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Never knew there were so many , what are they all doing ?
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You may say 'well done',however it is a sign you are in deep trouble.
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More "jam tomorrow" stories to follow
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Won't be long before millions more follow when the Automated systems get up and running tick tock tick tock.......
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Many civil servants work hard and do not deserve the abuse they get from clowns like old knee-deep. My only complaint against them is the obscene pension arrangements they all enjoy ( just for doing a job they are paid well for anyway ) courtesy of the Crown, for maintaining the status quo and the family firm in the luxury they feel they deserve. The biggest financial scam ever visited upon the public - the "Westminster" pension.
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"40% of the civil service staff members are claiming benefits".
Mark Serwotka head of PCS union- https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015q2d/question-time-2022-24032022 @16mins 03sec 'layabouts' struggling to feed their families already? fake news |
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Many civil servants work hard
Doing what - feathering their own nests? The civil service has always been an unaccountable, inefficient shambles, staffed by mostly overpaid self-serving loafers. |
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Much the same as Tory MPs then,Dr C. How about axing the number of MPs in the HoC,especially those who claim 220,000 a year in 'expenses'. I thought the 'Expenses Scandal'had been sorted.
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All these extra civil servants taken on by border force
to stop migrants and to check import of goods from eu. Yeah, just sack em and leave our borders open And the half wits are cheering because, err, err, because they have been fed a line to cheer. Lol |
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Passport office can't cope
Sack more staff That's a good thing, right? |
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Likely those aged 55 to 60 are queuing
up for early retirement and pension. So pension almost same as what they earn now for working, and lovely bonus redundancy lumpa on top. No saving.... End up employing somebody else to do the job And you've cost yerself money not saved it Cheer cheer cheer go the halfwits |
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I have to laugh ^
Given the huge queues for people also waiting on medical treatment at least some could be deployed to try and sort that. Not sure the actual people to administer the treatment is there but the bureaucracy side would be 1st rate, there surely are other things,like as said above passports,airport queues etc that could be looked at. Is this being done to appease the likes of the op or a sign of havn't a pot to phish in? |
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In this modern day do we need our non elected House of Lords? This has to be a nice earner for some. Turn up and then claim up to just over £300 a day attendance allowance which I think is tax free as well. I just wonder how many of those claiming the daily attendance allowance actually spend much time in the chamber for the days claimed for?
Supposedly government policy was to try to restrict the number of new lords being appointed. What does Boris do? He increases the number of new appointees to the Lords and some of them seem controversial. Doing away with the Lords could save the monies paid to those attending and the need for security and civil service support staff. What are the chances of it happening? Probably not a lot. |
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I think uk needs to cut waste spending.
But they are cut to bone already after years of tory austerity. We still have not implemented border checks on EU imports,... Government of johnson is carp. All for saving money, but, cutting services we badly need is a bad route to tread. |
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Some decent ideas re cost cutting above.
Irish Govt recently subsidised bus fares,more people are using them now,it saves petrol/car,UK travel imo is expensive particulary compared to Europe. It should be applied i think,a small help to people. |
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Investing in green public transport is a no brainer.
Certainly helps cut emissions which is supposed to be long term aim. |
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Most of this Work being outsourced to Agencies DBS and Terrorist check you are in , No more 6 months Sick pay and Massive pensions ..
Zoomers and Covidphobians in a desperate state |
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NHS needs sorting as well another Mob with unlimited sick pay
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Peston
Public servants, Whitehall, being told by PM that 91,000 are surplus to requirements and a pay rise of 3% is sufficient when inflation is heading for 10%. They’re also being told they are slackers if they work from home. Morale among public servants being tested, to put it mildly |
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Richard murphy
91,000 civil service job cuts creates how many lucrative new outsourcing contract opportunities for replacement services to be supplied by the government's chums? |
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I think what Doris is really saying is: "Look we've been so incompetent over the last decade or so that we employed 91,000 people we didn't need."
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I am not clear how giving redundancy money to 91,000 workers, then having them sign on the dole is the correct strategy here.
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Order all civil servants to return to the office Monday week
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Perhaps the quality of staff at the higher levels and how they are recruited should be looked at. Cummings was suggesting that and broadening the scope of the ways they were recruited. He thought that many at the top were not that good at performing their duties.
I wonder if many of those at the top would have more in common with Boris Johnson in their upbringing and education than Cummings. Is it possible they could have worked on Boris to get rid of Cummings to maintain the status quo? |
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I have seen this scenario umpteen times before. Company (government in this case) pay off a huge amount of skilled, experienced workers. Those workers get a redundancy package over and above what is legally required to stop a revolt. Redundancy receivers then sign on dole but are under no pressure initially to look for a job. Company (ie government) then realise that many they have chopped are irreplaceable. They then hire them back via a contractor, costing them probably in the region of two to three times their original salary. After six months have passed the former employee/contractor is then offered a full time permanent position in order to save money paying the contractor.
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You have to be very careful if you have any dealings with the civil service
that involves money They are usually very careful not to tell lies , but they might not tell the whole truth |
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In the electronics industry, which I was involved in, being made redundant and collecting the best package possible before starting elsewhere as a contractor became an artform for many. I met some folks who had their payoff net bulging half a dozen times in what was a very fast moving environment.
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What is the obsession with office working
when workers do a great job from home? Return to office and get sacked Lol |
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There was a building in Stirling, on the edge of the grounds of the university, which was occupied by multiple electronics companies over many years. When the first company employees were made redundant, they put all their CV's in a box and left it in the middle of the shop floor. New company comes in, hey, look at all these CV's ! Former workers all re employed by new owner until they are made redundant, box gets left on shop floor...
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Return to the office to be sacked lol
Actually I know someone whose manager ( he was a manager also ) turned up one day at his house and he thought he was about to be told he was losing his job . And he wouldn’t let him into the house He said no , no I’m not speaking to you here . Tell me in work The manager had to explain he wasn’t getting sacked ![]() |
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Do we have too many staff at the top in the civil service? Some years ago I remember reading a newspaper article about our armed forces. The topic was about the number of officers in our armed forces. Compared to several other NATO nations our ratio of officers to men was one of the highest.
Do we have too many officers in our armed forces? Do we have too many managers and top level civil servants? When staff numbers are being reduced does it apply disproportionately and hit the lower levels more? |
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Maybe p and o ferries will take on some
of the sacked civil servants |
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Could it be possible that technology instead of making things more efficient
and meaning there are less people needed , simply has meant that there are more people needed to maintain the extra work created by the complexity of the technology and the work that is then being done is not the original work or the intended work that is necessary But the work that has been created by the technology , which didn’t actually need to be done in the past , or now I think that is what has happened |
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ie the technology becomes the work
But it is work that doesn’t need to be done |
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Do you recall when computers first arrived on the scene
And for very many years the question was , well that’s fine But what actually do they do , why do we need them Now of course there are millions of people with computers and every workplace office has them . It’s a multi million pound industry and has created thousands , millions of jobs But the question remains - what do computers really do That wasn’t done before ? |
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Does the 'L' stand for Luddite?
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The Luddites were certainly ahead of their time visionary’s
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Tobias elwood
I’m beginning to believe there’s a ‘Dead Cat Committee’ in No.10 spewing out a regular drumbeat of sensationalist headlines. It’s not about numbers, but outputs & productivity - the engine driving wider inspirational policy objectives that thematically sit together as a vision. |