Report moisok July 27, 2023 6:09 PM BST
But but but ....... there are quite a lot who have reported accounts being closed WITHOUT any explanation.  just saying.
Report Whisperingdeath July 27, 2023 6:24 PM BST
A bloke has been in prison for17 years and had his conviction quashed yesterday after a terrible miscarriage of justice. He spent 10 of those years in jail because he would not lie.

What do we have here...... but but but.... a week of 24/7 news coverage of a BMW who had his bank account closed

We had a Banker on £5.5 million odd getting a Golden F.O.

Who cares about justice in England?
Report Cider July 27, 2023 7:43 PM BST
You're too warped to get it. You can be kicked out of the financial system for holding legal opinions. ffs. It's not about Farage or C***ts.

Do you have any idea what that means. A glide path to total suppression. And yes, dorks will throw back at you that you're a tin hat conspiracy theorist. Until you tell them that you were mandated by law to stay in your house, and only permitted to leave for one hour, for food shopping or exercise. So what happens when the threat of non compliance is being thrown out of the financial system when it is fully cashless.

There will always be bent coppers an innocent people doing time, as abhorrent as that may be.
Report alun2005 July 27, 2023 8:01 PM BST
PorcupineorPineapple • July 27, 2023 3:16 PM BST

They weren't trying to look woke. They were trying to look elite.

How on earth could this customer of nearly 20 years have ever thought that that NW could have been trying to be “woke”?

Well, here’s just a sample of the “Progressive” and "woke" lunacy I’ve watched them inflict :

1. Pledging to fill senior roles by colour as oppose to some old-fashioned nonsense called “competence”, “merit” and "relevant experience".  A policy totally ripe for disaster.


2.  Pledging to fund “private non-surgical hormone treatment for its transgender members of staff in a bid to make the bank a more inclusive employer”.  In other words, to perpetuate the fantasy that men can be women and vice-versa. I call that “cruelty” myself. 


3. “We’re having big serious conversations about Black History Month and Black Lives Matter. And we haven’t forgotten Pronouns either. We’re so bloody righteous and important we are”.


4. “Men can be women, women can be men at our bank. And they can change on any given day. My God, we’re so woke. We might even let Doris the cleaner be a zebra next week. She's a rhino right now". 



THIS is the sort of drivel that has been remoselessly prioritised at the NW. And that’s just the ones off the top of my head. 

Client Confidentiality however clearly isn't a priority if the top brass felt able to have meetings with an alleged ‘Journalist’ about account holders. And the "dossier" published about Farage was a truly worrying sign that a supposedly mature professional banking operation could cobble together content so absurd.

I cannot imagine ANY sane bank account holder believes that support for “Transgenderism”, employing on racial criteria and/or agonising about pronouns is of ANY priority for a bank.

Personally I think it's time to de-customer them. I have to wonder whether my money is safe in an organisation run on these lines. The current account balance has been reduced down to £1. When the savings account matures that lump will be heading elsewhere.

They weren't trying to look woke.

Report irishone July 27, 2023 8:36 PM BST
no fecker behind the jump now days
so imagine a load of dustbin men
going in there to cash their wage checks
like they used to 45 years ago
not a good image so the manager
told them to go round the side entrance
banks have been doing it for years
how come local gaa supermen
get jobs in banks over here ?
Report flat16 July 28, 2023 6:30 AM BST
Nat west wokery: this has all come about because the "diversity ,equity and inclusion crew" wokists ,purchase a online summary of certain clients off nothing more than a gossip line run by lefties ,then go all judgemental and consider reputation and implications for the bank.
Damn Alison Rose had also expressed bank policy on lending would kick in to deny the "oil and gas exploration" sector ,along with other bankers and also insurers.
This ideological wokery stuck in a warm lighted office ,fails to understand that on a dark foggy day in December ,we have 8 hours of "daylight" ,no sun ,no wind and freezing temp's,relying on French electric and Norwegian gas as now, is just as stupid and ecologically unsound.
Every big organisation has this lefty remainer "group speak" and the young progressive "box ticker" but in this particular case the monkey took over and the organ grinder fcked off.
Consider this scenario to the power of 3 ,next time you suggest "nationalisation",they have the BBC ,civil service ,NHS,NT etc etc ,all remarkable success stories NOT.
Report irishone July 28, 2023 7:18 AM BST
£3.5 billion made last year , 1 billion in taxes
Report irishone July 28, 2023 7:19 AM BST
Mug Britain
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 28, 2023 9:21 AM BST
It's quite simple kids. I'll repeat it for the thousandth time. If just one of you ostriches gets it then it'll be worthwhile.

If it was about Farage's racism and antisemitism they wouldn't have dealt with him in the first place or would have kicked him out years ago.

They were more than happy to turn a blind eye and keep on doing business with him. Couldn't care less as long as the money kept on coming in. They literally cite the attitudes of other customers of theirs which might be unsavoury. They just don't care. They are only interested in money.

And then, this spring he paid off his mortgage and so the interest payments evaporated. Other customers had cushy balances in their current account but Farage didn't.

Therefore, by their strict rules he no longer qualified for an account. They may have carried on doing business if the kudos of having him outweighed the cost but - as the dossier shows - it didn't.

And so they gave him the bad news that he'd have to bank with the plebs.

That's it. Read the dossier. Stick to the facts, not what the commentators are trying to make you believe. You are literally an open goal for gaslighting and being conned.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 28, 2023 9:43 AM BST
When is Farage going to apologise for all his Brexit lies?
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 28, 2023 10:14 AM BST
I'm still interested in all these other banks who didn't want his business. Why has that gone oh so quiet.

Irony being that it's now gone full circle. After what's happened in the last week, what bank would want to take his business. CEO is basically a hostage, knowing he can't offer him terms below those for the elites, knowing Farage will have a strop, call his mates in Parliament and won't let up till he's out of a job.

Thanks but no thanks.
Report SirNorbertClarke July 28, 2023 11:54 AM BST
Surprised Farage hasn't approached BNP
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 1:41 PM BST
Any more grifters going to be sacked in disgrace ?

The wokes start it .. Nigel ends it Grin
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 28, 2023 1:54 PM BST
Cause, 'cause, 'cause I remember when we used to sit
In the government yard in Trenchtown
Oba, observing the hypocrites, yeah
Mingle with the good people we meet, yeah
Good friends we have had, oh good friends we've lost along the way, yeah
In this bright future you can't forget your past
So dry your tears I say, yeah

No woman, no cry
No woman, no cry, eh, yeah
Little darling don't shed no tears
No woman, no cry
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 2:06 PM BST
Old pirates yes they rob i
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the almighty

Of course the woke plebs won’t understand
That this is a reference to Jacob .. and Israel
And Yahweh , and Christ
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 2:06 PM BST
Old pirates yes they rob i
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the almighty

Of course the woke plebs won’t understand
That this is a reference to Jacob .. and Israel
And Yahweh , and Christ
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 28, 2023 2:25 PM BST
He referencing Marcus garvey, and reflecting
on his cancer diagnosis.

It's a lovely song.
Report irishone July 28, 2023 2:34 PM BST
great song
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 2:46 PM BST
I know he’s referencing Jamaica , and Marcus Garvey

And he is referencing Jacob … and Christ
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 2:54 PM BST
First heard that song when a friend from school ( when we were
meant to be revising for ‘O Levels ‘ in April , May ? So didn’t have to go to school
And a few of us went to his house instead both parents out working .. unusual for that time
And played darts .. and he put on a record by Bob Marley and said listen to this . ..

We all passed our exams Cool
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 2:56 PM BST
Beautiful song … it’s a reference to Israel and Christ
Report irishone July 28, 2023 2:58 PM BST
keep w4nking over farage and you will go blind....mind you are probably that already
Report lfc1971 July 28, 2023 3:03 PM BST
^ he’s from south Ireland
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 28, 2023 3:22 PM BST
Just saw a gbeebies clip with NF interviewing the wife of a Russian oligarch moaning about her bank account being closed.

Coming on the back of Lebedev's statements, the mask really is slipping here isn't it.
Report irishone July 28, 2023 3:23 PM BST
Spot on
Report alun2005 July 29, 2023 1:09 PM BST
Well, well, well. Wouldn't you just know it. 

Another well-known political person, hitherto much admired by the Progressive Left and Remainers, has also reportedly lost a bank account, allegedly "without explanation".

A BBC report below has offered an "explanation" but in the light of their appalling reporting of the Coutts/NatWest/Farage scandal, who knows whether that can ever be a trusted source. 

Can't wait to hear the same morons who cheered on the indefensible Coutts/NatWest now howl with outrage at this turn of events.


Report dave1357 July 29, 2023 1:17 PM BST
As I have said at least twice, banks simply aren't going to allow "political" organisations to have accounts that are getting cash donations from randoms because of the additional costs to mitigate the risks of money laundering.

Just like PEPs there is always going to be an issue, until the FCA says that they have to manage these accounts, even if they are unprofitable.
Report casemoney July 29, 2023 1:43 PM BST
I wonder who the Likes of Choudary and other terrorist Types Bank with ?
Report Cider July 29, 2023 2:01 PM BST
Dale Vince has admitted to giving the just stop freaks £300K. How do you suppose that the uk banking system is facilitating the operations of the likes of just stop freaks, dave? They must be recycling millions.
Report alun2005 July 29, 2023 2:08 PM BST
I wonder who the Likes of Choudary and other terrorist Types Bank with ?


Not that long ago the High Street banks were absurdly trying to out-do each other in their pitful attempts to offer bank accounts that were the most compliant with Sharia Law.

Of course, not a single penny in Sharia Law-compliant bank accounts would ever ever ever hold money intended to finance Islamic Terrorism. Perish the thought. Couldn't conceivably happen.

Looks like a few of the banks have evidently had a bit of re-think since, and tragically some of the accounts are no longer available.



Of course, not everyone amongst this special banking community were happy their own accounts got closed down.

Report moisok July 29, 2023 2:12 PM BST
but the book guys have their own banks
Report dave1357 July 29, 2023 2:32 PM BST
Cider • July 29, 2023 2:01 PM BST
Dale Vince has admitted to giving the just stop freaks £300K. How do you suppose that the uk banking system is facilitating the operations of the likes of just stop freaks, dave? They must be recycling millions.

I doubt you know what the financial arrangements of that organisations are or the management of the £300k donation, if it occurred.

What we do know is that farage was debanked, Gina Miller's party was debanked and PEPs are being debanked. So for once can't you stay on topic, rather than spouting bile and thinly veiled conspiracy theories.
Report Cider July 29, 2023 2:37 PM BST
Obviously I don't, unless there is a friendly banking CEO to fill me in over dinner.

What we do know is that Dale Vince has publicly confirmed that he has given that amount of money to the just stop freaks via a regular UK bank account. And we do know what they have been doing with it.
Report Cider July 29, 2023 2:39 PM BST
They are not however, seemingly able to recover the £billions of fraud that took place with the treasury's covid giveaway.
Report lfc1971 July 29, 2023 2:40 PM BST
Gina Miller wasn’t de-banked
Report Cider July 29, 2023 2:41 PM BST
yes the Miller story is a red herring
Report lfc1971 July 29, 2023 3:09 PM BST
Yes they’re throwing up dust again
Not sure -has any politician or ex politician had their account
closed .. apart from  Farage ?
Report moisok July 29, 2023 3:43 PM BST
ALL part of the control agenda.  Cameras spring up all around london - we are fenced in. I wonder what his imam has been telling the little man?
Report lux July 29, 2023 7:17 PM BST
"All the fuss about the 'debanking' of Nigel Farage in 2023 is missing a key point:

The entire UK banking system debanked not just me but an entire political party, way back in 2000.

All of about 100 BNP bank accounts were closed in the space of 2 weeks, with every bank joining in. The party was left with just one account, which was run by a state asset who later went on to play a key role in the leak of the membership list."
Report lfc1971 July 31, 2023 9:16 PM BST
Nigel Farage has said that the newly installed
boss of Coutts has offered to keep his accounts open ….
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 31, 2023 9:20 PM BST
Great news lfc.

Never ever back down to a banker.
Report lfc1971 July 31, 2023 9:26 PM BST
Yep , very good news for everyone living
in this country .. well done Farage .. might want compensation ?
And deserves it
Report lfc1971 July 31, 2023 9:31 PM BST
Farage will be on GBnews shortly
Report lfc1971 July 31, 2023 9:43 PM BST
Morally bankrupt wokes !

‘ let’s get politics and prejudice
out of banks ‘. . What a lovely man Nigel is
Report Pokermonster July 31, 2023 10:33 PM BST
I wasn’t aware of that, Lux. That is scandalous, sir.
Report Pokermonster July 31, 2023 10:36 PM BST
I recall the leader of the BNP raising the issue of child grooming gangs in Yorkshire before other politicians, and being widely vilified for it.
Report jollyswagman September 19, 2023 8:31 AM BST

Sept 18 (Reuters) - A review by the UK's financial regulator shows no evidence that politicians are being denied bank accounts because of their views, the Financial Times reported on Monday, citing people briefed on the findings.
Report lfc1971 September 19, 2023 9:05 AM BST
That’s not good , just Nigel then ?

Makes it worse
Report SirNorbertClarke September 19, 2023 9:43 AM BST
Let's face facts, if you were a business you wouldn't want the liar Farage as a customer would you.
Report lfc1971 September 19, 2023 9:47 AM BST
Farage would be the perfect customer, polite
and courteous couldn’t wish for better
Report lfc1971 September 19, 2023 9:50 AM BST
Would imagine Jeremy Corbyn would be likewise
Report dambuster September 19, 2023 11:19 AM BST

Sep 19, 2023 -- 3:47AM, lfc1971 wrote:

Farage would be the perfect customer, polite and courteous couldn’t wish for better

Hear Hear

Report SirNorbertClarke September 19, 2023 12:29 PM BST
A few psychopaths have good manners. They hide behind them. Rees-Mogg for example.
Report Dr Crippen September 19, 2023 12:32 PM BST
''if you were a business you wouldn't want the liar Farage as a customer would you.''

They wouldn't have you as a customer Noblet, you haven't got enough money.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 19, 2023 7:28 PM BST
That's very true. I gave away all my property and pension lump sum when I retired. Happy to live on my pension and don't need a fancy bank to boost my ego.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 19, 2023 7:52 PM BST
They won't have farrage as a customer.
Report Shrewd_dude September 19, 2023 8:51 PM BST
That's very true. I gave away all my property and pension lump sum when I retired. Happy to live on my pension and don't need a fancy bank to boost my ego.

Who did you give it to?
Report lfc1971 September 19, 2023 8:53 PM BST
Leftists this is truth , meet truth - hello truth we’ve never met … hmmmm
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 19, 2023 8:56 PM BST
Lol, truth, meet lfc, a stranger to you.
Report Shrewd_dude September 19, 2023 8:57 PM BST
It does smell like there might be someone deliberately depriving themselves of assets and property to live off the teet of the state at the cost of the tax paying working man.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 19, 2023 8:58 PM BST
Who did you give it to?

My kids of course.
Report SirNorbertClarke September 19, 2023 9:00 PM BST
It does smell like there might be someone deliberately depriving themselves of assets and property to live off the teet of the state at the cost of the tax paying working man

The DWP are not stupid.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 20, 2023 11:48 AM BST
"initial findings showed the primary reason for accounts being closed, suspended or denied was either that the account was inactive, or that they had concerns that the customer was involved in financial crime."
Report Whisperingdeath September 20, 2023 11:55 AM BST
It seems the people who think it is ok for a Prime Minister to lie in Parliament are outraged by the BBC making a mistake!
Report Whisperingdeath September 20, 2023 11:55 AM BST
It seems the people who think it is ok for a Prime Minister to lie in Parliament are outraged by the BBC making a mistake!
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