Black Thursday for the Tories - 3 By -elections could see safe Blue seats kapooted

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It's time the electorate woke up and realised that the three-in-one uniparty will offer them nothing but the misery of WEF-inspired socialism.
Peter Hitchens wrote this in 2006 and perhaps we should listen and ditch the corpses.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/kilroy-silk-robert/

Uxbridge tells the Tories everything they need to know to be able to turn it around, but they will ignore it.

Perhaps I should remind Donnie that they are all the same apart from Labour being the same but worse given the chance.
All victims are the same though, no victim is more equal than others (David Cornwell).

It's incredibly worrying that Starmer has sat on the fence (as per usual) over Couttsgate. The problem we have is that he most likely agrees with the bank, but knows it would be suicidal to vocalise it.

Boris should've stayed...

I suspect that the Tories would have ignored it were it not so close to a GE. JRM was able to spur Sunak into doing something. The Tories are the slow train to the same destination as Starmer's Express.

I told my MP that I would not vote for him if he did not vote against vaccine passports in parliament. He voted for, and I have no reason as yet to deviate from my promise.

Boris will die wandering what could have been I suppose, but he was persona non grata anyway, with the kangaroo court et al.

Foin, Sunak and his acolytes despise JRM, and traditional conservative values. You couldn't come across anyone wetter than James Forsyth. He is quite comfortable with millions of people stealing a living off fake money/the taxpayer. And obviously mass immigration.

His green carp was not sufficient to ingratiate himself with the suits, they would not forgive him for getting us out of the Reich. He won't be back.

More foinirony, with his hero and party
taking a real bashing in what was a chance
to establish a foothold, or 3 chances.

Total rejection of the 2 neo fascist parties
despite an axis of evil pact with each other.

Ah yes, the parties of peace progress and goodwill have beaten the fascist imperialist liars, the poisoners of truth. Is that it Donnie? I'm sure that CoT will agree.

It's been a bad week for racist grifters

You aren't stupid. I don't think. So why do you perpetuate the nonsense smearing? I sense some normality in you, rather than the aggressive relics like charlie.

Is it fun, or you want to feel like you're in the right gang?

I can see that some people are inclined to see the country financially ruined through uncontrolled immigration, and by dint of that, its identity is being eroded away. London is no longer recognisable, or recoverable. This is the direction of travel for the entire country. Instead of the people 'in charge' doing something about it, they are expediting it.

But it isn't being ruined by uncontrolled immigration to now. London is unrecognisable due to controlled immigration. High inflation,high rents/mortgages,falling living standards has been the direction of travel by those in charge.Call it for what it is,the tory gov have been totally inept.

Cider Uxbridge tells the Tories everything they need to know to be able to turn it around, but they will ignore it.


What, appeal to the anti-ULEZ fruitcakes?

Can't see that working outside of London.

Tories have increased uk population by over 4 million.

No increase in resources

What else could happen?

It obviously started with opening up to the EU and 400 million potential people.

We still don't exactly know who comes in and who leaves.

However the point is, that's a policy position. If you don't think that's the right thing. And you should train the millions of people already here, not working, to do jobs, rather than importing people to do them does not make you a racist.

I get why people want mass uncontrolled immigration, I just don't believe it's the right policy. People who want that don't like the identity of the country they were either born in, or moved to.

Where do the tories hide their 4 million
new citizens?

There we go again. Anyone who doesn't want an additional tax on the working class to be able to drive, is apparently a fruit cake....

Ah c'mon Cider, nearly a million in the last year but you seem to be pointing the finger at illegals.

I cannot understand the ulez reason,whatever that cost the torys have cost them a lost more, sad to see no sense or reason in Uxbridge by people.

They are strange people Cider. They hate their own country and gleefully look forward to its ruin. As I posted earlier, all victims are equal, them included.

The official figure I believe was around 1.2 million. You can double that with the chicanery, fake students, 'temporary' visas and all the other workarounds that go on. Say 2.4 million.

Another decade of that takes you to 24 million.

Plus of course, many people moving to the UK go on to have huge families.

Poor foinirony, having to lick his wounds, openly
on the forum.

Oh to be a racist grifter.

2010 population of uk 62,770,000


Current population of the United Kingdom is 68,964,387


Even allowing for temp immigrants and students that will
likely be replaced by other temp annual visitors anyway

That's a hell of a chunk to house when austerity has
prevented the creation of infrastructure to
cope with the influx.

It's just an estimate. They have no idea how many people are actually living in the country.

Of course they are estimates, but subject to
same errors and same accuracy.

I was somewhat conservative with over 4 million.

So bar about 3 or 4% they were invited in?

It would appear so.

Based of best guess estimates and uk
government figures and census info.

If somebody is a citizen or a guest makes no odds
They still need to be housed, fed, and
take up other amenities.


All them figures will be estimates too cider, lol.

You can't make it up,the torys pledging to stop the boats, ship them off to Rwanda and with the other hand inviting a million in.

Jaysus,them tory fanboys are gas!

The latest chart shows nearly half of non EU students found some other way of staying after the original student visa had expired.

Only the dup can beat them for stupidity, voted against putting the whole of the UK in Theresa Mays backstop.

Lapsy, I looked at this for literally 10 minutes and can already demonstrate that the official immigration 'stats' are gas.

The official numbers mean nothing, anyone living in the UK can tell you that for free.

They will of course end up getting all of their services, NHS care etc for free (we pay).

Yes Cider,I bet you got some shock when the number of legal immigrants was made public,talk about 2 faced politics,roar and shout from patel and braverman and a big welcome sign at the airport for the rest

Not a shock. This is the new version of politics where the ministers in charge of the brief don't make the decisions. Every PM since and including Blair has been extremely liberal on immigration, whilst of course claiming the opposite in Tory cases.

Anyway, the central point here is not the policy. It is that arguing for a change of it in practice is an entirely rational position. People can argue for the case for effective open borders, and people can argue against it. What used to happen is that the majority won the argument and got their way. Not any more.

name one person on here
who trusts a politician

COT's your Man sturgeon and all sorts are his bag

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Poor foinirony, having to lick his wounds, openly
on the forum.

Oh to be a racist grifter.


On what basis do you call me a racist donnie?

who won lads any summarise ?

If the tory lot are booted out won't it be interesting when Labour have been in power a year of two and STILL nothing will have been done about immigration and street violence.  Who will we blame then??

When did I call you racist?

Or is it rhetorical

the best the progressive lot could do is play a way cyst card
when I know what a homophobic and transphobic he can be

David Williams..


I have resigned as chair of Uxbridge and South Ruislip CLP. I am also resigning my membership of the Labour Party.
Politics needs to have principles or we end up with people like Boris Johnson and Liz Truss running the country,
Jeremy Corbyn gave a huge boost to the Labour Party



Having blown the by election it's probably right
He's gone, but principles should surely include
real reason he's gone, which is surely being
not very good at running campaigns.

What a horrible result for Sir Starmer and Labour. Labour ought to be winning everything given the distaste the public have for the Tories. I think Labour ought to consider seriously about withdrawing the whip from Mr Khan.

Livingston = Free travel on London Transport; Bojo = Boris bike; Mr Khan = ULEZ during Cost Of Living. What a legacy for someone whose dad was a bus driver!

Except of course ulez is forced on mayor
by Conservative government settlement

What a jolly jape blaming him for their policy.

He's a mayor, not an MP, so is not subject to a whip.


Starmer will doubtless have words, closing
the stable door after the horse has bolted

If Sunak had anything about him he would take the powers away from Khan. London is the capital of the country, it is ours, even if we all don't live there. It should not be possible for a mayor to lump additional taxes on the working class. They are already having to put up with the daily just stop freak show.

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the best the progressive lot could do is play a way cyst card
when I know what a homophobic and transphobic he can be

I think he has withdrawn the alleged allegation by saying that it wasn't an allegation directed at me Mo.

Mr Khan only gets elected because of the ethnicity of the majority of Londoners. Mr Khan outside London is a no-body. The guy was an unknown in his previous profession. However, he does know how to play the political game to feather his own nest. A common trait in the Labour Party eg Mr Corbin and Ms Abbot.

Ulez during/on top of Cost Of Living? Even a moron or a chip would not have done that. Mr Khan is a retard!

I've not withdrawn anything.

I'm asking where you think I've accused you of being racist?


You've failed to answer, but gone off for a chat with a racist.

Perhaps it’s time now for the tories
to say ok , if immigration is what leftist / liberals
want and any discussions of benefits / disadvantages or attempts to curtail it
is co opted by the usual cries of racism etc . escalate it greatly between now
and the next election - it’s all theirs .. rub the left / liberals nose in it …

They've been escalating it greatly since Boris got in.

After all if you look at it from a conservative business / economic
perspective immigration  is in many ways a policy welcomed by
big business and those at the top .. it will not be so good for
the working class , or middle class  labour / liberal voters

That’s true saddo … rub those who vote labour or liberal noses in it

Don’t stop it , don’t try to stop it .. increase it
Between now and the next election ..  oh and
from every corner of the world … including the small boats

foinavons dummy chucked out the pram again

Hi I'm Grant Schapps (aka Michael Green/Corinne Stockheath/Sebastian Fox) and when Tory transport minister in 2020 I wrote to Sadiq Khan London mayor asking him to reintroduce the Ulez zone and bring forward proposals to widen its scope.
I'm also a bloody hypocrit.

https://twitter.com/Bez78829056/status/1682431634610462720?s=19

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Beautiful work from local tories to pull off this campaign,
but what on earth were local Labour doing to let them.

Local party leader gone,... Too right he should be gone.

Oh, if you haven't withdrawn anything I think I will have to refer the post for an adjudication.

Please yourself, I have nothing to withdraw.

Maybe, as twice previously requested, without reply, you could point
out where I've called you a racist?

I attached the post to the question, the implication is clear. I see you have also implied that Moisok is a racist too.
Are you calling me a racist? Yes or no?

He is a racist.

As previously stated I have nothing to withdraw

For avoidance of doubt...

That is because I have not called you a racist

Racist grifters are usually not people on forums that do not ask for donations.

Racist grifters are usually work shy people that say all the darndest things on social media or YouTube in order to get poor other people to finance their cocaine addications through donations.

OK.

how doe they keep these fumes from transport in the right zone when the wind changes direction so many times a week?

Sir Keir is a disaster. Labour have to get rid of him ffs

Osmond -a well known waycyst **** phobe and transphobe like yourself has no evidence for your wild accusations.
Are you COT in disguise?

homophobe

is sir keir a tory plant? makes you wonder

tories got whalloped

it doesnt matter.... semantics

heads or tails ....who is tossing the coin ?

When is the next Mayoral Election? Mr Khan could be dumped because of ULEZ or ostracised by The Labour Party.

Whenever we have change, especially change to improve the environment we get a head of steam from the usual sources, The Daily Mail, The Express and The Telegraph. Lately you can add GB News and Talk TV to the equation.

I well remember when free plastic bags in supermarkets was to end. The above predicted the end of the world as we know it. Of course by 09:05 on 5th October 2015 by some miracle the country had survived and was coping pretty well.

Whenever we have change, especially change to improve the environment we get a head of steam from the usual sources, The Daily Mail, The Express and The Telegraph. Lately you can add GB News and Talk TV to the equation.

I well remember when free plastic bags in supermarkets was to end. The above predicted the end of the world as we know it. Of course by 09:05 on 5th October 2015 by some miracle the country had survived and was coping pretty well.

iyo why did Labour lose Uxbridge when they were long odds on, and expected to win it with ease?

As I said the right wing press always builds up a head of steam against any environmental measures. Once the changes are in they will be accepted.

Labour were never expected to win Uxbridge with ease. That was expectation management by the Tories.

They clung on by their fingertips and now parade it as a great victory.

Odds
Priced at 1/12, Labour are the odds-on favourites for Uxbridge and South Ruislip. Those odds imply an 92.3% chance of victory with BetVictor, with the Conservatives out at 7/1 and Liberal Democrats 100/1

You think Tories won a London by election from 20% points behind in national polling, due to 'right wing press'

diddums

I make a lot of money laying short favourites.

The ULEZ is very controversial in west London

#hated

Tories due to get a further leathering when the Mid Bedfordshire by election takes place. Nadine D still not formerly resigned.
She pulled 60% of the vote in '19 and garnered a 24K majority over Labour, and the lib dems third.

Lib dems 4/7 on 'ere to win this by election. Tories won 30K more votes than this lot.

Starmer was out delivering leaflets yesterday.

Tory candidate is a Police and Crime commissioner who was 'encouraged' to stand down while he was on the campaign trail [but declined]

You taking on the Lib dems Norbert?

It depends on the price. I'm always interested in laying sub 1.10s

Although I can't see Nadine actually resigning.

Doesn't she employ two daughters on very nice parliamentary salaries

Nadines daughters on about 90k between them
and likely expenses on top.

Resign, lol, but not seen in parliament for a while.

200k a year gone out that household if she walks away.

I reckon she has the brass neck to stand at the next general election so she gets Loss of office payment, a winding up budget and a winding up payment.

The daughters will of course get redundancy pay.

Plus she can stock up on Apple Macs, Iphones and hampers from F&M till then

She can't be bothered to turn up for parliament, a job she gets paid for but has no problem turning up to the tv studio to comment on political events as part of her show..

It's bunkum to compare Ulez to plastic bags. This is not about Ulez not being an environment friendly policy, but merely its timing of introduction as it coincides with Cost of Living, Mortgage Interest hike, etc.

Mr Khan is trying to make a name for himself. Did he campaign for Labour in Bojo's former constituency?

Nothing to do with the environment, it's a cash grab on the working class. All cars over 3 years old need an annual MOT (to be legal). To pass an MOT they need to pass an emissions test.

People aren't stupid either. What ulex expansion has achieved is to get people involved in politics who wouldn't usually notice what politicians do on a day to day basis. Most people just get on with it, and let the politicians get on with it until they are met with something as a atrocious as the enforcement of the daily ulez tax.

A bit like the old 'rapist can choose to be a woman' that saw off queen Nic. When you get 'normal' people upset, the game is almost up.

It's bunkum to compare Ulez to plastic bags.

Dear oh dear. If you read back you'll see I was comparing the hoo-ha in the right wing press and how in the end everything was fine from day 1.

People who are going to incur the ulez charge from August have had well over a year to get emission compliant vehicles. There is a scrappage scheme. They can switch to public transport. They can use bikes both normal and electric.

There are so many options to avoid the charge. Are we to put up with air pollution until the last of the car lobby has passed from this world?